[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread Sean Smith 

I received a nice gig from the effect. 

Sean


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, howard posner  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:40 PM, John Mardinly  wrote:
>> 
>> So is there any chance that this will result in archlute themed backpacks, 
>> pencil cases, blankets, pillows or other Disney themed merchandise?
> 
> It’s been 11 years (!) since Sting tackled (as it were) Dowland in Songs from 
> the Labyrinth.  Some of us were speculating about a potential “Sting effect” 
> raising the lute’s profile in the world.  
> 
> Did anyone notice one?
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread Tristan von Neumann 

Sting raised at least my interest in the Lute.
Mainly because of Karamazov, but still.
It also led to "Singer-Songwriter Time Travels",
a series of concerts where contemporary singer-songwriters
were covering old Lute songs or similar Early Music.
This worked surprisingly well.



Am 07.09.2017 um 23:26 schrieb G. C.:

Harsh words, I liked Sting's effort. Karamazow also made a fine input.
On the whole, lute-propagating I think.
G.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:18 PM, LSA Lute Rental Program
<[1]lsaluteren...@gmail.com> wrote:

 no effect noticed.Perhaps that is because Sting did neither
  Dowland
 nor the lute any service?Not an "artist" I would have chosen
  to sing
 Dowland...or anything else for that matter.




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[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread howard posner 
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Ron Andrico  wrote:
> 
>  I have noticed an increase in the profile of lute music
>   generally and Dowland's music in particular since Sting released his
>   recording.  Of course, we run in different circles than most cloistered
>   lute fanciers, since we perform and not exclusively to early music
>   audiences.
> 
>   When Sting's CD was more current and visible (audible?), there was
>   quite a bit of chatter out in the music world about his Dowland
>   effort.  We observed that his stalwart fans mostly thought the lute
>   diversion was tiresome, and early music nerds thought Sting was
>   tiresome.
> 
>   Personally, I thought Sting did the lute world a great service in
>   raising the profile of the instrument and the music, however briefly.

I’m not sure if you’re describing a continuing profile increase (in which I’m 
curious what specifically you’ve observed) or a brief “Sting Blip”.




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[LUTE] Re: In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in German

2017-09-07 Thread Arthur Ness 
   There also are two copies of the Durr Festschrift on sale at
   abebooks.de for 13 and 15 Euros.

   Arthur Ness
   arthurjn...@verizon.net

   -Original Message-
   From: Arthur Ness 
   To: luca ; lute ;
   stephan.olbertz 
   Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 4:30 pm
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic
   articles in German
   Dear Luca,
   It would be easier, as far as I know, to locate the actual books in an
   Italian library.  I don't know where you live. Use the KarlsruheKVK,
   and Italy in the third column.  You can access the Italian Union
   Catalogue of "all" books and serials (periodicals) in Italian
   libraries.
   [1]http://services.bibliothek.kit.edu/kvk_en.html ;
   Under Italy use "Union Cat. serials" for Musikforschung.  At bottom
   click on "All libraries" and you'll get a list of some 20-30 Italian
   libraries that have the periodical.   You could also use JSTOR if your
   library subscribes.  STOR also leads you to a digital copy of the
   periodical article on Die Musikforschung.
   []^[DEL: :DEL]
   As for the Durr Festschrift under Italy use "Union Cat." author: Rehm
   and title: Festschrift Durr and you'll see many libraries in Italy with
   the book.
   And if these libaries are not close to you, inquire to receive the
   book/article on Inter-Library Loan as Stephan suggests.
   Arthur Ness
   [2]arthurjn...@verizon.net
   -Original Message-
   From: Luca Manassero <[3]l...@manassero.net>
   To: lute <[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 1:44 pm
   Subject: [LUTE] In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in
   German
   Dear Lute list,
   since one year now I'm a student again (Conservatorio of Pavia, Italy -
   Master in Lute and Theorbo) and am collecting together some literature
   for my potential thesis work.
   Since a few weeks I'm trying to have access to three very interesting
   contributions printed in different German academic journals.
   These are:
   Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Wer intavolierte Johann Sebastian Bachs
   Lautenkompositionen?" Berichte und Kleine Beiträge. - Musikforschung
   (Baerenreiter), 19 1 Jan-Mar 1966 pp. 32-39
   Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Ein unbekannter Brief von Silvius Leopold
   Weiss." Berichte und Kleine Beiträge. Musikforschung (Baerenreiter)
   21 2 Apr-Jun 1968 pp. 203-204
   Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "'Monsieur Schouster' - ein vergessener
   Zeitgenosse Johann Sebastian Bachs." in "Bachiana et alia musicologica.
   Festschrift Alfred Dürr zum 65. Geburtstag" edited by Wolfgang Rehm,
   1983, pp. 243-250 Kassel, Baerenreiter
   I tried to reach these contributions through the Digital Library of the
   German Universities, but not having any account on it (nor any chance
   to
   get one) I was simply locked out.
   There is an extensive documentation in German at this URL:
   [5]https://www.hfm-weimar.de/fileadmin/Musikwissenschaft/Musikwissensch
   aft/Onlinerecherche_MuWi.pdf
   If anybody out there has access to these three articles in PDF format;
   I'd be REALLY enormously grateful if s/he could share a copy with me.
   Thank you,
   Luca
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   3. mailto:l...@manassero.net
   4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. 
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   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread G. C. 
   Harsh words, I liked Sting's effort. Karamazow also made a fine input.
   On the whole, lute-propagating I think.
   G.

