[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread howard posner
I bought my first lute from Kelischek 30 years ago.  It was a decent, playable 
entry-level instrument.  I can't speak for what they're selling now, but it's 
hard to imagine they're peddling junk.

On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Ron Fletcher ron.fletc...@ntlworld.com wrote:

   I have just come across this page and hope it may be of interest to new
   US players
 
 
   [1]http://www.susato.com/konakart/SelectCat.do?catId58prodsFound=6cat
   egory=Lutes%2C+Ouds
 
 
   Just for info.  I have no connection or other interest.



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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread jslute
   Dear All
These appear to be the same low-price Zachary Taylor lutes being sold
   on other websites. So the question is really whether anybody out there
   has played one of these. Also, as they're available on various
   websites, what is the best price?
   Cheers,
   Jim Stimson



   On 10/02/12, Ron Fletcherron.fletc...@ntlworld.com wrote:

   I have just come across this page and hope it may be of interest to new
   US players
   [1][1]http://www.susato.com/konakart/SelectCat.do?catId58prodsFound=6;
   cat
   egory=Lutes%2C+Ouds
   Just for info. I have no connection or other interest.
   Best Wishes
   Ron (UK)
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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread Bernd Haegemann
 A priority is to ensure that they will be ‘playable’ and suitable 
for the performance of the repertoire composed for the instrument.


It always bothers me when someone puts quotes around an important term 
like playable.



It shouldn't bother us, it is simply a symptom of what we trick cyclists 
call axionchresthaiphilia - the urge to put the most important words in 
quotes.
The owner of a very good fish restaurant in my neighbourhood always has 
it on his menu blackboard:


 Fresh mackerel a la plancha with homegrown garden vegetables

It is impossible to convince him.

The same with a bicycle dealer

Let us fix your bicycle before the summer holidays.

:-)

B









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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread Martin Shepherd
suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the 
instrument.

Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?

Best to all from sunny Burgundy,

Martin



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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Winheld
I could use a bottle of Sunny Burgundy right now. Suitable for 
consumption, of course. Unlike anything from Pyramid- either the 
'brewpub' here in Berkeley or those sitar strings anywhere.


Martin- Congrats on the move- don't get sunstroke in the vineyard. Wish 
we were there!


Dan


On 10/2/2012 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote:
suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the 
instrument.

Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?

Best to all from sunny Burgundy,

Martin



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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread wayne cripps

Mel Wong has reviewed a certain Paki lute .. and he made some inexpensive lutes 
himself.

http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/2011/11/14/attention-cheapskates-paki-bashers-hoi-polloi/


  Wayne

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Michael O'Rourke morco...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
 Date: October 2, 2012 3:18:37 PM EDT
 To: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 
   I think a builder in San Francisco was importing lutes from the Make
   Superior Music Company in China. The instruments were in the $600.00
   range and from what I have heard very good for the price. Mel Wong,
   yes, now I remember, Mel Wong imported them.
 
   On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd
   [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
 
   suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the
   instrument.
 
 Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?
 
 Best to all from sunny Burgundy,
 Martin
 
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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread wayne cripps

Mel has a lot of articles about inexpensive lutes in his archives on his web 
page,
they are worth reading.

  Wayne

Begin forwarded message:

 From: wayne cripps wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
 Date: October 2, 2012 4:54:17 PM EDT
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 
 
 Mel Wong has reviewed a certain Paki lute .. and he made some inexpensive 
 lutes himself.
 
 http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/2011/11/14/attention-cheapskates-paki-bashers-hoi-polloi/
 
 
  Wayne
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Michael O'Rourke morco...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
 Date: October 2, 2012 3:18:37 PM EDT
 To: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 
  I think a builder in San Francisco was importing lutes from the Make
  Superior Music Company in China. The instruments were in the $600.00
  range and from what I have heard very good for the price. Mel Wong,
  yes, now I remember, Mel Wong imported them.
 
  On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd
  [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
 
  suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the
  instrument.
 
Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?
 
