RE: lug-bg: zalichka

2003-05-29 Thread Krasimir Dimitrov

rdesktop i tsclient
rabotiat bezproblemno kym terminal server na win2000/XP/win2003
pone na tova sym probval az ...

Krasimir

On Wed, 28 May 2003, Georgi Sinapov wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Krasimir Dimitrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:34 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  If you want Windows clients connecting to a Windows server, you'll have
   try rdesktop
  http://freshmeat.net/projects/rdesktop
 
 
  with tsclient
  http://freshmeat.net/projects/tsclient

- M$ Windows, rdesktop/tsclient 
 port-   win.


 
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lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Boyan Krosnov
Zdraveyte,

Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
Primerno
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri kojto choveka ot
to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal nqkakyv nepoznat
subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
www.pozvanete.com.

Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 9:25 bylgarsko
vreme (+0300).

Molq pomognete.

BR,
Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
http://boyan.ludost.net/
just another techie speaking for himself

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Re: lug-bg: Seminar Distro's

2003-05-29 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Spas Pavlov wrote:
,

   fox4o.   ,
   .

   :
Red Hat 9.0 - 3CD's
Mandrake 9.1 - 3CD's
Slackware 9.0
Debian-Woody -30r1
SuSe
( 1 .)  
   ,.
   ,e-mail.

 
   Slack-current

--
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http://georgi.unixsol.org/

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RE: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Boyan Krosnov
mnogo shte sym ti blagodaren ako mi pratish e-mail headers.
naj-mnogo me interesuvat from i to poletata.

BR,
Boyan

 -Original Message-
 From: Romeo Ninov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam
 
 
 Boyan Krosnov wrote:
  Zdraveyte,
  
  Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
  mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
  tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
  Primerno
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri 
 kojto choveka ot
  to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal 
 nqkakyv nepoznat
  subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
  www.pozvanete.com.
  
  Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 
 9:25 bylgarsko
  vreme (+0300).
  
  Molq pomognete.
 I az imam podoben problem. ot sashtoto IP. i pishe na 
 balgarski (razni 
 prostotii) :-((
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev



ne im e za pryv pyt mezhdu drugoto. logove ne pazia :(
Az imam na um edno lechenie za podobni bolesti, koeto makar i hich da ne e 
moe izobretenie, e mnogo efikasno :)
Naricha se - filtering.
Mislia che techs v BG sa dostatychno organizirani, za da prasne vseki po edin
filtyr na serverite si sreshtu podobni spameri. Kato pochnat masovo da 
pishtqt, che otnikyde ne se wizhdat, shte im doide uma na momenta, kato na 
gimnazistka men*isa. 

Horata veche masovo sa propishtiali ot spama i tyrsiat dosta efektivni metodi 
za borba s nego. To ostavi drugoto, ami gi i namirat.

Prochetete tova:





Vigilantes give spammers a dose of their own medicine



By MYLENE MANGALINDAN
The Associated Press
5/19/03 9:22 AM


The Wall Street Journal


When all 24 office phones at Scott Richter's e-mail marketing company
started ringing at once, with nobody at the other end of the line,
employees knew they were under attack again.


Daniel Dye, the systems administrator, could do little. After 15 minutes
into the lunchtime assault last month, Mr. Dye recalls yelling, Go
ahead and pull your phones out of the walls for now. It'll be easier to
think about what to do. Examining the phone system's central computer,
Mr. Dye found that someone had hacked into it and programmed a feature
that caused all the phones to ring at the same time.


Mr. Richter's company had been flamed -- attacked by a shadowy group
of vigilantes who have taken to harassing spammers using just about any
means they can dream up. Spam, or unsolicited commercial e-mail, has set
off a war between marketers and people who hate spam. Mr. Richter, who
is a mass commercial e-mailer, has become a frequent target of attackers
known as antispammers.


They form a loose affiliation that uses the Internet to coordinate
attacks from around the world. E-mail marketers often feel powerless
against them. It's an underground cult running it, says Mr. Richter,
whose Westminster, Colo., e-mail marketing business, Optinrealbig.com,
pitches mortgages,
adult- related products and Viagra. You don't know who they are.


Here's one of them: Mark Jones, a 26-year-old software engineer in
Enterprise, Ala., who calls himself a soldier in the war against spam.
From his home at night, he tracks down spammers by tracing the complex
routing code hidden in e-mail messages. He reports them to what
antispammers call realtime blacklists, Web sites that track known spam
sources and allow computer administrators to block certain Internet
addresses.


Then, he fights back. Anytime we find a source of spam, he says, we
spam them back.


After his three children were asleep late one Saturday night last
November, Mr. Jones sat down at his PC for a bit of spammer-flaming.
First, he says, he visited a Web site, slashdot.org, that's a favorite
among techies; he pulled down a list of about 10 alleged spammers. He
programmed his personal computer to send a letter to each supposed
spammer in the same way many spammers do: through so-called open relays
and mail servers that forward e-mail in ways that make it hard to track
down the sender. As his finishing stroke, he had his PC send the message
to each spammer 10,000 times.


We use the same methods the spammers use, says Mr. Jones, chuckling.
It's a bombardment.


...

'



On Wednesday 28 May 2003 16:22, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
 Zdraveyte,

 Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
 mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
 tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
 Primerno
 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri kojto choveka ot
 to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal nqkakyv nepoznat
 subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
 www.pozvanete.com.

 Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 9:25 bylgarsko
 vreme (+0300).

 Molq pomognete.


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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da napravim
nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte izolirame
spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.

  Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 16:22, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
 Zdraveyte,

 Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
 mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
 tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
 Primerno
 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri kojto choveka ot
 to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal nqkakyv nepoznat
 subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
 www.pozvanete.com.

 Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 9:25 bylgarsko
 vreme (+0300).

 Molq pomognete.

 BR,
 Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
 http://boyan.ludost.net/
 just another techie speaking for himself
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lug-bg: Problem s USB2.0 PCI-Card - ALi M5237

2003-05-29 Thread Pavel Milev
Znachi - imam si linux box sys 2.4.21-rc5 kernel.
Na nego sym zakachil  USB2.0 PCI-Card - ALi M5237 , i syotvetno
edin HDD v external USB_HDD_enclosure.