   On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:18 PM, LSA Lute Rental Program
   <[1]lsaluteren...@gmail.com> wrote:

no effect noticed.Perhaps that is because Sting did neither
 Dowland
nor the lute any service?Not an "artist" I would have chosen
 to sing
Dowland...or anything else for that matter.
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:04 PM Edward Martin
 <[1][2]edvihuel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
 Actually, I cannot recall that I have seen a raising profile
  since the
 "Sting Effect".
 ed
 On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, howard posner
 <[1][2][3]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
   > On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:40 PM, John Mardinly
   <[2][3][4]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote:
   >
   > So is there any chance that this will result in archlute
  themed
   backpacks, pencil cases, blankets, pillows or other Disney
  themed
   merchandise?
   It's been 11 years (!) since Sting tackled (as it were)
 Dowland
  in
   Songs from the Labyrinth. Some of us were speculating
 about
  a
   potential "Sting effect" raising the lute's profile in the
  world.
   Did anyone notice one?
   To get on or off this list see list information at
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 edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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   6. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com
   7. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu
   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   9. mailto:edvihuel...@gmail.com
  10. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com
  11. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu
  12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  13. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com
  14. mailto:john.mardi...@asu.edu
  15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread LSA Lute Rental Program 
   no effect noticed.   Perhaps that is because Sting did neither Dowland
   nor the lute any service?   Not an "artist" I would have chosen to sing
   Dowland...or anything else for that matter.

   On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:04 PM Edward Martin <[1]edvihuel...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

Actually, I cannot recall that I have seen a raising profile
 since the
"Sting Effect".
ed
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, howard posner
<[1][2]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
  > On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:40 PM, John Mardinly
  <[2][3]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote:
  >
  > So is there any chance that this will result in archlute
 themed
  backpacks, pencil cases, blankets, pillows or other Disney
 themed
  merchandise?
  It's been 11 years (!) since Sting tackled (as it were) Dowland
 in
  Songs from the Labyrinth.Some of us were speculating about
 a
  potential "Sting effect" raising the lute's profile in the
 world.
  Did anyone notice one?
  To get on or off this list see list information at
  [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread Edward Martin 
   Actually, I cannot recall that I have seen a raising profile since the
   "Sting Effect".
   ed

   On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, howard posner
   <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

 > On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:40 PM, John Mardinly
 <[2]john.mardi...@asu.edu> wrote:
 >
 > So is there any chance that this will result in archlute themed
 backpacks, pencil cases, blankets, pillows or other Disney themed
 merchandise?
 It's been 11 years (!) since Sting tackled (as it were) Dowland in
 Songs from the Labyrinth.   Some of us were speculating about a
 potential "Sting effect" raising the lute's profile in the world.
 Did anyone notice one?
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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[LUTE] "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

2017-09-07 Thread howard posner 

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:40 PM, John Mardinly  wrote:
> 
> So is there any chance that this will result in archlute themed backpacks, 
> pencil cases, blankets, pillows or other Disney themed merchandise?

