[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-11-30 Thread robin

Dear collegues,
Thank you for your interest. For those interested I have attached to
this mail, a pdf of the introduction so you can see what it is all
about.

Best whishes
Robin Rolfhamre




Siterer Luca l...@manassero.net:

Dear Per Kjetil,
   the book looks very promising, but also very expensive! Maybe an
excerpt could help amateurs invest USD 70 + shipping costs...
Thanks,
Luca

On Nov 29, 2010, Per Kjetil Farstad pkfar...@online.no wrote:

  Dear lute list.
  May I recommend this informative book from the Swedish/Norwegian
  lute researcher Robin Rolfhamre:
  French baroque lute music from 1650-1700: A study of the art of
  playing the lute
  You find more infromation on amazonat this adress:
  [1]http://www.amazon.com/French-baroque-lute-music-1650-1700/dp/3639
  308514/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid89893630sr=1-1
  Happy reading!
  Best regards from Per Kjetil Farstad

 References

1.
 http://www.amazon.com/French-baroque-lute-music-1650-1700/dp/3639308514/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid89893630sr=1-1


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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
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   Dear collegues,
   Thank you for your interest. For those interested I have attached to
   this mail, a pdf of the introduction so you can see what it is all
   about.
   Best whishes
   Robin Rolfhamre
   Siterer Luca [1]l...@manassero.net:
   Dear Per Kjetil,
  the book looks very promising, but also very expensive! Maybe
   an
   excerpt could help amateurs invest USD 70 + shipping costs...
   Thanks,
   Luca
   
   On Nov 29, 2010, Per Kjetil Farstad [2]pkfar...@online.no wrote:
   
 Dear lute list.
 May I recommend this informative book from the Swedish/Norwegian
 lute researcher Robin Rolfhamre:
 French baroque lute music from 1650-1700: A study of the art of
 playing the lute
 You find more infromation on amazonat this adress:
   
   [1][3]http://www.amazon.com/French-baroque-lute-music-1650-1700/dp/3639
 308514/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid89893630sr=1-1
 Happy reading!
 Best regards from Per Kjetil Farstad
   
References
   
   1.
   
   [4]http://www.amazon.com/French-baroque-lute-music-1650-1700/dp/3639308
   514/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid89893630sr=1-1
   
   
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[LUTE] Stephen Stubbs

2010-11-30 Thread Ed Durbrow
   Does anyone know Stephen Stubbs' email address?

   TIA

   Ed Durbrow
   Saitama, Japan
   [1]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
   [2]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/

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[LUTE] Re: Stephen Stubbs

2010-11-30 Thread Roman Turovsky

baroqueop...@aol.com
he is also on FBook, but wouldn't condescend to my friending request, for 
some unknown reason.

RT

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To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Stephen Stubbs



  Does anyone know Stephen Stubbs' email address?

  TIA

  Ed Durbrow
  Saitama, Japan
  [1]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
  [2]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/

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[LUTE] Leycester's Commonplace book

2010-11-30 Thread Stewart McCoy
   Dear Rainer,


   Sorry to be slow replying. I have been away in Germany for a few days.


   Perhaps the most frustrating thing about Sir Peter Leycester, is the
   inventory of books in his library - all kinds of musical sources, both
   printed and manuscript, and nearly all of them now lost.


   The so-called Tabley lute book survives, and Robert Spencer had plans
   for Boethius/ Severinus Press to publish it in facsimile. Unfortunately
   Bob died before the project could be completed.


   As far as I know, there are three other surviving sources of interest
   to musicians:


   1) DLT/B 31: Sir Peter Leycester's music book. I have a photocopy of
   this manuscript, which I bought from Chester Archives in 1980. It
   begins with a long history of music stretching back to biblical times,
   together with information about the viol. All this is similar to the
   sort of things in Mary Burwell's lute tutor. There follows a
   considerable amount of music in tablature for the lyra viol, and if I
   remember right, there are nine different tunings.


