Re: Making Spanish docs less dependent on Babel

2023-10-06 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:45:56PM +0200, Dan wrote:
> Sorry for responding this late. I have been very busy these last two weeks, 
> so I completely disconnected from the mailing lists.

Never a problem. It's important to disconnect! I've actually wanted to try to 
do something like check my LyX messages only once every few days. I just 
haven't been able to commit to it though.

> 1 d’oct. de 2023, 2:54 per skost...@lyx.org:
> 
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > Currently (before your patches), the Spanish documents are set to use 
> > Babel. This might have made sense at the time, but Polyglossia should also 
> > work and it would be nice to allow either Babel or Polyglossia.
> >
> > Do you have interest in helping us to relax the Babel-specific parts of the 
> > Spanish documents? If you have interest, I could take a look and be more 
> > specific with what I'm asking. If you don't have interest, no problem at 
> > all. You've already spent a lot of time improving the documents.
> >
> Currently I am focused on translating manuals and the PO files (almost done 
> with the latter); but those are goals in the long run. I am open and willing 
> to help out in whatever I can: tell me what you need me to do or help with.

Sounds good.

> > You can see past conversation on this topic here:
> >
> >  > 
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid&q=20230208180200.jrjegozjf3ji7lwj%40gary
> >
> As stated in one of the emails 
> (https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg219273.html) Babel 
> does have very good support for Spanish, including mathematical operators 
> (lim, limsup, sin, max, and the like). Thus, I have never used anything other 
> than Babel and completely ignore how well Polyglossia supports Spanish.

Jürgen is actually a developer of Polyglossia. So I think if we try to remove 
the Babel hardcoding and run into problems, he might be able to fix them or at 
least give an idea of what's going on.

> Will give a hand in whatever I can.

Thanks, I'm not sure what the next step is. I guess you or I would just need to 
change the "Always babel" and see what happens.

Scott


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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 01:02:47PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > I am using lyx2.3 and lyx2.4 in parallel installed. The problem will 
> > > arise on
> > > installing lyx2.5 later.
> > > 
> > > Installing without using the suffix should be no problem for you (e.g. no 
> > > change)
> > > My proposal would rename it to "LyX.metainfo.xml".
> > >   
> > 
> > This conflict is, I believe, also present in autoconf builds. The 
> > default there is to build without suffix. If I move to cmake for 
> > openSUSE packages, it's very likely I will continue to build without suffix.
> > 
> > Cor
> > 
> 
> Sure, good for you. But not for my use case.

It's not exactly great idea to ship differently named metainfo files
when using autoconf vs cmake.
Did you have at least investigated the implications of stripping org.lyx.
prefix in the default case?

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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Fri, 6 Oct 2023 12:30:53 +0200
schrieb Cor Blom :

> Op 06-10-2023 om 12:14 schreef Kornel Benko:
> > Am Fri, 06 Oct 2023 10:53:25 +0100
> > schrieb José Matos :
> >   
> >> On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 11:09 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:  
> >>> Should we rename this file on install to be able to install multiple
> >>> lyx-versions?
> >>> Like "org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml" -> "LyX2.4.metainfo.xml"
> >>> if using versioned suffixes?
> >>>
> >>>   Kornel  
> >>
> >> Using my blue hat here (Fedora). :-)
> >>
> >> Although I am not using cmake (yet!) I prefer to have the simple
> >> version. When I need to take care of another version I prefer to do it
> >> myself.
> >>
> >> Looking into the system directory (/usr/share/metainfo/) I do not see
> >> any versioned file.
> >>
> >> My two ¢.  
> > 
> > I am using lyx2.3 and lyx2.4 in parallel installed. The problem will arise 
> > on
> > installing lyx2.5 later.
> > 
> > Installing without using the suffix should be no problem for you (e.g. no 
> > change)
> > My proposal would rename it to "LyX.metainfo.xml".
> >   
> 
> This conflict is, I believe, also present in autoconf builds. The 
> default there is to build without suffix. If I move to cmake for 
> openSUSE packages, it's very likely I will continue to build without suffix.
> 
> Cor
> 

Sure, good for you. But not for my use case.

Kornel


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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread Cor Blom

Op 06-10-2023 om 12:14 schreef Kornel Benko:

Am Fri, 06 Oct 2023 10:53:25 +0100
schrieb José Matos :


On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 11:09 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:

Should we rename this file on install to be able to install multiple
lyx-versions?
Like "org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml" -> "LyX2.4.metainfo.xml"
if using versioned suffixes?

Kornel


Using my blue hat here (Fedora). :-)

Although I am not using cmake (yet!) I prefer to have the simple
version. When I need to take care of another version I prefer to do it
myself.

Looking into the system directory (/usr/share/metainfo/) I do not see
any versioned file.

My two ¢.


I am using lyx2.3 and lyx2.4 in parallel installed. The problem will arise on 
installing
lyx2.5 later.

Installing without using the suffix should be no problem for you (e.g. no 
change)
My proposal would rename it to "LyX.metainfo.xml".



This conflict is, I believe, also present in autoconf builds. The 
default there is to build without suffix. If I move to cmake for 
openSUSE packages, it's very likely I will continue to build without suffix.


Cor

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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Fri, 06 Oct 2023 10:53:25 +0100
schrieb José Matos :

> On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 11:09 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Should we rename this file on install to be able to install multiple
> > lyx-versions?
> > Like "org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml" -> "LyX2.4.metainfo.xml"
> > if using versioned suffixes?
> > 
> > Kornel  
> 
> Using my blue hat here (Fedora). :-)
> 
> Although I am not using cmake (yet!) I prefer to have the simple
> version. When I need to take care of another version I prefer to do it
> myself.
> 
> Looking into the system directory (/usr/share/metainfo/) I do not see
> any versioned file.
> 
> My two ¢.

I am using lyx2.3 and lyx2.4 in parallel installed. The problem will arise on 
installing
lyx2.5 later.

Installing without using the suffix should be no problem for you (e.g. no 
change)
My proposal would rename it to "LyX.metainfo.xml".

Kornel


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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread José Matos
On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 11:09 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Should we rename this file on install to be able to install multiple
> lyx-versions?
> Like "org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml" -> "LyX2.4.metainfo.xml"
> if using versioned suffixes?
> 
>   Kornel

Using my blue hat here (Fedora). :-)

Although I am not using cmake (yet!) I prefer to have the simple
version. When I need to take care of another version I prefer to do it
myself.

Looking into the system directory (/usr/share/metainfo/) I do not see
any versioned file.

My two ¢.
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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Fri, 6 Oct 2023 10:30:14 +0200
schrieb Kornel Benko :

> Am Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:57:08 +0200
> schrieb Cor Blom :
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > autoconf installs org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml automatically, but cmake does 
> > not. Intention, mistake, ...?
> > 
> > This is on openSUSE, building rpms using the buildservice.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Cor
> >   
> 
> Mistake. I was not aware of this file.
> 
>   Kornel

Should we rename this file on install to be able to install multiple 
lyx-versions?
Like "org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml" -> "LyX2.4.metainfo.xml"
if using versioned suffixes?

Kornel


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Re: metainfo and cmake

2023-10-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:57:08 +0200
schrieb Cor Blom :

> Hi,
> 
> autoconf installs org.lyx.LyX.metainfo.xml automatically, but cmake does 
> not. Intention, mistake, ...?
> 
> This is on openSUSE, building rpms using the buildservice.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cor
> 

Mistake. I was not aware of this file.

Kornel


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