Zarejdam slednite moduli:
-usbcore - generic poddrujka za USB
-ehci-hcd - driver za USB 2.0 ctonrolle-rcheto
-usb-storage - mass storage driver
-sd_mod - poddryjka na SCSI-HDD (shtoto usb-storage emulira SCSI)
. imam zaredeni syshto sg; ide-scsi; scsi_mod
Tak ... kato montiram partition ot diska koito e v
external hdd_case-a, se poluchava slednia efekt - v syslogovete i console
se poiaviavat messages ot sorta na:

May 28 17:36:42 bongo kernel: SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return 
code = 7
May 28 17:36:42 bongo kernel:  I/O error: dev 08:03, sector 2

i estestveno access-a do diska e hyper baven i freeze-va na momenti, a
sector-a koito se spomenavashe kato greshen e vinagi razlichen za razlichnite error 
messages

... shte kajete che problema na e v USB-to ... moje i da ste pravi , OBACHE
s drug USB2.0 kontoler, a imenno - VIA VT6202 gornata procedura raboti
bez da se poiaviavat nikakvi greshki, diska si se accessva i t.n. i t.n. !!!

probvah oshte neshto - zaedno s vyprosnia ALi M5237,na syshtata PCI karta vyrvi i 
t.nar.
companion controller. zaredih syshtite moduli , s tazi razlika che vmesto
 ehci-hcd, izpolzvah usb-ohci ( za companion controller-a), pak montirah syshtia
partition - i tozi pyt bez nikakvi errori, vsichko si vyrvi gladko - read/write ... e 
viarno
sync-vame bavno shtoto vse pak stava duma za USB1, ama vyrvi bez greshki.

za final zakachih  vyprosnia ALi M5237, na Windows2000 mashina, tozi pyt s drug HDD 
(shtoto
testovia imashe samo ext2/3 partitions) - i tam raboti bezproblemno ...


Ta taka - izniknaha mnogo vyprosi :

1. dali pyk sluchaino, ehci-hcd drivera neshto ne se razbira sys  ALi M5237 ?
2. dali pyk ne e naistina niakakyv problem s HDD (ne bi triabvalo da e - na normalno 
IDE
diska se chete OK)
3. dali USB_HDD_enclosure ne mi vyrti nomera ( i tova mai ne e - s drug kontroller sme 
OK)
4. dali neshto SCSI emulaciata en se duni
5. - i az ne znam kvo !! :)

Ta taka - kajete niakoi boril li se e s podobno neshto, i izobshto vsiakakvu syveti za 
opraviane na
tazi boza sa dobre doshli !



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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Anton Tinchev
Da se saberem, da se napiem i da hodim da gi biem vikam az.

Boyan Krosnov wrote:

 Zdraveyte,
 
 Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
 mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
 tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
 Primerno
 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri kojto choveka ot
 to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal nqkakyv nepoznat
 subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
 www.pozvanete.com.
 
 Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 9:25 bylgarsko
 vreme (+0300).
 
 Molq pomognete.
 
 BR,
 Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
 http://boyan.ludost.net/
 just another techie speaking for himself
 
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RE: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Boyan Krosnov
Ima edin syshtestven problem... koj shte vqrva na tozi blacklist, kak
shte poddyrjame vqrnostta na informaciqta vytre i kak shte se pazim ot
greshna informaciq i izpolzvaneto mu za lichni celi.

Bratqta rusnaci veche sa izmislili podobna sistema. www.drbl.org
Sega trqbva da se nameri edin dobyr chovek s dostatychno svobodno vreme
da izchete http://www.agk.nnov.ru/drbl/ i da ni informira (nas
po-zaetite s komersialni dela) na prost bylgarski ezik (kato za sistemni
administratori, programisti i t.n.) za kakvo ide rech i kak mojem da si
organizirame podobno neshto tuk.

Inache az runvam sobstven dnsbl za lichna i firmena upotreba.

BR,
Boyan

 -Original Message-
 From: Vesselin Kolev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam
 
 
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 Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da napravim
 nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte izolirame
 spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.
 
   Pozdravi
  Vesselin Kolev
 
 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 16:22, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
  Zdraveyte,
 
  Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
  mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
  tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
  Primerno
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri 
 kojto choveka ot
  to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal 
 nqkakyv nepoznat
  subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
  www.pozvanete.com.
 
  Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 
 9:25 bylgarsko
  vreme (+0300).
 
  Molq pomognete.
 
  BR,
  Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
  http://boyan.ludost.net/
  just another techie speaking for himself
  
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RE: lug-bg: zalichka

2003-05-29 Thread Georgi Sinapov
 -Original Message-
 From: Krasimir Dimitrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 rdesktop i tsclient
 rabotiat bezproblemno kym terminal server na win2000/XP/win2003
 pone na tova sym probval az ...


   If you want Windows clients connecting to a Windows server, you'll
^^^

 ,$. 
 /  Windows client?


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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread
!
   , .   
-
   blacklist.  ' access.db :)  
 ( ;-),  
 ,( 
)

Stockton

 Wednesday 28 May 2003 17:36, Vesselin Kolev :
 Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da napravim
 nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte izolirame
 spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.

   Pozdravi
  Vesselin Kolev


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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Alek Andreev
Tozi ruski sait ne mojah da go procheta, zashtoto e na ruski :), no 
namerih podoben proekt sus sait na angliiski i eto za kakvo stava duma.

Proektut e dsbl.org. Podurjat spisuk s IP-ta na open-relay SMTP serveri 
i HTTP proxy-ta, koito se izpolzvat mnogo ot spamerite, za da prikriat 
sledite si. Zapitvaneto stava prez DNS, kato za da vidite dali ip-to 
1.2.3.4 e spamersko, triabva da polzvate
   $ host 4.3.2.1.lists.dsbl.org
Ako vi vurne 127.0.0.2, znachi sa spameri. Ako vurne Host not found, 
znachi ne sa.

Dobavianeto v bazata danni stava po tri nachina. Purvia e s honeypot 
email adres. Vseki email poluchen na tozi email se klasificira kato spam 
i IP-to na SMTP servera se dobavia v bazata danni. DSBL ne proveriavat 
dali tova naistina e open-relay server. Tozi nachin lovi nai-mnogo 
spambotovete, koito pretursvat web stranicite za emaili, koito da 
spamvat. Vtoria e chrez programa, koito mojete da si drupnete ot saita 
na dsbl. Tia skanira sluchaini IP-ta za open-relay serveri i ako nameri 
niakoi, prashta prez nego mail do honeypot adresa ot purvia nachin. 
Tretia nachin e s ruchno dobaviane, kato IP-tata dobaveni ruchno se 
durjat v otdelen, untrusted spisuk.

DSBL exportvat bazata si danni za BIND serveri i za rbldns. Vsichki 
znaete kakto e BIND, a rbldns izglejda da e server, specialno napraven 
za celta na DNS spam blacklistovete. Priema plain-text spisuk s IP-ta, 
kompilira gi v udoben (B-tree?) format i otgovaria dali dadeno IP go ima 
v spisuk sus sushtia sintaksis kato na lists.dsbl.org (vij gore). 
Primeren BIND zone file ima na 
http://dsbl.org/zones/bind-multihop.dsbl.org , a sushtite IP-ta v rbldns 
format gi ima na http://dsbl.org/zones/rbldns-multihop.dsbl.org .

Eto i niakoi idei, koito mi hrumnaha za bulgarskia ni variant na DNS 
blacklist.

