Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-27 Thread Ivan Petrov

gcc rulez
;-)

- Original Message - 
From: Svetoslav Nikolov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix


 Probvah Kylix-a.
 
 Pusnah go na Mandrake 7.2 s GLIBC 2.1.3.
 Raboti dobre. Izglejda tochno kato v Windows.
 Chovek moje da si napishe prilojenie za niakolko
 minuti. Ezikat e Pascal (s malko razshirenie).
 
 Dotuk svurshvat hubavite strani. 
 Malko mu e baven interfeisa. Ne raboti s GLIBC 2.2,
 ili pone ne iska da se instalira na Mandrake 8.0.
 Poslednoto oznachava che ako Borland ne reshat
 da go poddurjat, chovek ne moje da kompilira za
 po-novite distribucii. Alternativi na Delphi-to
 niama, t.e. ne moje prosto da go napishesh na
 edin komputar i da go prekompilirash na drug.
 
 Kato cialo si zaslujva da se probva, no ako Borland
 v skoro vreme ne stegnat v krusta Kylix shte prokopsa
 kolkoto Corel Linux. 
 
 PS: osven VI ima i NEdit. 
 
 On Thursday 26 July 2001 12:28, you wrote:
  gvim si e naj-dobyr, ama pusto Windows programistite pishtqt i ne
  iskat da doblizhat Linux, che ne bil friendly. Vse ne mi ostava vreme
  da naucha emacs.
 
  Imashe edno interview s edin ot vodeshtite programisti na KDevelop.
  Pitat go kakyv redaktor izpolzva i toj vika: Ami vi. Ima li i drugi?
 
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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-27 Thread Valery Dachev

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, George Danchev wrote:

  * puskam si go sys ./startkylix:
  Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
 tozi error nai-veroqtno ozna4awa 4e 'ldconfig' ne moje da nameri shared
 libraries .

Towa e specifichna Borland-ska greshka. T.e. problemyt e runtime pri
kompiliran weche kod. T.e. towa ne e Linux-ski problem, a problem na
interpretatora, na kompiliraniq kod ili kakto go predpochitate.

  Ako si s nqkoi ot poslednite -current ili 8.0 mai nqma da go podkarash .
 Kazvat 4e glibc trqbwa da e 2.1.3 .

Otnowo - towa ne eGLIBC problem. Greshkata inache shteshe da e neshto ot
roda na, che ne move da nameri nqkoi shared libraries.

 Ima edni toolz : rpm2tgz  i rpm2targz , eventualno s tqh da opitash da
 preconvertirash .rpm-ite do .tgz ili .tar.gz  i posle da procedirash s
 standartnite za Slack installpkg i t.n. *pkg , ama pak nqma garnaciq.
 P.S. oste edin primer 4e da instalirash na Slack  ot .rpm si e muka , prosto
 nestata ne se slagat kudeto trqbva .

Ne, te prawqt nqkakwa osobena instalaciq. T.e. instalaciqta ne im se
ogranichawa samo do rpm -i kylix_*. Te tam ne znam kak go instalirat,
kakwo prawqt, no predi RPM si izbirat direktorijka, w koqto da se instalira
i sled instalaciqta otnowo puskat nqkakwi scripts. Pishe, che towa e
standarten install shield razraboten ot Loki, a ne ot tqh.

. . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev
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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-27 Thread Rumen Krasstev

Kylix trygva na absolutno wsichki distribucii, prosto triabva malko poveche
chetene osven towa mandrake i redhat sa nai-oblagodetelstvani ot Borland
shto se kasae do Kylix, probvai da go pusnesh na Debian da vidish kon bob iade li :-)))
No i pod 7.2 i pod 8 sam go puskal ima patchove v saita na borland za wsiaka 
distribucia i versia
koito opravia imenno problema s glibc-to (za debian wse oshte niama i triabva rychno 
crachno da se praviat :((

26.7.2001 ã. 15:25:55, Svetoslav Nikolov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Probvah Kylix-a.

Pusnah go na Mandrake 7.2 s GLIBC 2.1.3.
Raboti dobre. Izglejda tochno kato v Windows.
Chovek moje da si napishe prilojenie za niakolko
minuti. Ezikat e Pascal (s malko razshirenie).