   2) Manuscript DLT/18: A manuscript written by Sir Peter about music. I
   looked at this manuscript some time in 1980 when I visited the Chester
   Archives, but did not find much of interest. I copied a few items from
   this manuscript in pencil, but I can't guarantee my accuracy, because
   it was such a long time ago. This is what I copied:


   f.9. Josephus de Instrumentis musicis quae David laudandum dominum
   paravit, sic scribit libro septimo antiquitatum Iudaicum ca. 10


   f. 9b. Isaacus Casaubonus in animadversionibus in Athenaeum Dip. Lib 8
   12. Solentmusici et harmonici 15b. Hydraulis instrumentum musicum apud
   Graecos.


   f.16. Hen. Stephanus. Cithara Graece


   f.17. Frigonum refertum esse a Syris inquit Jubas lib 4.


   f.18. De instrumentis musicis quae in usu erant apud Antquos Graecos et
   Romanos. De Cithara. [none of the other instruments is given]


   -o-O-o-


   I must have given up at that point, there being nothing of interest
   specifically about lutes and viols.


   3) DLT/B 33. When I visited the Chester Archives, I spent most of my
   time looking at this manuscript. (The viol book wasn't there.) I copied
   much of it, and my notes began:


   A Booke of miscellany Collections by mee

   P. Leycester.

   Anno Christi, 1656

   Written for the use of my sonne

   Liber. S.


   P. num: g.


   [Tells son how to behave.]

   On money.

   Armories.

   Surnames:

   Esquires Knights Guns

   Of sneezinge.

   Wassaile.

   Cursue.

   Wakes

   Of Homer

   Of the compasse of the earthe

   The measure of a mile

   Measures etc.

   Zodiaque/ Astronomers

   Archimedes.

   Of Musicke

   Of the land of Nod

   Of the Heathen Gods.


   -o-O-o-


   I then copied what Peter Leycester had to say about music, from folio
   72r to 90v. Mercifully he wrote in English. Perhaps of some interest to
   Lutenetters, is what Sir Peter writes about the cittern (fols 84v-85r):


   ffor the little Instrument called a Psittyrne, Anthony Holborne, and
   Tho: Robinson were most famous of any before them: and have both of
   them set out a Booke of Lessons for this Instrument: Holborne hath
   composed a Basse=parte for the viole to play unto the Psitterne with
   those Lessons set out in his booke: these lived about anno Do.^ni.
   1600. This instrument is not so apt for the voyce as the Lute or Viole:
   but yeilds a sweete and gentle sound, w.^ch the name importeth: for 4
   [4 letters in Greek = Psithera?] is a Greeke word,  commeth of [more
   Greek letters], w.^ch signifyes a whisperinge sound: like to which is
   the sound of this Instrument: some write it citharen, but falsely: for
   psithyren,  by contraction Psittyrne: It con=tayneth foure course of
   strings as at this day we use it: each course beinge doubled, havinge
   two stringes of one sound in each course: They are wire stringes:  is
   a [?] played uppon with a little peice of a Quill or Pen, wherewith the
   stringes be touched: It is now us=ually taught by Letters, not by Notes
   of Musicke.


   -o-O-o-


   There is quite a bit more. The easiest thing to do would be for me to
   try scanning my pencilled notes, and send them to you off List. Wayne's
   robot would intercept attachments.


   Best wishes,


   Stewart.






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   Behalf Of adS
   Sent: 23 November 2010 21:24
   To: Lute net
   Subject: [LUTE] Leycester's Commonplace book


   Dear lute netters,


   does anbyody out there know (anything about) the  Commonplace of

   Sir Philip Leycester, dated 1656?


   Rainer adS




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[LUTE] Antonio de Cabezon - Fabordones del quinto tono

2010-11-30 Thread Anton Höger
hi, 

I have uploaded a nice lute duet for 2 lutes ad Quartam.