Purvo, ne znam do kolko se polzvat v Bulgaria open-relay serveri, ta si 
mislia honeypot servera da vkluchva vsichki IP-ta v headerite na 
emailite v bazata danni. A ako niakoi iska da reportna server chrez 
programa kato tazi na dsbl, moje da dobavi slednia header v maila:
   X-SpamExcludeIP: 1.2.3.4
Tam moje da si napishe sobstvenoto IP, koeto da ne bude dobaveno v 
bazata, vupreki che e v headera na maila. Za da ne se okaje tova zadna 
vratichka v sistemata, potrebitelskite mail serveri mogat da filtrirat 
vsichki pisma, sudurjashti vuprosnia header. Taka spamerut niama da moje 
da sloji sobstvenoto si IP v headera i da postigne jelania efekt.

Vtoro, vmesto da podurjame otdelni spisuci za sigurni i nesigurni 
zapisi, mojem da slagame ratingi na vseki zapis. IP-tata, dobaveni chrez 
honeypot emaila avtomatichno shte imat rating ot 255. Ratingut na tezi, 
dobaveni ruchno shte se uvelichava s edno na vsiako povtorno dobaviane 
ot drug potrebitel. Taka vseki postmaster moje da si sloji prag na 
ratinga i da opravliava kolichestvoto spam, koeto da minava. 
Informaciata za ratingite moje da bude v TXT zapisut na DNS-a ili v 
IP-to (primerno 127.0.0.65 za IP s rating 65). Ochevidno, kolkoto vi e 
po-goliam ratinga, tolkova po-gaden spammer ste :).

Treto, hubavo shte bude da si imame i edin whitelist za IP-ta na 
kliuchovi mail serveri (dir.bg, mail.bg, etc.). Viarno che i ot tiah 
moje da idva spam, no po-dobre da sa dostupni vse pak.

Chetvurto, kak moje da se poznavat lesno bulgarskite IP-ta ili ideata e 
da se vkluchvat vsiakakvi spamvashti IP-ta?

Nadiavam se tova da vi e polezno. :)

Regards,
Alek Andreev
Zvuk.Net
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Konstantin Kostadinov
:) 

'  access.db -;)))
  ;)))

server:~# cat /etc/postfix/access | wc
9291858   20243

  -   ;))

 !
, .   
 -
blacklist.  ' access.db :)  
  ( ;-),  
  ,( 
 )
 
 Stockton
 
  Wednesday 28 May 2003 17:36, Vesselin Kolev :
  Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da napravim
  nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte izolirame
  spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.
 
Pozdravi
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lug-bg:

2003-05-29 Thread Andrei Boyanov
  ,  
 (,! :))

   -   .

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RE: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Stoyan Lekov
Mislq che imam dostap do bolshinstvoto smtp relays na visoki portove,
koito osnovno se polzvat, iskam samo da pogledna dali vse oshte imam
access-a si i ako tova mozhe da pomogne shte go pratia na Boyan


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:) 

'  access.db -;)))
  ;)))

server:~# cat /etc/postfix/access | wc
9291858   20243

  -   ;))

 !
, . 
 
 -  
 
blacklist.  ' access.db   
 :)  
  ( ;-)   
,  
  ,  
 ( 
 )
 
 Stockton
 
  Wednesday 28 May 2003 17:36, Vesselin Kolev :
  Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da
napravim
  nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte
izolirame
  spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.
 
Pozdravi
   Vesselin Kolev
 



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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Mi dobre, ako zhelaete shte vi pokazha kak pri men raboti podobna
DNS zona i shte obiasnia kakvi sa hvatkite i pravilata pri izgrazhdaneto
na podoben tip zona... Pri men tia raboti ot 15 meseca, razbira se samo
za nuzhdite na poshtenskite mi serveri. No naprimer DNSBL mozhe da
se prilozhi i za IRC serveri, osobeno ako se polzvat DNSBL za open
socks ili open proxy.

Ako mi ostane vreme utre (ako iskash mi napomni i po e-maila),
makar da sym v dvizhenie shte opisha shemata da doverie za podobna
systema i shema. Mozhe da e malko dosadno, no ako smetnete tova za
dosada... niama da go napisha prosto:)))

   Pozdravi
 Vesselin Kolev

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 18:47,   wrote:
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, .  
 -  
 blacklist.  ' access.db  
   :)  ( ;-)   
 ,   , 
   ( )

 Stockton

  Wednesday 28 May 2003 17:36, Vesselin Kolev :
  Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da napravim
  nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte izolirame
  spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.
 
Pozdravi
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Re: lug-bg:

2003-05-29 Thread Plamen Tonev
On Wed, 28 May 2003 20:19:53 +0300
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   ,  
  (,! :))
 
-   .
 
Good...sega ostava i edno PC s openoffice da ima za projectora?! ;-)

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RE: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Boyan Krosnov
mislq che ima izvestna razlika mejdu dsbl i drbl :)
AFAIK drbl (rusnacite demek) polzvat nqkakva distributirana prez dns
sistema za glasuvane i rating na e-mail iztochnicite.

BR,
Boyan

 -Original Message-
 From: Alek Andreev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam
 
 
 Tozi ruski sait ne mojah da go procheta, zashtoto e na ruski :), no 
 namerih podoben proekt sus sait na angliiski i eto za kakvo 
 stava duma.
 
 Proektut e dsbl.org. Podurjat spisuk s IP-ta na open-relay 
 SMTP serveri 
 i HTTP proxy-ta, koito se izpolzvat mnogo ot spamerite, za da 
 prikriat 
 sledite si. Zapitvaneto stava prez DNS, kato za da vidite dali ip-to 
 1.2.3.4 e spamersko, triabva da polzvate
 $ host 4.3.2.1.lists.dsbl.org
 Ako vi vurne 127.0.0.2, znachi sa spameri. Ako vurne Host not found, 
 znachi ne sa.
 
 Dobavianeto v bazata danni stava po tri nachina. Purvia e s honeypot 
 email adres. Vseki email poluchen na tozi email se 
 klasificira kato spam 
 i IP-to na SMTP servera se dobavia v bazata danni. DSBL ne 
 proveriavat 
 dali tova naistina e open-relay server. Tozi nachin lovi nai-mnogo 
 spambotovete, koito pretursvat web stranicite za emaili, koito da 
 spamvat. Vtoria e chrez programa, koito mojete da si drupnete 
 ot saita 
 na dsbl. Tia skanira sluchaini IP-ta za open-relay serveri i 
 ako nameri 
 niakoi, prashta prez nego mail do honeypot adresa ot purvia nachin. 
 Tretia nachin e s ruchno dobaviane, kato IP-tata dobaveni ruchno se 
 durjat v otdelen, untrusted spisuk.
 
