hello

[Don Paul]

hello

Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 EagleIce == EagleIce  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

EagleIce Will we be informed to this list when and where we
EagleIce eventually can download the package?

Yes, however, Tortsten found out that the RH packages work well for
him, so we are not sure whether the Suse packages are really needed...
Of course, if it turns out they are needed, I'll upload them and tell
the list about it.

JMarc

xfig documentation and use

[Reuben Thomas]

It seems that the docs for xfig use have sadly lagged behind reality: you
can no longer include raw LaTeX, only LyX (presumably you're supposed to
import the LaTeX document you want to include, save it as LyX, then include
the LyX document? Seems a bit long-winded).

So now xfig figures are treated as External material. All well and good, a
nice simple interface, *but* even though I selected LaTeX fonts in my xfig
diagrams, they are all rendered as Times and Courier (whereas I'm using
Computer Modern in my LyX document). Is there a way to get the right fonts
in xfig documents other than using the hack-around of saving my xfig diagram
as mixed, then pasting in the .pstex_t file directly as ERT or somesuch?

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L'art des vers est de transformer en beautés les faiblesses (Aragon)

[michelleDukich@yahoo.com] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Can somebody help Michelle?

JMarc

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:23:34 +0200
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


MichelleDukich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Please help me again.  I am trying to add footers to my document.  
I am in the STANDARD mode.
According to the doc/Extended.lys info, section 1.7, 
I only need to LayTex Preamble from the Insert Menu option and type:

\lfoot{My Paper Title}
\rfoot{Page \thepage}

When I View in DVI, I get 3 errors.  It says my top line was und'fd.
I have put no other info into the Preamble, but Lyx did. 

Part II of this is can and how do I get a SECOND line of footers?
I am assuming something like  \rfoot2  and \lfoot2 ??

Many thanks in advance.

Michelle

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Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[EagleIce]

On Tuesday 29 May 2001 12:24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Guenter == Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Guenter I used the RH package as well, and it works with my SuSE 6.4
 Guenter system.

 Good.

 Guenter Maybe we could check this and then possibly drop the native
 Guenter SuSE rpm-s (plus tell the user that the ones provided work
 Guenter for both RH and SuSE).

 Yes. I have no possibility to check that myself, so I will to what you
 (and other suse users) say we should do.

 JMarc
OK, I'll download the rpm and check if it works on my SuSE 7.1, I will also 
check later on if it works on my Caldera eDesktop 2.4 at work (warn me 
someone if you know it doesn't work).
But what is this: lyxgdb-1.1.6fix2-1.i386.rpm?

Cheers,

ei


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Re: [michelleDukich@yahoo.com] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Herbert Voss]

 MichelleDukich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the
 following feedback message on the LyX home page:
 

 Please help me again.  I am trying to add footers to my document.
 I am in the STANDARD mode.
 According to the doc/Extended.lys info, section 1.7,
 I only need to LayTex Preamble from the Insert Menu option and type:

 \lfoot{My Paper Title}
 \rfoot{Page \thepage}

do you have
layout-document-pagestyle-fancy

HErbert

[mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

OK, LyX users, could you tell Mike why you are LyX users? ;)

JMarc

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:16:02 +0200
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Some of the pictures (the bigger ones) you get when clicking on the thumbnails in the 
graphical tour are broken.
**
As someone who was force-fed MS Word and is trying the transition to Sun StarOffice, 
why should I want LyX?
I've heard some people on BBS-es saying it's incredible/very good, but does it do 
something better/easier?
Is it just for people needing an extensive amount of math-graphics/graphs?
Would my grandma like it instead of Word? (Damn, Word is always placing these 
pictures where I didn't put them!)


--- End of forwarded message ---

Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 EagleIce == EagleIce  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

EagleIce OK, I'll download the rpm and check if it works on my SuSE
EagleIce 7.1, I will also check later on if it works on my Caldera
EagleIce eDesktop 2.4 at work (warn me someone if you know it doesn't
EagleIce work). But what is this: lyxgdb-1.1.6fix2-1.i386.rpm?

This one is an unstripped binary to be used to get useful gdb
backtraces to report bugs. 

JMarc

equation_numbering

[Andreas Rau]

Hi,

simple question, but I am in quite a hurry (as probably many of us):

The UsersGuide states that each line of a multiline equation is numbered
separately by default. However, I only get one number vertically
centered for the multiple lines. 
How to get the default behavior, so I can toggle the numbering of
specific lines on and off?

Thanx for your help
Andreas
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Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Pierre.Chretien]

OK, LyX users, could you tell Mike why you are LyX users? ;)

JMarc

--- Start of forwarded message ---
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:16:02 +0200
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Some of the pictures (the bigger ones) you get when clicking on the thumbnails 
in the graphical tour are broken.
**
As someone who was force-fed MS Word and is trying the transition to Sun 
StarOffice, why should I want LyX?
I've heard some people on BBS-es saying it's incredible/very good, but does it 
do something better/easier?
Is it just for people needing an extensive amount of math-graphics/graphs?

Among others...

 - no difference between the desired document structure and the
 really printed stuff (i.e. a section title IS a section title, not
 a set of local font, family, size, etc. settings); it is possible to use
 styles in Word or StarOffice, but it is also possible not to do so;
 - leave all the (section-like) style hacking to the local of foreign gurus;
 - have a presentation layer (dvi, ps, pdf, html, etc.) highly customizable;
 - ...
 
Would my grandma like it instead of Word? (Damn, Word is always placing these 
pictures where I didn't put them!)

Same questions with LyX/LaTeX, the difference is that you are able to know
how the placment algorithm works, and act in consequence...

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Making a layout for ENTCS

[Herbert Voss]

Reuben Thomas wrote:
 
 I am currently writing a paper using entcs.cls (Elsevier's Electronic Notes
 in Theoretical Computer Science style).
 
 It has a slightly unusual requirement: the \author, \address  so on
 commands must go in a special environment:
 
 \begin{frontmatter}
 \author{Me}
 \title{Foo}
 \address{Bar}
 \end{frontmatter}
 
 I'm developing entcs.layout, based on article.layout, as I go, and most of
 the features are fairly clear to implement, but I can't see how to do this
 one. Glancing at the other standard layout files, I can't see that any of
 them has this problem either.

maybe that this works. i can't try, because i don't have
the entcs.cls.

in your entcls-layout file:

Preamble
  \let\myMaketitle\maketitle
  \renewcommand\maketitle{%
\begin{frontmatter}
\myMaketitle
\end{frontmatter}%
  }
EndPreamble


Herbert

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Re: equation_numbering

[Andreas Rau]

Herbert Voss wrote:
 Andreas Rau wrote:
  simple question, but I am in quite a hurry (as probably many of us):
 
  The UsersGuide states that each line of a multiline equation is numbered
  separately by default. However, I only get one number vertically
  centered for the multiple lines.
  How to get the default behavior, so I can toggle the numbering of
  specific lines on and off?
 
 do you get the rows with ctrl-enter oder with inserting
 a mtrix?

I got the rows with Ctrl-Enter. Just tried the matrix way, but it didn't
change anything.

  The defunc multiline equations are in the appendix and besides the
  line-by-line numbering I am struggling with another weird problem: I   get
  an extra word 'Appendix' in the TOC, in the labels, in cross-refs. For 
example, an equation label looks like
  
  
  equation  (Appendix A.1)
  
  instead of
  
  equation  (A.1)
 
 what class?
 how do you start the appendix and what additional commands
 like addcontentsline... do you have?

it is the koma-script (book) class. I've bothered you with the appendix
problem before. That's when you gave me the 'myLabelWidth' hint below,
in order to prevent the words from overlapping in the TOC. The
overlapping was/is caused by this annoying extra 'Appendix' everywhere.

Right now my appendix starts with (plus some fancy 'myLabelWidth' code
in the preamble):

\begin{appendix}
\addcontents{toc}{\addtolength{\myLabelWidth}{5em}}
.
\end{appendix}

Thanx for your efforts,
Andreas

(BTW, nice new layout of your LyX(Latex)-Tips webpage,Herbert!)

Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Dirk De Bruyker]

On Tue, 29 May 2001, Niklas Werner wrote:

 - Even if LyX crashes you still will at most have lost a word or two!

In my opinion the stability of a GNU/Linux system + Lyx is a major
advantage. I'm working on a big document (200 pages, about 100 figures)
and indeed never lost more than a line of text (in the rare event of a
crash).
I don't dare to imagine what would have become of me when I would
have started this in Word!

 - lyx-files are small and human-readable (ie UNIX-tool-parseable ,-)): 
 long live sed, awk an Perl!)

Compare this to the horrible M$Word-format (which becomes even more
horrible when it gets corrupted during a failed write operation, via 
e.g. a spurious network connection)...


Dirk De Bruyker

K.U.Leuven, dept. Esat-Micas
http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~debruyke

Re: Making a layout for ENTCS

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Reuben It has a slightly unusual requirement: the \author, \address 
Reuben so on commands must go in a special environment:

Reuben \begin{frontmatter} \author{Me} \title{Foo} \address{Bar}
Reuben \end{frontmatter}

I had thoughts some time ago to allow two new tags in layout files,
which by default would be
BeforeTitle 
AfterTitle  \maketitle

In your case, you could use
BeforeTitle \begin{frontmatter}
AfterTitle  \end{frontmatter}

However, I have been convinced that this would just be a hack and not
a clean solution. I do not know if we could work out something that
works for many classes...

JMarc

New from Template Errors and book recommendation ?

[Michelle Dukich]

I am working on the Lyx Tutorial, in particular the
Templates.  I can pull up the various templates listed
under  FILE  New from Template, but only after a pop
up error message that reads:

*__*
Textclass Error:

The document uses an unknown textclass IEEEtran. Lyx
will not be able to produce the output correctly.
*__*

This true for most of the Templates listed.  I am
interested in using a couple of the templates listed
as they have what I want, but because of the error, I
cannot print it, even though I can see the Template
come up on my screen.

Am I missing something?

Also, would someone be willing to make a
recommendation for a Lyx how-to book that is on the
market that might help this very serious newbie?

Many thanks.

Michelle


 


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Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Joao B. Oliveira]

 On Tue, 29 May 2001, Niklas Werner wrote:
 
 In my opinion the stability of a GNU/Linux system + Lyx is a major
 advantage. I'm working on a big document (200 pages, about 100 figures)
 I don't dare to imagine what would have become of me when I would
 have started this in Vord!

Should we talk about the strange phenomena in Vord, such like
changing all formatting information when you open your document
in another place, or mixing up ALL figures suddenly, and they were
all ok just two minutes ago and you changed *nothing*?

  - lyx-files are small and human-readable (ie UNIX-tool-parseable ,-)): 
  long live sed, awk an Perl!)
 
 Compare this to the horrible M$Vord-format (which becomes even more
 horrible when it gets corrupted during a failed write operation, via 
 e.g. a spurious network connection)...

BTW, lyx files are much smaller (lastly, the new table format has
significantly enlarged files, but they are still small.)

Usually you can SEE if something went wrong, and if necessary you
can make a little correction on the lyx files themselves, reading
them again into lyx and working normally. Unusual, but efficient.

For example, two weeks ago I had to insert a small text in about 30
different texts. It was just a matter of writing a ridiculously small
shell script to append the new text into the files, and automatically
open them under LyX for a small correction (if necessary). Do that
with Vord, with all point and click and paste and point again...

j. b. 
Vord was intentionally (and disrespectfully) spelled Vord.

Re: New from Template Errors and book recommendation ?

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
 
 I am working on the Lyx Tutorial, in particular the
 Templates.  I can pull up the various templates listed
 under  FILE  New from Template, but only after a pop
 up error message that reads:
 
 *__*
 Textclass Error:
 
 The document uses an unknown textclass IEEEtran. Lyx
 will not be able to produce the output correctly.
 *__*
 
 This true for most of the Templates listed.  I am
 interested in using a couple of the templates listed
 as they have what I want, but because of the error, I
 cannot print it, even though I can see the Template
 come up on my screen.
 
 Am I missing something?

only some latex-text classes.

do a 
cd ~/.lyx 
and run ./configure and have a look at the output like

+checking for document class IEEEtran [IEEEtran]... yes
+checking for document class ISUthesis [report, isuthesis.sty]...
+checking for document class aapaper [aa]... no
+checking for document class aastex [aastex]... no
...

here are all classes, which are available from LATEX!
otherwise you have to install them in your textree.

Herbert

-- 
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Re: Bibliographic references spilling over into margins

[Dekel Tsur]

On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 04:27:43PM -0700, Ramon Felciano wrote:
 I have noticed that in a few places in my dissertation the references spill
 over into margins instead of breaking and/or wrapping down to the next line.
 For example, the reference [Microsoft Corporation, 1996] will be written in
 block instead of line-breaking between Microsoft and Corporation. This
 is probably partially due to the fact that the reference is defined as
 
 author = {Microsoft Corporation, Inc.}
 
 In order to avoid having Inc be the author name that appears in the
 reference...
 
 I'm using the apalike BibTex format so I can probably work around this by
 switching to a different reference format that uses numbers instead of
 chunks of text for the reference, but I'm hoping there is another way to fix
 this.
 
 Any ideas?

Put \usepackage{apalike} in the preamble.

Re: PROBLEMS with REVTEX on: LyX 1.1.6fix2

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:02:39AM +1000, Peter D Drummond wrote:
 This doesn't help, unfortunately. The `english' option
 still gets added, and this breaks REVTEX. I guess the
 same would occur if I changed to `german' - it seems
 you can't have a `null' option.

One option is to fix the revtex.cls file.
Add the following lines to it:

\DeclareOption{english}{
 \PackageWarning{revtex}{Ignoring LaTeX option \CurrentOption}
}

at the appropriate place (e.g., just before the other \DeclareOption
commands).

 Solution would be if LyX could delete the language
 option when there is no language package chosen. RevTex
 4 will solve the problem RSN, but it would be nice to have backward
 compatibility!!

Another solution is to add one or two of the following lines to
~/.lyx/preferences

\language_use_babel false
\language_global_options false

(return the preferences-languages-language-package to the default)

The first line will cause LyX to not use babel (and not put the english
option) when the language is the default language (english).
The second line will put the language options as arguments to \usepackage
instead as arguments to \documentclass.

Re: xfig documentation and use

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 09:48:47AM +0100, Reuben Thomas wrote:
 It seems that the docs for xfig use have sadly lagged behind reality: you
 can no longer include raw LaTeX, only LyX (presumably you're supposed to
 import the LaTeX document you want to include, save it as LyX, then include
 the LyX document? Seems a bit long-winded).

You can still include .tex files

 
 So now xfig figures are treated as External material. All well and good, a
 nice simple interface, *but* even though I selected LaTeX fonts in my xfig
 diagrams, they are all rendered as Times and Courier (whereas I'm using
 Computer Modern in my LyX document). Is there a way to get the right fonts
 in xfig documents other than using the hack-around of saving my xfig diagram
 as mixed, then pasting in the .pstex_t file directly as ERT or somesuch?

If you want a text in xfig to be replaced by LaTeX, you need to set the
special flag of this text (select the 'edit' button, press on the text, and
change the 'special flag' field).
If you run 'xfig -specialtext' than any newly created text will have the
special flag.

Pre-release 'offical' debs (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2)

[Jules Bean]

[Whoops; misspelt users!]

At http://people.debian.org/~jules/ is the lyx 1.1.6fix2 deb which I
will upload to woody unless people find serious problems with it.

If you have a system with up-to-date enough libraries, please test it
for me.