Dotuk svurshvat hubavite strani. 
Malko mu e baven interfeisa. Ne raboti s GLIBC 2.2,
ili pone ne iska da se instalira na Mandrake 8.0.
Poslednoto oznachava che ako Borland ne reshat
da go poddurjat, chovek ne moje da kompilira za
po-novite distribucii. Alternativi na Delphi-to
niama, t.e. ne moje prosto da go napishesh na
edin komputar i da go prekompilirash na drug.

Kato cialo si zaslujva da se probva, no ako Borland
v skoro vreme ne stegnat v krusta Kylix shte prokopsa
kolkoto Corel Linux. 

PS: osven VI ima i NEdit. 

On Thursday 26 July 2001 12:28, you wrote:
 gvim si e naj-dobyr, ama pusto Windows programistite pishtqt i ne
 iskat da doblizhat Linux, che ne bil friendly. Vse ne mi ostava vreme
 da naucha emacs.

 Imashe edno interview s edin ot vodeshtite programisti na KDevelop.
 Pitat go kakyv redaktor izpolzva i toj vika: Ami vi. Ima li i drugi?

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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-27 Thread Rumen Krasstev

ako ti se zanimava i imash prilichen net mojesh da go drypnesh
cialoto cd ot http://free.techno-link.com/kylix/download/release/
tam ima i wsichki patchove wkluchitelno i za slack ako ne se lyja...
za syjalenie sam iztril weche arhivite i ne moga da ti kaja koi tochno
rar-ove da si drypnesh i shte triabwa da drypnesh wsichki ala pone shte imash
Kylix Enterprise Edition...

Uspeh :-

Btv skoro shte rekonstruiram saita osnovno i shte uploadna Delphi6 i JBuilder5 taka
che derzaite fenove :-))

...may the source be with you.

27.7.2001 ã. 04:43:17, Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Svetoslav Nikolov wrote:

 Probvah Kylix-a.

Az ne movah.

 Pusnah go na Mandrake 7.2 s GLIBC 2.1.3. Raboti dobre. Izglejda tochno
 kato v Windows. Chovek moje da si napishe prilojenie za niakolko minuti.
 Ezikat e Pascal (s malko razshirenie).

Nqkoj da uspq da podkara Kylix Open Edition na ne-RPM distribuciq ? Az sym
na Slackware, wivdate po koe wreme pisha toq mail. Cqla wecher go mycha :(.
Pyrwo wze da prawi mizerii s moq RPM i reshi, che nqkoi dependancies sa
broken, a ne widqh kyde izpylnqwa rpm komandata, taka che izpolzwah malkiq
trik:

   mv /bin/rpm /bin/rpm.orig
   echo /bin/rpm.orig --nodeps \$*  /bin/rpm
   chmod +x /bin/rpm

Samo deto i towa ne pomogna, zashtoto pri instalaciqta reshi da se oplache,
che mu lipswat fajlowe. Togawa se qdosah, razarhiwirah wseki ot RPM-ite w
edna direktorijka, byziknah 2-3 scripts ot tqh, kolkoto da mi generira
~/.borland i wsichko sqkash trygna (e, sled unset LC_ALL) - izskochiha
edni ekrancheta, registracionni kljuchowe, paranoi, online registration ...
Rezultatyt beshe meko kazano uchudwasht:

   * wednaga sled registraciqta izliza i otsicha:
   Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
   * puskam si go sys ./startkylix:
   Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
   * probwam nanowo registraciqta, bez online registraciq:
   Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
   W toq moment weche bqh izcherpan otkym idei. Pls, help ! ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Kliment Ognianov


Az se zaemam s tejkata zada4a :)
...puk posle 6te vidim :)
Oleg Shishmanov wrote:
Zdravejte!
Ne sum proveril, no spored linux-bg.exco.net e izljazla Desktop
bezplatnata versija na Kylix. Dano njakoj skoro ja iztegli i da spodeli
vpe4atlenija.
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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Svetoslav Nikolov

Interesno dali Netscape-at mi e neshto
kuc, obache ne moga da nameria vruzkata:

ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/kylix/openedition/kylix_oe.tar.gz

Tova e vruzkata koiato se podava na poslednata stupka ot
procedurata za svaliane, i neshto ne raboti.