It’s been 11 years (!) since Sting tackled (as it were) Dowland in Songs from 
the Labyrinth.  Some of us were speculating about a potential “Sting effect” 
raising the lute’s profile in the world.  

Did anyone notice one?



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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread John Mardinly 
So is there any chance that this will result in archlute themed backpacks, 
pencil cases, blankets, pillows or other Disney themed merchandise?

A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
Classical Guitarist/Lutenist

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 6:40 AM, spiffys84121  
> wrote:
> 
>   In July I was asked by Disney to appear in an episode of the show Andi
>   Mack. They needed a lute player for a big Ren  Faire scene. I
>   wascontracted to play the Gianoncelli Bergamesca on camera. It was
>   great fun and I used a 15 course archlute. I was in two scenes. Tge
>   episode will air in the fall.
> 
>   Sterling
> 
>   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
>    Original message 
>   From: Alain Veylit 
>   Date: 9/6/17 8:51 PM (GMT-07:00)
>   To: lutelist Net 
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall
> 
>   Pride and Prejudice 2005 - luteless, but the ball scenes and costumes
>   were well-researched. I once played with a gambist whose instrument had
>   been made for one of the Errol Flynn movies.
>   On 09/06/2017 07:16 PM, Edward C. Yong wrote:
>>Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind:
>>1) The 1994 film Nostradamus. It had a scene of a country
>   theatre, and
>>the music accompanying was Susato, with an onstage band of
>   instruments
>>(unfortunately including a metal flute). Soundtrack also included
>>Josquin, etc.
>>2) The TV series The Borgias had plenty of Renaissance music,
>   even if
>>most of it was about 100 years too late, but that's better than
>   most
>>productions anyway. I was asked to do a bit of musical detective
>   work
>>and the findings are here:
>> 
>   
> [1]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.3pp.website_2013_02_the-2Dborgias-2Dmusical-2Dbackground.html=DwIBAg=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E=jq6JRTS8WZo-q437CPpHZAkbjewVOrmvuFfDJQBwqzw=3tHAx40Szw-CBgYJdY7r98wq4paKAdDNM0kb75pnWC8=
>  
>>3) The 1995 film Restoration. Lots of Purcell, even if much was
>>arranged for modern orchestra.
>>4) The 1994 film The Madness of King George. Lots of Haendel,
>   mostly
>>arranged for modern orchestra.
>> 
>>On 6 September 2017 at 23:41, Rainer
>   <[2]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>  A bit late (after 2.5 years) :) - I seem to have missed it in
>   2015.
>>  I wonder if the serial really was such a success.
>>  I have watched (in German) all 6 episodes on the German/French
>>  [sic!] TV channel Arte recently.
>>  Apparently at least 50% of the population suffered from
>   depression
>>  in those days.
>>  How Cromwell survived 6 episodes without committing suicide is
>   an
>>  enigma.
>>  Rainer
>>  PS
>>  This reminds me of "Shakespeare in Love" which I recently
>   watched a
>>  second time on German TV - with very mixed feelings :)
>>  Of course there are many weird ideas. The queen would never
>   enter a
>>  public theatre.
>>  Question to the English members: Do most (Many?) people
>   understand
>>  those "hidden" jokes?
>>  I really liked the scene with Webster.
>>   On 22.01.2015 00:39, WALSH STUART wrote:
>> 
>>  (first episode of much-hyped TV series in UK)
>>  I was expecting an immediate response...
>>  So anyway, here goes: music begins with Ah Robin (not sung -
>   and
>>  probably played on a lute?)...melds into Glassy instrumental
>   stuff.
>>  A tremolando mandoline churns out all the plucked expressive
>   work,
>>  although lutes figure in the mise-en-scene from time to time.
>>  Mark Rylance is a very curious being.
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>> 
>>1.
>   
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>  
>>2. mailto:rads.bera_g...@t-online.de
>>3. 
>>

