Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello Rob

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Rob Oakes rob.oa...@oak-tree.us wrote:
 PS, if there is interest from the developer/user community, I would also be
 happy to create a PPA for the latest alpha of LyX 2 (or we on the betas
 yet?).  To prevent it from destroying your system, though, I would need to
 patch the packaging files and inertia prevents me from doing so unless there
 is interest.

I'm currently in the process of switching to Xubuntu---I'm probably in
for some stability, coming from the rolling Debian testing and
previously Gentoo---and personally I'd love to have LyX 1.6.x and the
2.0 alphas running independently on my netbook.

Thanks for working on the Ubuntu packaging. Regards
Liviu


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Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello Rob

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Rob Oakes  wrote:
> PS, if there is interest from the developer/user community, I would also be
> happy to create a PPA for the latest alpha of LyX 2 (or we on the betas
> yet?).  To prevent it from destroying your system, though, I would need to
> patch the packaging files and inertia prevents me from doing so unless there
> is interest.
>
I'm currently in the process of switching to Xubuntu---I'm probably in
for some stability, coming from the rolling Debian testing and
previously Gentoo---and personally I'd love to have LyX 1.6.x and the
2.0 alphas running independently on my netbook.

Thanks for working on the Ubuntu packaging. Regards
Liviu


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Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Manveru]

2010/8/17 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
 Rob Oakes wrote:
  Dear LyX Users and Developers,

 firstly, thanks to care about ubuntu repos. the most frequent bug report
 is the combination of lyx 1.6.5  qt-4.6 in lynx; dont know if buntu's
 policies permit this but it would be great if all buntu users got 1.6.7
 automatically updated through the online updates - i guess that regular
 crashes really debase the reputation of the package in the users eyes.

As far as I know they were allow to patch the bug only. They do not
want to change functionality and change any library dependencies. But
I think this is only available for packages actively maintained on
Launchpad for Ubuntu maintenance. I wonder if it is possible to patch
the version and release bugfix version.

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Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Richard Kleeman]

Just updated as well with Lucid. Works well. Thanks for the ppa.

On 08/17/2010 11:45 AM, Rob Oakes wrote:

Dear LyX Users and Developers,

I wanted to provide a bit of an update to my adventures with Ubuntu
packaging (insofar as they are related to LyX).

I've spoken with the Ubuntu developers, and they have granted our
request to include 1.6.7 in the next version of Ubuntu (Maverick
Meerkat, 10.10). Packages have been compiled and are available from
Launchpad as of this moment (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx).

For users of Lucid Lynx (10.04) who would like to upgrade, I have
created a PPA that you can use
(https://launchpad.net/~lyx-outline-devel/+archive/lyx-stable). To
update, use the following commands from the terminal:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lyx-outline-devel/lyx-stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

This will add the repository to your list of software sources and then
update any software you have installed. If you have any problems, please
let me know.

Cheers,

Rob

PS, if there is interest from the developer/user community, I would also
be happy to create a PPA for the latest alpha of LyX 2 (or we on the
betas yet?). To prevent it from destroying your system, though, I would
need to patch the packaging files and inertia prevents me from doing so
unless there is interest.

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Manveru]

2010/8/17 Pavel Sanda :
> Rob Oakes wrote:
>>  Dear LyX Users and Developers,
>
> firstly, thanks to care about ubuntu repos. the most frequent bug report
> is the combination of lyx 1.6.5 & qt-4.6 in lynx; dont know if buntu's
> policies permit this but it would be great if all buntu users got 1.6.7
> automatically updated through the online updates - i guess that regular
> crashes really debase the reputation of the package in the users eyes.

As far as I know they were allow to patch the bug only. They do not
want to change functionality and change any library dependencies. But
I think this is only available for packages actively maintained on
Launchpad for Ubuntu maintenance. I wonder if it is possible to patch
the version and release bugfix version.

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Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Richard Kleeman]

Just updated as well with Lucid. Works well. Thanks for the ppa.

On 08/17/2010 11:45 AM, Rob Oakes wrote:

Dear LyX Users and Developers,

I wanted to provide a bit of an update to my adventures with Ubuntu
packaging (insofar as they are related to LyX).

I've spoken with the Ubuntu developers, and they have granted our
request to include 1.6.7 in the next version of Ubuntu (Maverick
Meerkat, 10.10). Packages have been compiled and are available from
Launchpad as of this moment (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx).

For users of Lucid Lynx (10.04) who would like to upgrade, I have
created a PPA that you can use
(https://launchpad.net/~lyx-outline-devel/+archive/lyx-stable). To
update, use the following commands from the terminal:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lyx-outline-devel/lyx-stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

This will add the repository to your list of software sources and then
update any software you have installed. If you have any problems, please
let me know.

Cheers,

Rob

PS, if there is interest from the developer/user community, I would also
be happy to create a PPA for the latest alpha of LyX 2 (or we on the
betas yet?). To prevent it from destroying your system, though, I would
need to patch the packaging files and inertia prevents me from doing so
unless there is interest.

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Pavel Sanda]

Rob Oakes wrote:
  Dear LyX Users and Developers,

firstly, thanks to care about ubuntu repos. the most frequent bug report
is the combination of lyx 1.6.5  qt-4.6 in lynx; dont know if buntu's
policies permit this but it would be great if all buntu users got 1.6.7 
automatically updated through the online updates - i guess that regular
crashes really debase the reputation of the package in the users eyes.

pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Rob Oakes]

I'll look into it and see if I can get them included for current users of 
Ubuntu.  Based on what I've read, I'm not sure it's very likely, though :(  But 
it never hurts to ask.