Svetoslav



 Oleg Shishmanov wrote:
  Zdravejte!
  Ne sum proveril, no spored linux-bg.exco.net e izljazla Desktop
  bezplatnata versija na Kylix. Dano njakoj skoro ja iztegli i da spodeli
  vpe4atlenija.
 
  Oleg

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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Petko Boukov

Vryzkata e syvsem vqrna. Drypnah go taq nosht, instalirah i
registrirah, no ne trygna. Syshtoto beshe i s JBuilder4/5. Izglezhda
ima nesyvmestimosti s glibc versiite. Az sym s 2.2.3, a te
ochakvat po-stara.

Drypnah edna druga interesna razvojna sreda, Netbeans:
www.netbeans.org Izglezhda edno kym edno kato Forte na Sun. Malko e
bavnichka, ponezhe e pisana izcqlo na Java, no obeshtavat da q
zabyrzat i koeto e po-interesno - shte poddyrzhat i drugi ezici.

Sled instalaciqta drypnah dopylnitelnite im moduli, mezhdu koito ima i
takyv za C++. Uspqh da kompiliram neshto kato Hello World, no ne
moga da go izpylnq :))

Petko


 Svetoslav Nikolov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: lug-bg: Izleze 
bezplatnijat KylixDate: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:05:39 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Interesno dali Netscape-at mi e neshto
kuc, obache ne moga da nameria vruzkata:

ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/kylix/openedition/kylix_oe.tar.gz

Tova e vruzkata koiato se podava na poslednata stupka ot
procedurata za svaliane, i neshto ne raboti.




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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread George Danchev

d4x log view : 
Server refused login, perhaps there are too many users of your class

On Thursday 26 July 2001 10:05, you wrote:
 Interesno dali Netscape-at mi e neshto
 kuc, obache ne moga da nameria vruzkata:

 ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/kylix/openedition/kylix_oe.tar.gz

 Tova e vruzkata koiato se podava na poslednata stupka ot
 procedurata za svaliane, i neshto ne raboti.

 Svetoslav
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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Petko Boukov

Oshte neshto se setih... Nikoga ne svalqm s browser-a takiva golemi
file-ove. Pravq s desniq buton na mishkata 'Copy link location' i sled
tova v console-a:

$ wget paste sys sredniq buton

Sorry, deto sam si reply-vam.

Petko



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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread George Danchev

mnogo IDE-ta bre , za voina li se gotvish :)))
On Thursday 26 July 2001 11:34, you wrote:
 Vryzkata e syvsem vqrna. Drypnah go taq nosht, instalirah i
az oste ne moga da se doredq da izteglq bezplatniq Kylix.
A kato stana vupros za natovareni servers , onq den lipsaha nqkoi FTP-ta na 
freebsd , v4era i dnes www.slackware.com go nqma , ko stava , da ne bi da ima 
nqkakva kampaniq Empire strikes back ?!?!?! 
 registrirah, no ne trygna. Syshtoto beshe i s JBuilder4/5. Izglezhda
 ima nesyvmestimosti s glibc versiite. Az sym s 2.2.3, a te
 ochakvat po-stara.

Ne vurvi li  check_script s nego,  koito da check-ne systemata ko ima i ko 
nema ?
i az sujalqwam 4e update-nah do glibc-2.2.3 .


 Drypnah edna druga interesna razvojna sreda, Netbeans:
 www.netbeans.org Izglezhda edno kym edno kato Forte na Sun. Malko e
 bavnichka, ponezhe e pisana izcqlo na Java, no obeshtavat da q
 zabyrzat i koeto e po-interesno - shte poddyrzhat i drugi ezici.

 Sled instalaciqta drypnah dopylnitelnite im moduli, mezhdu koito ima i
 takyv za C++. Uspqh da kompiliram neshto kato Hello World, no ne
 moga da go izpylnq :))

 Petko

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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Svetoslav Nikolov

Sajaliavam za predishnia E-mail.
Prosto v momenta vruzkata im e bavna - zatova
Netscape mi izliza s link not found. 
Edin kolega go iztegli s GetRight. 

Svetoslav



 On Thursday 26 July 2001 10:05, you wrote:
  Interesno dali Netscape-at mi e neshto
  kuc, obache ne moga da nameria vruzkata:
 
  ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/kylix/openedition/kylix_oe.tar.gz
 
  Tova e vruzkata koiato se podava na poslednata stupka ot
  procedurata za svaliane, i neshto ne raboti.
 