[LUTE] Re: In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in German

2017-09-07 Thread Arthur Ness 
   Dear Luca,
   It would be easier, as far as I know, to locate the actual books in an
   Italian library.  I don't know where you live. Use the KarlsruheKVK,
   and Italy in the third column.  You can access the Italian Union
   Catalogue of "all" books and serials (periodicals) in Italian
   libraries.
   http://services.bibliothek.kit.edu/kvk_en.html
   Under Italy use "Union Cat. serials" for Musikforschung.  At bottom
   click on "All libraries" and you'll get a list of some 20-30 Italian
   libraries that have the periodical.   You could also use JSTOR if your
   library subscribes.  STOR also leads you to a digital copy of the
   periodical article on Die Musikforschung.
   []^[DEL: :DEL]
   As for the Durr Festschrift under Italy use "Union Cat." author: Rehm
   and title: Festschrift Durr and you'll see many libraries in Italy with
   the book.
   And if these libaries are not close to you, inquire to receive the
   book/article on Inter-Library Loan as Stephan suggests.
   Arthur Ness
   arthurjn...@verizon.net
   -Original Message-
   From: Luca Manassero 
   To: lute 
   Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 1:44 pm
   Subject: [LUTE] In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in
   German
   Dear Lute list,
   since one year now I'm a student again (Conservatorio of Pavia, Italy -
   Master in Lute and Theorbo) and am collecting together some literature
   for my potential thesis work.
   Since a few weeks I'm trying to have access to three very interesting
   contributions printed in different German academic journals.
   These are:
   Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Wer intavolierte Johann Sebastian Bachs
   Lautenkompositionen?" Berichte und Kleine Beiträge. - Musikforschung
   (Baerenreiter), 19 1 Jan-Mar 1966 pp. 32-39
   Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Ein unbekannter Brief von Silvius Leopold
   Weiss." Berichte und Kleine Beiträge. Musikforschung (Baerenreiter)
   21 2 Apr-Jun 1968 pp. 203-204
   Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "'Monsieur Schouster' - ein vergessener
   Zeitgenosse Johann Sebastian Bachs." in "Bachiana et alia musicologica.
   Festschrift Alfred Dürr zum 65. Geburtstag" edited by Wolfgang Rehm,
   1983, pp. 243-250 Kassel, Baerenreiter
   I tried to reach these contributions through the Digital Library of the
   German Universities, but not having any account on it (nor any chance
   to
   get one) I was simply locked out.
   There is an extensive documentation in German at this URL:
   [1]https://www.hfm-weimar.de/fileadmin/Musikwissenschaft/Musikwissensch
   aft/Onlinerecherche_MuWi.pdf
   If anybody out there has access to these three articles in PDF format;
   I'd be REALLY enormously grateful if s/he could share a copy with me.
   Thank you,
   Luca
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[LUTE] Re: In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in German

2017-09-07 Thread Stephan Olbertz 
Have you tried to speak with your university library? Getting books via
interlibrary loan or articles in paper or electronic format shouldn't be a
problem today, even in Italy...

Best wishes
Stephan

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Luca Manassero
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. September 2017 19:43
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in
German

Dear Lute list,

since one year now I'm a student again (Conservatorio of Pavia, Italy -
Master in Lute and Theorbo) and am collecting together some literature for
my potential thesis work.

Since a few weeks I'm trying to have access to three very interesting
contributions printed in different German academic journals.

