Re: lug-bg: bg-linux i knoppix

2003-10-10 Thread George Danchev 
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 17:42, raptor wrote:
 thanx,

 a sega kak da izlyva OpenOffice da polzwa shriftowe ot HDD (kato samiq
 Knoppix bootwa ot CD), zashtoto knoppix-a iglevda nqma kirilski shriftowe..
 (dali ste ima nqkakaw po oprosten wariqnt za instalaciqta i setwaneto im)

Zna4i kym X-sa mozhe da dobqvqsh i mahash dinami4no paths kym font dirs 
(ekvivalentno na FontPath's ot XF86Config-4 file-a). Ako imash na hdd dql dir 
s fonts, mozhei TTF fonts na MS ili tezi ot msttcorefonts debian package-a:

xset +fp /mnt/path/to/font/dir/on/hdd/partition
a ako iskash mahash s xset -fp /path

sled tova set-vash mapping-a na X-sa, naprimer s:
setxkbmap bg phonetic_enhanced grp:alt_shift_toggle grp_led:scroll
ili
setxkbmap bg bds_enhanced grp:alt_shift_toggle grp_led:scroll

Za console (TTY) e malko po-interesno motaneto (tova se izpylnqva samo na 
console TTY, a ne pod XFree86). Mozhesh da rabotish s low-level tools kato 
consolechars, loadkets, kbd_mode, install-keymap. Mozhesh oba4e da si vzemesh 
nagotovo programata cyr ot debianskiq paket console-cyrillic. Da kazhem 4e si 
q kopnal na disketa i ot tam i run-vash: 
./cyr -h (4etesh help-a) 
./cyr --commands , ste vidish kvi low-level commands se izpylnqvat.
i izpylnqvash naprimer:

./cyr bg_pnon --font=Cyr_a8x14 --encoding=cp1251 \
--ttys='TTY1 TTY2 TTY3 i t.n.' right_ctrl_toggle

s ./cyr --commands ste vish kakvi low-level commands se izpylnqvat. Ponezhe v 
knoppix vse oste nqma tozi paket (Tilix neznam dali go ima???), a za da 
setnesh s kakvo da minavash v cyr/lat ste ti trqbvash negovite shere files, 
to vsi4ki KDB_OPTIONS nqma da minat vkl. i gornoto right_shift_toggle deto 
sme go zadali posledno. Tova go ima v debian, no go nqma na knoppix CD-to, za 
tova izpylnqvash cyr bez nego, a posle pishesh:

loadkeys /usr/share/console-cyrillice/option-right-control-toggle.map
(tova e debianskiq path, no ti mozhe da vzemesh tezi option-*.map files ot 
console-cyrilic kojto si go vzel ot debian archiva kato deb ili source 
package, store-nal si go na hdd i si mount-nal fs-a pod knoppix ;-)

Po princip v knoppixite ima vsi4ko neobhodimo programata cyr ot 
console-ciryllic da raboti, s izklu4enie na tezi option-*.map s koito da 
set-vash s kakvo (s kyf key) da minavash cyr/lat.

mislq, 4e tova e dostaty4no ;-) ... i az go borq seki pyt na ryka kogato mi se 
nalaga, 4e me myrzi da store-na nekvi skromni scripts na disketa ... myka, 
myka ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: bg-linux i knoppix

2003-10-08 Thread Yavor Yanchev 
  bglinux. Knoppix e   Debian 
GNU/Linux,.   
config   X:

Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Generic Keyboard
   Driver  keyboard
   Option  CoreKeyboard
   Option  XkbRules  xfree86
   Option  XkbModel  pc104
   Option  XkbLayout bg(phonetic)
   Option  XkbOptions
grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
EndSection

   BG X.  
X.



raptor wrote:

nqkoi da ima ideq moga li da instaliram bg-linux po nqkakaw nachin taka che knoppix-a kato bootwa da go polzwa taka che da 
mogat horata da si pishat na kirilica (de fakto kak se kazwa paketa pod debian)

Mislq da konwertiram nqkolko mashini na knoppix ta dolu gore gledam :

1. mrevowiq printer gledam che ima wizard pod KDE
2. Sambata syshto (ima nqkawa lisa)
3. ostawa kirilicata !?
4. za poshtata ste polzwam Kmail
Iskam da ostawq bootwaneto da e ot CD i wsichki konfiguracii ste gi zarevda ot HDD-to.
(ne iskam da go prehwyrlqm Knoppix-a na hdd)
tia.

