Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
Quoth Stefan Caunter: 'however, some limiting (wapo, i did not check newyorker) is more sophisticated than this. 'you will reliably be redirected to the front page of the washington post, if you request any url at all and their counter says you've reached your limit.' I browse every day without this experience. Perhaps I don't reach the limit, but I've gone over 20. As we discussed in this forum earlier this year, they block access from User-Agent headers with lynx in them, so I substituted l_y_n_x; you were involved in that discussion, and it happened on every access to me. FWIW, mine is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6 l_y_n_x in case that makes a difference. russell bell ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:35 AM wrote: > > > nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, newyorker.com (and many > others) rely on users' browsers to keep track of the pages they have > accessed so as to limit use. Although lynx keeps cookies, it doesn't > run the script (or whatever it is) that these sites use, thus one can > browse them without limit. > it does appear that nytimes.com is OK with lynx users freely browsing their site (i can surf through dozens of articles from my ip address)... however, some limiting (wapo, i did not check newyorker) is more sophisticated than this. you will reliably be redirected to the front page of the washington post, if you request any url at all and their counter says you've reached your limit. from my ip address, where i have reached my limit, any request to https://www.washingtonpost.com/foo returns this response lynx -head https://www.washingtonpost.com/foo HTTP/1.0 302 Moved Temporarily Server: AkamaiGHost Content-Length: 0 Location: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:07:53 GMT Connection: close __stef ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
On 2018-09-21, at 14:24:20, Halaasz Saandor wrote: > 2018/09/21 11:50 ... Karen Lewellen: >> Why would I want The New Yorker to limit my reading? > > It is not hard for me to imagine that the New Yorker would want to limit it. > They want you to subscribe, either for money or for harvested contact information. -- gil ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
2018/09/21 11:50 ... Karen Lewellen: Why would I want The New Yorker to limit my reading? It is not hard for me to imagine that the New Yorker would want to limit it. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
If I am reading there, it is one of my valuable activities. Otherwise I would be reading elsewhere. On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, russellb...@gmail.com wrote: Quoth Ms Karen Lewellen: 'Why would I want The New Yorker to limit my reading?' To keep it from interfering with your other valuable activities. russell bell ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
Quoth Ms Karen Lewellen: 'Why would I want The New Yorker to limit my reading?' To keep it from interfering with your other valuable activities. russell bell ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
I believe I am missing something? Perhaps others will provided details, but I need a real world example. Why would I want The New Yorker to limit my reading? Lynx can provide browsing history, but I do believe you are referring to something else. Kare On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, russellb...@gmail.com wrote: nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, newyorker.com (and many others) rely on users' browsers to keep track of the pages they have accessed so as to limit use. Although lynx keeps cookies, it doesn't run the script (or whatever it is) that these sites use, thus one can browse them without limit. russell bell ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
One of the advantages of not supporting javascript. On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, russellb...@gmail.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 00:35:16 > From: russellb...@gmail.com > To: lynx-dev@nongnu.org > Subject: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites > > > nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, newyorker.com (and many > others) rely on users' browsers to keep track of the pages they have > accessed so as to limit use. Although lynx keeps cookies, it doesn't > run the script (or whatever it is) that these sites use, thus one can > browse them without limit. > > russell bell > > ___ > Lynx-dev mailing list > Lynx-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev > -- ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
Well Russell-and-All, I certainly from time2time receive e-mails from sites such as Politico, which say I am not reading their news-letters-and-am I still interested? I always write and explain I read them each day. Actually the way they are formatted its easier just launching LYNX to read as an html, otherwise I would see constant urls. Chime ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
On 21/09/18 05:35, russellb...@gmail.com wrote: nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, newyorker.com (and many others) rely on users' browsers to keep track of the pages they have accessed so as to limit use. Although lynx keeps cookies, it doesn't run the script (or whatever it is) that these sites use, thus one can browse them without limit. There are also sites that rely on CSS when presenting teasers prior to payment or your providing your life history. Remember, though, that news sites are not there to provide news. They are there to make money. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
> nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, newyorker.com (and many others) rely > on users' browsers to keep track of the pages they have accessed so > as to limit use. Although lynx keeps cookies, it doesn't run the > script (or whatever it is) that these sites use, thus one can browse > them without limit. And? I'm not sure whether you're citing this as a feature, a bug, or what. Relying on the client to do _anything_ merely because the server asks it to, though, is stupid design. (Unless, I suppose, you don't really much care and are satisfied with "it works in most cases", which may be good enough here.) /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTMLmo...@rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
[Lynx-dev] lynx doesn't track use for most sites
nytimes.com, washingtonpost.com, newyorker.com (and many others) rely on users' browsers to keep track of the pages they have accessed so as to limit use. Although lynx keeps cookies, it doesn't run the script (or whatever it is) that these sites use, thus one can browse them without limit. russell bell ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