-Antonio de Cabezon - Fabordones del quinto tono--



Enjoy

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[LUTE] James Tyler

2010-11-30 Thread Nancy Carlin
   I am forwarding a note from Daniel Zuluaga chaconi...@gmail.com about
   plans for a web site in memory on James Tyler.  Also we are planning to
   plublish something about him in the next Quarterly. Jocelyn Nelson is
   the person organizing this and if any of you want to contribute to
   that, you can contact her at
   nels...@ecu.edu
   Nancy

   We are in the process of setting up a memorial website for Jim, which
   may happen in the coming weeks. In the meantime, everyone can send
   their remembrances, anecdotes, contributions and any other notes of
   interest regarding Jim to the following email we set up:
   [1]rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
   This will be the basic email from which we will process all notes to go
   to the memorial website, to be hosted as the USC servers.
   Obituaries are due this week in The Guardian, The Independent, and the
   LA Times.

   Nancy Carlin Associates
   P.O. Box 6499
   Concord, CA 94524  USA
   phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582
   web sites - [2]www.nancycarlinassociates.com
   [3]www.groundsanddivisions.info
   Representing:
   FROM WALES - Crasdant   Carreg Lafar,  FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe  Jez
   Lowe  The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere
   Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths  Morrongiello  Young
   Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
   web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
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[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano - Ness 33

2010-11-30 Thread David Tayler
Snip
  If someone wants to play freely the
beginning is ok, of course, but we have to think a little more about
the music written by Francesco and in general about the writing and the
performance practice of the counterpoint in the first half of the
Sixteenth-century.
Snip

This is the absolute crux of the matter. The twin processes of trying 
to find the urtext combined with guessing the composer's intent 
have created a gigantic problem in renaissance music, which is the 
fabrication of versions which did not exist in 16th century.
There is no correct version; there are versions: there is no 
uniformity, there is only diversity. And it is this rich, detailed, 
brilliant and kaleidoscopic diversity that reflects the 
player-composer culture of the superbly trained musicians of that time.
For some reason, we only want multiple versions when there are no 
doodles. So we, as modernists often reject the plain, unornamented 
versions of music in favor of the ornamented ones. But we still, 
somehow, want the number of versions to be small. We want the right stuff.

But in the renaissance, they wanted a variety of stuff.  They wrote 
in the margins; they composed as they copied, the impressed their own 
personalities on everything.
The greater the player, the more different the copy!  And had they 
done anything else, the would have been regarded as color by number 
instead of Vermeer.

As far as the rules of counterpoint, let's take an example by the 
best composer in the renaissance writing one of his best pieces: 
Mille Regretz of the incomparable Josquin des Prez.
Time after time, the longa in the point of imitation is answered by a 
breve. And why is that? Because it allows the polyphony more than 
twice as many possibilities for the answering counterpoint. It also 
allows the cadences to both elide and evaporate: two essential 
qualities of counterpoint.

When  making a scholarly edition, let's just include a facsimile of 
each and every version, digitally. Total information; no paper 
wasted. Isn't that the best way? What could be better?
Anything less is relegating the alternate versions to the scrap heap 
of history. And in the transcription, it should be possible, clearly 
and easily, with no reference to algebra musik, to reconstruct 
every note and mark of the original source.

So here is the question, should we correct the works of Josquin? 
Because some of those notes are longer in one part.  Maybe add a rest 
at the beginning? And make the perfect urtext?  Or should we go back 
and say, hey, there are a lot of different versions of this piece, 
and you, the unique player-composer can pick the one you like the 
best, and, when making your personal intabulation, you get to add 
some notes and graces of your own. The choice is ours, as players and 
editors. That's the choice they made, as well.


Respectfully,
dt




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[LUTE] Karamazov

2010-11-30 Thread Roman Turovsky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA2TbQrAHBY

RT



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[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano - Ness 33

2010-11-30 Thread demery


 When  making a scholarly edition, let's just include a facsimile of
 each and every version, digitally. Total information; no paper
 wasted. Isn't that the best way? What could be better?
 Anything less is relegating the alternate versions to the scrap heap
 of history. And in the transcription, it should be possible, clearly
 and easily, with no reference to algebra musik, to reconstruct
 every note and mark of the original source.