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Re: lug-bg: bg-linux i knoppix

2003-10-08 Thread raptor 
thanx,

a sega kak da izlyva OpenOffice da polzwa shriftowe ot HDD (kato samiq Knoppix bootwa 
ot CD), zashtoto knoppix-a iglevda nqma kirilski shriftowe..
(dali ste ima nqkakaw po oprosten wariqnt za instalaciqta i setwaneto im)


|  bglinux. Knoppix e   Debian 
|GNU/Linux,.   
|config   X:
|
|Section InputDevice
|Identifier  Generic Keyboard
|Driver  keyboard
|Option  CoreKeyboard
|Option  XkbRules  xfree86
|Option  XkbModel  pc104
|Option  XkbLayout bg(phonetic)
|Option  XkbOptions
|grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
|EndSection
|
|   BG X.  
|X.
|
|
|
|
|raptor wrote:
|
|nqkoi da ima ideq moga li da instaliram bg-linux po nqkakaw nachin taka che 
knoppix-a kato bootwa da go polzwa taka che da 
|mogat horata da si pishat na kirilica (de fakto kak se kazwa paketa pod debian)
|
|Mislq da konwertiram nqkolko mashini na knoppix ta dolu gore gledam :
|
| 1. mrevowiq printer gledam che ima wizard pod KDE
| 2. Sambata syshto (ima nqkawa lisa)
| 3. ostawa kirilicata !?
| 4. za poshtata ste polzwam Kmail
|
|Iskam da ostawq bootwaneto da e ot CD i wsichki konfiguracii ste gi zarevda ot 
HDD-to.
|(ne iskam da go prehwyrlqm Knoppix-a na hdd)
|tia.

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Re: lug-bg: bg-linux i knoppix

2003-10-08 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev 
  fonts   X-  
 
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raptor wrote:

thanx,

a sega kak da izlyva OpenOffice da polzwa shriftowe ot HDD (kato samiq Knoppix bootwa 
ot CD), zashtoto knoppix-a iglevda nqma kirilski shriftowe..
(dali ste ima nqkakaw po oprosten wariqnt za instalaciqta i setwaneto im)
|  bglinux. Knoppix e   Debian 
|GNU/Linux,.   
|config   X:
|
|Section InputDevice
|Identifier  Generic Keyboard
|Driver  keyboard
|Option  CoreKeyboard
|Option  XkbRules  xfree86
|Option  XkbModel  pc104
|Option  XkbLayout bg(phonetic)
|Option  XkbOptions
|grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
|EndSection
|
|   BG X.  
|X.
|
|
|
|
|raptor wrote:
|
|nqkoi da ima ideq moga li da instaliram bg-linux po nqkakaw nachin taka che knoppix-a kato bootwa da go polzwa taka che da 
|mogat horata da si pishat na kirilica (de fakto kak se kazwa paketa pod debian)
|
|Mislq da konwertiram nqkolko mashini na knoppix ta dolu gore gledam :
|
| 1. mrevowiq printer gledam che ima wizard pod KDE
| 2. Sambata syshto (ima nqkawa lisa)
| 3. ostawa kirilicata !?
| 4. za poshtata ste polzwam Kmail
|
|Iskam da ostawq bootwaneto da e ot CD i wsichki konfiguracii ste gi zarevda ot HDD-to.
|(ne iskam da go prehwyrlqm Knoppix-a na hdd)
|tia.

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Re: lug-bg: bg-linux i knoppix

2003-10-08 Thread Valentin Stoykov 
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 15:40, raptor wrote:
 nqkoi da ima ideq moga li da instaliram bg-linux po nqkakaw nachin taka che
 knoppix-a kato bootwa da go polzwa taka che da mogat horata da si pishat na
 kirilica (de fakto kak se kazwa paketa pod debian)

 Mislq da konwertiram nqkolko mashini na knoppix ta dolu gore gledam :

  1. mrevowiq printer gledam che ima wizard pod KDE
  2. Sambata syshto (ima nqkawa lisa)
  3. ostawa kirilicata !?
  4. za poshtata ste polzwam Kmail

 Iskam da ostawq bootwaneto da e ot CD i wsichki konfiguracii ste gi zarevda
 ot HDD-to. (ne iskam da go prehwyrlqm Knoppix-a na hdd)
 tia.


 /   
 . (  HowTo - 
http://vstoykov.hit.bg/cyrillic/linux/bg_linux_howto_0_0_4.htm)

 :
http://vstojkov.hit.bg/data/knoppix_configs/configs.tbz
http://vstojkov.hit.bg/data/knoppix_configs/knoppix.sh
 Knoppix 3.2.
   /KNOPPIX  CD-.

 ,
 .
   KDE-().   
 .,   
 XF86Config.
  perl ,  fstab 
   FAT32  (  ).
 ,  configs.tbz 
().
  /home/knoppix/.fonts  /cdrom/
fonts,   True Type . (   
   )

  fonts.dir:

mkfontdir -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings
ttmkfdir  fonts.dir
fc-cache

  /home/knoppix/.xftconfig   
:

#$XFree86$

dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western
dir /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives
dir ~/.fonts


 configs.tbz  
  .