 DSBL exportvat bazata si danni za BIND serveri i za rbldns. Vsichki 
 znaete kakto e BIND, a rbldns izglejda da e server, specialno 
 napraven 
 za celta na DNS spam blacklistovete. Priema plain-text spisuk 
 s IP-ta, 
 kompilira gi v udoben (B-tree?) format i otgovaria dali 
 dadeno IP go ima 
 v spisuk sus sushtia sintaksis kato na lists.dsbl.org (vij gore). 
 Primeren BIND zone file ima na 
 http://dsbl.org/zones/bind-multihop.dsbl.org , a sushtite 
 IP-ta v rbldns 
 format gi ima na http://dsbl.org/zones/rbldns-multihop.dsbl.org .
 
 Eto i niakoi idei, koito mi hrumnaha za bulgarskia ni variant na DNS 
 blacklist.
 
 Purvo, ne znam do kolko se polzvat v Bulgaria open-relay 
 serveri, ta si 
 mislia honeypot servera da vkluchva vsichki IP-ta v headerite na 
 emailite v bazata danni. A ako niakoi iska da reportna server chrez 
 programa kato tazi na dsbl, moje da dobavi slednia header v maila:
 X-SpamExcludeIP: 1.2.3.4
 Tam moje da si napishe sobstvenoto IP, koeto da ne bude dobaveno v 
 bazata, vupreki che e v headera na maila. Za da ne se okaje 
 tova zadna 
 vratichka v sistemata, potrebitelskite mail serveri mogat da 
 filtrirat 
 vsichki pisma, sudurjashti vuprosnia header. Taka spamerut 
 niama da moje 
 da sloji sobstvenoto si IP v headera i da postigne jelania efekt.
 
 Vtoro, vmesto da podurjame otdelni spisuci za sigurni i nesigurni 
 zapisi, mojem da slagame ratingi na vseki zapis. IP-tata, 
 dobaveni chrez 
 honeypot emaila avtomatichno shte imat rating ot 255. 
 Ratingut na tezi, 
 dobaveni ruchno shte se uvelichava s edno na vsiako povtorno 
 dobaviane 
 ot drug potrebitel. Taka vseki postmaster moje da si sloji prag na 
 ratinga i da opravliava kolichestvoto spam, koeto da minava. 
 Informaciata za ratingite moje da bude v TXT zapisut na DNS-a ili v 
 IP-to (primerno 127.0.0.65 za IP s rating 65). Ochevidno, 
 kolkoto vi e 
 po-goliam ratinga, tolkova po-gaden spammer ste :).
 
 Treto, hubavo shte bude da si imame i edin whitelist za IP-ta na 
 kliuchovi mail serveri (dir.bg, mail.bg, etc.). Viarno che i ot tiah 
 moje da idva spam, no po-dobre da sa dostupni vse pak.
 
 Chetvurto, kak moje da se poznavat lesno bulgarskite IP-ta 
 ili ideata e 
 da se vkluchvat vsiakakvi spamvashti IP-ta?
 
 Nadiavam se tova da vi e polezno. :)
 
 Regards,
 Alek Andreev
 Zvuk.Net
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Re: lug-bg: Web development tool za Linux?

2003-05-29 Thread gggg ggg
Nedit e dosta jaka

adresa mai e nedit.org ama ne sam mnogo siguren
pusni go na google.

georgi

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 Abe chovek cheti malko postove ..minalta sedmica
 pitaha...
 http://quanta.sourceforge.net/
 Tova e tool-a deto nai stava za eb development -
 prilich na Macromedi Homesite.
 Pozdravi,
 BIVOL
 Â îòãîâîð íà Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  
Zdraveite,
  
   nqkoi da preporycha softuer za Linux ot roda na
 windowskite ekvivalenti - 
  MacroMedia DreamWeaver ili CofeeCup ?
  
   Triabva mi za pravene na web formichki za CGI.
 Znam che na freshmeat ima,
   no niamam vreme da si svalia, instaliram i
 iztestvam vsichkite. 
  
   Znam, che s wine moga da si podkaram MacroMedia
 DreamWeaver (cigani sme, ama
  
  niama da pravim ciganski raboti).
  
  
 


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Re: lug-bg: zalichka

2003-05-29 Thread perl
   svetla [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 oshte ne sa minali izcialo na linux..znam che vse oshte si tursiat hora da 
 im go napraviat! 
 


NE sym chel drugite komentari, a naprawo otgowariam na tozi, w momenta sym, w
matricata i imat 4 PC-ta na linux. Drugoto e na Win
Mnogo dobre e napraweno. Dage e super. W menuto dolu ima za igri:
WarcraftIII
DiabloII
QuakeIII
i drugi

Mozilla
Xchat
OO
mplayer
xmms


sorry, no ne razbiram nishtoi ot igri, ne sym, gamer...za towa nema da probwam.
Mnogo dobra obwiwka ima. Ne moga da pusna oknzola ili drugo, koeto da poiskam.
Samo towa koeto e w menuto...Dori Ctrl+Alt+Fx e izkliucheno. Ne e nito KDE nito
GNOME. Ot tia olekotenite e... 
Kato go restartirah (kat si igrah s menuto...) samo si wleze kato user. Bez KDM
GDM XDM...
Bez parola.
Ami towa e. Mnogo iako. Wsichko na BG.

  
 
 Iassen Pramatarov writes: 
 
  On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:42:16 +0300 Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: 
  
   Kato se zagovori za zalichki, chuh kato sluh che klubovete
   Matricata bili 
  minali izcialo na Linux - i internet, i igri. I bili izbrali Debian
  (???). Viarno li e tova? Nqkoi wizhdal li go e? Kak raboti? Za
  interneta ne se i symniavam, no za igrite?
  Prosto lubopitstvo. 
  
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Re: lug-bg: zalichka

2003-05-29 Thread perl
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

svetla [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  oshte ne sa minali izcialo na linux..znam che vse oshte si tursiat hora da
 
  im go napraviat! 
  
 

Oshte info...
Icewm izpolzwat.

Spored men. Samo predpolagam gadaia... che towa go e naprawil Dimitar Kavlakov.
Ili s drugi dumi tozi koito predstawi igri pod linux na 10.05. deto biaha
organizirali linux-bg  

Kakto kazah samo predpolagam. Ako e niakoi drug neka kage...
P.S.
Sega zabeliazah che mozillata e sys skin na IE ama ne e sin :-)






 
 NE sym chel drugite komentari, a naprawo otgowariam na tozi, w momenta sym,
 w
 matricata i imat 4 PC-ta na linux. Drugoto e na Win
 Mnogo dobre e napraweno. Dage e super. W menuto dolu ima za igri:
 WarcraftIII
 DiabloII
 QuakeIII
 i drugi
 
 Mozilla
 Xchat
 OO
 mplayer
 xmms
 
 
 sorry, no ne razbiram nishtoi ot igri, ne sym, gamer...za towa nema da
 probwam.
 Mnogo dobra obwiwka ima. Ne moga da pusna oknzola ili drugo, koeto da
 poiskam.
 Samo towa koeto e w menuto...Dori Ctrl+Alt+Fx e izkliucheno. Ne e nito KDE
 nito
 GNOME. Ot tia olekotenite e... 
 Kato go restartirah (kat si igrah s menuto...) samo si wleze kato user. Bez
 KDM
 GDM XDM...
 Bez parola.
 Ami towa e. Mnogo iako. Wsichko na BG.
 
