Dear Stewart Have a look on my CD-book on the von Erlach Lute Book:
[1]https://accordsnouveaux.ch/en/the-von-erlach-lute-book and scroll down to the index. You will see there some colours and then read my introduction. It's just your topic: Lute books of the first half of the 17th century are of course very important sources for popular melodies which sometimes survive only in lute books. "Lute pieces" are often âonly" song settings adapted for the lute - but made in the specific lutenistic style. And the so called âtimbres" have very often texts of very different character: as a Noël (Christmas carol), as a drinking song, as a political pamphlet song and so on. A lute book which includes such song arrangements tells much more than a ânormal" source - but very often, we as players of the 21st century don't recognise the melodies which were common for nearly all listeners in the 17th century - with all their textual implications. A nice example from Ballard 1612-B is track 29 of the context-CD. Andreas Am 03.02.2020 um 00:48 schrieb Stewart McCoy <[2]lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>: Many thanks, Andreas. I've downloaded the two appendices, which are a mine of information, and which will keep me busy for some time. Good luck with your talk to the Lute Society. Best wishes, Stewart. -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Schlegel Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 10:53 AM To: Stewart McCoy Cc: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612 There's an important article on that topic by Franà �ois-Pierre Goy: LA PRATIQUE DE LA PARODIE SPIRITUELLE DANS UN MONASTÃËRE TROYEN AU XVIIe SIÃËCLE les ï � � Cantiques spirituels faits à la Visitassion Ste Marie ï � � (F-T Ms. 1686) The book can be ordered here: [1][3]http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_ musi cologie.html Scroll to the third book. There are links to the two annexes which include some Airs with parodies by Berthod. On next Saturday I will speak at the Lute Society Meeting and play from the von Erlach lute book. The topic of the ââ¬Å¾travel" of melodies is one important part of my mini-recital at 11:30. [2][4]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings I hope to see you there! Andreas Am 02.02.2020 um 00:37 schrieb Stewart McCoy <[5]lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu>: Thanks, Rainer. Much appreciated. There are some other interesting books to be found at the same library. If you click on "Rechercher" and do a search for "luth", you'll find more tablature with a copy of Piccinini. There is also an interesting looking collection of songs by Chancy. Most intriguing are three song collections (in one volume) by Franà �ois Berthod, who flourished in the 1650s. He took songs by well-known French composers, and replaced their words with a spiritual text. There is a brief Wiki article about him. On the title page of his books there is a left-handed lute-player with a six-string (single courses) lute. All the songs are for two voices - treble and bass - with both parts texted. There are no figures for the bass part, yet a chordal accompaniment on a lute or theorbo should nevertheless be possible. I would be interested to know what the songs are, to which Berthod set his spiritual text. There is no way of knowing from Berthod's collection, and although the library mentions composers like Bacilly and Le Camus, they don't seem to say who wrote which songs, and what the original words were. Best wishes, Stewart. -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:09 PM To: Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Ballard 1612 [6]https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446 Click under "Tà �là �charger" Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken Festnetz +41 (0)62 771 47 07 Mobile +41 (0)78 646 87 63 [8]i...@lutecorner.ch -- References 1. [9]http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musi cologie.html 2. [10]https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken Festnetz +41 (0)62 771 47 07 Mobile +41 (0)78 646 87 63 [11]i...@lutecorner.ch -- References 1. https://accordsnouveaux.ch/en/the-von-erlach-lute-book 2. mailto:lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musi 4. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings 5. mailto:lu...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu 6. https://mazarinum.bibliotheque-mazarine.fr/ark:/61562/mz3446 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. mailto:i...@lutecorner.ch 9. http://societe-champenoise-de-musicologie.org/Cahiers_remois_de_musicologie.html 10. https://www.lutesociety.org/pages/meetings 11. mailto:i...@lutecorner.ch
