[LUTE] Re: An Application which allows Single track recording and recognises an external mic?
I use Rode, with a Tascam stereo mic. With excellent results. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On Dec 16, 2019, at 5:31 AM, Anthony Hind > wrote: > > Dear Luthenists > > I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the > presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the > lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single > track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack > complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. > > I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it > hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright > on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite > apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good > candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that > is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual > recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can > recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully > such an App, please let me know on or off list. > > Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. > > Regards > > Anthony > -- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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I thought originally they were only for trebles, but on the Aquila site, wheras previously Mimmo suggested using Venice twines for Meanes as they are very supple, he now suggests unsplit gut for Meanes as well. He explains that the gut strings made out of strips show more impedance to harmonics than those made out of a single piece of unsplit gut. I hope I will hear the difference, although perhaps I should have my ears tested to cheque at my age, I can still hear such higher harmonics... Best Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:57 PM, Martyn Hodgson a écrit : I'll very much look forward to your findings about the new unsplit gut strings - I presume they're for trebles mainly... rgds Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 13:49:57 GMT, Anthony Hind wrote: Yes I see what you mean, Martyn. It would be difficult to do that with a machine that's not dedicated entirely to recording. There is I suppose a limit to the openness of omnipurpose devices. Thanks for that thought. The reason I am looking for a solution right now is that I ordered the new unsplit gut strings from Mimmo. I was hoping to record a few pieces with my lute as it is at present with split gut strings, and then record the same pieces with the new split gut. I am not entirely sure the recording device would be good enough to discriminate such a difference, but I do know audible memory is generally very poor, and can easily be biased. As I hope the new strings will be better, I probably would hear them as such, unless a side by side recording tells me clearly otherwise. Of course there is also the problem that strings take a few months to run in, so I'd have to record the same pieces over a few months. Well that is the idea but from my experience in experimental phonetics, I know this will never be entirely objective. Best Anthony [2]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:08 PM, Martyn Hodgson a écrit : Take your point Anthony, With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly easily cut out large bits I don't want when I download onto Audacity (or whatever you prefer) regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind <[3]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Martyn I was doing something similar to your suggestion by connecting my condenser mic through focusrite directly to my Mac and using Amadeus which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my playing position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or Tape on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while playing. I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus. I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality of this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often unfortunately). But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn, Regards Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[1][4]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit : Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [2][2][5]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind <[3][6]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good
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I'll very much look forward to your findings about the new unsplit gut strings - I presume they're for trebles mainly... rgds Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 13:49:57 GMT, Anthony Hind wrote: Yes I see what you mean, Martyn. It would be difficult to do that with a machine that's not dedicated entirely to recording. There is I suppose a limit to the openness of omnipurpose devices. Thanks for that thought. The reason I am looking for a solution right now is that I ordered the new unsplit gut strings from Mimmo. I was hoping to record a few pieces with my lute as it is at present with split gut strings, and then record the same pieces with the new split gut. I am not entirely sure the recording device would be good enough to discriminate such a difference, but I do know audible memory is generally very poor, and can easily be biased. As I hope the new strings will be better, I probably would hear them as such, unless a side by side recording tells me clearly otherwise. Of course there is also the problem that strings take a few months to run in, so I'd have to record the same pieces over a few months. Well that is the idea but from my experience in experimental phonetics, I know this will never be entirely objective. Best Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:08 PM, Martyn Hodgson a écrit : Take your point Anthony, With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly easily cut out large bits I don't want when I download onto Audacity (or whatever you prefer) regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind <[2]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Martyn I was doing something similar to your suggestion by connecting my condenser mic through focusrite directly to my Mac and using Amadeus which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my playing position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or Tape on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while playing. I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus. I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality of this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often unfortunately). But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn, Regards Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[1][3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit : Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [2][2][4]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind <[3][5]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App, please let me know on or off list. Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. Regards Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
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I meant « the same pieces with the new unsplit gut. » [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:49 PM, Anthony Hind a écrit : Yes I see what you mean, Martyn. It would be difficult to do that with a machine that's not dedicated entirely to recording. There is I suppose a limit to the openness of omnipurpose devices. Thanks for that thought. The reason I am looking for a solution right now is that I ordered the new unsplit gut strings from Mimmo. I was hoping to record a few pieces with my lute as it is at present with split gut strings, and then record the same pieces with the new split gut. I am not entirely sure the recording device would be good enough to discriminate such a difference, but I do know audible memory is generally very poor, and can easily be biased. As I hope the new strings will be better, I probably would hear them as such, unless a side by side recording tells me clearly otherwise. Of course there is also the problem that strings take a few months to run in, so I'd have to record the same pieces over a few months. Well that is the idea but from my experience in experimental phonetics, I know this will never be entirely objective. Best Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 2:08 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[2]hodgsonmar...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> a à ©crit : Take your point Anthony, With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly easily cut out large bits I don't want when I download onto Audacity (or whatever you prefer) regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind <[2][3]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Martyn I was doing something similar to your suggestion by connecting my condenser mic through focusrite directly to my Mac and using Amadeus which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my playing position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or Tape on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while playing. I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus. I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality of this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often unfortunately). But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn, Regards Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[1][3][4]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit : Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [2][2][4][5]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind <[3][5][6]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App,
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Yes I see what you mean, Martyn. It would be difficult to do that with a machine that's not dedicated entirely to recording. There is I suppose a limit to the openness of omnipurpose devices. Thanks for that thought. The reason I am looking for a solution right now is that I ordered the new unsplit gut strings from Mimmo. I was hoping to record a few pieces with my lute as it is at present with split gut strings, and then record the same pieces with the new split gut. I am not entirely sure the recording device would be good enough to discriminate such a difference, but I do know audible memory is generally very poor, and can easily be biased. As I hope the new strings will be better, I probably would hear them as such, unless a side by side recording tells me clearly otherwise. Of course there is also the problem that strings take a few months to run in, so I'd have to record the same pieces over a few months. Well that is the idea but from my experience in experimental phonetics, I know this will never be entirely objective. Best Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 2:08 PM, Martyn Hodgson a écrit : Take your point Anthony, With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly easily cut out large bits I don't want when I download onto Audacity (or whatever you prefer) regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind <[2]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Martyn I was doing something similar to your suggestion by connecting my condenser mic through focusrite directly to my Mac and using Amadeus which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my playing position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or Tape on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while playing. I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus. I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality of this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often unfortunately). But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn, Regards Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[1][3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit : Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [2][2][4]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind <[3][5]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App, please let me know on or off list. Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. Regards Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [5][7]https://yho.com/footer0 2. [6][8]https://www.audacityteam.org/ 3. [7][9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1.
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Take your point Anthony, With my little Zoom H2 it allows over 6 hours recording time - so I simply put it on and then forget about it knowing I can fairly easily cut out large bits I don't want when I download onto Audacity (or whatever you prefer) regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 12:59:35 GMT, Anthony Hind wrote: Dear Martyn I was doing something similar to your suggestion by connecting my condenser mic through focusrite directly to my Mac and using Amadeus which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my playing position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or Tape on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while playing. I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus. I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality of this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often unfortunately). But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn, Regards Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, dà ©cembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit : Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [2][2]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind <[3]agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App, please let me know on or off list. Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. Regards Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [5]https://yho.com/footer0 2. [6]https://www.audacityteam.org/ 3. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 2. https://www.audacityteam.org/ 3. mailto:agno3ph...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. https://yho.com/footer0 6. https://www.audacityteam.org/ 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Dear Martyn I was doing something similar to your suggestion by connecting my condenser mic through focusrite directly to my Mac and using Amadeus which I prefer to Audacity; but this meant getting up from my playing position to start and stop recordings etc. I found using FiRe or Tape on my iPad more convenient as I could control everything while playing. I did then download to my Mac and Amadeus. I realize you can do that very well from a Zoom, and perhaps I will acquire one if I cannot replace FiRe; but I found the sound quality of this setup with condenser mic, focusrite, FiRe and IPad/iphone good enough for evaluating progress, or the lack of it (more often unfortunately). But I will keep your suggestion in mind, thanks Martyn, Regards Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le lundi, décembre 16, 2019, 12:26 PM, Martyn Hodgson a écrit : Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [2]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App, please let me know on or off list. Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. Regards Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://yho.com/footer0 2. https://www.audacityteam.org/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: An Application which allows Single track recording and recognises an external mic?
Dear Anthony, You might find it helpful to download your recording onto a PC or tablet (from whatever recording device - I use a Zoom H2) and then use software like Audacity to produce a recording as you would wish it ie without ridiculously excessive 'sound engineering' with, as you say, things like the added resonances of GarageBand. [1]https://www.audacityteam.org/ And no, I'm not on commision! regards Martyn On Monday, 16 December 2019, 10:32:09 GMT, Anthony Hind wrote: Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App, please let me know on or off list. Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. Regards Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.audacityteam.org/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] An Application which allows Single track recording and recognises an external mic?
Dear Luthenists I am looking for a very simple app which will recognise the presence of a mic and preamp such as Focusrite connected to the lightning connector of my iPad or iPhone, but which will make a single track mono recording of my lute without the unnecessary multitrack complexities and added resonances of GarageBand. I used to use the excellent app FiRe, but it no longer works, as it hasn't been updated; I then used Tape by focusrite which worked alright on my iPad, but now has become temperamental. Impact by focusrite apparently works well but only for audiovideo. Rode Rec Le looks a good candidate but apparently it only works with a Rode mic (at least that is what they claim). I use the excellent Voice Recorder Pro for casual recording with the internal mics on my iPhone, but I don't think it can recognise an external mic. If anyone has found and uses successfully such an App, please let me know on or off list. Thank you for your help, it will be much appreciated. Regards Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