   
  
  Iassen Pramatarov writes: 
  
   On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:42:16 +0300 Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote: 
   
Kato se zagovori za zalichki, chuh kato sluh che klubovete
Matricata bili 
   minali izcialo na Linux - i internet, i igri. I bili izbrali Debian
   (???). Viarno li e tova? Nqkoi wizhdal li go e? Kak raboti? Za
   interneta ne se i symniavam, no za igrite?
   Prosto lubopitstvo. 
   
' ???    ?? ?   , ?? 
  ??gt; ?  .  ?  ?  ?  - ?  ?
 
  ?  ? , ?? ??  ???
  ?gt; . !   ?? ? ? ??? - ?
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Re: lug-bg: zalichka

2003-05-29 Thread Iassen Pramatarov
On Thu, 29 May 2003 00:37:36 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Spored men. Samo predpolagam gadaia... che towa go e naprawil Dimitar
 Kavlakov. Ili s drugi dumi tozi koito predstawi igri pod linux na
 10.05. deto biaha organizirali linux-bg  

 , , perl ;))  ,
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Re: lug-bg: Seminar Distro's

2003-05-29 Thread Iassen Pramatarov
On Wed, 28 May 2003 Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Spas Pavlov wrote:
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  Red Hat 9.0 - 3CD's
  Mandrake 9.1 - 3CD's
  Slackware 9.0
  Debian-Woody -30r1
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Romeo Ninov
Boyan Krosnov wrote:
mnogo shte sym ti blagodaren ako mi pratish e-mail headers.
naj-mnogo me interesuvat from i to poletata.
BR,
Boyan

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Boyan Krosnov wrote:

Zdraveyte,

Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
Primerno
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Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri 
kojto choveka ot

to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal 
nqkakyv nepoznat

subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
www.pozvanete.com.
Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 
9:25 bylgarsko

vreme (+0300).

Molq pomognete.
I az imam podoben problem. ot sashtoto IP. i pishe na 
balgarski (razni 
prostotii) :-((
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lug-bg: RedHat 7.2 ili 7.3 anyone ?

2003-05-29 Thread Peter Kirkov
  
7.2  7.3 ?
   
 :
2.4.9-7, 2.4.9-33, 2.4.18-5 ,2.4.18-10

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lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread Niki Savov
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Alek Andreev
Da, naistina e razlichno.

Znachi v DRBL polojenieto e slednoto:

Niama centralen vuzel, vseki postmaster moje da si napravi svoi sobstven 
vuzel. Vseki vuzel se sustoi ot 2 DNS zoni. Ednata e VOTE zonata, 
drugata e WORK zonata. Vuv VOTE zonata se slagat IP-ta, koito 
postmastera klasificira kato spam, po shemata 4.3.2.1.vote.example.com. 
Vsichki zapisi vuv VOTE zonata triabva da sa ruchno napraveni ot 
suotvetnia postmaster (predpolagam che i honeypot adres se dopuska). 
Nishto ne triabva da se importira. WORK zonata se polzva ot MTA za 
otlichavane na spam-a. Tia vkluchva IP-ta ot niakolko VOTE zoni 
(sobstvenata, i na drugi saitove na koito imate doverie). Na vsiaka 
vkluchena VOTE zona se zadava rating, a za WORK zonata kato cialo se 
zadava minalen sbor ot ratingi, koito da se schita za spam. Ako edno IP 
go ima v dve VOTE zoni, ratinga na IP-to e sbora na ratingite na dvete 
VOTE zoni.

Ima i napisan software za DRBL vuzel -  
http://www.agk.nnov.ru/drbl/prog/drbl-2.1.tar.gz . Napisan e izcialo na 
Perl. Durpa informacia ot VOTE zonite prez IXFR. Do kolkoto razbrah ot 
koda, ne e suvsem v realno vreme, a ima edin script, koito triabva da se 
puska ot vreme na vreme za da suzdava nova baza danni za WORK zonata. Ne 
znam sum siguren, no mislia che izhoda na programata sa BIND zone failove.

V obshti linii da si napravim edna DRBL sistema shte e dosta lesno. 
Vseki samo triabva da si pusne software-a i edin bind, i eventualno 
honeypot adres. Niakoi triabva da podurja spisuk s DRBL vuzlite.

Boyan Krosnov wrote:

mislq che ima izvestna razlika mejdu dsbl i drbl :)
AFAIK drbl (rusnacite demek) polzvat nqkakva distributirana prez dns
sistema za glasuvane i rating na e-mail iztochnicite.
BR,
Boyan
 

Regards,
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Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread peyo
Izviniavay za spama, ama kade kaza, che e kluba? Mnogo se zainteresovah::)))

Peyo
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Re: lug-bg: REQ: need to recruit Linux people

2003-05-29 Thread peyo
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On Wednesday 28 May 2003 13:13, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
 nishto de , razbrahme che si PHP developer inache se chidia koi kuv e
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  ?, 2003-05-28  12:25, Yavor Shahpasov :
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Vladi Belperchinov-Shabanski

zdraveite,

blacklists ne sa reshenie, okazva se (mai) che polovinata
internet e blacklist-nat i lichno az sum namiral ne-spam pisma
v koshcheto zaradi takiva spisyci...

otskoro polzvam bogofilter (http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/)
koito e pisan ot  Eric S. Raymond (avtora na fetchmail za koito ne
se seshta:))

bogofilter e baziran na metod na Bayes (Bayesian probability). ideqta
da se izpolzva kato spam filtyr e opisana tuk: 
http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html

hubavoto e che podoben filtyr moje da se uchi sam i dava perfektni 
rezultati (do 99% efektivnost). pri men e kym 97% no trqbva da go 
ucha s poslednite modni spam messages.

tova e moqt opit i sym mnogo dovolen, moje da svurshi rabota i na
nqkoi ot vas, ako li ne pone si zaslujava chovek da si poigrae malko
s nego :))

eto oshte malko teoriq:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_probability
http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/fmi/statist/lectures/prob/prob.htm
http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/vesta/Virtual_Labs/index.html
http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/fmi/statist/statlib/glossary/index.htm
http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/vesta/index.html

no i az ne sym gi chel vsichkite... :/

aaa zabravih da spomena che bogofilter moje da markira syobshteniqta
v qmail a predpolagam i za drugi mta no ne sym naqsno...

P! Vladi.


On Wed, 28 May 2003 17:36:56 +0300
Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas da napravim
 nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte izolirame
 spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.
 
