Dear Stewart
Have a look on my CD-book on the von Erlach Lute Book:
[1]https://accordsnouveaux.ch/en/the-von-erlach-lute-book
and scroll down to the index. You will see there some colours and then
read my introduction.
It's just your topic: Lute books of the first half of the 17th century
are of course very important sources for popular melodies which
sometimes survive only in lute books. "Lute pieces" are often âonly"
song settings adapted for the lute - but made in the specific
lutenistic style. And the so called âtimbres" have very often texts of
very different character: as a Noël (Christmas carol), as a drinking
song, as a political pamphlet song and so on.
A lute book which includes such song arrangements tells much more than
a ânormal" source - but very often, we as players of the 21st century
don't recognise the melodies which were common for nearly all listeners
in the 17th century - with all their textual implications.
A nice example from Ballard 1612-B is track 29 of the context-CD.
Andreas
Am 03.02.2020 um 00:48 schrieb Stewart McCoy
<[2]lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>:
Many thanks, Andreas. I've downloaded the two appendices, which are a
mine of information, and which will keep me busy for some time.
Good luck with your talk to the Lute Society.
Best wishes,
Stewart.
-Original Message- From: Andreas Schlegel
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 10:53 AM
To: Stewart McCoy
Cc: lute list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612
There's an important article on that topic by Franà �ois-Pierre Goy:
LA PRATIQUE DE LA PARODIE SPIRITUELLE DANS UN MONASTÃËRE TROYEN AU
XVIIe
SIÃËCLE les ï � � Cantiques spirituels faits à la Visitassion Ste
Marie ï � �
(F-T Ms. 1686)
The book can be ordered here:
[1][3]http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_
musi
cologie.html
Scroll to the third book.
There are links to the two annexes which include some Airs with
parodies by Berthod.
On next Saturday I will speak at the Lute Society Meeting and play
from
the von Erlach lute book. The topic of the ââ¬Å¾travel" of melodies is
one
important part of my mini-recital at 11:30.
[2][4]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings
I hope to see you there!
Andreas
Am 02.02.2020 um 00:37 schrieb Stewart McCoy
<[5]lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>:
Thanks, Rainer. Much appreciated.
There are some other interesting books to be found at the same
library.
If
you click on "Rechercher" and do a search for "luth", you'll find more
tablature with a copy of Piccinini. There is also an interesting
looking collection of songs by Chancy. Most intriguing are three song
collections
(in one volume) by Franà �ois Berthod, who flourished in the 1650s. He
took
songs by well-known French composers, and replaced their words with a
spiritual text. There is a brief Wiki article about him. On the title
page of his books there is a left-handed lute-player with a six-string
(single courses) lute. All the songs are for two voices - treble and
bass - with both parts texted. There are no figures for the bass part,
yet a chordal accompaniment on a lute or theorbo should nevertheless
be
possible.
I would be interested to know what the songs are, to which Berthod set
his spiritual text. There is no way of knowing from Berthod's
collection, and although the library mentions composers like Bacilly
and Le Camus, they don't seem to say who wrote which songs, and what
the original words were.
Best wishes,
Stewart.
-Original Message- From: Rainer
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:09 PM
To: Lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Ballard 1612
[6]https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446
Click under "Tà �là �charger"
Rainer
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References
1.
[9]http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musi
cologie.html
2. [10]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings
Andreas Schlegel
Eckstr. 6
CH-5737 Menziken
Festnetz +41 (0)62 771 47 07
Mobile +41 (0)78 646 87 63
[11]i...@lutecorner.ch
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References
1. https://accordsnouveaux.ch/en/the-von-erlach-lute-book
2. mailto:lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
3. http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musi
4. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings
5. mailto:lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
6. https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446
7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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