Best to all from sunny Burgundy,
Martin
 
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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread Rob MacKillop
Wayne, the term Paki is regarded as being deeply offensive in the UK...not 
sure about the US or elsewhere. 

Rob

www.robmackillop.net 

On 2 Oct 2012, at 21:54, wayne cripps wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:

 
 Mel Wong has reviewed a certain Paki lute .. and he made some inexpensive 
 lutes himself.
 
 http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/2011/11/14/attention-cheapskates-paki-bashers-hoi-polloi/
 
 
  Wayne
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Michael O'Rourke morco...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
 Date: October 2, 2012 3:18:37 PM EDT
 To: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 
  I think a builder in San Francisco was importing lutes from the Make
  Superior Music Company in China. The instruments were in the $600.00
  range and from what I have heard very good for the price. Mel Wong,
  yes, now I remember, Mel Wong imported them.
 
  On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd
  [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
 
  suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the
  instrument.
 
Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?
 
Best to all from sunny Burgundy,
Martin
 
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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread William Samson
   Rather like the 'n' word in the US.

   Bill
   From: Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com
   To: wayne cripps wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 22:25
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
   Wayne, the term Paki is regarded as being deeply offensive in the
   UK...not sure about the US or elsewhere.
   Rob
   www.robmackillop.net
   On 2 Oct 2012, at 21:54, wayne cripps [1]wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   wrote:
   
Mel Wong has reviewed a certain Paki lute .. and he made some
   inexpensive lutes himself.
   
   
   [2]http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/2011/11/14/attention-cheapskates-
   paki-bashers-hoi-polloi/
   
   
 Wayne
   
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From: Michael O'Rourke [3]morco...@gmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
Date: October 2, 2012 3:18:37 PM EDT
To: Martin Shepherd [4]mar...@luteshop.co.uk
Cc: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   
 I think a builder in San Francisco was importing lutes from the
   Make
 Superior Music Company in China. The instruments were in the
   $600.00
 range and from what I have heard very good for the price. Mel Wong,
 yes, now I remember, Mel Wong imported them.
   
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd
 [1][6]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
   
 suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the
 instrument.
   
   Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?
   
   Best to all from sunny Burgundy,
   Martin
   
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   2. 
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   3. mailto:morco...@gmail.com
   4. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
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   6. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread wayne cripps

Sorry - I didn't know that .. I was quoting what I had just read.

  Wayne

On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wayne, the term Paki is regarded as being deeply offensive in the UK...not 
 sure about the US or elsewhere. 
 
 Rob
 
 www.robmackillop.net 
 
 On 2 Oct 2012, at 21:54, wayne cripps wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:
 
 
 Mel Wong has reviewed a certain Paki lute .. and he made some inexpensive 
 lutes himself.
 
 http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/2011/11/14/attention-cheapskates-paki-bashers-hoi-polloi/
 
 
 Wayne
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Michael O'Rourke morco...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US
 Date: October 2, 2012 3:18:37 PM EDT
 To: Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk
 Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 
 I think a builder in San Francisco was importing lutes from the Make
 Superior Music Company in China. The instruments were in the $600.00
 range and from what I have heard very good for the price. Mel Wong,
 yes, now I remember, Mel Wong imported them.
 
 On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd
 [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
 
 suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the
 instrument.
 
   Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?
 
   Best to all from sunny Burgundy,
   Martin
 
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[LUTE] Re: Reasonably priced lutes in the US

2012-10-02 Thread wayne cripps

Here is the real story ..

http://www.blackbirdstringarts.com/2010/11/22/chinese-made-or-made-in-china/


On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Michael O'Rourke morco...@gmail.com wrote:

   I think a builder in San Francisco was importing lutes from the Make
   Superior Music Company in China. The instruments were in the $600.00
   range and from what I have heard very good for the price. Mel Wong,
   yes, now I remember, Mel Wong imported them.
 
   On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin Shepherd
   [1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
 
   suitable for the performance of the repertoire composed for the
   instrument.
 
 Er... what does that mean?  Pyramid strings?
 
 Best to all from sunny Burgundy,
 Martin
 
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