Re: Windows installer --- software probe
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Asger Ottar Alstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: unknown Kopie: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org Betreff: Re: Windows installer --- software probe Datum: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:45:06 +0200 One comment: The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? Regards, Asger I guess you mean msys - minimal gnu system: MSYS-1.0.10.exe on http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml BTW: I'm w/o access to my mailbox until June, 23. Regards Carl -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Carl Dr. Kleffner wrote: One comment: The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? Regards, Asger I guess you mean msys - minimal gnu system: MSYS-1.0.10.exe on http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml That's correct. I want the user to grab msys-1.0.x.exe which they can get from http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/ (the download.shtml page takes you to the sf.net pages when you select some file for download.) I've changed the label on the radio button to: Download MinSYS (MSYS-1.0.X.exe) which I trust will allow the user to grab the correct binary. Angus
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus Carl Dr. Kleffner wrote: One comment: The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? Regards, Asger I guess you mean msys - minimal gnu system: MSYS-1.0.10.exe on http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml Angus That's correct. I want the user to grab msys-1.0.x.exe which Angus they can get from http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/ (the Angus download.shtml page takes you to the sf.net pages when you Angus select some file for download.) What about this instead? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435package_id=82721release_id=158803 I think it is much simpler for newcomers. The only thing I am not sure about is whether the release_id tag is stable with new versions. JMarc
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: What about this instead? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435package_id=82721release_id=158803 I think it is much simpler for newcomers. The only thing I am not sure about is whether the release_id tag is stable with new versions. Thanks, Jean-Marc. Let's do this for LyX 1.3.6 anyway. We can always reconsider for future releases. Angus
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: Asger Ottar Alstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: unknown > Kopie: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org > Betreff: Re: Windows installer --- software probe > Datum: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:45:06 +0200 > > One comment: > > The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file > to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. > Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? > > Regards, > Asger > I guess you mean msys - minimal gnu system: MSYS-1.0.10.exe on http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml BTW: I'm w/o access to my mailbox until June, 23. Regards Carl -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Carl Dr. Kleffner wrote: One comment: The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? Regards, Asger I guess you mean msys - minimal gnu system: MSYS-1.0.10.exe on http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml That's correct. I want the user to grab msys-1.0.x.exe which they can get from http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/ (the download.shtml page takes you to the sf.net pages when you select some file for download.) I've changed the label on the radio button to: Download MinSYS (MSYS-1.0.X.exe) which I trust will allow the user to grab the correct binary. Angus
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Carl Dr. Kleffner wrote: >>> One comment: >>> >>> The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which >>> file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that >>> web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? >>> >>> Regards, Asger >> I guess you mean msys - minimal gnu system: MSYS-1.0.10.exe on >> http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml Angus> That's correct. I want the user to grab msys-1.0.x.exe which Angus> they can get from http://prdownloads.sf.net/mingw/ (the Angus> download.shtml page takes you to the sf.net pages when you Angus> select some file for download.) What about this instead? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435_id=82721_id=158803 I think it is much simpler for newcomers. The only thing I am not sure about is whether the release_id tag is stable with new versions. JMarc
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: What about this instead? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435_id=82721_id=158803 I think it is much simpler for newcomers. The only thing I am not sure about is whether the release_id tag is stable with new versions. Thanks, Jean-Marc. Let's do this for LyX 1.3.6 anyway. We can always reconsider for future releases. Angus
Windows installer --- software probe
Attached is everything needed to probe the Windows box on which we're installing LyX --- I think :) Compile the .nsi script with $ path to\makensis lyx_installer.nsi I've shoved the resulting executable onto the web at http://www.devel.lyx.org/~leeming/software_probe.exe It's 55kB in size. It looks for: * MinSYS (sh.exe) * python (Python.exe) * MiKTeX (latex.exe) * Perl (perl.exe) * ImageMagick (convert.exe) * Ghostscript (gswin32c.exe) and won't proceed unless it finds sh.exe and Python.exe. The others are optional. If you ask to download a package, it'll fire up your web browser and take you someplace appropriate. Needless to say, it works on my box, threatening to add a 'path_prefix' variable to my 'lyxrc.defaults' file containing: J:\MinSYS\bin; C:\Python24; C:\MiKTeX\Main\miktex\bin; C:\PROGRA~1\Perl\bin; C:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.2.1-Q16; c:\program files\Ghostscript 8.33\gs8.33\bin Perhaps people will try it out and give me some feedback? Angus ps Asger, this nsis stuff sucks! Urggg! software_probe.