   Pozdravi
  Vesselin Kolev
 
 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 16:22, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
  Zdraveyte,
 
  Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
  mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. Osbennostta koqto
  tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
  Primerno
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri kojto choveka ot
  to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal nqkakyv nepoznat
  subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
  www.pozvanete.com.
 
  Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 9:25 bylgarsko
  vreme (+0300).
 
  Molq pomognete.
 
  BR,
  Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
  http://boyan.ludost.net/
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Re: lug-bg: RedHat 7.2 ili 7.3 anyone ?

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev


Imam 7.3 i 9.0 

7.3 e s 2.4.18-3
8.0 e s 2.4.18-8 (ako ne se lyzha).
9.0 e 2.4.20-??

Blizo sym do 7mi.

Samo che kak stava taka, che ACT, chijto shef (g-n Tzolov - Kubikov) deto plue 
po Linux, polzvat Linux???


On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:45, Peter Kirkov wrote:
   
 7.2  7.3 ?

  :
 2.4.9-7, 2.4.9-33, 2.4.18-5 ,2.4.18-10
 
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Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev
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 Warez-Exchange-Fest, May'2003? :)))



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lug-bg: Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread Niki Savov
v kv. Pavlovo! Barovska mahala :)
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 Izviniavay za spama, ama kade kaza, che e kluba? Mnogo se
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread
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Stockton

 Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:40, Vesselin Kolev :
 Mi dobre, ako zhelaete shte vi pokazha kak pri men raboti podobna
 DNS zona i shte obiasnia kakvi sa hvatkite i pravilata pri izgrazhdaneto
 na podoben tip zona... Pri men tia raboti ot 15 meseca, razbira se samo
 za nuzhdite na poshtenskite mi serveri. No naprimer DNSBL mozhe da
 se prilozhi i za IRC serveri, osobeno ako se polzvat DNSBL za open
 socks ili open proxy.

 Ako mi ostane vreme utre (ako iskash mi napomni i po e-maila),
 makar da sym v dvizhenie shte opisha shemata da doverie za podobna
 systema i shema. Mozhe da e malko dosadno, no ako smetnete tova za
 dosada... niama da go napisha prosto:)))

Pozdravi
  Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread peyo
Super. Znachi moga da idvam s bebeto.

On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:03, Niki Savov wrote:
 v kv. Pavlovo! Barovska mahala :)
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  Peyo
 
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Re[2]: lug-bg: RedHat 7.2 ili 7.3 anyone ?

2003-05-29 Thread Peter Kirkov

Teodor Georgiev Imam 7.3 i 9.0 

Teodor Georgiev 7.3 e s 2.4.18-3
Teodor Georgiev 8.0 e s 2.4.18-8 (ako ne se lyzha).
Teodor Georgiev 9.0 e 2.4.20-??

V takuv sluchai da te pomolia da mi zapishesh 7.3 sas 2.4.18-3 jadro.
Prati off-list telefon da ti se obadia da se razberem.

Teodor Georgiev Blizo sym do 7mi.

Teodor Georgiev Samo che kak stava taka, che ACT, chijto shef (g-n Tzolov - Kubikov) 
deto plue 
Teodor Georgiev po Linux, polzvat Linux???

Ami mnogo prosto - ne e ACT Soft, koito se zanimava s distribucia na
softuer, a e ACT Sofia, koito se zanimava sas Sun Microsystems ( tova
vkliuchva i Solaris ), Cisco i drugi takiva neshta :-)
Little differences is that matter ;-)

 Pozdravi,
 Pesho

Teodor Georgiev On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:45, Peter Kirkov wrote:
   
 7.2  7.3 ?

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 2.4.9-7, 2.4.9-33, 2.4.18-5 ,2.4.18-10
 
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9 strannosti

2003-05-29 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
 ?, 2003-05-29  11:39, Teodor Georgiev :
2 vyprosa:
 
  1. Kyde izchezna Xconfigurator'a ???
redhat-config-xfree ,

  2. Pri instalaciata pyrvo ukazah bylgarski ezik. Sled kato se instalira i 
 zaredih X, to mi iska username. Da ama, klaviaturata mi e BG BDS i ne moga
  da q smenq na english. A Linuxa usernames na BG ne chete :)))
 Kak se opravq tova, bez da se preinstalira?
 
  ,usernames   ?
   ,  /etc/sysconfig/i18n,   : en_US, 
 -,  /etc/X11/XF86Config  Keyboard ,  bg  us

 
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread
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RE: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Boyan Krosnov
I dvete resheniq sa raboteshti.
Az polzvam slednite white i black listi (sys statistikite ot poslednoto
denonoshtie):
RBL Statistics (rejects/24h)
whitelist.lirex.net/accept:9 (0.3%)
blacklist.lirex.net:   356 (12.6%)
blackholes.wirehub.net:1654 (58.5%)
bl.spamcop.net:360 (12.7%)
relays.osirusoft.com:  132 (4.7%)
dnsbl.njabl.org:   83 (2.9%)
proxies.relays.monkeys.com:10 (0.4%)
non-RBL rejects:   224 (7.9%)  // smtp violations,
unexistent sender domain, relay attempts, etc.

Ne polzvam filtrirane na bazata na sydyrjanie.
Ot kakto vyvedohme sistemata v dejstvie (okolo polovin godina) mi se e
sluchvalo tochno dva pyti da blacklistvame nqkoj s kojto iskame da si
govorim. I v dvata sluchaq imashe zashto. I v dvata sluchaq problema
beshe izqsnen po telefona, IP-to im whitelistnato (vypreki riska ot spam
prez tqh) i syobshtenieto im dostaveno do krajniq si poluchatel.
Polzvame tazi sistema samo za firmenite ni adresi (@lirex.bg @lirex.com
@naturella.com, etc). Dropim poshta, ne markirame. Efektivnostta e nad
95%-99%.

Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
http://boyan.ludost.net/
just another techie speaking for himself

 -Original Message-
 From: Vladi Belperchinov-Shabanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam
 
 
 
 zdraveite,
 
 blacklists ne sa reshenie, okazva se (mai) che polovinata
 internet e blacklist-nat i lichno az sum namiral ne-spam pisma
 v koshcheto zaradi takiva spisyci...
 
 otskoro polzvam bogofilter (http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/)
 koito e pisan ot  Eric S. Raymond (avtora na fetchmail za koito ne
 se seshta:))
 
 bogofilter e baziran na metod na Bayes (Bayesian probability). ideqta
 da se izpolzva kato spam filtyr e opisana tuk: 
 http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html
 
 hubavoto e che podoben filtyr moje da se uchi sam i dava perfektni 
 rezultati (do 99% efektivnost). pri men e kym 97% no trqbva da go 
 ucha s poslednite modni spam messages.
 
 tova e moqt opit i sym mnogo dovolen, moje da svurshi rabota i na
 nqkoi ot vas, ako li ne pone si zaslujava chovek da si poigrae malko
 s nego :))
 
 eto oshte malko teoriq:
 http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_probability
 http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/fmi/statist/lectures/prob/prob.htm
 http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/vesta/Virtual_Labs/index.html
 http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/fmi/statist/statlib/glossary/index.htm
 http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/vesta/index.html
 
 no i az ne sym gi chel vsichkite... :/
 
 aaa zabravih da spomena che bogofilter moje da markira syobshteniqta
 v qmail a predpolagam i za drugi mta no ne sym naqsno...
 
