Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 12:18:32PM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 5/2/23 11:38, madmurphy wrote:
> > The hereapplies  LaTeX package has
> > stably been part of the CTAN repository for a while now, and a LyX
> > module
> > 
> > is shipped with it. Will it be possible to include the module among the
> > modules installed by LyX?
> 
> I don't see why not. Anyone else have an opinion?

Some thoughts:

1. Thanks for the work on the package and LyX module, madmurphy!

2. I think in the past we usually we ask that modules be put on the LyX wiki 
and marinate a bit. However, I think it might be fine to skip that step if the 
module is developed by the same author as the .sty file. For some reason, that 
gives me more confidence.

3. Another point in favor of including the module is that in 2.4.x the modules 
are organized into categories. I would be more hesitant for 2.3.x to add 
another module to the list that we're not sure there's much demand for. But 
because of the categories I'm not concerned as much about increasing complexity 
of the modules list.

Scott


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Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 5/2/23 11:38, madmurphy wrote:
The hereapplies  LaTeX package has 
stably been part of the CTAN repository for a while now, and a LyX 
module 
 
is shipped with it. Will it be possible to include the module among 
the modules installed by LyX?


I don't see why not. Anyone else have an opinion?

Riki

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Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[madmurphy]

The hereapplies  LaTeX package has stably
been part of the CTAN repository for a while now, and a LyX module

is shipped with it. Will it be possible to include the module among the
modules installed by LyX?

--madmurphy

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 3:55 PM madmurphy  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Thank you for giving a look at the module. I can try to give a more
> concrete example by copying and pasting into a document random passages
> from Wikipedia (from the pages Infinitive
> , Realis mood
>  and Gerund
> ).
>
> The LyX document attached will produce (more or less) the following LaTeX
> code,
>
> \documentclass{article}
>
> \usepackage{hereapplies}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \title{Some title}
>
> \author{Some author}
>
> \maketitle
>
> \paragraph{The infinitive}
>
> The \textsc{infinitive} is the basic dictionary form of a verb when
> used non-finitely, with or without the particle to. For some examples
> of infinitive, please see \whereapplies{infinitive}.
>
> \paragraph{The indicative mood}
>
> The \textsc{indicative mood} is used principally to indicate that something
> is a statement of fact. For some examples of sentences with indicative
> mood, please see \whereapplies{indicative}.
>
> \paragraph{The gerund}
>
> In traditional grammars of English, the term \textsc{gerund} labels
> an important use of the form of the verb ending in \textit{-ing} (for
> details of its formation and spelling, see \textbf{English verbs}).
> Other important uses are termed participle (used adjectivally or adverbially),
> and as a pure verbal noun. See, for instance, \whereapplies{gerund}.\newpage
>
> \hereapplies{infinitive} ``To be, or not to be\dots ''.\newpage
>
> \hereapplies{indicative} ``\dots that is the question.''\newpage
>
> \hereapplies[shakespeare-hamlet]{infinitive, indicative} ``To be,
> or not to be, that is the question.''\newpage
>
> \hereapplies{gerund} ``Eating this cake is easy''.
>
> \end{document}
>
> and exactly the PDF file attached.
>
> I am actually using this LaTeX package (plus the LyX module) for a
> document I am currently working on, in which I define some concepts in the
> first chapter, and afterwards I apply these concepts for analysing things
> sparsely. The package is very useful for retrieving all these sparse
> occurrences of the concepts presented in the first chapter.
>
> As a more general description, the package allows to create informal
> glossaries, or simply makes it possible to cross-reference altogether
> groups of pages that share something in common.
>
> P.S. By the way, I have just added the “Label and References” category to
> the module (which is the category 
> that has been given to the LaTeX package on CTAN) – please find attacched
> the updated version (module only).
>
> --madmurphy
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:07 PM Pavel Sanda  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 09:30:44AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>> > Am Freitag, dem 26.08.2022 um 01:05 +0100 schrieb madmurphy:
>> > > Any updates on this? In the meanwhile I have update the module.
>> > > Please find the updated version of the patch attached.
>> >
>> > Sorry for keeping you waiting. Most people are currently on holidays or
>> > otherwise busy.
>> >
>> > I don't know how many people find your package useful, but generally,
>> > the module looks good. But let's wait what others have to say.
>>
>> I actually looked at the package some time ago, but from the minimalist
>> example it was not obvious to me what is the whole thing good for.
>> Maybe some real use case would help.
>>
>> Pavel
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Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[madmurphy]

Hi guys,

Thank you for giving a look at the module. I can try to give a more
concrete example by copying and pasting into a document random passages
from Wikipedia (from the pages Infinitive
, Realis mood
 and Gerund
).