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Angus Leeming wrote: Attached is everything needed to probe the Windows box on which we're installing LyX --- I think :) A few other candidates if you are in the mood: Chktex, aspell, xfig, the gimp. I've shoved the resulting executable onto the web at http://www.devel.lyx.org/~leeming/software_probe.exe It's 55kB in size. It looks for: * MinSYS (sh.exe) Correctly detected that I do not have that. Opened Firefox with the minsys download page. * python (Python.exe) Detected 2.4 installation the right place. * MiKTeX (latex.exe) Detected my installation the right place. * Perl (perl.exe) Correctly detected that I do not have that. I skipped it, and it was fine. * ImageMagick (convert.exe) Correctly detected that I do not have that. I skippet it, and it was fine. * Ghostscript (gswin32c.exe) Correctly found my gsviewer. Needless to say, it works on my box, threatening to add a 'path_prefix' variable to my 'lyxrc.defaults' file containing: J:\MinSYS\bin; C:\Python24; C:\MiKTeX\Main\miktex\bin; C:\PROGRA~1\Perl\bin; C:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.2.1-Q16; c:\program files\Ghostscript 8.33\gs8.33\bin Perhaps people will try it out and give me some feedback? I did not download minsys, so the installer exited cleanly explaining what I had to do. ps Asger, this nsis stuff sucks! Urggg! That might be so, but your installer is cool. BTW, all installers I have tried sucked. Most of the commercial ones suck even more than NSIS, because the bugs in them are never fixed. In particular I have not found any that works well with all the 14 languages we need, included Japanese, Chinese and Korean. Regards, Asger
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
One comment: The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? Regards, Asger
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Attached is everything needed to probe the Windows box on which we're installing LyX --- I think :) A few other candidates if you are in the mood: Chktex, aspell, xfig, the gimp. I think I'll leave it at what it has. None of the above are critical to LyX's operation and all can be added at a later date and thereafter will just work. Don't you think that six extra pages before you try and install LyX itself are enough ? :) That might be so, but your installer is cool. Thanks for trying it out. Thanks also for providing the template code, although it's changed rather a lot since then. No extraneaous global variables at all... BTW, all installers I have tried sucked. Most of the commercial ones suck even more than NSIS, because the bugs in them are never fixed. Why isn't there one written in python that uses python as its interface language. This weird macro shit is, well, shit. And I took half an hour with pen and paper trying to work out how to manipulate the stack correctly so that I could call functions without declaring a bunch of global variables. In particular I have not found any that works well with all the 14 languages we need, included Japanese, Chinese and Korean. Yes, I'm just trying out the multilingual stuff. Regards, Asger -- Angus
Windows installer --- software probe
Attached is everything needed to probe the Windows box on which we're installing LyX --- I think :) Compile the .nsi script with $ \makensis lyx_installer.nsi I've shoved the resulting executable onto the web at http://www.devel.lyx.org/~leeming/software_probe.exe It's 55kB in size. It looks for: * MinSYS (sh.exe) * python (Python.exe) * MiKTeX (latex.exe) * Perl (perl.exe) * ImageMagick (convert.exe) * Ghostscript (gswin32c.exe) and won't proceed unless it finds sh.exe and Python.exe. The others are optional. If you ask to download a package, it'll fire up your web browser and take you someplace appropriate. Needless to say, it works on my box, threatening to add a 'path_prefix' variable to my 'lyxrc.defaults' file containing: J:\MinSYS\bin; C:\Python24; C:\MiKTeX\Main\miktex\bin; C:\PROGRA~1\Perl\bin; C:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.2.1-Q16; c:\program files\Ghostscript 8.33\gs8.33\bin Perhaps people will try it out and give me some feedback? Angus ps Asger, this nsis stuff sucks! Urggg! software_probe.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Angus Leeming wrote: Attached is everything needed to probe the Windows box on which we're installing LyX --- I think :) A few other candidates if you are in the mood: Chktex, aspell, xfig, the gimp. I've shoved the resulting executable onto the web at http://www.devel.lyx.org/~leeming/software_probe.exe It's 55kB in size. It looks for: * MinSYS (sh.exe) Correctly detected that I do not have that. Opened Firefox with the minsys download page. * python (Python.exe) Detected 2.4 installation the right place. * MiKTeX (latex.exe) Detected my installation the right place. * Perl (perl.exe) Correctly detected that I do not have that. I skipped it, and it was fine. * ImageMagick (convert.exe) Correctly detected that I do not have that. I skippet it, and it was fine. * Ghostscript (gswin32c.exe) Correctly found my gsviewer. Needless to say, it works on my box, threatening to add a 'path_prefix' variable to my 'lyxrc.defaults' file containing: J:\MinSYS\bin; C:\Python24; C:\MiKTeX\Main\miktex\bin; C:\PROGRA~1\Perl\bin; C:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.2.1-Q16; c:\program files\Ghostscript 8.33\gs8.33\bin Perhaps people will try it out and give me some feedback? I did not download minsys, so the installer exited cleanly explaining what I had to do. ps Asger, this nsis stuff sucks! Urggg! That might be so, but your installer is cool. BTW, all installers I have tried sucked. Most of the commercial ones suck even more than NSIS, because the bugs in them are never fixed. In particular I have not found any that works well with all the 14 languages we need, included Japanese, Chinese and Korean. Regards, Asger
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
One comment: The reason I did not install minsys was that I did not know which file to download and install. There are listed hundreds on that web-site. Maybe you could list what file the user should grab? Regards, Asger
Re: Windows installer --- software probe
Asger Ottar Alstrup wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: >> Attached is everything needed to probe the Windows box on which we're >> installing LyX --- I think :) > A few other candidates if you are in the mood: Chktex, aspell, xfig, the > gimp. I think I'll leave it at what it has. None of the above are "critical" to LyX's operation and all can be added at a later date and thereafter will "just work". Don't you think that six extra pages before you try and install LyX itself are enough ? :) > That might be so, but your installer is cool. Thanks for trying it out. Thanks also for providing the template code, although it's changed rather a lot since then. No extraneaous global variables at all... > BTW, all installers I have tried sucked. Most of the commercial ones > suck even more than NSIS, because the bugs in them are never fixed. Why isn't there one written in python that uses python as its interface language. This weird macro shit is, well, shit. And I took half an hour with pen and paper trying to work out how to manipulate the stack correctly so that I could call functions without declaring a bunch of global variables. > In particular I have not found any that works well with all the 14 > languages we need, included Japanese, Chinese and Korean. Yes, I'm just trying out the multilingual stuff. > Regards, > Asger -- Angus