I.e:

Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-1), libforms0.89, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2,
xlibs ( 4.0.3)


On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +1000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It's good that you put together the deb. However, I still experienced the
 slowness when lyx calls latex from this deb. Do you have this problem on 
 your box with this deb? The only way I can get lyx to run properly (both 1.1.6fix2 
and 1.2.0cvs) is to use gcc-3.0. My locally compiled lyx-1.1.6fix2 
 (with gcc-3.0) works pretty well. You might consider recompile lyx with
 gcc-3.0 to work around the slownes instead of exporting to latex and
 compile by hand.

I don't see this problem locally at all. I'm using gcc 2.95.2-14 and
libstdc++ 2.95.3-6.

Jules

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Re: Export to latex Pb

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Yann Collete wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've just installed lyx-1.1.6fix2 on a debian 2.2 workstation.
 No problem during compilation.
 When I try to export a document to latex, lyx seems to freeze.
 The sentence Running Latex is printed on the console and that's all.
 When I do a ps, I can see a lyx process and some gs processes but no
 latex process.

LyX doesn't freeze, you just need to have lots of patience...
This is a bug in the compiler (or actually, in libstdc++).
We will have a fix for this in 1.1.6fix3.

 Before lyx-1.1.6fix2, I used lyx-1.1.6fix1 and everything was OK.

There shouldn't be a difference between fix1  fix2. Perhaps you updated your
compiler on your machine since you compiled fix1.

Re: Chapters in TOC

[Dekel Tsur]

On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
 There's a feature in latex (I assume, rather than lyx) which I find
 very irritating: if I have a Chapter in my document, then in the table
 of contents there is no dotted line leading to the page number.  Like
 this:
 
 CHAPTER TITLE   2
Section Title ...2
 
 What I would like would be this instead:
 
 CHAPTER TITLE ..2
Section Title ...2
 
 Is there any way to do this?  Or is it a disgusting stylistic no-no
 which all latex-ers would be horrified to discover I am trying to
 circumvent it?

Use the tocloft package.

Re: thanks and pstopdf-question

[Herbert Voss]

Wolfgang Kilian wrote:
 
  Now I have the problem that I have to convert the document into several pdf files 
(each chapter as a separate file). I've started with 'tex2pdf' (latest version) but 
this brings a corrupt 

first choose a break after 75 characters in your mail ...

every chapter starts at a new page, so you can
save them with ghostview in a ps-file (behind
view-ps).
than use ps2pdf your ps-file

in latex use layout-doxument-character font-pslatex.
than you don't need any usepackage in the preamble.

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Changing paragraph definitions

[Michelle Dukich]

Greetings:

As I typed a document using the article TextClass, in
the second subsection the paragraphs started to indent
the first line and to drop the interparagraph spacing.
 

I could not figure out what to do to fix this so I
output the file as LateX and looked at it in emacs.  I
note that before the problem every paragraph was
wrapped in {\raggedright ... \par}.  Furthermore,
there is a \medskip{} before and after all the
preceding paragraphs.  

Why would Lyx stop formating the paragraphs (I have
checked that it is still in article TextClass).  

Thanks in advance for your help.

Michelle

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Re: Changing paragraph definitions

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
 
 I could not figure out what to do to fix this so I
 output the file as LateX and looked at it in emacs.  I
 note that before the problem every paragraph was
 wrapped in {\raggedright ... \par}.  Furthermore,
 there is a \medskip{} before and after all the
 preceding paragraphs.
 
 Why would Lyx stop formating the paragraphs (I have
 checked that it is still in article TextClass).

can you send a short example-file?

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Chapters in TOC

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 10:09:17PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
  There's a feature in latex (I assume, rather than lyx) which I find
  very irritating: if I have a Chapter in my document, then in the table
  of contents there is no dotted line leading to the page number.  Like
  this:
  
  CHAPTER TITLE   2
 Section Title ...2
  
  What I would like would be this instead:
  
  CHAPTER TITLE ..2
 Section Title ...2
  
  Is there any way to do this?  Or is it a disgusting stylistic no-no
  which all latex-ers would be horrified to discover I am trying to
  circumvent it?
 
 Use the tocloft package.

I did.  Plenty of info in the package about how to *remove* dots, change
what's used for the dots, change their spacing... but nothing about how
to add them when they aren't there.

Am I missing something?

Kathryn Andersen
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lyx xfig

[Matias Freytes]

Hello,
I´d like to update my old lyx. Could you please suggest
any stable rpm for redhat 6.2, kernel 2.2.18, Xfree86-3.3.6?
I´ve used xfig for a while. A few days ago I installed a
newer version and I couldnt export eps files any longer. I can
still use dev2ps and related tools, but miss that export option.

Thank you,
Matias.

Re: Languages (was Re: sorting tables?)

[Allan Rae]

On Sun, 27 May 2001, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
[...]
[ Baruch wrote this bit ]
  The implementation as I expect it to be, will not force you to use one
  language over the other, only if you want the official scripts you'll
  need the official language. There is a need however to make the
  scripting language easy enough for as many as users as possible so that
  most of the users will not need to have multiple languages in LyX.

 That's why I'm glad that GIMP now has two scripting languages.  Scheme
 was the official one, but they added the perl module after that.  I
 admit I haven't yet learnt how to script for GIMP, but it's far more
 likely now, because I don't have to learn a whole new language as well
 as learning the GIMP-specific things needed to script GIMP.

 So as for languages that people are likely to know, you've got Lisp (for
 all those emacs-Lisp folks), and Perl, and the next New Thing, Python.
 I don't know about the knowledge-base for Scheme... and I've never heard
 of Icon.

FWIW, a number of Python folk are interested in LyX -- both for personal
use (with python.cls etc.) and as a possible unofficial documenting tool.
Their official documenting tools are a couple of scripts and any text
editor and they aren't about to change that in a hurry.  I know a couple
of people in particular who are Python gurus (one's a Python Team member)
who would love to get their hands dirty in LyX (with Python of course).

Then as a second official language we have Perl.  Maybe this would
encourage Perl mongers to test and maintain the lonely reLyX.  Or we just
let the Python gurus rewrite reLyX in Python ;-)   Python is supposed to
be faster than Perl anyway :P

Anyway, past discussions have usually ended up with Python as best because
it's readable/writable even for newbies.  Scheme/Lisp usually dropped as a
bad idea because no-one cares to type all the ()'s and Perl as a possible
second language.

Allan. (ARRae)

hello

[Don Paul]

hello

Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 EagleIce == EagleIce  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

EagleIce Will we be informed to this list when and where we
EagleIce eventually can download the package?

Yes, however, Tortsten found out that the RH packages work well for
him, so we are not sure whether the Suse packages are really needed...
Of course, if it turns out they are needed, I'll upload them and tell
the list about it.

JMarc

xfig documentation and use

[Reuben Thomas]

It seems that the docs for xfig use have sadly lagged behind reality: you
can no longer include raw LaTeX, only LyX (presumably you're supposed to
import the LaTeX document you want to include, save it as LyX, then include
the LyX document? Seems a bit long-winded).

So now xfig figures are treated as External material. All well and good, a
nice simple interface, *but* even though I selected LaTeX fonts in my xfig
diagrams, they are all rendered as Times and Courier (whereas I'm using
Computer Modern in my LyX document). Is there a way to get the right fonts
in xfig documents other than using the hack-around of saving my xfig diagram
as mixed, then pasting in the .pstex_t file directly as ERT or somesuch?

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[michelleDukich@yahoo.com] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Can somebody help Michelle?

JMarc

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MichelleDukich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Please help me again.  I am trying to add footers to my document.  
I am in the STANDARD mode.
According to the doc/Extended.lys info, section 1.7, 
I only need to LayTex Preamble from the Insert Menu option and type:

\lfoot{My Paper Title}
\rfoot{Page \thepage}

When I View in DVI, I get 3 errors.  It says my top line was und'fd.
I have put no other info into the Preamble, but Lyx did. 

Part II of this is can and how do I get a SECOND line of footers?
I am assuming something like  \rfoot2  and \lfoot2 ??