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Re: lug-bg: [bg-linux]

2003-04-06 Thread 
George Danchev wrote:
On 05 04 2003 22:34, raptor wrote:
instaliram si bglinux (rychno) pod gentoo.

i koeto mi e nai interesno, kak ewentualno moga nai lesno i byrzo da
wkluchwam/izkluchwam kirilicata pootdelno za conzolata da izklucha
kirilizaciqta na X, no da zapazq wamovnostta da pisha kirilica (toest da
izklucha wsqkakawo kirilizirane na menuta,ikoni etc...)
: 
 LANG=bg_BG 
.  ,
  .  ,  
LC_MESSAGES.   ,   LC_MESSAGES=C  LANG=bg_BG,
 ,  
  .  

http://www.fifi.org/cgi-bin/man2html/usr/share/man/man1/localedef.1.gz

   .  
X . bglinux   
   ~/.cyr_defaults  ~/.xcyrillic.


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Re: lug-bg: [bg-linux]

2003-04-05 Thread George Danchev 
On 05 04 2003 22:34, raptor wrote:
 hi,

 instaliram si bglinux (rychno) pod gentoo.
 - Ta waprosa mi e move li nqkoi da obqsni shematichno kwo prawi
 set-bulgarian-env. - Koi failowe pipa.

Zna4i rabotata e takava: set-bulgarian-env ot bglinux (upstream na Anton) e 
4asten slu4aj na script-a set-language-env (na Tomohiro Kubota, posle 
modificiran ot Anton) kojto idva s debian package-a language-env.. t.e. za 
ustanovqvane na bulgarian environment ... estestveno set-language-env 
ustanovqva i drugi environments. Tova koeto pravqt e 4e modificirat personal 
dot files. Samo root 4rez -E option mozhe da set-va /etc/skel ili 
/etc/environment, globalno. Tezi scripts ne generovat locali naprimer, pri 
Debian za tqh se op-va /etc/locale.gen i se popylvat redove kato:
bg_BG CP1251
bg_BG.URF-8 UTF-8

sled tova se run-va locale-gen i toj vika tam localedef s neobhodimite options 
da kompilqsva ;-). Ti kaza 4e si Perl programist, t.e. ne bi trqbvaloda 
imashproblemi s razbiraneto na tova kakwo pravi set-bulgarian | 
language-env;-)... Razbira se tova depends ot paketa locales kojto se 
konfig-va predi tova. 

Sega trqbva da se ima predvid 4e bglinux dokolkoto vizhdam sledva language-env 
i console-cyrillic packages na Debian. T.e. upstream software-a bglinux v 
Debian e split-nat na dve grubo kazano, a samiq bglinuxe edindebian source 
package. Tova koeto ti prepory4vam da napravish e slednoto: Vizh na edin 
Debian box koj files idvat s language-env i console-cyrillic packages (dpkg 
-L) . Osven tova cd /tmp ; apt-get source language-env onsole-cyrillic i 
razgledaj sources+docs. Opitaj se da napravish podoben po funkcionalnost 
ebuild za Gentoo, kojto da install-va tezi files na tezi mesta. Sled tova 
trqbva da reshish kak ste zametish funkcionalnostta na debconf pri 
konfiguriraneto na tezi pakages, t.e. deto ti se zadavat vyprosite za 
sredata. I estestveno tozi ebuild trqbva da zavisi ot perl (t.e. trqbva da e 
installed) i paketa locales (debian's, ina4e e 4ast ot upstream glibc) ako sa 
paketirani otdelno ot glibc-to. V Debian depends i ot debconf stoto tezi 
packages (language-env i console-cyrillic) go vikat da zadavat vyprosi s 
nego. Osventova vizh dali pri Gentoo ima analog na Debian's 
/usr/bin/locale-gen (s config /etc/locale.gen). S dve dumi nestata mogat da 
se organizirat i za Gentoo taka kulturno kakto sa napraveni za Debain i da se 
upload-ne v official archiva na Gentoo i da se reshi zada4ata vednyzh za 
vinagi. T.e. trqbva da zamenish debian's maintainer scripts s na4ina po kojto 
Gentoo konfigurira. (eventualen problem e 4e lipsata na analog na debconf, no 
mozhe da se izmisli workaround). Az bih ti pomognal da napravime podoben 
ebuild za Gentoo (kato za na4alo v otdelen CVS), no vse nqmam vreme da se 
razpravq s praveneto na ebuilds, pyk trqbva da slagam pak Gentoo da testq i 
t.n., abe dylga i shiroka. Neznam dali Anton ili nqkoj drug mozhe da se navie 
ida ima vreme da help-ne za edna takava zada4ka zaka4ka pointegriraneto na 
bglinux v Gentoo... Ina4e si ostava polzvaneto mu as is, e.g. upstream.

 i koeto mi e nai interesno, kak ewentualno moga nai lesno i byrzo da
 wkluchwam/izkluchwam kirilicata pootdelno za conzolata da izklucha
 kirilizaciqta na X, no da zapazq wamovnostta da pisha kirilica (toest da
 izklucha wsqkakawo kirilizirane na menuta,ikoni etc...)