 P! Vladi.
 
 
 On Wed, 28 May 2003 17:36:56 +0300
 Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  Ami... ne mislite li, che e kraino vreme povecheto ot nas 
 da napravim
  nash DNS baziran  blacklist. Taka sys syvmestni usilia shte 
 izolirame
  spameri ot vsiakakyv rod.
  
Pozdravi
   Vesselin Kolev
  
  On Wednesday 28 May 2003 16:22, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
   Zdraveyte,
  
   Trqbvat mi speshno vsqkakvi logove (i naj-mnogo e-mail headers) za
   mailove razprashtani ot IP adresa 216.116.124.27. 
 Osbennostta koqto
   tyrsq e mnogo podobni From i To poleta.
   Primerno
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   from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Spama e ot nov tip. Spamerite prosto generirat shum pri 
 kojto choveka ot
   to poleto si misli che choveka ot from poleto e izlygal 
 nqkakyv nepoznat
   subekt. Krajnata cel e da reklamirat dva site-a: www.tefter.com i
   www.pozvanete.com.
  
   Logovete koito sym zasqkal do sega sa ot perioda 9:09 - 
 9:25 bylgarsko
   vreme (+0300).
  
   Molq pomognete.
  
   BR,
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lug-bg: grep-tail ?

2003-05-29 Thread raptor
misleh si nqkoi dali znae programka koqto da kombinira grep i tail toest... da mi 
izwevda +/- X reda ot namereniq ot grep red.

ami twa e..

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Re: lug-bg: REQ: need to recruit Linux people

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev

 
 Imam dylgogodishen opit v oblastta na konsumiraneto na alkoholni napitki.  V 
zavisimost ot tova, koi plashta, podhodiashto definirania environment i 
mezeto moga da preminavam v accelerated mode. V proces na sertificirane
sym. Nqma problemi i da rabotia overtime. 


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 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 13:13, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:

  nishto de , razbrahme che si PHP developer inache se chidia koi kuv e
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   sajaliavam stan greshka
  
  
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Re: lug-bg: grep-tail ?

2003-05-29 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
raptor wrote:
misleh si nqkoi dali znae programka koqto da kombinira grep i tail toest... da mi izwevda +/- X reda ot namereniq ot grep red.
grep -B
grep -A
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Re: lug-bg: Seminar Distro's

2003-05-29 Thread Miroslav Nikolov
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 15:10, you wrote:

 ..,  !

  / 
  
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Re: lug-bg: grep-tail ?

2003-05-29 Thread Ivan Dimitrov
grep +/-X neshto fail

On , 2003-05-29 at 11:48, raptor wrote:
 misleh si nqkoi dali znae programka koqto da kombinira grep i tail toest... da mi 
 izwevda +/- X reda ot namereniq ot grep red.
 
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Re: lug-bg: osoben tip spam

2003-05-29 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Sorry:( otnesoh se... Eto pochvam.

Az shte govoria tuk samo za dnsbl. Black list, koito e baziran samo na
proverka na IP adresite na iniciatorite na SMTP sesii kym MTA.

rhsbl, koiti sa bazirani na formata i sydyrzhanieto na poshtenskia adres
shte obsydia utre ili drug pyt, shtoto dnes za tova niama da mi stigne
i vremeto.


 - DNSBL

Pyrvo software-a koito sym izpolzval. 

Kogato zapochnah izgrazhdaneto na lista, rabotih s ISC BIND  9.2.1. V momenta 
sym s ISC BIND 9.2.2. Mashinata, na koiato se poddryzha lista e sys
slednite paramtri:

OS: Mandrake Linux 8.2, kernel 2.4.18-6mdk
CPU: PII 333 MHz 
RAM:  64MB SDRAM 
HDD: 10.5GB
FS: ext2

Mashinata e svyrzana v 100 Mbps LAN s poddryzhanite ot men MTA (obshto
5 na broi).

Configuracionen file na BIND: /etc/named.conf
Hranilishte za zonalnite file-ove: /var/named/dnsbl

Configuracionen segment za DNSBL vyv file-a /etc/named.conf

zone dnsbl.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg {
type master;
   file /var/named/dnsbl/dnsbl.vpn.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg;
   allow-query { internals;};
   allow-transfer { none;};
};

VNIMANIE!!! Edin ot malkoto sluchai, kogato ne biva da se razreshava
svoboden transfer na zoni e sluchaia sys dnsbl. Prichinata e, che
spamerite mogat da izpolzvat informaciata tam za da nameriat openrelay
hostove i da gi izpolzvat.

Osobenoto pri men e, che az polzvam samo edin centalen DNS server,
i niamam slave serveri za imena. Tova e poradi konrektnata situacia. V 
osbhtia sluchai traibva da se poddyrzha slave mrezha ot serveri za imena,
osobeno ako se raboti pri golemi natovarvania.

###
VNIMANIE: Tova, koeto vizhdate kato konfiguracia se otnasia samo i
edinstveno za localen DNSBL. Tozi list ne vkliuchva prepratki kym
publichni svobodni ili comersailno black lists!
###

###
###
MNOGO GOLIAMO VNIMANIE!
Ako ste ISP i poddryzhate naeti linii i imate mail hub, ne vkliuchvaite tozi
mail hub kym DNSBL, koito gradite i izobshto kym niakakyv blacklist! Tova
mozhe da dovede do konflikti mezhdu vas i klientite. Opityt sochi, che e
po-dobre da ima dva mail hub-a za fortifikacionna shema na vhodiashtata
poshta: edinia da e obvyrzan s black list, a drugia ne i klientite sami da
izbirat prez koi ot dvata mail hub-a shte minat kato bydat izrichno 
predopredeni za koliziite, koito mogat da se poluchat.
###
###

Syntax na RR v zonata na blacklista. 
   
  V zonata na dnsbl se praviat PTR resursni zapisi sypytstvani s TXT RR s
ukazatel za prichinata za pribavianeto na narushitelia ili s ukazvane na
link, kydeto mozhe da byde poluchena informacia za prichinata za postavaneto
na daden IP adres v zonata.

V obsht vid syntax traibva da e

$ORIGIN vashia.dnsbl.domain.
xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq   PTR  127.0.0.x
xxx.yyy.zzz.qqq   TXT  obiasnenie ili nasochvane

Konvencia za izpolzvane na PTR ukazatelite.