Many thanks in advance.

Michelle

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Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[EagleIce]

On Tuesday 29 May 2001 12:24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Guenter == Guenter Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Guenter I used the RH package as well, and it works with my SuSE 6.4
 Guenter system.

 Good.

 Guenter Maybe we could check this and then possibly drop the native
 Guenter SuSE rpm-s (plus tell the user that the ones provided work
 Guenter for both RH and SuSE).

 Yes. I have no possibility to check that myself, so I will to what you
 (and other suse users) say we should do.

 JMarc
OK, I'll download the rpm and check if it works on my SuSE 7.1, I will also 
check later on if it works on my Caldera eDesktop 2.4 at work (warn me 
someone if you know it doesn't work).
But what is this: lyxgdb-1.1.6fix2-1.i386.rpm?

Cheers,

ei


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Re: [michelleDukich@yahoo.com] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Herbert Voss]

 MichelleDukich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the
 following feedback message on the LyX home page:
 

 Please help me again.  I am trying to add footers to my document.
 I am in the STANDARD mode.
 According to the doc/Extended.lys info, section 1.7,
 I only need to LayTex Preamble from the Insert Menu option and type:

 \lfoot{My Paper Title}
 \rfoot{Page \thepage}

do you have
layout-document-pagestyle-fancy

HErbert

[mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

OK, LyX users, could you tell Mike why you are LyX users? ;)

JMarc

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Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
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Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Some of the pictures (the bigger ones) you get when clicking on the thumbnails in the 
graphical tour are broken.
**
As someone who was force-fed MS Word and is trying the transition to Sun StarOffice, 
why should I want LyX?
I've heard some people on BBS-es saying it's incredible/very good, but does it do 
something better/easier?
Is it just for people needing an extensive amount of math-graphics/graphs?
Would my grandma like it instead of Word? (Damn, Word is always placing these 
pictures where I didn't put them!)


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Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 EagleIce == EagleIce  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

EagleIce OK, I'll download the rpm and check if it works on my SuSE
EagleIce 7.1, I will also check later on if it works on my Caldera
EagleIce eDesktop 2.4 at work (warn me someone if you know it doesn't
EagleIce work). But what is this: lyxgdb-1.1.6fix2-1.i386.rpm?

This one is an unstripped binary to be used to get useful gdb
backtraces to report bugs. 

JMarc

equation_numbering

[Andreas Rau]

Hi,

simple question, but I am in quite a hurry (as probably many of us):

The UsersGuide states that each line of a multiline equation is numbered
separately by default. However, I only get one number vertically
centered for the multiple lines. 
How to get the default behavior, so I can toggle the numbering of
specific lines on and off?

Thanx for your help
Andreas
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Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Pierre.Chretien]

OK, LyX users, could you tell Mike why you are LyX users? ;)

JMarc

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:16:02 +0200
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Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Some of the pictures (the bigger ones) you get when clicking on the thumbnails 
in the graphical tour are broken.
**
As someone who was force-fed MS Word and is trying the transition to Sun 
StarOffice, why should I want LyX?
I've heard some people on BBS-es saying it's incredible/very good, but does it 
do something better/easier?
Is it just for people needing an extensive amount of math-graphics/graphs?

Among others...

 - no difference between the desired document structure and the
 really printed stuff (i.e. a section title IS a section title, not
 a set of local font, family, size, etc. settings); it is possible to use
 styles in Word or StarOffice, but it is also possible not to do so;
 - leave all the (section-like) style hacking to the local of foreign gurus;
 - have a presentation layer (dvi, ps, pdf, html, etc.) highly customizable;
 - ...
 
Would my grandma like it instead of Word? (Damn, Word is always placing these 
pictures where I didn't put them!)

Same questions with LyX/LaTeX, the difference is that you are able to know
how the placment algorithm works, and act in consequence...

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Making a layout for ENTCS

[Herbert Voss]

Reuben Thomas wrote:
 
 I am currently writing a paper using entcs.cls (Elsevier's Electronic Notes
 in Theoretical Computer Science style).
 
 It has a slightly unusual requirement: the \author, \address  so on
 commands must go in a special environment:
 
 \begin{frontmatter}
 \author{Me}
 \title{Foo}
 \address{Bar}
 \end{frontmatter}
 
 I'm developing entcs.layout, based on article.layout, as I go, and most of
 the features are fairly clear to implement, but I can't see how to do this
 one. Glancing at the other standard layout files, I can't see that any of
 them has this problem either.

maybe that this works. i can't try, because i don't have
the entcs.cls.

in your entcls-layout file:

Preamble
  \let\myMaketitle\maketitle
  \renewcommand\maketitle{%
\begin{frontmatter}
\myMaketitle
\end{frontmatter}%
  }
EndPreamble


Herbert

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Re: equation_numbering

[Andreas Rau]

Herbert Voss wrote:
 Andreas Rau wrote:
  simple question, but I am in quite a hurry (as probably many of us):
 
  The UsersGuide states that each line of a multiline equation is numbered
  separately by default. However, I only get one number vertically
  centered for the multiple lines.
  How to get the default behavior, so I can toggle the numbering of
  specific lines on and off?
 
 do you get the rows with ctrl-enter oder with inserting
 a mtrix?

I got the rows with Ctrl-Enter. Just tried the matrix way, but it didn't
change anything.

  The defunc multiline equations are in the appendix and besides the
  line-by-line numbering I am struggling with another weird problem: I   get
  an extra word 'Appendix' in the TOC, in the labels, in cross-refs. For 
example, an equation label looks like
  
  
  equation  (Appendix A.1)
  
  instead of
  
  equation  (A.1)
 
 what class?
 how do you start the appendix and what additional commands
 like addcontentsline... do you have?

it is the koma-script (book) class. I've bothered you with the appendix
problem before. That's when you gave me the 'myLabelWidth' hint below,
in order to prevent the words from overlapping in the TOC. The
overlapping was/is caused by this annoying extra 'Appendix' everywhere.

Right now my appendix starts with (plus some fancy 'myLabelWidth' code
in the preamble):

\begin{appendix}
\addcontents{toc}{\addtolength{\myLabelWidth}{5em}}
.
\end{appendix}

Thanx for your efforts,
Andreas

(BTW, nice new layout of your LyX(Latex)-Tips webpage,Herbert!)

Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Dirk De Bruyker]

On Tue, 29 May 2001, Niklas Werner wrote:

 - Even if LyX crashes you still will at most have lost a word or two!

In my opinion the stability of a GNU/Linux system + Lyx is a major
advantage. I'm working on a big document (200 pages, about 100 figures)
and indeed never lost more than a line of text (in the rare event of a
crash).
I don't dare to imagine what would have become of me when I would
have started this in Word!

 - lyx-files are small and human-readable (ie UNIX-tool-parseable ,-)): 
 long live sed, awk an Perl!)

Compare this to the horrible M$Word-format (which becomes even more
horrible when it gets corrupted during a failed write operation, via 
e.g. a spurious network connection)...


Dirk De Bruyker

K.U.Leuven, dept. Esat-Micas
http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~debruyke

Re: Making a layout for ENTCS

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Reuben It has a slightly unusual requirement: the \author, \address 
Reuben so on commands must go in a special environment:

Reuben \begin{frontmatter} \author{Me} \title{Foo} \address{Bar}
Reuben \end{frontmatter}

I had thoughts some time ago to allow two new tags in layout files,
which by default would be
BeforeTitle 
AfterTitle  \maketitle

In your case, you could use
BeforeTitle \begin{frontmatter}
AfterTitle  \end{frontmatter}

However, I have been convinced that this would just be a hack and not
a clean solution. I do not know if we could work out something that
works for many classes...

JMarc

New from Template Errors and book recommendation ?