Ah, but what of unsigned versions which are not identical

The Bernard Hudson edition of the works of Hayne presents some 21 tunes,
14 of which are attributed to Hayne on stylistic grounds.  The remaining
tunes either use Haynes text or are perhaps falsely attributed by
unscrupulous publishers; most of them are easily attributed to other
composers by style (Two in 4vv that sit well on crumhorn may be Binchois).

All of the tunes were 'copied' by contemporary and subsequent composers,
some of them many many times.  This was a high complement in that time,
much as good jazz themes are used today, so were these themes.

Each copy is an opportunity for us to see how polyphony was ornamented. 
All provide challenge in resolving musica ficta.

I am minded of the editions of Ogni Sorte, not only are they presented in
original notation and parts as well as score, but also the editions focus
on specific themes, eg, De tous biens plains, all 28 known versions by all
composers. (See _De tous Biens Plaine_, Cynthia J Cyrus, A-R Editions).

 So here is the question, should we correct the works of Josquin?
 Because some of those notes are longer in one part.  Maybe add a rest
 at the beginning?

I would first look to printed editions such as Odhecaton and see how it
was handled there; but recall that often an incipit maxima rest shows the
mood and may be better considered part of the time signature.  Further,
never forget that printed editions relied heavily on the musical skills of
the compositor(s); persons whose skill was challenged with every piece of
backwards-facing type they placed in the rack.

 And make the perfect urtext?  Or should we go back
 and say, hey, there are a lot of different versions of this piece,
 and you, the unique player-composer can pick the one you like the
 best, and, when making your personal intabulation, you get to add
 some notes and graces of your own. The choice is ours

nay, not choice, but duty, we are expected to show our own art in every
performance.

Analysis is helpful, and so the 'perfect' urtext is welcome, but it should
not be the only inspiration for any performance.

Consider the various versions of baroqued beatles tunes, the PDQ Bach
madrigals (oy-vay!).

--
Dana Emery



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[LUTE] James Tyler on wiki (not yet)

2010-11-30 Thread demery
I note that our james Tyler is not (et0 in wiki, tho two other musical JT
are listed in articles and a disambiguation entry.  I lack sufficient data
to make the initial entry myself, and hope someone involved with the
proposed website would add this to the todo list.
--
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[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano - Ness 33

2010-11-30 Thread David Tayler


Snip
I am minded of the editions of Ogni Sorte, not only are they presented in
original notation and parts as well as score, but also the editions focus
on specific themes, eg, De tous biens plains, all 28 known versions by all
composers. (See _De tous Biens Plaine_, Cynthia J Cyrus, A-R Editions).
Snip

Ogni Sorte are great editions, but they aren't facsimiles. 
Tandernacken is my fave. Venus Bant, Fortuna also great.

Snip
  So here is the question, should we correct the works of Josquin?
  Because some of those notes are longer in one part.  Maybe add a rest
  at the beginning?

I would first look to printed editions such as Odhecaton and see how it
was handled there; but recall that often an incipit maxima rest shows the
mood and may be better considered part of the time signature.  Further,
never forget that printed editions relied heavily on the musical skills of
the compositor(s); persons whose skill was challenged with every piece of
backwards-facing type they placed in the rack.
Snip

I picked a piece, Mille Regretz, that doesn't start on a rest, but is 
emblematic of the thousands of imitative pieces that start on a long 
note and are imitated  further on in the piece by a short note.
Looking at Odhecaton won't help here, at least in any way that I can 
see, but maybe I'm missing your idea here.
No editor would shorten that first note (Mille Regretz). The point 
is, there is no rule, stylistically, contrapuntally, or otherwise to 
regularize imitation on the first note, unless Josquin, Isaac and 
everyone else is writing bad counterpoint.
Reconciling the different sources is a separate matter.
Even the lute and vihuela versions of Mille Regretz start on a long 
note; it is a standard way of starting a piece.

I'm basically saying, Francesco is like Josquin. And, like most 
things, the sources differ.
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[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano - Ness 33

2010-11-30 Thread David Tayler
And don't play you Ogni Sorte on you Liuto Forte!
dt

At 06:25 PM 11/30/2010, you wrote:

If the van Ghizeghem's rockin' don't come Tandernaken!