  Svetoslav
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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Petko Boukov

gvim si e naj-dobyr, ama pusto Windows programistite pishtqt i ne
iskat da doblizhat Linux, che ne bil friendly. Vse ne mi ostava vreme
da naucha emacs.

Imashe edno interview s edin ot vodeshtite programisti na KDevelop.
Pitat go kakyv redaktor izpolzva i toj vika: Ami vi. Ima li i drugi?

Petko


 George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: lug-bg: Izleze 
bezplatnijat KylixDate: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:12:31 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mnogo IDE-ta bre , za voina li se gotvish :)))




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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Svetoslav Nikolov

Probvah Kylix-a.

Pusnah go na Mandrake 7.2 s GLIBC 2.1.3.
Raboti dobre. Izglejda tochno kato v Windows.
Chovek moje da si napishe prilojenie za niakolko
minuti. Ezikat e Pascal (s malko razshirenie).

Dotuk svurshvat hubavite strani. 
Malko mu e baven interfeisa. Ne raboti s GLIBC 2.2,
ili pone ne iska da se instalira na Mandrake 8.0.
Poslednoto oznachava che ako Borland ne reshat
da go poddurjat, chovek ne moje da kompilira za
po-novite distribucii. Alternativi na Delphi-to
niama, t.e. ne moje prosto da go napishesh na
edin komputar i da go prekompilirash na drug.

Kato cialo si zaslujva da se probva, no ako Borland
v skoro vreme ne stegnat v krusta Kylix shte prokopsa
kolkoto Corel Linux. 

PS: osven VI ima i NEdit. 

On Thursday 26 July 2001 12:28, you wrote:
 gvim si e naj-dobyr, ama pusto Windows programistite pishtqt i ne
 iskat da doblizhat Linux, che ne bil friendly. Vse ne mi ostava vreme
 da naucha emacs.

 Imashe edno interview s edin ot vodeshtite programisti na KDevelop.
 Pitat go kakyv redaktor izpolzva i toj vika: Ami vi. Ima li i drugi?

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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Angel Valkov

On Thursday 26 July 2001 11:34, you wrote:
 Vryzkata e syvsem vqrna. Drypnah go taq nosht, instalirah i
 registrirah, no ne trygna. Syshtoto beshe i s JBuilder4/5. Izglezhda
 ima nesyvmestimosti s glibc versiite. Az sym s 2.2.3, a te
 ochakvat po-stara.
Íà ìåí äîêîëêîòî ìè å èçâåñòíî JBuilder-à ñúùî å íà Java :)
Ïðîáëåìúò å , ÷å Borland ãî ðàçïðîñòðàíÿâàò ñ ëåêî ìîäèôèöèðàíà âåðñèÿ íà 
Sun JDK . Òàêà ,÷å ïîñòàíîâêà ïðè êîÿòî óñïÿâàø äà ãî èíñòàëèðàø è ñëåä òîâà 
íå âúðâè å äîñòà íåâåðîÿòíà. Íÿìà äà ìîæåø âúîáùå äà ãî èíñòàëèðàø.
Åäíî ðåøåíèå íà ïðîáëåìà å äà ñå ïîëçâà îðèãèíàëíèÿ JDK íà Sun - ìàé 1.3.1 å 
íàé-àêòóàëíàòà âåðñèÿ â ìîìåíòà. Ñëåä êîåòî ñòàðòèðàø èíñòàëàòîðà ñ íåùî îò 
ñîðòà: 
./linux_install  LAX_VM /path/to/your/JDK/bin/java.

Èíñòàëàòîðà ùå ñå ïîãðèæè è äà óêàæå ïðàâèëíàòà JavaVM âúâ ôàéëà
/path/to/your/installed/JBuilder/bin/jdk.config.
Ako âñå ïàê íå ãî íàïðàâè ùå òðÿáâà ñàì äà ñè ïðîìåíèøðåäà
javapath /path/to/your/native/jdk/bin/java

è ðåäîâåòå

addpath /home/java/lib/jpda.jar
addpath /home/java/lib/tools.jar

/home/java == /path/to/your/native/jdk
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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread Valery Dachev

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Svetoslav Nikolov wrote:

 Probvah Kylix-a.

Az ne movah.