[Michelle Dukich]

I am working on the Lyx Tutorial, in particular the
Templates.  I can pull up the various templates listed
under  FILE  New from Template, but only after a pop
up error message that reads:

*__*
Textclass Error:

The document uses an unknown textclass IEEEtran. Lyx
will not be able to produce the output correctly.
*__*

This true for most of the Templates listed.  I am
interested in using a couple of the templates listed
as they have what I want, but because of the error, I
cannot print it, even though I can see the Template
come up on my screen.

Am I missing something?

Also, would someone be willing to make a
recommendation for a Lyx how-to book that is on the
market that might help this very serious newbie?

Many thanks.

Michelle


 


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Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Joao B. Oliveira]

 On Tue, 29 May 2001, Niklas Werner wrote:
 
 In my opinion the stability of a GNU/Linux system + Lyx is a major
 advantage. I'm working on a big document (200 pages, about 100 figures)
 I don't dare to imagine what would have become of me when I would
 have started this in Vord!

Should we talk about the strange phenomena in Vord, such like
changing all formatting information when you open your document
in another place, or mixing up ALL figures suddenly, and they were
all ok just two minutes ago and you changed *nothing*?

  - lyx-files are small and human-readable (ie UNIX-tool-parseable ,-)): 
  long live sed, awk an Perl!)
 
 Compare this to the horrible M$Vord-format (which becomes even more
 horrible when it gets corrupted during a failed write operation, via 
 e.g. a spurious network connection)...

BTW, lyx files are much smaller (lastly, the new table format has
significantly enlarged files, but they are still small.)

Usually you can SEE if something went wrong, and if necessary you
can make a little correction on the lyx files themselves, reading
them again into lyx and working normally. Unusual, but efficient.

For example, two weeks ago I had to insert a small text in about 30
different texts. It was just a matter of writing a ridiculously small
shell script to append the new text into the files, and automatically
open them under LyX for a small correction (if necessary). Do that
with Vord, with all point and click and paste and point again...

j. b. 
Vord was intentionally (and disrespectfully) spelled Vord.

Re: New from Template Errors and book recommendation ?

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
 
 I am working on the Lyx Tutorial, in particular the
 Templates.  I can pull up the various templates listed
 under  FILE  New from Template, but only after a pop
 up error message that reads:
 
 *__*
 Textclass Error:
 
 The document uses an unknown textclass IEEEtran. Lyx
 will not be able to produce the output correctly.
 *__*
 
 This true for most of the Templates listed.  I am
 interested in using a couple of the templates listed
 as they have what I want, but because of the error, I
 cannot print it, even though I can see the Template
 come up on my screen.
 
 Am I missing something?

only some latex-text classes.

do a 
cd ~/.lyx 
and run ./configure and have a look at the output like

+checking for document class IEEEtran [IEEEtran]... yes
+checking for document class ISUthesis [report, isuthesis.sty]...
+checking for document class aapaper [aa]... no
+checking for document class aastex [aastex]... no
...

here are all classes, which are available from LATEX!
otherwise you have to install them in your textree.

Herbert

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Re: Bibliographic references spilling over into margins

[Dekel Tsur]

On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 04:27:43PM -0700, Ramon Felciano wrote:
 I have noticed that in a few places in my dissertation the references spill
 over into margins instead of breaking and/or wrapping down to the next line.
 For example, the reference [Microsoft Corporation, 1996] will be written in
 block instead of line-breaking between Microsoft and Corporation. This
 is probably partially due to the fact that the reference is defined as
 
 author = {Microsoft Corporation, Inc.}
 
 In order to avoid having Inc be the author name that appears in the
 reference...
 
 I'm using the apalike BibTex format so I can probably work around this by
 switching to a different reference format that uses numbers instead of
 chunks of text for the reference, but I'm hoping there is another way to fix
 this.
 
 Any ideas?

Put \usepackage{apalike} in the preamble.

Re: PROBLEMS with REVTEX on: LyX 1.1.6fix2

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:02:39AM +1000, Peter D Drummond wrote:
 This doesn't help, unfortunately. The `english' option
 still gets added, and this breaks REVTEX. I guess the
 same would occur if I changed to `german' - it seems
 you can't have a `null' option.

One option is to fix the revtex.cls file.
Add the following lines to it:

\DeclareOption{english}{
 \PackageWarning{revtex}{Ignoring LaTeX option \CurrentOption}
}

at the appropriate place (e.g., just before the other \DeclareOption
commands).

 Solution would be if LyX could delete the language
 option when there is no language package chosen. RevTex
 4 will solve the problem RSN, but it would be nice to have backward
 compatibility!!

Another solution is to add one or two of the following lines to
~/.lyx/preferences

\language_use_babel false
\language_global_options false

(return the preferences-languages-language-package to the default)

The first line will cause LyX to not use babel (and not put the english
option) when the language is the default language (english).
The second line will put the language options as arguments to \usepackage
instead as arguments to \documentclass.

Re: xfig documentation and use

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 09:48:47AM +0100, Reuben Thomas wrote:
 It seems that the docs for xfig use have sadly lagged behind reality: you
 can no longer include raw LaTeX, only LyX (presumably you're supposed to
 import the LaTeX document you want to include, save it as LyX, then include
 the LyX document? Seems a bit long-winded).

You can still include .tex files

 
 So now xfig figures are treated as External material. All well and good, a
 nice simple interface, *but* even though I selected LaTeX fonts in my xfig
 diagrams, they are all rendered as Times and Courier (whereas I'm using
 Computer Modern in my LyX document). Is there a way to get the right fonts
 in xfig documents other than using the hack-around of saving my xfig diagram
 as mixed, then pasting in the .pstex_t file directly as ERT or somesuch?

If you want a text in xfig to be replaced by LaTeX, you need to set the
special flag of this text (select the 'edit' button, press on the text, and
change the 'special flag' field).
If you run 'xfig -specialtext' than any newly created text will have the
special flag.

Pre-release 'offical' debs (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2)

[Jules Bean]

[Whoops; misspelt users!]

At http://people.debian.org/~jules/ is the lyx 1.1.6fix2 deb which I
will upload to woody unless people find serious problems with it.

If you have a system with up-to-date enough libraries, please test it
for me.

I.e:

Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-1), libforms0.89, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2,
xlibs ( 4.0.3)


On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +1000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It's good that you put together the deb. However, I still experienced the
 slowness when lyx calls latex from this deb. Do you have this problem on 
 your box with this deb? The only way I can get lyx to run properly (both 1.1.6fix2 
and 1.2.0cvs) is to use gcc-3.0. My locally compiled lyx-1.1.6fix2 
 (with gcc-3.0) works pretty well. You might consider recompile lyx with
 gcc-3.0 to work around the slownes instead of exporting to latex and
 compile by hand.

I don't see this problem locally at all. I'm using gcc 2.95.2-14 and
libstdc++ 2.95.3-6.

Jules

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Re: Export to latex Pb

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Yann Collete wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've just installed lyx-1.1.6fix2 on a debian 2.2 workstation.
 No problem during compilation.
 When I try to export a document to latex, lyx seems to freeze.
 The sentence Running Latex is printed on the console and that's all.
 When I do a ps, I can see a lyx process and some gs processes but no
 latex process.

LyX doesn't freeze, you just need to have lots of patience...
This is a bug in the compiler (or actually, in libstdc++).
We will have a fix for this in 1.1.6fix3.

 Before lyx-1.1.6fix2, I used lyx-1.1.6fix1 and everything was OK.

There shouldn't be a difference between fix1  fix2. Perhaps you updated your
compiler on your machine since you compiled fix1.

Re: Chapters in TOC

[Dekel Tsur]

On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
 There's a feature in latex (I assume, rather than lyx) which I find
 very irritating: if I have a Chapter in my document, then in the table
 of contents there is no dotted line leading to the page number.  Like
 this:
 
 CHAPTER TITLE   2
Section Title ...2
 
 What I would like would be this instead:
 
 CHAPTER TITLE ..2
Section Title ...2
 
 Is there any way to do this?  Or is it a disgusting stylistic no-no
 which all latex-ers would be horrified to discover I am trying to
 circumvent it?