The LyX document attached will produce (more or less) the following LaTeX
code,

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{hereapplies}

\begin{document}

\title{Some title}

\author{Some author}

\maketitle

\paragraph{The infinitive}

The \textsc{infinitive} is the basic dictionary form of a verb when
used non-finitely, with or without the particle to. For some examples
of infinitive, please see \whereapplies{infinitive}.

\paragraph{The indicative mood}

The \textsc{indicative mood} is used principally to indicate that something
is a statement of fact. For some examples of sentences with indicative
mood, please see \whereapplies{indicative}.

\paragraph{The gerund}

In traditional grammars of English, the term \textsc{gerund} labels
an important use of the form of the verb ending in \textit{-ing} (for
details of its formation and spelling, see \textbf{English verbs}).
Other important uses are termed participle (used adjectivally or adverbially),
and as a pure verbal noun. See, for instance, \whereapplies{gerund}.\newpage

\hereapplies{infinitive} ``To be, or not to be\dots ''.\newpage

\hereapplies{indicative} ``\dots that is the question.''\newpage

\hereapplies[shakespeare-hamlet]{infinitive, indicative} ``To be,
or not to be, that is the question.''\newpage

\hereapplies{gerund} ``Eating this cake is easy''.

\end{document}

and exactly the PDF file attached.

I am actually using this LaTeX package (plus the LyX module) for a document
I am currently working on, in which I define some concepts in the first
chapter, and afterwards I apply these concepts for analysing things
sparsely. The package is very useful for retrieving all these sparse
occurrences of the concepts presented in the first chapter.

As a more general description, the package allows to create informal
glossaries, or simply makes it possible to cross-reference altogether
groups of pages that share something in common.

P.S. By the way, I have just added the “Label and References” category to
the module (which is the category 
that has been given to the LaTeX package on CTAN) – please find attacched
the updated version (module only).

--madmurphy

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:07 PM Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 09:30:44AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Freitag, dem 26.08.2022 um 01:05 +0100 schrieb madmurphy:
> > > Any updates on this? In the meanwhile I have update the module.
> > > Please find the updated version of the patch attached.
> >
> > Sorry for keeping you waiting. Most people are currently on holidays or
> > otherwise busy.
> >
> > I don't know how many people find your package useful, but generally,
> > the module looks good. But let's wait what others have to say.
>
> I actually looked at the package some time ago, but from the minimalist
> example it was not obvious to me what is the whole thing good for.
> Maybe some real use case would help.
>
> Pavel
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Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[Pavel Sanda]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 09:30:44AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Freitag, dem 26.08.2022 um 01:05 +0100 schrieb madmurphy:
> > Any updates on this? In the meanwhile I have update the module.
> > Please find the updated version of the patch attached.
> 
> Sorry for keeping you waiting. Most people are currently on holidays or
> otherwise busy.
> 
> I don't know how many people find your package useful, but generally,
> the module looks good. But let's wait what others have to say.

I actually looked at the package some time ago, but from the minimalist
example it was not obvious to me what is the whole thing good for.
Maybe some real use case would help.

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Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 26.08.2022 um 01:05 +0100 schrieb madmurphy:
> Any updates on this? In the meanwhile I have update the module.
> Please find the updated version of the patch attached.

Sorry for keeping you waiting. Most people are currently on holidays or
otherwise busy.

I don't know how many people find your package useful, but generally,
the module looks good. But let's wait what others have to say.


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Re: [PATCH] "Here Applies" module

[madmurphy]

Any updates on this? In the meanwhile I have update the module. Please find
the updated version of the patch attached.

--madmurphy

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 12:58 AM madmurphy  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am the author of the *Here Applies* LaTeX package
>  (README
> ). The
> repository includes also a module for LyX
> .
> Please find attached a patch for shipping it with LyX.
>
> All the best
>
> --madmurphy
>
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