Tuka pitash malko protivore4ivo ;-)
Zna4i za da pishesh i 4etesh syotveten ezik v dadeno kodirane ili kodiraniq 
trqbva da imash locales+fonts i syotvetnite prilozheniq da znaqt za tqh i da 
gi polzvat. Syvsem drug e vyprosyt ako tezi prilozheniq imat i preveden 
potrebitelski interface na bulgarski. Za nqkoj kato KDE prevedenite 
interfaces, sa split-nati kato otdelni packages (e.g. i18n-bg), togava 
prostone instalirash tozi package i nezavisimo ot tova 4e imash exported 
LANG=bg_BG te si startirat v default (en) interface. Pri Sylpheed 
lokaliziraniq interfaces e vypros na edna promenliva v configure.in, t.e. 
mahash bg ot ALL_LINGUAS, export LANG=bg_BG imash locales i fonts i stratira 
s en menuta kato sizapazvash vyzmozhnostta da 4etesh i pishesh na bylgarski. 
Pri Mozilla pyk localiziraniq interface se postiga po syvsem drug na4in... 
Tova ti go razpravqm ponezhe prilozheniqta  imashti zakompiliran bg 
interfacekatovidqt LANG=bg_BG startirat v bg interface. Ako mahnesh (unset) 
LANG tovaga pyk ste izgubish vyzmozhnostta da 4etesh i pishesh na kirilica v 
tezi prolozheniq. Za tova prosto nekompilirash/neinstarash syotvetniq bg 
interface i si zapazvash vyzmozhnossta da 4eteshi pishesh na bg v syotvetnto 
kodirane (CP1251, UTF-8...) imajki syotvetnite locales+fonts. Ponezhe 
interfaces na prilozheniqta (razbiraj menutata) se lokalizirat 4rez gettext v 
90% ot slu4ajte, to rezonen e vyprosyt mozhe li on-the-fly da se smenq 
naprimer ot bg menuta na english, i obratno, posle na frenski nemski i t.n. 
na kvotoe prevedeno. Okazva se 4e tova e ograni4enie na gettext i ne mozhe da 
se pravi on-the-fly, t.e.dokato raboti

Re: lug-bg: bg-linux i Gabber(Jabber)]

2002-07-01 Thread bgforum2002 

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-20 Thread Rumen Krasstev 

  ,  Debora,   
  
 ""   Dwarf's Guide to Debian GNU/Linux  , 
  
   : 
http://www.polaris.net/~dwarf/dwarfs-debian-guide_2.2.95.pdf

...may the source be with you.
:-)))


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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-20 Thread Ivan Petrov 

.ami ima nesto takova, no se pishe s malki bukvi (original).
ot Anton ZInoviev. Mnogo polezna rabota varshi, no ne e palno savmestim s
vsiakakvi linux distros.
Az ne moga da pisha programi, no mislia, che ste e dobar variant da se
prodalji i dorazvie izgradenoto ot nego.
no tova kojto iska - v sinhron i saglasie ot avtora na bglinux :)
Pozdravi!

Ivan Petrov

- Original Message -
From: "Ivaylo Toshev" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux


 Àç èìàì ñëåäíîòî ïðåäëîæåíèå:
 Âìåñòî äúëãî è ìðà÷íî äà óìóâàìå âúðõó êîé äèñòðèáóòèâ äà ñòúïèì, íå å ëè
 ïî-äîáðå äà íàïðàâèì íå öÿë äèñòðèáóòèâ, à BG-LINUX äà å ïàêåò îò : (
 øðèôòîâå, êèðèëèçèðàùè ïðîãðàìè, ëîêàëèçèðàùè òàêèâà - .po , .mo çà
 ðàçëè÷íèòå ïðèëîæåíèÿ + ðàçëè÷íè äîïúëíèòåëíè íåùà êàòî ðå÷íèöè , ñïåë
÷åêúðè
 è ò.í).
  È â òàêúâ ñëó÷é BG-LINUX ìîæå äà áúäå "ïðåíîñèì" âúðõó âñåêè äèñòðèáóòèâ.
 Êàê ? Àìè ñèãóðíî ùå ñå íàìåðÿò ïî-íÿêîëêî äóøè êîèòî ðàáîòÿò íà Slack,
 RedHat, Mandrake, Caldera, Debian, SuSE ., êîèòî äà ãî àäàïòèðàò êúì
 ñúîòâåòíèÿ äèñòðèáóòèâ.

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-20 Thread Stanislav Lechev 

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On Friday 20 April 2001 22:25, you wrote:
   ,  Debora,  
   
  ""   Dwarf's Guide to Debian GNU/Linux  ,
   
:
 http://www.polaris.net/~dwarf/dwarfs-debian-guide_2.2.95.pdf

 ...may the source be with you.