 Pusnah go na Mandrake 7.2 s GLIBC 2.1.3. Raboti dobre. Izglejda tochno
 kato v Windows. Chovek moje da si napishe prilojenie za niakolko minuti.
 Ezikat e Pascal (s malko razshirenie).

Nqkoj da uspq da podkara Kylix Open Edition na ne-RPM distribuciq ? Az sym
na Slackware, wivdate po koe wreme pisha toq mail. Cqla wecher go mycha :(.
Pyrwo wze da prawi mizerii s moq RPM i reshi, che nqkoi dependancies sa
broken, a ne widqh kyde izpylnqwa rpm komandata, taka che izpolzwah malkiq
trik:

mv /bin/rpm /bin/rpm.orig
echo /bin/rpm.orig --nodeps \$*  /bin/rpm
chmod +x /bin/rpm

Samo deto i towa ne pomogna, zashtoto pri instalaciqta reshi da se oplache,
che mu lipswat fajlowe. Togawa se qdosah, razarhiwirah wseki ot RPM-ite w
edna direktorijka, byziknah 2-3 scripts ot tqh, kolkoto da mi generira
~/.borland i wsichko sqkash trygna (e, sled unset LC_ALL) - izskochiha
edni ekrancheta, registracionni kljuchowe, paranoi, online registration ...
Rezultatyt beshe meko kazano uchudwasht:

* wednaga sled registraciqta izliza i otsicha:
Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
* puskam si go sys ./startkylix:
Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
* probwam nanowo registraciqta, bez online registraciq:
Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
W toq moment weche bqh izcherpan otkym idei. Pls, help ! ;-)

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Re: lug-bg: Izleze bezplatnijat Kylix

2001-07-26 Thread George Danchev

On Friday 27 July 2001 04:43, you wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Svetoslav Nikolov wrote:
  Probvah Kylix-a.

 Az ne movah.

  Pusnah go na Mandrake 7.2 s GLIBC 2.1.3. Raboti dobre. Izglejda tochno
  kato v Windows. Chovek moje da si napishe prilojenie za niakolko minuti.
  Ezikat e Pascal (s malko razshirenie).

 Nqkoj da uspq da podkara Kylix Open Edition na ne-RPM distribuciq ? Az sym
 na Slackware, wivdate po koe wreme pisha toq mail. Cqla wecher go mycha :(.
 Pyrwo wze da prawi mizerii s moq RPM i reshi, che nqkoi dependancies sa
 broken, a ne widqh kyde izpylnqwa rpm komandata, taka che izpolzwah
 malkiq trik:

   mv /bin/rpm /bin/rpm.orig
   echo /bin/rpm.orig --nodeps \$*  /bin/rpm
   chmod +x /bin/rpm

 Samo deto i towa ne pomogna, zashtoto pri instalaciqta reshi da se oplache,
 che mu lipswat fajlowe. Togawa se qdosah, razarhiwirah wseki ot RPM-ite w
 edna direktorijka, byziknah 2-3 scripts ot tqh, kolkoto da mi generira
 ~/.borland i wsichko sqkash trygna (e, sled unset LC_ALL) - izskochiha
 edni ekrancheta, registracionni kljuchowe, paranoi, online registration ...
 Rezultatyt beshe meko kazano uchudwasht:

   * wednaga sled registraciqta izliza i otsicha:
   Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
   * puskam si go sys ./startkylix:
   Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
   * probwam nanowo registraciqta, bez online registraciq:
   Runtime error 230 at 413E2497
   W toq moment weche bqh izcherpan otkym idei. Pls, help ! ;-)

tozi error nai-veroqtno ozna4awa 4e 'ldconfig' ne moje da nameri shared 
libraries .  Ako si s nqkoi ot poslednite -current ili 
8.0 mai nqma da go podkarash . Kazvat 4e glibc trqbwa da e 2.1.3 . 
Ima edni toolz : rpm2tgz  i rpm2targz , eventualno s tqh da opitash da 
preconvertirash .rpm-ite do .tgz ili .tar.gz  i posle da procedirash s 
standartnite za Slack installpkg i t.n. *pkg , ama pak nqma garnaciq. 
P.S. oste edin primer 4e da instalirash na Slack  ot .rpm si e muka , prosto 
nestata ne se slagat kudeto trqbva . 


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