Re: Cross references (was Re: Ideas
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Allan Rae wrote: who cares what he wrote, he's alive! Yay! :) I do hope you haven't been dangerously ill or anything. Hi Allan, I am ill of work, nothing else. It's friday so I should probably flame you for not making an appearance sooner. Slacker! Well, I have been just a passive member of this list, for months. Now I have a real job and a lot of things to do. :( So, are you now back or is this a fleeting visit? Where's the new Mathed? If you help me to update it to the recent kernel changes, I'll unveil it gladly. :) Any number of other annoying questions... ;-) Are you coming to the developers meeting? I'll try but I'm involved in a big project, I'm not sure I'll have the time. However, it's possible that I'll go to your land, as a member of the support team for the wind sailing team (sorry I don't know the proper terms) in the next games, but that's not sure. BTW is the GUI independence ready? Greets, Alejandro
Help needed?
Hi, I noticed that a new LyX version (1.1.5) is coming soon. Before 1.1.4 was released, I tested Lyx on Sun SPARC Solaris with Sun CC 5.0 and Purify. This way, several problems could be detected and fixed. Even though I cannot afford too much effort this time, I would like to offer my help to you again. If you think that Lyx 1.1.5 is stable and likely to be released soon, you can send me a short email. Then, I will spend an evening on doing nasty things with LyX. Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: Hollywood class
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:57:12PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
There are some rambling about this in the fancyhdr documentation. In
the meantime, I asked on compt.text.tex.
I saw the following response in comp.text.tex.
The suggested tex macros indeed work (note that it defines speaker as a
command, whereas hollywood.cls defines it as an environment, but the former
does makes more sense).
The only problem is that it doesn't prohibits breaking of sentences in a
dialogue, though it discourage that.
--
Subject: Re: Continuation marks (cont'd)
Date:05/12/2000
Author: Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes:
There is a LaTeX class (hollywood.cls) bundled with LyX which is
designed to write hollywood scripts. While it is good, it comes with the
following disclaimer:
Always preview the script to find where to insert page breaks. Speakers'
lines should NEVER break in mid-sentence. If a speaker's lines continue
over a page break, repeat the Speaker title followed by (Cont'd).
You call this "good"? I can't imagine writing a document
class that did not perform such a fundamental action.
LaTeX/LyX. While not breaking at mid-sentence may be difficult (is it
possible?),
With great difficulty, but I have never seen such a rule.
Just that each speech by a speaker should stay together,
but if it *must* be broken, then it should have a
continuation title.
The whole document should be in typewriter.
Fancyhdr.sty provides continuation titles.
Without fancyhdr, here is something I made a long time
ago. Don't know if it really works now.
% Repeated in-text headings; shown here for speakers in a
script.
\def\speaker{\@startsection{speaker}{99}{\z@}%
{-.5ex \@plus -.2ex \@minus -.2ex}%
{1\p@ \@plus 1\p@ \@minus1\p@}%
{\normalfont\normalsize\bfseries\centering}}
\newcounter{speaker}% not used
\def\thespeaker{\arabic{speaker}}
\def\speakermark#1{\markboth{#1}{#1}}
\def\ps@speakers{% based on "plain" page style
\let\@oddhead\@empty\def\@oddfoot{\reset@font\hfil\thepage
\hfil}\let\@evenhead\@empty\let\@evenfoot\@oddfoot
\let\@mkboth\markboth
\let\chaptermark\@gobble \let\sectionmark\@gobble
}
\pagestyle{speakers}
\def\dep@save{\@tempdima\dp\@cclv}
\output\expandafter{\expandafter\dep@save\the\output
\ifnum\outputpenalty\m@ne
\centerline{\normalfont\normalsize \leftmark
~(\continuedname)}% \kern-\prevdepth\kern\@tempdima
\nobreak
\vskip 1\p@ \@plus\p@ \@minus\p@
\fi}
\def\continuedname{continued}% allow multilingual
\raggedbottom
\advance\topskip 0pt plus 6pt
\interlinepenalty 300
Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hollywood class
Dekel Tsur wrote:
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:57:12PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
There are some rambling about this in the fancyhdr documentation. In
the meantime, I asked on compt.text.tex.
I saw the following response in comp.text.tex.
The suggested tex macros indeed work (note that it defines speaker as a
command, whereas hollywood.cls defines it as an environment, but the former
does makes more sense).
The only problem is that it doesn't prohibits breaking of sentences in a
dialogue, though it discourage that.
--
Subject: Re: Continuation marks (cont'd)
Date:05/12/2000
Author: Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes:
There is a LaTeX class (hollywood.cls) bundled with LyX which is
designed to write hollywood scripts. While it is good, it comes with the
following disclaimer:
Always preview the script to find where to insert page breaks. Speakers'
lines should NEVER break in mid-sentence. If a speaker's lines continue
over a page break, repeat the Speaker title followed by (Cont'd).
You call this "good"? I can't imagine writing a document
class that did not perform such a fundamental action.
When I wrote hollywood I could not imagine writing a document class at
all:)
LaTeX/LyX. While not breaking at mid-sentence may be difficult (is it
possible?),
With great difficulty, but I have never seen such a rule.