These are:

Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Wer intavolierte Johann Sebastian Bachs
Lautenkompositionen?" Berichte und Kleine Beiträge. - Musikforschung
(Baerenreiter),191Jan-Mar 1966pp. 32-39

Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Ein unbekannter Brief von Silvius Leopold
Weiss." Berichte und Kleine Beiträge.Musikforschung (Baerenreiter)
 212Apr-Jun 1968pp. 203-204

Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "'Monsieur Schouster' - ein vergessener Zeitgenosse
Johann Sebastian Bachs." in "Bachiana et alia musicologica.
Festschrift Alfred Dürr zum 65. Geburtstag" edited by Wolfgang Rehm, 1983,
pp. 243-250 Kassel, Baerenreiter

I tried to reach these contributions through the Digital Library of the
German Universities, but not having any account on it (nor any chance to get
one) I was simply locked out.

There is an extensive documentation in German at this URL:
https://www.hfm-weimar.de/fileadmin/Musikwissenschaft/Musikwissenschaft/Onli
nerecherche_MuWi.pdf


If anybody out there has access to these three articles in PDF format; I'd
be REALLY enormously grateful if s/he could share a copy with me.

Thank you,

Luca
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[LUTE] In search of some Bach / Weiss old academic articles in German

2017-09-07 Thread Luca Manassero 
Dear Lute list,

since one year now I'm a student again (Conservatorio of Pavia, Italy -
Master in Lute and Theorbo) and am collecting together some literature
for my potential thesis work.

Since a few weeks I'm trying to have access to three very interesting
contributions printed in different German academic journals.

These are:

Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Wer intavolierte Johann Sebastian Bachs
Lautenkompositionen?" Berichte und Kleine Beiträge. - Musikforschung
(Baerenreiter),191Jan-Mar 1966pp. 32-39

Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "Ein unbekannter Brief von Silvius Leopold
Weiss." Berichte und Kleine Beiträge.Musikforschung (Baerenreiter)
 212Apr-Jun 1968pp. 203-204

Schulze, Hans-Joachim, "'Monsieur Schouster' - ein vergessener
Zeitgenosse Johann Sebastian Bachs." in "Bachiana et alia musicologica.
Festschrift Alfred Dürr zum 65. Geburtstag" edited by Wolfgang Rehm,
1983, pp. 243-250 Kassel, Baerenreiter

I tried to reach these contributions through the Digital Library of the
German Universities, but not having any account on it (nor any chance to
get one) I was simply locked out.

There is an extensive documentation in German at this URL:
https://www.hfm-weimar.de/fileadmin/Musikwissenschaft/Musikwissenschaft/Onlinerecherche_MuWi.pdf


If anybody out there has access to these three articles in PDF format;
I'd be REALLY enormously grateful if s/he could share a copy with me.

Thank you,

Luca
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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread Alain Veylit 

Sometimes, in the hand of a master, a little anachronism helps -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkJZOxqB-qk




On 09/06/2017 11:11 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:

I should add a comment to my previous remarks.  We have seen several
other period productions aired by BBC and their affiliates where the
attention to detail is remarkable.  This is particularly true in
Victorian era productions where parlor music is featured with singers
using a natural voice are accompanied by (sometimes barely tuned)
period pianos.  The result convincing.  But when directors have a
choice between getting the costumes right down to the wrinkles and tiny
buttons or using authentic music, we know which choice they'll make.

RA
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

   >Movies mess up the music and/or historical facts nearly all the
   time...
   I wonder why that is?  - on behalf of Tristan von Neumann
   In my experience, film directors and, more specifically, the large
   herds of their minions are always, always, always more concerned
with
   images, dialogue, actions, and sounds that they think will sell to
the
   average viewer.   In Hollywoodland, so-called authenticity comes
across
   as nothing more than pedantic, which is OK for a 15 second clip now
and
   again.  And it's just a plain fact that music directors have very
   little interest in any music they did not discover for themselves.
   That's why you hear Mozart in Tudor film dramatizations, and
screaming
   power chords setting the tone for Louis XIV.
   Besides, it's common knowledge that in order to get your music into
   film, you have to be very well connected.  It rarely matters whether
   the music is appropriate - or even good.
   RA
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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread Tristan von Neumann 

Congrats. This should result in a Lute frenzy. :)


Am 07.09.2017 um 15:40 schrieb spiffys84121:

In July I was asked by Disney to appear in an episode of the show Andi
Mack. They needed a lute player for a big Ren  Faire scene. I
wascontracted to play the Gianoncelli Bergamesca on camera. It was
great fun and I used a 15 course archlute. I was in two scenes. Tge
episode will air in the fall.