On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:56 PM, David Tayler wrote:



Snip
I am minded of the editions of Ogni Sorte, not only are they
presented in
original notation and parts as well as score, but also the editions
focus
on specific themes, eg, De tous biens plains, all 28 known versions
by all
composers. (See _De tous Biens Plaine_, Cynthia J Cyrus, A-R
Editions).
Snip

Ogni Sorte are great editions, but they aren't facsimiles.
Tandernacken is my fave. Venus Bant, Fortuna also great.

Snip
So here is the question, should we correct the works of Josquin?
Because some of those notes are longer in one part.  Maybe add a rest
at the beginning?

I would first look to printed editions such as Odhecaton and see how
it
was handled there; but recall that often an incipit maxima rest
shows the
mood and may be better considered part of the time signature.
Further,
never forget that printed editions relied heavily on the musical
skills of
the compositor(s); persons whose skill was challenged with every
piece of
backwards-facing type they placed in the rack.
Snip

I picked a piece, Mille Regretz, that doesn't start on a rest, but is
emblematic of the thousands of imitative pieces that start on a long
note and are imitated  further on in the piece by a short note.
Looking at Odhecaton won't help here, at least in any way that I can
see, but maybe I'm missing your idea here.
No editor would shorten that first note (Mille Regretz). The point
is, there is no rule, stylistically, contrapuntally, or otherwise to
regularize imitation on the first note, unless Josquin, Isaac and
everyone else is writing bad counterpoint.
Reconciling the different sources is a separate matter.
Even the lute and vihuela versions of Mille Regretz start on a long
note; it is a standard way of starting a piece.

I'm basically saying, Francesco is like Josquin. And, like most
things, the sources differ.
dt



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[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano - Ness 33

2010-11-30 Thread David Tayler
It may be that the Scotch is too good.
Hey, I didn't invent the Liuto Forte, but there is one for sale on 
Wayne's list.
dt




The what? the who?

Somebody needs to find you some better scotch.


On Nov 30, 2010, at 6:32 PM, David Tayler wrote:

And don't play you Ogni Sorte on you Liuto Forte!
dt

At 06:25 PM 11/30/2010, you wrote:

If the van Ghizeghem's rockin' don't come Tandernaken!


On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:56 PM, David Tayler wrote:



Snip
I am minded of the editions of Ogni Sorte, not only are they
presented in
original notation and parts as well as score, but also the editions
focus
on specific themes, eg, De tous biens plains, all 28 known versions
by all
composers. (See _De tous Biens Plaine_, Cynthia J Cyrus, A-R
Editions).
Snip

Ogni Sorte are great editions, but they aren't facsimiles.
Tandernacken is my fave. Venus Bant, Fortuna also great.

Snip
So here is the question, should we correct the works of Josquin?
Because some of those notes are longer in one part.  Maybe add a
rest
at the beginning?

I would first look to printed editions such as Odhecaton and see how
it
was handled there; but recall that often an incipit maxima rest
shows the
mood and may be better considered part of the time signature.
Further,
never forget that printed editions relied heavily on the musical
skills of
the compositor(s); persons whose skill was challenged with every
piece of
backwards-facing type they placed in the rack.
Snip

I picked a piece, Mille Regretz, that doesn't start on a rest, but is
emblematic of the thousands of imitative pieces that start on a long
note and are imitated  further on in the piece by a short note.
Looking at Odhecaton won't help here, at least in any way that I can
see, but maybe I'm missing your idea here.
No editor would shorten that first note (Mille Regretz). The point
is, there is no rule, stylistically, contrapuntally, or otherwise to
regularize imitation on the first note, unless Josquin, Isaac and
everyone else is writing bad counterpoint.
Reconciling the different sources is a separate matter.
Even the lute and vihuela versions of Mille Regretz start on a long
note; it is a standard way of starting a piece.