Other users can upgrade using the PPA I set up this morning and the 
instructions in the original email.  Once a user adds it to their software 
sources, the updates will be automatic and will come through the regular system 
updates.  We can also use the same process to push other source releases to 
Ubuntu users outside of the traditional sixth month Ubuntu update cycle.


On Aug 17, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

 Rob Oakes wrote:
 Dear LyX Users and Developers,
 
 firstly, thanks to care about ubuntu repos. the most frequent bug report
 is the combination of lyx 1.6.5  qt-4.6 in lynx; dont know if buntu's
 policies permit this but it would be great if all buntu users got 1.6.7 
 automatically updated through the online updates - i guess that regular
 crashes really debase the reputation of the package in the users eyes.
 
 pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Pavel Sanda]

Rob Oakes wrote:
 I'll look into it and see if I can get them included for current users of 
 Ubuntu.  Based on what I've read, I'm not sure it's very likely, though :(  
 But it never hurts to ask.

you can argue by the fact that this is no update, but rather bugfix of very 
unstable package given the qt 4.6 conditions.

 Other users can upgrade using the PPA I set up this morning and the 
 instructions in the original email.  Once a user adds it to their software 
 sources, the updates will be automatic and will come through the regular 
 system updates.  We can also use the same process to push other source 
 releases to Ubuntu users outside of the traditional sixth month Ubuntu update 
 cycle.

most buntu users have no idea about our side channels, so the default update 
service is imho important one.
pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Rob Oakes]

I'll see what I can do.  Those are both strong points.  Fortunately, the next 
version of Ubuntu (due in October) will ship with the latest version of LyX.  
I've also created the packages on Launchpad, so I think it's just a matter of 
getting them incorporated.

On Aug 17, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

 Rob Oakes wrote:
 I'll look into it and see if I can get them included for current users of 
 Ubuntu.  Based on what I've read, I'm not sure it's very likely, though :(  
 But it never hurts to ask.
 
 you can argue by the fact that this is no update, but rather bugfix of very 
 unstable package given the qt 4.6 conditions.
 
 Other users can upgrade using the PPA I set up this morning and the 
 instructions in the original email.  Once a user adds it to their software 
 sources, the updates will be automatic and will come through the regular 
 system updates.  We can also use the same process to push other source 
 releases to Ubuntu users outside of the traditional sixth month Ubuntu 
 update cycle.
 
 most buntu users have no idea about our side channels, so the default update 
 service is imho important one.
 pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Paul Rubin]

Just installed 1.6.7 on my laptop (Mint Isadora/Ubuntu Lucid).  Many thanks!

/Paul

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Pavel Sanda]

Rob Oakes wrote:
>  Dear LyX Users and Developers,

firstly, thanks to care about ubuntu repos. the most frequent bug report
is the combination of lyx 1.6.5 & qt-4.6 in lynx; dont know if buntu's
policies permit this but it would be great if all buntu users got 1.6.7 
automatically updated through the online updates - i guess that regular
crashes really debase the reputation of the package in the users eyes.

pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Rob Oakes]

I'll look into it and see if I can get them included for current users of 
Ubuntu.  Based on what I've read, I'm not sure it's very likely, though :(  But 
it never hurts to ask.

Other users can upgrade using the PPA I set up this morning and the 
instructions in the original email.  Once a user adds it to their software 
sources, the updates will be automatic and will come through the regular system 
updates.  We can also use the same process to push other source releases to 
Ubuntu users outside of the traditional sixth month Ubuntu update cycle.


On Aug 17, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

> Rob Oakes wrote:
>> Dear LyX Users and Developers,
> 
> firstly, thanks to care about ubuntu repos. the most frequent bug report
> is the combination of lyx 1.6.5 & qt-4.6 in lynx; dont know if buntu's
> policies permit this but it would be great if all buntu users got 1.6.7 
> automatically updated through the online updates - i guess that regular
> crashes really debase the reputation of the package in the users eyes.
> 
> pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Pavel Sanda]

Rob Oakes wrote:
> I'll look into it and see if I can get them included for current users of 
> Ubuntu.  Based on what I've read, I'm not sure it's very likely, though :(  
> But it never hurts to ask.

you can argue by the fact that this is no update, but rather bugfix of very 
unstable package given the qt 4.6 conditions.

> Other users can upgrade using the PPA I set up this morning and the 
> instructions in the original email.  Once a user adds it to their software 
> sources, the updates will be automatic and will come through the regular 
> system updates.  We can also use the same process to push other source 
> releases to Ubuntu users outside of the traditional sixth month Ubuntu update 
> cycle.

most buntu users have no idea about our side channels, so the default update 
service is imho important one.
pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Rob Oakes]

I'll see what I can do.  Those are both strong points.  Fortunately, the next 
version of Ubuntu (due in October) will ship with the latest version of LyX.  
I've also created the packages on Launchpad, so I think it's just a matter of 
getting them incorporated.

On Aug 17, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

> Rob Oakes wrote:
>> I'll look into it and see if I can get them included for current users of 
>> Ubuntu.  Based on what I've read, I'm not sure it's very likely, though :(  
>> But it never hurts to ask.
> 
> you can argue by the fact that this is no update, but rather bugfix of very 
> unstable package given the qt 4.6 conditions.
> 
>> Other users can upgrade using the PPA I set up this morning and the 
>> instructions in the original email.  Once a user adds it to their software 
>> sources, the updates will be automatic and will come through the regular 
>> system updates.  We can also use the same process to push other source 
>> releases to Ubuntu users outside of the traditional sixth month Ubuntu 
>> update cycle.
> 
> most buntu users have no idea about our side channels, so the default update 
> service is imho important one.
> pavel

Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu

[Paul Rubin]

Just installed 1.6.7 on my laptop (Mint Isadora/Ubuntu Lucid).  Many thanks!

/Paul