Sterling






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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread spiffys84121 
   In July I was asked by Disney to appear in an episode of the show Andi
   Mack. They needed a lute player for a big Ren  Faire scene. I
   wascontracted to play the Gianoncelli Bergamesca on camera. It was
   great fun and I used a 15 course archlute. I was in two scenes. Tge
   episode will air in the fall.

   Sterling

   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

    Original message 
   From: Alain Veylit 
   Date: 9/6/17 8:51 PM (GMT-07:00)
   To: lutelist Net 
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

   Pride and Prejudice 2005 - luteless, but the ball scenes and costumes
   were well-researched. I once played with a gambist whose instrument had
   been made for one of the Errol Flynn movies.
   On 09/06/2017 07:16 PM, Edward C. Yong wrote:
   > Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind:
   > 1) The 1994 film Nostradamus. It had a scene of a country
   theatre, and
   > the music accompanying was Susato, with an onstage band of
   instruments
   > (unfortunately including a metal flute). Soundtrack also included
   > Josquin, etc.
   > 2) The TV series The Borgias had plenty of Renaissance music,
   even if
   > most of it was about 100 years too late, but that's better than
   most
   > productions anyway. I was asked to do a bit of musical detective
   work
   > and the findings are here:
   >
   [1]http://www.3pp.website/2013/02/the-borgias-musical-background.html
   > 3) The 1995 film Restoration. Lots of Purcell, even if much was
   > arranged for modern orchestra.
   > 4) The 1994 film The Madness of King George. Lots of Haendel,
   mostly
   > arranged for modern orchestra.
   >
   > On 6 September 2017 at 23:41, Rainer
   <[2]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
   > wrote:
   >
   >   A bit late (after 2.5 years) :) - I seem to have missed it in
   2015.
   >   I wonder if the serial really was such a success.
   >   I have watched (in German) all 6 episodes on the German/French
   >   [sic!] TV channel Arte recently.
   >   Apparently at least 50% of the population suffered from
   depression
   >   in those days.
   >   How Cromwell survived 6 episodes without committing suicide is
   an
   >   enigma.
   >   Rainer
   >   PS
   >   This reminds me of "Shakespeare in Love" which I recently
   watched a
   >   second time on German TV - with very mixed feelings :)
   >   Of course there are many weird ideas. The queen would never
   enter a
   >   public theatre.
   >   Question to the English members: Do most (Many?) people
   understand
   >   those "hidden" jokes?
   >   I really liked the scene with Webster.
   >On 22.01.2015 00:39, WALSH STUART wrote:
   >
   >   (first episode of much-hyped TV series in UK)
   >   I was expecting an immediate response...
   >   So anyway, here goes: music begins with Ah Robin (not sung -
   and
   >   probably played on a lute?)...melds into Glassy instrumental
   stuff.
   >   A tremolando mandoline churns out all the plucked expressive
   work,
   >   although lutes figure in the mise-en-scene from time to time.
   >   Mark Rylance is a very curious being.
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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread Ido Shdaimah 
   On Sep 6, 2017 19:24, "Tristan von Neumann"
   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

 Hello Ido,
 this might be of interest to you:
 [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M
 [3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-rejaoP7U
 Cheers!
 Tristan

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   Thanks! Reminds me of Scots pronunciation.
   Speaking of it, one of the most annoying thing that happens with Burns'
   poems for example is people pronouncing them using southern accents
   which ruins the rhymes, the puns, the general sound and character of
   the poem. A good example is Burns rhyming 'Agley' with 'Joy' in the
   famous stanza from to a mouse.
   "...  The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men
 Gang aft agley,
   An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
 For promis'd joy!"
   Where Joy is pronounced more like 'Jey'
   and 'Pain' more like 'Pen', yet most still
   pronounce it in the southern standard
   thus ruining the wonderful rhythm.
   The same things can happen with early modern english as well, thus OP
   is important. And that's just a phonemic argument, you also need to
   preserve the language or dialect phonetically as to not ruin the
   natural 'flow' to it (Scottish rolling R is a good example, forgoing it
   just messes up the whole 'quality' of the tongue in my opinion).