 :-)))

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-19 Thread 

Íà 17 àïðèë 2001 (âòîðíèê) â 15:42 ÷àñà Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) ïèñà:
 mda...
 move bi si praw 
 mnogo e rabotata po poddryvkata...
 
 no zashto tochno debina...
 az bih glasuwal za Slackware...

Çàùîòî åäíà îò öåëèòå, ïðè ðàçðàáîòâàíåòî íà Äåáèàí, å äà áúäå ìíîãî
ëåñíî íà íåãîâà îñíîâà äà ñå ïðàâÿò íîâè äèñòðèáóöèè.  Äà ñå íàïðàâè
äèñòðèáóöèÿ íà îñíîâàòà íà Äåáèàí å ðàáîòà çà åäèí äåí, çàùîòî âñè÷êè
íåîáõîäèìè èíñòðóìåíòè ñà íàëèöå è ñà ÷àñò îò äèñòðèáóöèÿòà, à ïðè
Slackware ùå òðÿáâà ñàìè äà ãè àäàïòèðàìå.

Âñúùíîñò è äà íå ïðàâèì BG-Linux, Äåáèàí ñè å BG-Linux (èìàì ïðåäâèä
áúäåùèÿ Äåáèàí).  Ïðîñòî ïðè èíñòàëàöèÿòà ïîòðåáèòåëÿò êàçâà, ÷å èñêà
ïîääðúæêà çà êèðèëèöà (task-cyrillic) è ãîòîâî.

Òîâà, êîåòî îáà÷å íå ìè õàðåñâà ïðè Äåáèàí è çàòîâà ìîæå äà ñå íàëîæè äà
ñå íàïðàâè BG-Äåáèàí å: ìíîãî ðÿäêî èçëèçàò íîâè âåðñèè (âåäíúæ íà 2
ãîäèíè) è íå ñå ïîáèðà íà 1 CD è çíà÷è íå ìîæå äà ñòàíå ïðèòóðêà íà
ñïèñàíèå.

 razni mandrake, corel, redhat... tnt sa mnogo user
 friendly spored mene i ne sym siguren che shte imame
 golqm uspeh
 debian-a pyk ne e za wseki ...
 po tochno toj e za naprednalite
 
 a slackware-a e nqkyde posredata spored mene :)

À ñïîðåä ìåíå Slackware å ïîäõîäÿù çà ñúâñåì íàïðåäíàëè è ñúâñåì
íà÷èíàåùè, äðóãèòå äèñòðèáóöèè ñà ïî ñðåäàòà. ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-19 Thread Luben Karavelov 

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:14:28PM +0300, Àíòîí Çèíîâèåâ wrote:
 Íà 17 àïðèë 2001 (âòîðíèê) â 15:42 ÷àñà Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) ïèñà:
  mda...
  move bi si praw 
  mnogo e rabotata po poddryvkata...
  
  no zashto tochno debina...
  az bih glasuwal za Slackware...
 
 Çàùîòî åäíà îò öåëèòå, ïðè ðàçðàáîòâàíåòî íà Äåáèàí, å äà áúäå ìíîãî
 ëåñíî íà íåãîâà îñíîâà äà ñå ïðàâÿò íîâè äèñòðèáóöèè.  Äà ñå íàïðàâè
 äèñòðèáóöèÿ íà îñíîâàòà íà Äåáèàí å ðàáîòà çà åäèí äåí, çàùîòî âñè÷êè
 íåîáõîäèìè èíñòðóìåíòè ñà íàëèöå è ñà ÷àñò îò äèñòðèáóöèÿòà, à ïðè
 Slackware ùå òðÿáâà ñàìè äà ãè àäàïòèðàìå.
 
 Âñúùíîñò è äà íå ïðàâèì BG-Linux, Äåáèàí ñè å BG-Linux (èìàì ïðåäâèä
 áúäåùèÿ Äåáèàí).  Ïðîñòî ïðè èíñòàëàöèÿòà ïîòðåáèòåëÿò êàçâà, ÷å èñêà
 ïîääðúæêà çà êèðèëèöà (task-cyrillic) è ãîòîâî.
 