Use the tocloft package.

Re: thanks and pstopdf-question

[Herbert Voss]

Wolfgang Kilian wrote:
 
  Now I have the problem that I have to convert the document into several pdf files 
(each chapter as a separate file). I've started with 'tex2pdf' (latest version) but 
this brings a corrupt 

first choose a break after 75 characters in your mail ...

every chapter starts at a new page, so you can
save them with ghostview in a ps-file (behind
view-ps).
than use ps2pdf your ps-file

in latex use layout-doxument-character font-pslatex.
than you don't need any usepackage in the preamble.

Herbert

-- 
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Changing paragraph definitions

[Michelle Dukich]

Greetings:

As I typed a document using the article TextClass, in
the second subsection the paragraphs started to indent
the first line and to drop the interparagraph spacing.
 

I could not figure out what to do to fix this so I
output the file as LateX and looked at it in emacs.  I
note that before the problem every paragraph was
wrapped in {\raggedright ... \par}.  Furthermore,
there is a \medskip{} before and after all the
preceding paragraphs.  

Why would Lyx stop formating the paragraphs (I have
checked that it is still in article TextClass).  

Thanks in advance for your help.

Michelle

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Re: Changing paragraph definitions

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
 
 I could not figure out what to do to fix this so I
 output the file as LateX and looked at it in emacs.  I
 note that before the problem every paragraph was
 wrapped in {\raggedright ... \par}.  Furthermore,
 there is a \medskip{} before and after all the
 preceding paragraphs.
 
 Why would Lyx stop formating the paragraphs (I have
 checked that it is still in article TextClass).

can you send a short example-file?

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Chapters in TOC

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 10:09:17PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
  There's a feature in latex (I assume, rather than lyx) which I find
  very irritating: if I have a Chapter in my document, then in the table
  of contents there is no dotted line leading to the page number.  Like
  this:
  
  CHAPTER TITLE   2
 Section Title ...2
  
  What I would like would be this instead:
  
  CHAPTER TITLE ..2
 Section Title ...2
  
  Is there any way to do this?  Or is it a disgusting stylistic no-no
  which all latex-ers would be horrified to discover I am trying to
  circumvent it?
 
 Use the tocloft package.

I did.  Plenty of info in the package about how to *remove* dots, change
what's used for the dots, change their spacing... but nothing about how
to add them when they aren't there.

Am I missing something?

Kathryn Andersen
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lyx xfig

[Matias Freytes]

Hello,
I´d like to update my old lyx. Could you please suggest
any stable rpm for redhat 6.2, kernel 2.2.18, Xfree86-3.3.6?
I´ve used xfig for a while. A few days ago I installed a
newer version and I couldnt export eps files any longer. I can
still use dev2ps and related tools, but miss that export option.

Thank you,
Matias.

Re: Languages (was Re: sorting tables?)

[Allan Rae]

On Sun, 27 May 2001, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
[...]
[ Baruch wrote this bit ]
  The implementation as I expect it to be, will not force you to use one
  language over the other, only if you want the official scripts you'll
  need the official language. There is a need however to make the
  scripting language easy enough for as many as users as possible so that
  most of the users will not need to have multiple languages in LyX.

 That's why I'm glad that GIMP now has two scripting languages.  Scheme
 was the official one, but they added the perl module after that.  I
 admit I haven't yet learnt how to script for GIMP, but it's far more
 likely now, because I don't have to learn a whole new language as well
 as learning the GIMP-specific things needed to script GIMP.

 So as for languages that people are likely to know, you've got Lisp (for
 all those emacs-Lisp folks), and Perl, and the next New Thing, Python.
 I don't know about the knowledge-base for Scheme... and I've never heard
 of Icon.

FWIW, a number of Python folk are interested in LyX -- both for personal
use (with python.cls etc.) and as a possible unofficial documenting tool.
Their official documenting tools are a couple of scripts and any text
editor and they aren't about to change that in a hurry.  I know a couple
of people in particular who are Python gurus (one's a Python Team member)
who would love to get their hands dirty in LyX (with Python of course).

Then as a second official language we have Perl.  Maybe this would
encourage Perl mongers to test and maintain the lonely reLyX.  Or we just
let the Python gurus rewrite reLyX in Python ;-)   Python is supposed to
be faster than Perl anyway :P

Anyway, past discussions have usually ended up with Python as best because
it's readable/writable even for newbies.  Scheme/Lisp usually dropped as a
bad idea because no-one cares to type all the ()'s and Perl as a possible
second language.

Allan. (ARRae)

hello

[Don Paul]

hello

Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "EagleIce" == EagleIce  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

EagleIce> Will we be informed to this list when and where we
EagleIce> eventually can download the package?

Yes, however, Tortsten found out that the RH packages work well for
him, so we are not sure whether the Suse packages are really needed...
Of course, if it turns out they are needed, I'll upload them and tell
the list about it.

JMarc

xfig documentation and use

[Reuben Thomas]

It seems that the docs for xfig use have sadly lagged behind reality: you
can no longer include raw LaTeX, only LyX (presumably you're supposed to
import the LaTeX document you want to include, save it as LyX, then include
the LyX document? Seems a bit long-winded).

So now xfig figures are treated as "External material". All well and good, a
nice simple interface, *but* even though I selected LaTeX fonts in my xfig
diagrams, they are all rendered as Times and Courier (whereas I'm using
Computer Modern in my LyX document). Is there a way to get the right fonts
in xfig documents other than using the hack-around of saving my xfig diagram
as mixed, then pasting in the .pstex_t file directly as ERT or somesuch?

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[michelleDukich@yahoo.com] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Can somebody help Michelle?

JMarc

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:23:34 +0200
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Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


MichelleDukich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Please help me again.  I am trying to add footers to my document.  
I am in the STANDARD mode.
According to the doc/Extended.lys info, section 1.7, 
I only need to LayTex Preamble from the Insert Menu option and type:

\lfoot{My Paper Title}
\rfoot{Page \thepage}

When I View in DVI, I get 3 errors.  It says my top line was und'fd.
I have put no other info into the Preamble, but Lyx did. 

Part II of this is can and how do I get a SECOND line of footers?
I am assuming something like  \rfoot2  and \lfoot2 ??

Many thanks in advance.

Michelle

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Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[EagleIce]

On Tuesday 29 May 2001 12:24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Guenter" == Guenter Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Guenter> I used the RH package as well, and it works with my SuSE 6.4
> Guenter> system.
>
> Good.
>
> Guenter> Maybe we could check this and then possibly drop the "native
> Guenter> SuSE" rpm-s (plus tell the user that the ones provided work
> Guenter> for both RH and SuSE).
>
> Yes. I have no possibility to check that myself, so I will to what you
> (and other suse users) say we should do.
>
> JMarc
OK, I'll download the rpm and check if it works on my SuSE 7.1, I will also 
check later on if it works on my Caldera eDesktop 2.4 at work (warn me 
someone if you know it doesn't work).
But what is this: lyxgdb-1.1.6fix2-1.i386.rpm?

Cheers,

ei


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Re: [michelleDukich@yahoo.com] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Herbert Voss]

> MichelleDukich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the
> following feedback message on the LyX home page:
> 
>
> Please help me again.  I am trying to add footers to my document.
> I am in the STANDARD mode.
> According to the doc/Extended.lys info, section 1.7,
> I only need to LayTex Preamble from the Insert Menu option and type:
>
> \lfoot{My Paper Title}
> \rfoot{Page \thepage}
>
do you have
layout->document->pagestyle->fancy

HErbert

[mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

OK, LyX users, could you tell Mike why you are LyX users? ;)

JMarc

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Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
following feedback message on the LyX home page:


Some of the pictures (the bigger ones) you get when clicking on the thumbnails in the 
graphical tour are broken.
**
As someone who was force-fed MS Word and is trying the transition to Sun StarOffice, 
why should I want LyX?
I've heard some people on BBS-es saying it's incredible/very good, but does it do 
something better/easier?
Is it just for people needing an extensive amount of math-graphics/graphs?
Would my grandma like it instead of Word? ("Damn, Word is always placing these 
pictures where I didn't put them!")