  PTR RR traiva da ukazva okteten zapis ot tipa na
127.0.0.2, 127.0.0.3 i t.n... Niama tochno opredeleno pravilo za upotreba
na ukazatelite, zatova vseki blacklist opisva na web site-a si ili drugade
znachenieto na vseki ukazatel. Naprimer:

*  127.0.0.2 - open relays
* 127.0.0.3 - dial-up/dynamic IP ranges
* 127.0.0.4 - Spam Sources
  This will include both commercial spammers as well as some dial-up 
direct-to-mx spammers and open proxies as it's not always possible to 
differentiate between these sources. For commercial spammers, once we have 
spam on file from some of their IPs, we may add their entire IP range if it 
can be reliably determined.
* 127.0.0.5 Multi-stage open relays
  Before adding multi-stage open relays to our list, we make an attempt to 
notify the NIC contacts for their IP space and give them at least one week to 
fix their systems.
* 127.0.0.8 Systems with insecure formmail.cgi or similar CGI scripts 
which turn them into open relays
  This includes the output IP when a server with an insecure formmail CGI 
smarthosts outgoing email through another server or servers.
* 127.0.0.9 Open proxy servers

   i t.n...

Vyzmozhni sa i drugi konvencii. Niakoi software-i mogat da se suobraziavat
s konvenciite, ako tova tova byde ukazano. Shte stane tvyrde dylgo, ako 
pochna da opisvam. Niakoi dnsbl izpolzvat samo edin ukazatel. Edna selekcia
na ednoukazatelni dnsbl mozhete da vidite na adres:

http://www.declude.com/JunkMail/Support/ip4r.htm



Prevencii.

Filtriraite adresnite prostranstva po RFC 1918, ako ne ochakvate vryzki ot 
IP adresi v tehnia systav za predavane na mail kym vashi MTA. Tova mozhe da
byde napraveno i po interace-i. Filtriraite syshto taka multikast adresnite
prostranstva otkym dostyp do 25/tcp (ako razbira se shte filtrirate samo
e-mail).


Postaviane na zapis za proverka.

   Za da proverite dali deistva vashata zona mozhete da postavite slednia
zapis:

$ORIGIN 

Re: lug-bg:

2003-05-29 Thread Spas Pavlov
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:51, Plamen Tonev wrote:

 Good...sega ostava i edno PC s openoffice da ima za projectora?! ;-)
 

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Re: lug-bg: REQ: need to recruit Linux people

2003-05-29 Thread Plamen Tonev
On Thu, 29 May 2003 10:18:03 +0300
peyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Wednesday 28 May 2003 13:13, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
  nishto de , razbrahme che si PHP developer inache se chidia koi kuv e
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   ?, 2003-05-28  12:25, Yavor Shahpasov :
   sajaliavam stan greshka
  
  
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lug-bg: Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread Niki Savov
Za May ne znam no do 15ti June sas sigurnost ste e gotow
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: !


 On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:49, Niki Savov wrote:
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  Warez-Exchange-Fest, May'2003? :)))




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lug-bg: Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread Niki Savov
To mai shte e nai dobre da e prez weekenda ili v petak vacher za da ne ni
prechat Tupanite na folklornia ansambal :) :) :) dosta sa shumnichki!
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Re: lug-bg: Re: lug-bg: !

2003-05-29 Thread peyo
Eeee.   .  
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On Thursday 29 May 2003 13:42, Niki Savov wrote:
 To mai shte e nai dobre da e prez weekenda ili v petak vacher za da ne ni
 prechat Tupanite na folklornia ansambal :) :) :) dosta sa shumnichki!
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Re: lug-bg: REQ: need to recruit Linux people

2003-05-29 Thread Plamen Tonev
On Thu, 29 May 2003 14:13:24 +0300
peyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ,   ...

  - 'my CV' ?
  ?

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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9 strannosti

2003-05-29 Thread Teodor Georgiev
On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:41, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
  ?, 2003-05-29  11:39, Teodor Georgiev :
 2 vyprosa:
 
   1. Kyde izchezna Xconfigurator'a ???

 redhat-config-xfree ,

   2. Pri instalaciata pyrvo ukazah bylgarski ezik. Sled kato se instalira
  i zaredih X, to mi iska username. Da ama, klaviaturata mi e BG BDS i ne
  moga da q smenq na english. A Linuxa usernames na BG ne chete :)))
  Kak se opravq tova, bez da se preinstalira?

   ,usernames   ?

nikoi. Az prosto go vidiah, che ne chete.
Ne mi kazvai, che ako s kirilica na pisha root, che shte mi go hvane. T.e. 
kazhi mi go, nqma da te chuq.

,  /etc/sysconfig/i18n,   : en_US, 
  -,  /etc/X11/XF86Config  Keyboard ,  bg  us

pyrvoto oshte vchera go napravih, drugoto shte opitam. 10x



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Re: lug-bg: Seminar Distro's

2003-05-29 Thread raptor
az move da donesa gentoo i morphix ako nqkoi iska ?

 Spas Pavlov wrote:
  ,
  
 fox4o.   ,
 .
  
 :
  Red Hat 9.0 - 3CD's
  Mandrake 9.1 - 3CD's
  Slackware 9.0
  Debian-Woody -30r1
  SuSe
  
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Re: lug-bg: Redhat 9 strannosti

2003-05-29 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
root   -  ,  
.   , 
 ,..  .

 ?, 2003-05-29  13:43, Teodor Georgiev :
 On Thursday 29 May 2003 11:41, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
   ?, 2003-05-29  11:39, Teodor Georgiev :
  2 vyprosa:
  
1. Kyde izchezna Xconfigurator'a ???
 
  redhat-config-xfree ,
 
2. Pri instalaciata pyrvo ukazah bylgarski ezik. Sled kato se instalira
   i zaredih X, to mi iska username. Da ama, klaviaturata mi e BG BDS i ne
   moga da q smenq na english. A Linuxa usernames na BG ne chete :)))
   Kak se opravq tova, bez da se preinstalira?
 
,usernames   ?
 
 nikoi. Az prosto go vidiah, che ne chete.
 Ne mi kazvai, che ako s kirilica na pisha root, che shte mi go hvane. T.e. 
 kazhi mi go, nqma da te chuq.
 
 ,  /etc/sysconfig/i18n,   : en_US, 
   -,  /etc/X11/XF86Config  Keyboard ,  bg  us
 
 pyrvoto oshte vchera go napravih, drugoto shte opitam. 10x
 
 
 
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Re: lug-bg: REQ: need to recruit Linux people

2003-05-29 Thread peyo
Hubavo. Dobre. 


On Thursday 29 May 2003 14:59, Plamen Tonev wrote:
 On Thu, 29 May 2003 14:13:24 +0300

 peyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  'my CV'   
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