 Òîâà, êîåòî îáà÷å íå ìè õàðåñâà ïðè Äåáèàí è çàòîâà ìîæå äà ñå íàëîæè äà
 ñå íàïðàâè BG-Äåáèàí å: ìíîãî ðÿäêî èçëèçàò íîâè âåðñèè (âåäíúæ íà 2
 ãîäèíè) è íå ñå ïîáèðà íà 1 CD è çíà÷è íå ìîæå äà ñòàíå ïðèòóðêà íà
 ñïèñàíèå.
 
  razni mandrake, corel, redhat... tnt sa mnogo user
  friendly spored mene i ne sym siguren che shte imame
  golqm uspeh
  debian-a pyk ne e za wseki ...
  po tochno toj e za naprednalite
  
  a slackware-a e nqkyde posredata spored mene :)
 
 À ñïîðåä ìåíå Slackware å ïîäõîäÿù çà ñúâñåì íàïðåäíàëè è ñúâñåì
 íà÷èíàåùè, äðóãèòå äèñòðèáóöèè ñà ïî ñðåäàòà. ;-)
 
   Ñ ïîçäðàâ: Àíòîí Çèíîâèåâ
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Àìè âå÷å èìà progeny-debian. Îñâåí âñè÷êè óäîáñòâà íà äåáèàí å íà 1 CD,
âêëþ÷âà íàé-íîâèòå íåùà è êàçâàò, ÷å å "user-fiendly": ãðàôè÷íà èíñòàëàöèÿ,
ãðàôè÷åí èíòåðôåéñ êúì apt-get è ò.í. Îðèåíòèðàí å êúì ðàáîòíè ñòàíöèè è å 
äîðè ïî-äåáèàí îò îôèöèàëíèÿ - ëèäåð íà ïðîåêòà å Éàí Ìúðäîê, òîçè äåòî 
íàâðåìåòî ìó è õðóìíàëî äà ïî÷íå äà ïðàâè ñàìèÿ äåáèàí, è íà êàãîòî îò÷àñòè
äåáÈÀÍ å êðúñòåí.
Òà ìîæå áè òîâà å äîáúð èçáîð çà äèñòíèáóöèÿ, êîÿòî äà ñå áúëãàðèçèðà - ëåñíî
ñå ðàçïðîñòðàíÿâà - 1 CD, èìà íåâåðîÿòíî ãîëÿì èçáîð îò ïàêåòè, çàùîòî ñè å äåáèàí-
èíñòàë è ñëåä òîâà apt-get dist-upgrade êúì debian unstable/testing. Ïðîáëåìà å
äà ñå áúëãàðèçèðà â íåéíàòà îôèöèàëíà âåðñèÿ.

Ëþáåí

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-19 Thread Nickola Kolev 

 Òóêà îïèðàìå â íåùî èíòåðåñíî - ßí Ìüðäîê ëè òðÿáâà äà ïèøåì, èëè Èàí
 Ìüðäîê :))) È ñüîòâåòíî Äåáèàí èëè Äåáÿí :)))

Àìè Ian ìîæå äà ñå ÷åòå è Èúí, çàâèñè...
À çà Äåáèàí - íàçâàíèåòî âå÷å å ïðèåëî ãðàæäàíñòâåíîñò, ïî êàêúâòî è íà÷èí
äà ñå ïðîèçíàñÿ èìåòî íà åäèí îò îñíîâàòåëèòå ìó.

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-19 Thread Marian Popov 

  Izviniavai kolega kak pravish tova sys "Translated message" i kakyv mail
client polzvash ?

mano



On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Julian Stoev wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:02:58PM +0300, Àíòîí Çèíîâèåâ wrote:
 |È òîâà å ãîòîâî: ïàêåòúò ñå íàðè÷à language-env è ñðåä åçèöèòå, êîèòî
 |ïîääúðæà, å è áúëãàðñêèÿò.
 
 Äà, àìà íåùî ìàé ñå ïîÿâè ïðîáëåì ñ ðóñêèÿ íàñêîðî. ;-) 
 Ïîæåëàâàì òè äà óäúðæèø ñèòèàöèÿòà... ;-))
 
 --JS
 
 -- -- Translated message begin  -- --
 
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:02:58PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 |I tova e gotovo: paketut se naricha language-env i sred ezicite, koito
 |poddurja, e i bulgarskiiat.
 
 Da, ama neshto mai se poiavi problem s ruskiia naskoro. ;-) 
 Pojelavam ti da udurjish sitiaciiata... ;-))
 
 --JS
 
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RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-17 Thread Boyan Krosnov 
Title: RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux






Spored men rabotata po poddyrjaneto na edna distribuciq e poweche ot kolkoto moje cqloto bylgarsko linux obshteswo da si pozwoli. Po-skoro realistichno e da se misli za klon na nqkoq dobre poddyrjana, free distribuciq sys dobyr package management (chetete Debian).

BR,

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 predpolagam mnogo ot was sa se zamislqli za linux distro na BG

 wivdam che mnogo hora prewevdat towa..onowa

 no mislite li che obshtestwoto shte se zaribi poweche ako ima

 BG-Linux kojto da ne e prewevdan linux a prosto distro napraweno

 ot nishtoto

 

 zqpah edin site i ako nqkoj se interesuwa:

 

 http://www.andamooka.org/reader.pl?section=lfs

 Linux From Scratch

 

 w towa knivle pishe kak da si naprawim distro ot 0

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RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-17 Thread Georgi Georgiev 


--- Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Spored men rabotata po poddyrjaneto na edna
 distribuciq e poweche ot
 kolkoto moje cqloto bylgarsko linux obshteswo da si
 pozwoli. Po-skoro
 realistichno e da se misli za klon na nqkoq dobre
 poddyrjana, free
 distribuciq sys dobyr package management (chetete
 Debian).
 