I'm basically saying, Francesco is like Josquin. And, like most
things, the sources differ.
dt



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[LUTE] Re: James Tyler

2010-11-30 Thread Alain

Thanks Nancy,
I was checking the USC WEB site and was puzzled that there was no 
announcement... For those who may not know, Jim founded and developed a 
master's degree in early music performance there in the late 1980's. 
It's hard to tell from the WEB site if had retired or not, (they do have 
a link to a recording of the early music ensemble that seems current and 
seems to have some of his playing in it) but I think a lot of his energy 
in the past 20 years was devoted to this program and his students. It's 
been 22 years now, but I still have a wonderful memory of being invited 
to sit in as a guest student for a year. I hope many of his alumni will 
testify on that site of his goodness, generosity and talent.

Alain

On 11/30/2010 11:56 AM, Nancy Carlin wrote:

I am forwarding a note from Daniel Zuluagachaconi...@gmail.com  about
plans for a web site in memory on James Tyler.  Also we are planning to
plublish something about him in the next Quarterly. Jocelyn Nelson is
the person organizing this and if any of you want to contribute to
that, you can contact her at
nels...@ecu.edu
Nancy

We are in the process of setting up a memorial website for Jim, which
may happen in the coming weeks. In the meantime, everyone can send
their remembrances, anecdotes, contributions and any other notes of
interest regarding Jim to the following email we set up:
[1]rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
This will be the basic email from which we will process all notes to go
to the memorial website, to be hosted as the USC servers.
Obituaries are due this week in The Guardian, The Independent, and the
LA Times.

Nancy Carlin Associates
P.O. Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524  USA
phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582
web sites - [2]www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[3]www.groundsanddivisions.info
Representing:
FROM WALES - Crasdant  Carreg Lafar,  FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe  Jez
Lowe  The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere
Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths  Morrongiello  Young
Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
--

References

1. mailto:rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
2. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
3. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
4. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/


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[LUTE] Re: James Tyler

2010-11-30 Thread David Tayler
James had a long battle with diabetes, so it might be nice to set up 
something where people can contribute in his name.
The Early Music program at USC is now run by Adam Gilbert, he might 
know if there is a memorial planned.

There are some old phtos on LPs and booklets that I remember from the 
70s and 80s, (and  60s, amazingly) if anyone has copies it would be 
nice to digitize them.
There should be photos from his time with the New York Pro Musica, 
the Early Music Consort of London, the Consort of Musicke, and the 
Julian Bream Consort, to name but a few; there must be some BBC 
material as well.
James was at Hartt Conservatory and studied for a while with my 
teacher, Joeseph Iadone, but I don't know much about his career in 
Southern California, except of course that he built up the very 
successful program there.
Sadly, many who would have photos from that time have passed away as 
well. I'm sure Anthony Rooley would have a wealth of material from that time.

dt


Thanks Nancy,
I was checking the USC WEB site and was puzzled that there was no 
announcement... For those who may not know, Jim founded and 
developed a master's degree in early music performance there in the 
late 1980's. It's hard to tell from the WEB site if had retired or 
not, (they do have a link to a recording of the early music ensemble 
that seems current and seems to have some of his playing in it) but 
I think a lot of his energy in the past 20 years was devoted to this 
program and his students. It's been 22 years now, but I still have a 
wonderful memory of being invited to sit in as a guest student for a 
year. I hope many of his alumni will testify on that site of his 
goodness, generosity and talent.
Alain

On 11/30/2010 11:56 AM, Nancy Carlin wrote:
 I am forwarding a note from Daniel Zuluagachaconi...@gmail.com  about
 plans for a web site in memory on James Tyler.  Also we are planning to
 plublish something about him in the next Quarterly. Jocelyn Nelson is
 the person organizing this and if any of you want to contribute to
 that, you can contact her at
 nels...@ecu.edu
 Nancy

 We are in the process of setting up a memorial website for Jim, which
 may happen in the coming weeks. In the meantime, everyone can send
 their remembrances, anecdotes, contributions and any other notes of
 interest regarding Jim to the following email we set up:
 [1]rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
 This will be the basic email from which we will process all notes to go
 to the memorial website, to be hosted as the USC servers.
 Obituaries are due this week in The Guardian, The Independent, and the
 LA Times.