Just that each speech by a speaker should stay together,
but if it *must* be broken, then it should have a
continuation title.
Imagine first reading of a script and having to turn pages in
mid-sentence.
The whole document should be in typewriter.
It is.
Fancyhdr.sty provides continuation titles.
Yes, but not in the preferred format.
Without fancyhdr, here is something I made a long time
ago. Don't know if it really works now.
[snip latex]
Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, what works for 99% of the cases, is to bracket the SPEAKER part in
\begin{minipage}[t]{6.15in}
speaker
parentheticals (if any}
dialogue
\end{minipage}
The only time when this does not work is if the a single instance spans
more than a page. The minipage will apparently run over a page lenght
and off the paper. Such lengthy monologue is discourage, but does occurr
(e.g., the pig in Waiting for Godot.)
But, we currently have no way of inserting \begin{minipage}
With the ERT version, I had some other problems. I tried making an
example to see what would happen by just holding down the x key. The
lines wrapped on the LyX screen at the expected place, but on
ViewPostscript the lines did not break, so I had to go back and do
returns at one character before each line ending.
Derfor, I suggest moving the minipage setup out of Layout Paragraph
ExtraOpt and provide a separate Layouts for Begin and End Minipage. This
layout could be extended to do parboxes and the like.
Garst
Garst
lyx bug: incoreect highlighting of text
I have attached a jpg image of a lyx screen shot which shows a bug which I see often although I can't produce it on command. I have just highlighted the 'Untersuchungen' region and get a second region highlighted as well. No crashes. Lyx will edit the area I want. It is just the display which is wrong. Now with the attachment. Ulrich -- Ulrich Günther lyx_bug.jpg
Re: Help needed?
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:16:59PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: Hi, I noticed that a new LyX version (1.1.5) is coming soon. Before 1.1.4 was released, I tested Lyx on Sun SPARC Solaris with Sun CC 5.0 and Purify. This way, several problems could be detected and fixed. Even though I cannot afford too much effort this time, I would like to offer my help to you again. If you think that Lyx 1.1.5 is stable and likely to be released soon, you can send me a short email. Then, I will spend an evening on doing nasty things with LyX. Michael That sounds like a great idea. You can start with 1.1.5pre2 which should be release Real Soon Now. ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc.| Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena http://www.successlinks.com/kayvan | Reach your goals now! | Robin Gregory
Re: Cross references (was Re: Ideas
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Allan Rae wrote: > who cares what he wrote, he's alive! > > Yay! :) > I do hope you haven't been dangerously ill or anything. Hi Allan, I am ill of work, nothing else. > It's friday so I should probably flame you for not making an appearance > sooner. Slacker! Well, I have been just a passive member of this list, for months. Now I have a real job and a lot of things to do. :( > So, are you now back or is this a fleeting visit? > Where's the new Mathed? If you help me to update it to the recent kernel changes, I'll unveil it gladly. :) > Any number of other annoying questions... ;-) > > Are you coming to the developers meeting? I'll try but I'm involved in a big project, I'm not sure I'll have the time. However, it's possible that I'll go to your land, as a member of the support team for the wind sailing team (sorry I don't know the proper terms) in the next games, but that's not sure. BTW is the GUI independence ready? Greets, Alejandro
Help needed?
Hi, I noticed that a new LyX version (1.1.5) is coming soon. Before 1.1.4 was released, I tested Lyx on Sun SPARC Solaris with Sun CC 5.0 and Purify. This way, several problems could be detected and fixed. Even though I cannot afford too much effort this time, I would like to offer my help to you again. If you think that Lyx 1.1.5 is stable and likely to be released soon, you can send me a short email. Then, I will spend an evening on doing nasty things with LyX. Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: Hollywood class
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:57:12PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> There are some rambling about this in the fancyhdr documentation. In
> the meantime, I asked on compt.text.tex.
I saw the following response in comp.text.tex.
The suggested tex macros indeed work (note that it defines speaker as a
command, whereas hollywood.cls defines it as an environment, but the former
does makes more sense).
The only problem is that it doesn't prohibits breaking of sentences in a
dialogue, though it discourage that.
--
Subject: Re: Continuation marks (cont'd)
Date:05/12/2000
Author: Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes:
> There is a LaTeX class (hollywood.cls) bundled with LyX which is
> designed to write hollywood scripts. While it is good, it comes with the
> following disclaimer:
>
> Always preview the script to find where to insert page breaks. Speakers'
> lines should NEVER break in mid-sentence. If a speaker's lines continue
> over a page break, repeat the Speaker title followed by (Cont'd).
You call this "good"? I can't imagine writing a document
class that did not perform such a fundamental action.
> LaTeX/LyX. While not breaking at mid-sentence may be difficult (is it
> possible?),
With great difficulty, but I have never seen such a rule.
Just that each speech by a speaker should stay together,
but if it *must* be broken, then it should have a
continuation title.
The whole document should be in typewriter.
Fancyhdr.sty provides continuation titles.