 BR,
 --
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 Network Administrator
 Lirex BG Ltd. 

Napalno sam saglasen s Boyan !

Mai Debian e edinstvenia vazmojen izbor za takova
neshto i to v goliama stepen e zapo4nato (a moje
da se kaje i dokarano do sredata) ot Anton Zinoviev
- na negovia ftp server ima Debian paketi za
kirilizacia, dostata4no e da dobavite tozi red: 

deb ftp://lml.bas.bg/home/anton/debian potato/ 

vav fileto si /etc/apt/sources.list

i vashia Debian stava pochti BG-Linux.

Razbira se mogat tam da se slojat i ostanalite
specifi4ni BG-paketi (re4nika KBE Dictionary
naprimer),
kakto i niakakav metapaket za konfigurirane
na kirilizaciata i neshtata savsem sthe zaprilichat. 




 


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RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-17 Thread Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) 

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mda...
move bi si praw 
mnogo e rabotata po poddryvkata...

no zashto tochno debina...
az bih glasuwal za Slackware...
werno che dosega nqmashe koj znae kakwa poddryvka
no gledam che horata sa se wzeli w ryce :)

pyk i nali ideqta e da e dostypen do all users
t.e. do prohovdashtite i naprednalite
spored mene slackware e perfektnata distribuciq

razni mandrake, corel, redhat... tnt sa mnogo user
friendly spored mene i ne sym siguren che shte imame
golqm uspeh
debian-a pyk ne e za wseki ...
po tochno toj e za naprednalite

a slackware-a e nqkyde posredata spored mene :)


On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Boyan Krosnov wrote:

 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:35:16 +0300
 From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux

 Spored men rabotata po poddyrjaneto na edna distribuciq e poweche ot
 kolkoto moje cqloto bylgarsko linux obshteswo da si pozwoli. Po-skoro
 realistichno e da se misli za klon na nqkoq dobre poddyrjana, free
 distribuciq sys dobyr package management (chetete Debian).

 BR,
 --
 Boyan Krosnov (http://www.nat.bg/~bkrosnov)
 Network Administrator
 Lirex BG Ltd.

  -Original Message-
  From: Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:14 PM
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  predpolagam mnogo ot was sa se zamislqli za linux distro na BG
  wivdam che mnogo hora prewevdat towa..onowa
  no mislite li che obshtestwoto shte se zaribi poweche ako ima
  BG-Linux kojto da ne e prewevdan linux a prosto distro napraweno
  ot nishtoto
 
  zqpah edin site i ako nqkoj se interesuwa:
 
  http://www.andamooka.org/reader.pl?section=lfs
  Linux From Scratch
 
  w towa knivle pishe kak da si naprawim distro ot 0
  (from scratch)
 
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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-17 Thread Luben Karavelov 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 02:13:40PM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote:
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 predpolagam mnogo ot was sa se zamislqli za linux distro na BG
 wivdam che mnogo hora prewevdat towa..onowa
 no mislite li che obshtestwoto shte se zaribi poweche ako ima
 BG-Linux kojto da ne e prewevdan linux a prosto distro napraweno
 ot nishtoto
 
 zqpah edin site i ako nqkoj se interesuwa:
 
 http://www.andamooka.org/reader.pl?section=lfs
 Linux From Scratch
 
 w towa knivle pishe kak da si naprawim distro ot 0
 (from scratch)
 
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ako triabva da ima distribuzia na linux na bulgarski, v neia triabva da ima 
maksimalen broi neshta, za da ima smisyl. A inache sysadminite niama da im e
osobeno interesno da si instalirat po serverite bg-linux. prosto n im triabva.
tova triabva da e interesno na useri-te.

a za da se napravi podobna distribucia se iziskva mnoogoo resurs, 
koito mislia nie niamame. za tova mi se struva mnogo po-razumno da se napraviat
dostatychno na broi, dobre poddurzhani paketi kym niakoia ot distribuciite,
koito da dobaviat kym neya lipsvashtata na nas bulgarite funkcionalnost.

kato primer bih iskal da posocha dobrata rabota, koiato Anton Zinoviev pravi
za debian. 

syshto bih iskal da popitam, dali niakoi polzva za bulgarizacia na 
LaTeX edin paket "bgsup". spored men malko sa neshtata, koito mogat da se iskat
poveche ot takava poddryzhka na bulgarski v LaTeX. niama li zelanie niakoi
da napravi deb, che mi pisna da redaktiram configuraciite naryka?

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Re: lug-bg: BG-Linux

2001-04-17 Thread Valentin Valchev 



Ïî÷òè íàïúëíî ñúì ñúãëàñåí çà Slackware íî òîâà íå çíà÷è ÷å 
àêîíåäàé ñè áîæå
ñòàíå íÿêîé äåíâèäèì Linux íà áúëãàðñêè òî òîâà òðÿáâà 
äà å íÿêîÿ îïðåäåëåíà
äèñòðèáóöèÿ. Íå âÿðâàì ÷å ùîì ìîæåø äà êèðèëèçèðàø Debian íÿìà 
äà óñïååø
è ñúñ Slackware èëè RedHat èëè Mandrake ...

Íî êîëêîòî è äà ñå ìú÷èì äà êèðèëèçèðàìå íÿêîÿ äèñòðèáóöèÿ 
òîâà ùå ñà íàïðàçíè
óñèëèÿ. Íàé-äîáðå å äà ñå ðàáîòè íà íèâî ïàêåò, äà ñå ðàáîòè ñ 
òåçè õîðà êîèòî
ïèøàò ïðèëîæåíèÿ êîèòî ñå èçïîëçâàò. Äà ñå ðàáîòè ñ åêèïà íà 
GNOME, KDE,
WindowMaker è ñ òåçè ñúçäàâàùè ïðîëîæåíèÿ çà òåçè 
ñðåäè.

Åäíî áúëãàðèçèðàíî ïðèëîæåíèå (áúëãàðèçèðàíî ïðèåìàéòå çà 
'ïðåâåäåíî íà áúëãàðñêè' ;)
ñè å íà áúëãàðñêè íà êàêâàòî è äèñòðèáóöèÿ äà ãî 
ñëîæèø.

Èìà õîðà êîèòî ñà ïîåëè âå÷å òåçè íàñîêè. Òå áèõà ìîãëè äà 
ïîêàæàò è íà äðóãèòå êàêâî
òî÷íî òðÿáâà äà íàïðàâÿò. Ìîãàò äà íàïèøàò ðå÷íèöè íà 
íàé-÷åñòî ïîëçâàíèòå òåðìèíè
è ïðåâîäà èì íà áúëãàðñêè (ðå÷íèöèòå ñà íåîáõîäèìè çà äà íÿìà 
ðàçëè÷èÿ â ïðåâîäèòå
íà òåðìèíèòå).

Ñòèãà äà èìà è 2ìà êîèòî äà ñå õâàíàò äà ïðåâåæäàò íÿìà äà 
ìèíå ìíîãî âðåìå è
ùå ìîæåì äà ãëåäàìå íà GNOME, KDE è ëþáèìèòå ñè ïðîãðàìè íà 
áúëãàðñêè.

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  Subject: RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux
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  SHA1mda...move bi si praw mnogo e rabotata po 
  poddryvkata...no zashto tochno debina...az bih glasuwal za 
  Slackware...werno che dosega nqmashe koj znae kakwa poddryvkano gledam 
  che horata sa se wzeli w ryce :)pyk i nali ideqta e da e dostypen do 
  all userst.e. do prohovdashtite i naprednalitespored mene slackware e 
  perfektnata distribuciqrazni mandrake, corel, redhat... tnt sa mnogo 
  userfriendly spored mene i ne sym siguren che shte imamegolqm 
  uspehdebian-a pyk ne e za wseki ...po tochno toj e za 
  naprednalitea slackware-a e nqkyde posredata spored mene 
  :)On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Boyan Krosnov wrote: Date: Tue, 
  17 Apr 2001 14:35:16 +0300 From: Boyan Krosnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: RE: lug-bg: BG-Linux Spored men rabotata po 
  poddyrjaneto na edna distribuciq e poweche ot kolkoto moje cqloto 
  bylgarsko linux obshteswo da si pozwoli. Po-skoro realistichno e da se 
  misli za klon na nqkoq dobre poddyrjana, free distribuciq sys dobyr 
  package management (chetete Debian). BR, -- 
  Boyan Krosnov (http://www.nat.bg/~bkrosnov) 
  Network Administrator Lirex BG Ltd.  -Original 
  Message-  From: Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:14 
  PM  To: Linux Users Group - Bulgaria  Subject: lug-bg: 
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  mnogo ot was sa se zamislqli za linux distro na BG  wivdam che 
  mnogo hora prewevdat towa..onowa  no mislite li che obshtestwoto 
  shte se zaribi poweche ako ima  BG-Linux kojto da ne e prewevdan 
  linux a prosto distro napraweno  ot nishtoto  
   zqpah edin site i ako nqkoj se interesuwa:   http://www.andamooka.org/reader.pl?section=lfs 
   Linux From Scratch   w towa knivle pishe kak da 
  si naprawim distro ot 0  (from scratch)   
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