 Nancy Carlin Associates
 P.O. Box 6499
 Concord, CA 94524  USA
 phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582
 web sites - [2]www.nancycarlinassociates.com
 [3]www.groundsanddivisions.info
 Representing:
 FROM WALES - Crasdant  Carreg Lafar,  FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe  Jez
 Lowe  The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere
 Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths  Morrongiello  Young
 Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
 web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
 --

References

 1. mailto:rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
 2. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
 3. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
 4. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/


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[LUTE] Re: James Tyler

2010-11-30 Thread Christopher Stetson
   Hello, list,



   I too was shocked to hear of James Tyler's death.  Though his
   recordings were he a formative influence on me since the 1970's, I had
   never met him, but I recently had a wonderful exchange with him about
   another of his long interests (in his words):



   You expressed surprise at my interest in turn of the century fretted
   instrument music, but that has been a lifelong interest, despite the
   fact that my career has been mainly that of a lutenist. In the 1950s I
   studied classic banjo (gut-strung 5 string), tenor banjo and mandolin
   with Walter Kaye Bauer, who in turn studied with Giuseppe Pettini. So I
   guess you can say I have sort of a direct link to the turn of the
   century. My interests have always been classic ragtime (1890s-1912) and
   American popular and theater music.



   I had contacted him, unbeknownst, through ebay, where we had competed
   for a piece of mandolin and guitar music (he won), and he was kind
   enough to make me a copy.  I was looking forward to a thoroughly
   enjoyable conversation and exchange of music with him, now sadly not to
   be completed.



   I think he would not mind me also sharing this:



   If you want to see a complete contrast to my lute playing activities,
   a friend recently put an old 1979 BBC television clip of me playing a
   1927 novelty tenor banjo piece on Youtube. You might be quite
   amused. [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZgCpx8BN78;



   Like many of you, I will miss my new friend.



   Best to all, and keep playing,

   Chris.

Alain al...@signtracks.com 11/30/2010 10:01 PM 
   Thanks Nancy,
   I was checking the USC WEB site and was puzzled that there was no
   announcement... For those who may not know, Jim founded and developed a
   master's degree in early music performance there in the late 1980's.
   It's hard to tell from the WEB site if had retired or not, (they do
   have
   a link to a recording of the early music ensemble that seems current
   and
   seems to have some of his playing in it) but I think a lot of his
   energy
   in the past 20 years was devoted to this program and his students. It's
   been 22 years now, but I still have a wonderful memory of being invited
   to sit in as a guest student for a year. I hope many of his alumni will
   testify on that site of his goodness, generosity and talent.
   Alain
   On 11/30/2010 11:56 AM, Nancy Carlin wrote:
I am forwarding a note from Daniel Zuluagachaconi...@gmail.com
   about
plans for a web site in memory on James Tyler.  Also we are
   planning to
plublish something about him in the next Quarterly. Jocelyn
   Nelson is
the person organizing this and if any of you want to contribute
   to
that, you can contact her at
nels...@ecu.edu
Nancy
   
We are in the process of setting up a memorial website for Jim,
   which
may happen in the coming weeks. In the meantime, everyone can
   send
their remembrances, anecdotes, contributions and any other notes
   of
interest regarding Jim to the following email we set up:
[1]rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
This will be the basic email from which we will process all notes
   to go
to the memorial website, to be hosted as the USC servers.
Obituaries are due this week in The Guardian, The Independent,
   and the
LA Times.
   
Nancy Carlin Associates
P.O. Box 6499
Concord, CA 94524  USA
phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582
web sites - [2]www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[3]www.groundsanddivisions.info
Representing:
FROM WALES - Crasdant  Carreg Lafar,  FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe
   Jez
Lowe  The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The
   Venere
Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths  Morrongiello  Young
Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA
web site - [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org
--
   
References
   
1. mailto:rememberingjamesty...@gmail.com
2. [2]http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
3. [3]http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
4. [4]http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
   
   
To get on or off this list see list information at
[5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   
   --

References

   1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZgCpx8BN78
   2. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
   3. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
   4. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute