Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-07 Thread Vesselin Kolev




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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-07 Thread
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-05 Thread
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Krasimir Kazakov
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 09:24:01AM +0300, Krasimir Kazakov wrote:
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Krasimir Kazakov
On Friday 04 June 2004 11:45, Peter Pentchev wrote:
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread dgt_it dgt_it


    
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Doncho Angelov
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Vesselin Kolev
dgt_it dgt_it wrote:

   
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VLAN == VPN || VLAN != VPN ?!. :D
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Krasimir Kazakov
On Friday 04 June 2004 16:55,   wrote:

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 05:20:33PM +0300, Krasimir Kazakov wrote:
 On Friday 04 June 2004 16:55,   wrote:
 
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Vesselin Kolev
Vesselin Kolev wrote:
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DEVICE=eth0.280
BOOTPROTO=static
BROADCAST=192.168.111.255
IPADDR=192.168.111.2
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.111.0
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 device will appear as a common ethernet  device  without  
vlans.
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reordered,
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-06-04 Thread Vasil Kolev
 , 2004-06-04  17:20, Krasimir Kazakov :
 On Friday 04 June 2004 16:55,   wrote:
 
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-27 Thread Todor Pirov
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 16:58, Bozhan Bozhkov wrote:

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-27 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Todor Pirov wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 May 2004 16:58, Bozhan Bozhkov wrote:
 
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[OT] vlan tag-ove (was Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading)

2004-05-27 Thread Vasil Kolev
 , 2004-05-27  11:25, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski :

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Re: [OT] vlan tag-ove (was Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading)

2004-05-27 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Vasil Kolev wrote:
  , 2004-05-27  11:25, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski :
 
vlan tag-   .   .  
100
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 switch- vlan-  
remap- ( ,
11-  vlan ID).  
 
2048 Vlan-, .

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Re: [OT] vlan tag-ove (was Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading)

2004-05-27 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
 Vasil Kolev wrote:
 
 , 2004-05-27  11:25, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski :


vlan tag-   .   . 
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-  4096 VLAN-.

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-27 Thread Vesselin Kolev
Todor Pirov wrote:
   70  VLAN,   100.  ?!? 
,   1 VLAN  100.
 

  VLAN- ...(4096).  
, 
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  VLAN,(   
 ,  .)   
  (   802.1q 
   ).

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-26 Thread valio
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Re: Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread emo terziev
òàêà å Æîðî ïîãëåäíàòî îò Ñîôèÿ...
 íî âñå ïàê â ïðîâèíöèÿòà å ìàëêî ïî ðàçëè÷íî
àç ñúùî íå õàðåñâàì åäíî òàêîâà îãðàíè÷åíèå íî ñå
íàëàãà  

ðåøåíèåòî ñ TTL ìèñëÿ ÷å ùå ìè ñâúðøè ðàáîòà 

åìî

--- Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 emo terziev wrote:
 
 Zdravj grupa,
 kak moje da se ustanovi i zabrani maskiraneto v
 edna
 mreja?
   imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men
 niakoj
  maskira ustanovia sas sigurnost
   
 
 Ñëàãàíå íà èçõîäÿùèòå ïàêåòè, êîéòî îòèâàò êúì
 êëèåíòèòå íà TTL 1.
 Îáðàáîòâàíå íà ïàêåòè îò êëèåíòèòå, êîéòî ñà ñ TTL
 ñàìî (2^X)-1  
 (31,63,127...)
 Ôèëòðèðàíå íà èçõîäÿùè ïîðòîâåòå íàä 4 (Linux
 2.4 NAT)
 
 Âñÿêà åäíà îò òåçè ìåðêè ñå ïðåñêà÷à åëåìåíòàðíî.
 Ïðèìåðíî êëèåíòà ñè ïóñêà
 ïðè íåãî SOCKS5 ñúðâúð è èçîáùî íå ïîëçâà NAT :-)
 
 Ïîñëåäíàòà ìÿðêà, êîÿòî âå÷å å ïîäëà å äà îãðàíè÷èø
 áðîÿ íà àêòèâíèòå âðúçêè
 ïðèìåðíî äî äåñåò èëè ïåòíàéñåò.
 
 Ìîÿò ñúâåò å äà ñå çàíèìàâàø ñ ïðîñòîòèè è äà
 ïðèëàãàø íà êëèåíòèòå òè 
 òàêèâà
 ãëóïîñòè.
 


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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread emo terziev
супер    
  не знаех че така може да се
виждат 
това мисля че ще ми е
достатъчно 





--- Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 На пт, 2004-05-21 в 15:43, emo terziev
 записа:
  Zdravj grupa,
  kak moje da se ustanovi i zabrani maskiraneto v
 edna
  mreja?
imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men
 niakoj
   maskira ustanovia sas sigurnost
  
 
 Най-чистия начин да ги
 засичаш, поне за момента, е
 passive OS
 fingerpint, който може да каже
 какви машини има отзаде, и
 разни подобни
 хубави неща, например колко
 време са работили.
 
 Само дето както каза Жоро -
 рязането на хората, които
 маскират, не е
 правилното решение, просто
 защото винаги могат да се
 измъкнат, и не е
 особена магия - един squid
 който анонимизира трафика
 през себе си може
 да бъде (и вероятно ще е)
 тотално неразличим от
 нормален потребител, ако
 не броим повечето трафик,
 който ще се прави.
 
 Проблема ти е в billing-а, не в
 мрежата...
 

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Alexander Shopov
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Vesselin Kolev
emo terziev wrote:
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  TTL   


 

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread emo terziev
zdravej 
sajaliavam za neudobstvoto no ne moga taka lesno da si
smenia postata za sega no za v badeste mojebi kato
izleze gmail.com  ( imam mnogo drugi grupi koito 
mi pishat tam ) 

YahooPoPs ne mi varshi rabota poneje ne sam
stacionarno na edno PC 



Pozdravi 
Emo

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Dean Stoeff
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Nikolay Tenev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread emo terziev
ñòðàííî ïèñìî  
   îñòàíàë ñúì ñ ãðåøíî âïå÷åòëåíèå çà ãðóïàòà
... ìèñëåõ ÷å ñå îáñúæäàò ïðîáëåìè è ñå òúðñÿò ðåøåíèÿ
ñâúðçàíè ãëàâíî ñ Ëèíóêñ , îòâîðåíèÿ êîä è ñâîáîäíèÿ 
ñîôòóåð à íå äà ñå äàâàò ñúâåòè çà òîâà êîé êàê äà ñè
ïðàâè áåçíåñà è äà ñå îáèæäàìå åäèí äðóã... ìîæåáè
ãðåøà ?  
   Àç(à ïðåäïîëàãàì ÷å è ïîâå÷åòî ÷ëåíîâå òóê ) 
  íå îïðåäåëÿò öåíèòå â ìðåæèòå êîèòî ïîääúðæàò è íå
ðàçáèðàì çàùî íàìåñâàø öåíè è öåíîâè ëèñòè ... ßâíî ñè
äîñòà êîìåðñèÿëåí òèï. 
   Êîëêîòî äî óñëóãèòå â Áúëãàðèÿ íå ìèñëÿ ÷å ñà ëîøè
(ìàêàð è ìàëêî ðàçïðîñòðàíèíè èçâúí Ñîôèÿ )... áèë ñúì
è â ìîìåíòà ðàáîòÿ èçâúí Áà òàêà ÷å èìàì íÿêàêâà áàçà
çà ñðàâíåíèå


ìåðñè íà Æîðî ÷å ìå íàñî÷è... íå çíàì 
äîëè ùå ãî èçïîëçâàì èëè ùå îñòàâè êàòî ðàçðàáîòêà
ñàìî  íî ïîíå äîáèõ ïðåäñäòàâà êàê ìîæå äà ñå íàïðàâè

ï.ñ.
  íå ìèñëÿ ÷å ùå ìè å íóæíî äà ñè îïðàâÿì åíêîäèíãà 
... âñå ïî âå÷å èçëèøíè ïèñìà êàòî òâîåòî èìà. Ãóáè ñå
ñìèñúëà äà ñå ÷åòå ãðóïà â êîÿòà ñå íàïàäàò ÷ëåíîâåòå
åäèí äðóã... 

Ïîçäðàâè 
Åìî

  
   

--- Vesselin Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 emo terziev wrote:
 
 òàêà å Æîðî ïîãëåäíàòî îò Ñîôèÿ...
  íî âñå ïàê â ïðîâèíöèÿòà å ìàëêî ïî ðàçëè÷íî
 àç ñúùî íå õàðåñâàì åäíî òàêîâà îãðàíè÷åíèå íî ñå
 íàëàãà  
 
 ðåøåíèåòî ñ TTL ìèñëÿ ÷å ùå ìè ñâúðøè ðàáîòà 
 
 åìî
 
   
 
 
 Àç ïúê ìèñëÿ äà íàïèøà åäíî ðúêîâîäñòâî, êîåòî äà
 ïîêàçâà íà 
 ïîòðåáèòåëèòå êàê äà òè çàîáèêàëÿò ôèëòðèòå. À òîâà
 ðåøåíèå ñ TTL ñúùî 
 ìîæå äà ñå çàîáèêîëè áëàãîäàðåíèå íà TTL ìåíèäæúðà
 íà Õàðúëä Âåëòå 
 íàëè÷åí â patch-o-matic. Ùå ìè å ìíîãî ïðèÿòíî
 òâîèòå ïîòðåáèòåëè äà 
 çàîáèêàëÿò çàùèòàòà òè. Â ìîìåíòà ìàñîâî â ìðåæàòà
 íà HomeLAN 
 ïîòðåáèòåëèòå çàîáèêàëÿò çàùèòàòà íàëîæåíà îò
 îïåðàòîðà èì è ñâúðçâàò ïî 
 2-3 êîìïþòúðà çàä NAT. È ñà ñúâñåì ïðàâè. Ùîì ñè
 ïëàùàò çà êàíàë ñ 
 îïðåäåëåíà ñêîðîñò å âñå åäíî êàê ùå ñè ïîëçâàò
 òðàôèêà. Ïëàòåíèÿò 
 òðàôèê å íà êëèåíòà, à íå íà îïåðàòîðà è îïåðàòîðà
 íÿìà íèêàêâî çàêîíîâî 
 îñíîâàíèå äà îïðåäåëÿ êàê òîçè òðàôèê ùå ñå
 ðàçïðåäåëÿ ñëåä êîìïþòúðà íà 
 êëèåíòà, ñëåä êàòî êëèåíòúò ñè ãî å ïëàòèë. Ïî
 ñúùàòà ëîãèêà ìîæå äà ñå 
 íàëîæàò è îãðàíè÷åíèÿ äà íå ñå îòâÿðÿ åäíà è ñúùà
 ñòðàíèöà îò äâà 
 ïðîçîðåöà íà áðàóçúðà. Ìîæå è äðóãè òúïîòèè äà ñå
 ñú÷èíÿò. Äà íå ãîâîðèì 
 êàêâè ïðîñòîòèè ñúì âèæäàë ïî Âàðíà ïî íÿêúêúâ
 îïåðàòîð mnet ëè m-net ëè 
 è àç çàáðàâèõ. Ôåíîìåíàëíî äåðèáåéñòâî è äèâà
 íåêîìïåòåíòíîñò.
 
 È çàòîâà â Áúëãàðèÿ èíòåðíåò óñëóãèòå ñà íà òàêîâà
 íèâî, çàùîòî íèêîé íå 
 ðàçâèâà óñëóãèòå, à ãëåäà äà ïå÷åëè êàòî ïðåäëàãà
 åäíî è ñúùî íåùî ïîä 
 ðàçëè÷íè èìåíà è ñå ÷óäè êàê ÷ðåç òåõíè÷åñêè ðåøåíèÿ
 äà ñè âäèãíå 
 ïå÷àëáàòà. È íå ìè ñå çàñÿãàéòå ñåãà êàòî
 ïðåñòèñêàíè îñìîêëàñíè÷êè, 
 çàùîòî íàä 80% îò õîðàòà òóê èäâàò äà ïèòàò çà íåùà,
 êîèòî çàñÿãàò ïðÿêî 
 òåõíèÿ áèçíåñ. È ñúùèòå òåçè áèçíåñìåíè íå äàâàò
 åäèí ëåâ êàòî ñå íàëîæè 
 äà ñå íàïðàâè åäíî ìåðîïðèÿòèå ñâúðçàíî ñ îòâîðåíèÿ
 êîä è ñâîáîäíèÿ 
 ñîôòóåð. Íåäàé ñè áîæå ÷îâåê äà ãè ïîìîëè äà
 ïîìîãíàò çà èçãðàæäàíå íà 
 ìðåæàòà íà íÿêîå ó÷åáíî çàâåäåíèå. Âåäíàãà âàäÿò
 öåíîâèòå ëèñòè.
 
 Âñå ïàê êàòî ïðèëàãàø ñåëñêè òàðèêàòëúöè âúðõó
 ïîòðåáèòåëèòå, çàñëóæàâàø 
 ïîòðåáèòåëèòå äà òå ëúæàò è äà ñà íåêîðåêòíè êúì
 òåá. È äà òè êàæà, ÷å 
 òàêèâà êàòî òåá çàâèíàãè â ïðîâèíöèÿòà òðÿáâà äà
 îñòàâàò.
 
 Èñêàø ëè äà êàæà çàùî ñå ïîëçâàò òàêèâà ïîìèÿðñêè
 îãðàíè÷åíèÿ? Òàêèâà 
 ïîìèÿðñêè îãðàíè÷åíèÿ, êàêâèòî èñêàø äà íàëàãàø òè,
 ñå ïîëçâàò 
 ÅÄÈÍÑÒÂÅÍÎ ñ öåë ïî-ãîëÿìà ïå÷àëáà çà äà èìàø ïîâå÷å
 ïîòðåáèòåëè è äà òè 
 ïëàùàò èçìèñëåíàòà ìåñå÷íà òàêñà. È ìèñëÿ, ÷å Ãåîðãè
 òðÿáâà äà òè ïîèñêà 
 ïàðè çà òîçè ñúâåò, çàùîòî òè ùå ãî èçïîëçâàø ñ öåë
 ñîáñòâåíîòî ñè 
 îáëàãîäåòåëñòâàíå è ñ íèùî íÿìà äà äîïðèíåñåø çà
 ðàçâèòèåòî íà Èíòåðíåò 
 èëè íà äàäåíà èíôîðìàöèîííà òåõíîëîãèÿ.
 
 È âçåìè ñè îïðàâè åíêîäèíãà è ñè ðåãèñòðèðàé ïîíå
 åäèí äîìåéí è ñè 
 íàïðàâè ïîùà â íåãî êàòî èñêàø äà ïå÷åëèø ïàðè. Àìàí
 îò ãàáðîâùèíà è 
 áàéãàíüîâùèíà.
 
 Âåñî
 


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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Stanislav Lechev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Martin Lazarov
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[OT] Lozenec (was Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading)

2004-05-25 Thread Vasil Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Bozhan Bozhkov
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emo terziev wrote:
Zdravj grupa,
kak moje da se ustanovi i zabrani maskiraneto v edna
mreja?
 imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men niakoj
maskira ustanovia sas sigurnost
 



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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev

 
   
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Stanislav Lechev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Dimitar Terziev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Marian Marinov

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread emo terziev
mersi 
 da tova go pregledah
  kakto i dostatachno drugi dokumenti.

insteresivahe me strogo tehnologichno kak se pravi
veche mislia che nestata mi se iziasniha. 


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 edna
 mreja?
   imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Romeo Ninov
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-25 Thread Stanislav Lechev

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-22 Thread Delian Krustev
On Friday 21 May 2004 15:43, emo terziev wrote:
 Zdravj grupa,
 kak moje da se ustanovi i zabrani maskiraneto v edna
 mreja?
   imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men niakoj
  maskira ustanovia sas sigurnost

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-21 Thread Martin Lazarov
 Friday 21 May 2004 15:43 emo terziev :
| Zdravj grupa,
| kak moje da se ustanovi i zabrani maskiraneto v edna
| mreja?
|   imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men niakoj
|  maskira ustanovia sas sigurnost
|
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| Pozdravi
| Emo
|

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-21 Thread Alexander Shopov
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-21 Thread Martin Lazarov
 Friday 21 May 2004 16:57 emo terziev :
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-21 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
emo terziev wrote:
   
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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-21 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
emo terziev wrote:
Zdravj grupa,
kak moje da se ustanovi i zabrani maskiraneto v edna
mreja?
 imam malka mrejichka i podoziram che sled men niakoj
maskira ustanovia sas sigurnost
 

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Re: lug-bg: zasichane i zabrana na masquerading

2004-05-21 Thread Marian Popov

Kato za nachalo mojesh da slojish v MANGLE neshto ot sorta na:
-A POSTROUTING -d 192.168.0.44 -j TTL --ttl-set 0

Za obiknovennia potrebitel shte byde trudno da go zaobikoli.


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