Without fancyhdr, here is something I made a long time
ago. Don't know if it really works now.
% Repeated in-text headings; shown here for speakers in a
script.
\def\speaker{\@startsection{speaker}{99}{\z@}%
{-.5ex \@plus -.2ex \@minus -.2ex}%
{1\p@ \@plus 1\p@ \@minus1\p@}%
{\normalfont\normalsize\bfseries\centering}}
\newcounter{speaker}% not used
\def\thespeaker{\arabic{speaker}}
\def\speakermark#1{\markboth{#1}{#1}}
\def\ps@speakers{% based on "plain" page style
\let\@oddhead\@empty\def\@oddfoot{\reset@font\hfil\thepage
\hfil}\let\@evenhead\@empty\let\@evenfoot\@oddfoot
\let\@mkboth\markboth
\let\chaptermark\@gobble \let\sectionmark\@gobble
}
\pagestyle{speakers}
\def\dep@save{\@tempdima\dp\@cclv}
\output\expandafter{\expandafter\dep@save\the\output
\ifnum\outputpenalty>\m@ne
\centerline{\normalfont\normalsize \leftmark
~(\continuedname)}% \kern-\prevdepth\kern\@tempdima
\nobreak
\vskip 1\p@ \@plus\p@ \@minus\p@
\fi}
\def\continuedname{continued}% allow multilingual
\raggedbottom
\advance\topskip 0pt plus 6pt
\interlinepenalty 300
Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hollywood class
Dekel Tsur wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 05:57:12PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
> > There are some rambling about this in the fancyhdr documentation. In
> > the meantime, I asked on compt.text.tex.
>
> I saw the following response in comp.text.tex.
> The suggested tex macros indeed work (note that it defines speaker as a
> command, whereas hollywood.cls defines it as an environment, but the former
> does makes more sense).
> The only problem is that it doesn't prohibits breaking of sentences in a
> dialogue, though it discourage that.
>
> --
> Subject: Re: Continuation marks (cont'd)
> Date:05/12/2000
> Author: Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Marc Lasgouttes) writes:
>
> > There is a LaTeX class (hollywood.cls) bundled with LyX which is
> > designed to write hollywood scripts. While it is good, it comes with the
> > following disclaimer:
> >
> > Always preview the script to find where to insert page breaks. Speakers'
> > lines should NEVER break in mid-sentence. If a speaker's lines continue
> > over a page break, repeat the Speaker title followed by (Cont'd).
>
> You call this "good"? I can't imagine writing a document
> class that did not perform such a fundamental action.
When I wrote hollywood I could not imagine writing a document class at
all:)
> > LaTeX/LyX. While not breaking at mid-sentence may be difficult (is it
> > possible?),
>
> With great difficulty, but I have never seen such a rule.
> Just that each speech by a speaker should stay together,
> but if it *must* be broken, then it should have a
> continuation title.
Imagine first reading of a script and having to turn pages in
mid-sentence.
> The whole document should be in typewriter.
It is.
> Fancyhdr.sty provides continuation titles.
Yes, but not in the preferred format.
> Without fancyhdr, here is something I made a long time
> ago. Don't know if it really works now.
[snip latex]
> Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, what works for 99% of the cases, is to bracket the SPEAKER part in
\begin{minipage}[t]{6.15in}
speaker
parentheticals (if any}
dialogue
\end{minipage}
The only time when this does not work is if the a single instance spans
more than a page. The minipage will apparently run over a page lenght
and off the paper. Such lengthy monologue is discourage, but does occurr
(e.g., the pig in Waiting for Godot.)
But, we currently have no way of inserting \begin{minipage}
With the ERT version, I had some other problems. I tried making an
example to see what would happen by just holding down the x key. The
lines wrapped on the LyX screen at the expected place, but on
ViewPostscript the lines did not break, so I had to go back and do
returns at one character before each line ending.
Derfor, I suggest moving the minipage setup out of Layout Paragraph
ExtraOpt and provide a separate Layouts for Begin and End Minipage. This
layout could be extended to do parboxes and the like.
Garst
Garst
lyx bug: incoreect highlighting of text
I have attached a jpg image of a lyx screen shot which shows a bug which I see often although I can't produce it on command. I have just highlighted the 'Untersuchungen' region and get a second region highlighted as well. No crashes. Lyx will edit the area I want. It is just the display which is wrong. Now with the attachment. Ulrich -- Ulrich Günther lyx_bug.jpg
Re: Help needed?
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 02:16:59PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that a new LyX version (1.1.5) is coming soon. > > Before 1.1.4 was released, I tested Lyx on Sun SPARC Solaris with Sun CC > 5.0 and Purify. This way, several problems could be detected and fixed. > > Even though I cannot afford too much effort this time, I would like to > offer my help to you again. If you think that Lyx 1.1.5 is stable and > likely to be released soon, you can send me a short email. Then, I will > spend an evening on doing nasty things with LyX. > > Michael That sounds like a great idea. You can start with 1.1.5pre2 which should be release Real Soon Now. ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc.| Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena http://www.successlinks.com/kayvan | Reach your goals now! | Robin Gregory