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Re: Lyx 1.1.6-fix2 RPM's for SUSE 7.1

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "EagleIce" == EagleIce  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

EagleIce> OK, I'll download the rpm and check if it works on my SuSE
EagleIce> 7.1, I will also check later on if it works on my Caldera
EagleIce> eDesktop 2.4 at work (warn me someone if you know it doesn't
EagleIce> work). But what is this: lyxgdb-1.1.6fix2-1.i386.rpm?

This one is an unstripped binary to be used to get useful gdb
backtraces to report bugs. 

JMarc

equation_numbering

[Andreas Rau]

Hi,

simple question, but I am in quite a hurry (as probably many of us):

The UsersGuide states that each line of a multiline equation is numbered
separately by default. However, I only get one number vertically
centered for the multiple lines. 
How to get the default behavior, so I can toggle the numbering of
specific lines on and off?

Thanx for your help
Andreas
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Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Jean-Pierre.Chretien]

>>
>>
>>OK, LyX users, could you tell Mike why you are LyX users? ;)
>>
>>JMarc
>>
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>>Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:16:02 +0200
>>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org
>>FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the 
>>following feedback message on the LyX home page:
>>
>>
>>Some of the pictures (the bigger ones) you get when clicking on the thumbnails 
in the graphical tour are broken.
>>**
>>As someone who was force-fed MS Word and is trying the transition to Sun 
StarOffice, why should I want LyX?
>>I've heard some people on BBS-es saying it's incredible/very good, but does it 
do something better/easier?
>>Is it just for people needing an extensive amount of math-graphics/graphs?

Among others...

 - no difference between the desired document structure and the
 really printed stuff (i.e. a section title IS a section title, not
 a set of local font, family, size, etc. settings); it is possible to use
 styles in Word or StarOffice, but it is also possible not to do so;
 - leave all the (section-like) style hacking to the local of foreign gurus;
 - have a presentation layer (dvi, ps, pdf, html, etc.) highly customizable;
 - ...
 
>>Would my grandma like it instead of Word? ("Damn, Word is always placing these 
pictures where I didn't put them!")

Same questions with LyX/LaTeX, the difference is that you are able to know
how the placment algorithm works, and act in consequence...

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Making a layout for ENTCS

[Herbert Voss]

Reuben Thomas wrote:
> 
> I am currently writing a paper using entcs.cls (Elsevier's Electronic Notes
> in Theoretical Computer Science style).
> 
> It has a slightly unusual requirement: the \author, \address & so on
> commands must go in a special environment:
> 
> \begin{frontmatter}
> \author{Me}
> \title{Foo}
> \address{Bar}
> \end{frontmatter}
> 
> I'm developing entcs.layout, based on article.layout, as I go, and most of
> the features are fairly clear to implement, but I can't see how to do this
> one. Glancing at the other standard layout files, I can't see that any of
> them has this problem either.

maybe that this works. i can't try, because i don't have
the entcs.cls.

in your entcls-layout file:

Preamble
  \let\myMaketitle\maketitle
  \renewcommand\maketitle{%
\begin{frontmatter}
\myMaketitle
\end{frontmatter}%
  }
EndPreamble


Herbert

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Re: equation_numbering

[Andreas Rau]

Herbert Voss wrote:
> Andreas Rau wrote:
> > simple question, but I am in quite a hurry (as probably many of us):
> >
> > The UsersGuide states that each line of a multiline equation is numbered
> > separately by default. However, I only get one number vertically
> > centered for the multiple lines.
> > How to get the default behavior, so I can toggle the numbering of
> > specific lines on and off?
> 
> do you get the rows with ctrl-enter oder with inserting
> a mtrix?

I got the rows with Ctrl-Enter. Just tried the matrix way, but it didn't
change anything.

> > The defunc multiline equations are in the appendix and besides the
> > line-by-line numbering I am struggling with another weird problem: I > > get
> > an extra word 'Appendix' in the TOC, in the labels, in cross-refs.   > > For 
>example, an equation label looks like
> > 
> > 
> >   (Appendix A.1)
> > 
> > instead of
> > 
> >   (A.1)
> 
> what class?
> how do you start the appendix and what additional commands
> like addcontentsline... do you have?

it is the koma-script (book) class. I've bothered you with the appendix
problem before. That's when you gave me the 'myLabelWidth' hint below,
in order to prevent the words from overlapping in the TOC. The
overlapping was/is caused by this annoying extra 'Appendix' everywhere.

Right now my appendix starts with (plus some fancy 'myLabelWidth' code
in the preamble):

\begin{appendix}
\addcontents{toc}{\addtolength{\myLabelWidth}{5em}}
.
\end{appendix}

Thanx for your efforts,
Andreas

(BTW, nice new layout of your LyX(Latex)-Tips webpage,Herbert!)

Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Dirk De Bruyker]

On Tue, 29 May 2001, Niklas Werner wrote:

> - Even if LyX crashes you still will at most have lost a word or two!

In my opinion the stability of a GNU/Linux system + Lyx is a major
advantage. I'm working on a big document (>200 pages, about 100 figures)
and indeed never lost more than a line of text (in the rare event of a
crash).
I don't dare to imagine what would have become of me when I would
have started this in Word!

> - lyx-files are small and human-readable (ie UNIX-tool-parseable ,-)): 
> long live sed, awk an Perl!)

Compare this to the horrible M$Word-format (which becomes even more
horrible when it gets corrupted during a failed write operation, via 
e.g. a spurious network connection)...


Dirk De Bruyker

K.U.Leuven, dept. Esat-Micas
http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~debruyke

Re: Making a layout for ENTCS

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Reuben" == Reuben Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Reuben> It has a slightly unusual requirement: the \author, \address &
Reuben> so on commands must go in a special environment:

Reuben> \begin{frontmatter} \author{Me} \title{Foo} \address{Bar}
Reuben> \end{frontmatter}

I had thoughts some time ago to allow two new tags in layout files,
which by default would be
BeforeTitle ""
AfterTitle  "\maketitle"

In your case, you could use
BeforeTitle "\begin{frontmatter}"
AfterTitle  "\end{frontmatter}"

However, I have been convinced that this would just be a hack and not
a clean solution. I do not know if we could work out something that
works for many classes...

JMarc

New from Template Errors and book recommendation ?

[Michelle Dukich]

I am working on the Lyx Tutorial, in particular the
Templates.  I can pull up the various templates listed
under  FILE > New from Template, but only after a pop
up error message that reads:

*__*
Textclass Error:

The document uses an unknown textclass "IEEEtran". Lyx
will not be able to produce the output correctly.
*__*

This true for most of the Templates listed.  I am
interested in using a couple of the templates listed
as they have what I want, but because of the error, I
cannot print it, even though I can see the Template
come up on my screen.

Am I missing something?

Also, would someone be willing to make a
recommendation for a Lyx how-to book that is on the
market that might help this very serious newbie?

Many thanks.

Michelle


 


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Re: [mbmarduk@lycos.nl] Feedback from www.lyx.org

[Joao B. Oliveira]

> On Tue, 29 May 2001, Niklas Werner wrote:
> 
> In my opinion the stability of a GNU/Linux system + Lyx is a major
> advantage. I'm working on a big document (>200 pages, about 100 figures)
> I don't dare to imagine what would have become of me when I would
> have started this in Vord!

Should we talk about the strange phenomena in Vord, such like
changing all formatting information when you open your document
in another place, or mixing up ALL figures suddenly, and they were
all ok just two minutes ago and you changed *nothing*?

> > - lyx-files are small and human-readable (ie UNIX-tool-parseable ,-)): 
> > long live sed, awk an Perl!)
> 
> Compare this to the horrible M$Vord-format (which becomes even more
> horrible when it gets corrupted during a failed write operation, via 
> e.g. a spurious network connection)...