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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 
I think the music for the DEvils was all arranged by Peter Maxwell 
DAvies - so may not have been "historically" informed.

Original Message
From: sfar...@gmail.com
Date: 06/09/2017 19:44 
To: "Rainer"
Cc: 
Subj: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

I've always rather liked this scene from Ken Russell's The Devils.
   [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcNkzs8bn0
   Aside from the fictional elements, any thoughts as to authenticity 
of
   performance?

   On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Rainer <[2]RadS.BERA_GmbH@t-online.
de>
   wrote:

 On 06.09.2017 20:54, Sean Smith wrote:

 I think it's safe to say we pay attention to details of movies 
when
 they overlap our areas of specific interest.

 Good point.
 Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder)
 mathematics appears in a movie it is normally plain nonsense.
 Of course, this doesn't matter for non-mathematicians (or
 physicists).
 Rainer
 OF course, I am a mathematician :)

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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

2017-09-07 Thread mathias.roe...@t-online.de 
   How about "Vatel" with UmaThurman and Gerard Depardieu? Okay, the plot
   takes place in Louis XIV's days and the major part of the music is by
   Rameau, but hey, it's well done!
   Mathias
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   Pride and Prejudice 2005 - luteless, but the ball scenes and costumes
   were well-researched. I once played with a gambist whose instrument had
   been made for one of the Errol Flynn movies.
   On 09/06/2017 07:16 PM, Edward C. Yong wrote:
   > Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind:
   > 1) The 1994 film Nostradamus. It had a scene of a country theatre,
   and
   > the music accompanying was Susato, with an onstage band of
   instruments
   > (unfortunately including a metal flute). Soundtrack also included
   > Josquin, etc.
   > 2) The TV series The Borgias had plenty of Renaissance music, even if
   > most of it was about 100 years too late, but that's better than most
   > productions anyway. I was asked to do a bit of musical detective work
   > and the findings are here:
   >
   [1]http://www.3pp.website/2013/02/[2]the-borgias-musical-background.htm
   l
   > 3) The 1995 film Restoration. Lots of Purcell, even if much was
   > arranged for modern orchestra.
   > 4) The 1994 film The Madness of King George. Lots of Haendel, mostly
   > arranged for modern orchestra.
   >
   > On 6 September 2017 at 23:41, Rainer
   <[2]RadS.BERA_GmbH@[3]t-online.de>;
   > wrote:
   >
   > A bit late (after 2.5 years) :) - I seem to have missed it in 2015.
   > I wonder if the serial really was such a success.
   > I have watched (in German) all 6 episodes on the German/French
   > [sic!] TV channel Arte recently.
   > Apparently at least 50% of the population suffered from depression
   > in those days.
   > How Cromwell survived 6 episodes without committing suicide is an
   > enigma.
   > Rainer
   > PS
   > This reminds me of "Shakespeare in Love" which I recently watched a
   > second time on German TV - with very mixed feelings :)
   > Of course there are many weird ideas. The queen would never enter a
   > public theatre.
   > Question to the English members: Do most (Many?) people understand
   > those "hidden" jokes?
   > I really liked the scene with Webster.
   > On 22.01.2015 00:39, WALSH STUART wrote:
   >
   > (first episode of much-hyped TV series in UK)
   > I was expecting an immediate response...
   > So anyway, here goes: music begins with Ah Robin (not sung - and
   > probably played on a lute?)...melds into Glassy instrumental stuff.
   > A tremolando mandoline churns out all the plucked expressive work,
   > although lutes figure in the mise-en-scene from time to time.
   > Mark Rylance is a very curious being.
   > ---
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