BTW, lyx files are much smaller (lastly, the new table format has
significantly enlarged files, but they are still small.)

Usually you can SEE if something went wrong, and if necessary you
can make a little correction on the lyx files themselves, reading
them again into lyx and working normally. Unusual, but efficient.

For example, two weeks ago I had to insert a small text in about 30
different texts. It was just a matter of writing a ridiculously small
shell script to append the new text into the files, and automatically
open them under LyX for a small correction (if necessary). Do that
with Vord, with all point and click and paste and point again...

j. b. 
Vord was intentionally (and disrespectfully) spelled Vord.

Re: New from Template Errors and book recommendation ?

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
> 
> I am working on the Lyx Tutorial, in particular the
> Templates.  I can pull up the various templates listed
> under  FILE > New from Template, but only after a pop
> up error message that reads:
> 
> *__*
> Textclass Error:
> 
> The document uses an unknown textclass "IEEEtran". Lyx
> will not be able to produce the output correctly.
> *__*
> 
> This true for most of the Templates listed.  I am
> interested in using a couple of the templates listed
> as they have what I want, but because of the error, I
> cannot print it, even though I can see the Template
> come up on my screen.
> 
> Am I missing something?

only some latex-text classes.

do a 
cd ~/.lyx 
and run ./configure and have a look at the output like

+checking for document class IEEEtran [IEEEtran]... yes
+checking for document class ISUthesis [report, isuthesis.sty]...
+checking for document class aapaper [aa]... no
+checking for document class aastex [aastex]... no
...

here are all classes, which are available from LATEX!
otherwise you have to install them in your textree.

Herbert

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Re: Bibliographic references spilling over into margins

[Dekel Tsur]

On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 04:27:43PM -0700, Ramon Felciano wrote:
> I have noticed that in a few places in my dissertation the references spill
> over into margins instead of breaking and/or wrapping down to the next line.
> For example, the reference [Microsoft Corporation, 1996] will be written in
> block instead of line-breaking between "Microsoft" and "Corporation". This
> is probably partially due to the fact that the reference is defined as
> 
> author = "{Microsoft Corporation, Inc.}"
> 
> In order to avoid having "Inc" be the author name that appears in the
> reference...
> 
> I'm using the apalike BibTex format so I can probably work around this by
> switching to a different reference format that uses numbers instead of
> chunks of text for the reference, but I'm hoping there is another way to fix
> this.
> 
> Any ideas?

Put \usepackage{apalike} in the preamble.

Re: PROBLEMS with REVTEX on: LyX 1.1.6fix2

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:02:39AM +1000, Peter D Drummond wrote:
> This doesn't help, unfortunately. The `english' option
> still gets added, and this breaks REVTEX. I guess the
> same would occur if I changed to `german' - it seems
> you can't have a `null' option.

One option is to fix the revtex.cls file.
Add the following lines to it:

\DeclareOption{english}{
 \PackageWarning{revtex}{Ignoring LaTeX option \CurrentOption}
}

at the appropriate place (e.g., just before the other \DeclareOption
commands).

> Solution would be if LyX could delete the language
> option when there is no language package chosen. RevTex
> 4 will solve the problem RSN, but it would be nice to have backward
> compatibility!!

Another solution is to add one or two of the following lines to
~/.lyx/preferences

\language_use_babel "false"
\language_global_options "false"

(return the preferences->languages->language->package to the default)

The first line will cause LyX to not use babel (and not put the english
option) when the language is the default language (english).
The second line will put the language options as arguments to \usepackage
instead as arguments to \documentclass.

Re: xfig documentation and use

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 09:48:47AM +0100, Reuben Thomas wrote:
> It seems that the docs for xfig use have sadly lagged behind reality: you
> can no longer include raw LaTeX, only LyX (presumably you're supposed to
> import the LaTeX document you want to include, save it as LyX, then include
> the LyX document? Seems a bit long-winded).

You can still include .tex files

> 
> So now xfig figures are treated as "External material". All well and good, a
> nice simple interface, *but* even though I selected LaTeX fonts in my xfig
> diagrams, they are all rendered as Times and Courier (whereas I'm using
> Computer Modern in my LyX document). Is there a way to get the right fonts
> in xfig documents other than using the hack-around of saving my xfig diagram
> as mixed, then pasting in the .pstex_t file directly as ERT or somesuch?

If you want a text in xfig to be replaced by LaTeX, you need to set the
special flag of this text (select the 'edit' button, press on the text, and
change the 'special flag' field).
If you run 'xfig -specialtext' than any newly created text will have the
special flag.

Pre-release 'offical' debs (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2)

[Jules Bean]

[Whoops; misspelt users!]

At http://people.debian.org/~jules/ is the lyx 1.1.6fix2 deb which I
will upload to woody unless people find serious problems with it.

If you have a system with up-to-date enough libraries, please test it
for me.

I.e:

Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.3-1), libforms0.89, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2,
xlibs (>> 4.0.3)


On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +1000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It's good that you put together the deb. However, I still experienced the
> slowness when lyx calls latex from this deb. Do you have this problem on 
> your box with this deb? The only way I can get lyx to run properly (both 1.1.6fix2 
>and 1.2.0cvs) is to use gcc-3.0. My locally compiled lyx-1.1.6fix2 
> (with gcc-3.0) works pretty well. You might consider recompile lyx with
> gcc-3.0 to work around the slownes instead of exporting to latex and
> compile by hand.

I don't see this problem locally at all. I'm using gcc 2.95.2-14 and
libstdc++ 2.95.3-6.

Jules

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Re: Export to latex Pb

[Dekel Tsur]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:20:57PM +0200, Yann Collete wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've just installed lyx-1.1.6fix2 on a debian 2.2 workstation.
> No problem during compilation.
> When I try to export a document to latex, lyx seems to freeze.
> The sentence "Running Latex" is printed on the console and that's all.
> When I do a ps, I can see a lyx process and some gs processes but no
> latex process.

LyX doesn't freeze, you just need to have lots of patience...
This is a bug in the compiler (or actually, in libstdc++).
We will have a fix for this in 1.1.6fix3.

> Before lyx-1.1.6fix2, I used lyx-1.1.6fix1 and everything was OK.

There shouldn't be a difference between fix1 & fix2. Perhaps you updated your
compiler on your machine since you compiled fix1.

Re: Chapters in TOC

[Dekel Tsur]

On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> There's a feature in latex (I assume, rather than lyx) which I find
> very irritating: if I have a Chapter in my document, then in the table
> of contents there is no dotted line leading to the page number.  Like
> this:
> 
> CHAPTER TITLE   2
>Section Title ...2
> 
> What I would like would be this instead:
> 
> CHAPTER TITLE ..2
>Section Title ...2
> 
> Is there any way to do this?  Or is it a disgusting stylistic no-no
> which all latex-ers would be horrified to discover I am trying to
> circumvent it?

Use the tocloft package.

Re: thanks and pstopdf-question

[Herbert Voss]

Wolfgang Kilian wrote:
> 
>  Now I have the problem that I have to convert the document into several pdf files 
>(each chapter as a separate file). I've started with 'tex2pdf' (latest version) but 
>this brings a corrupt 

first choose a break after 75 characters in your mail ...

every chapter starts at a new page, so you can
save them with ghostview in a ps-file (behind
view->ps).
than use ps2pdf 

in latex use layout->doxument->character font->pslatex.
than you don't need any usepackage in the preamble.

Herbert

-- 
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Changing paragraph definitions

[Michelle Dukich]

Greetings:

As I typed a document using the article TextClass, in
the second subsection the paragraphs started to indent
the first line and to drop the interparagraph spacing.
 

I could not figure out what to do to fix this so I
output the file as LateX and looked at it in emacs.  I
note that before the problem every paragraph was
wrapped in {\raggedright ... \par}.  Furthermore,
there is a \medskip{} before and after all the
preceding paragraphs.  

Why would Lyx stop formating the paragraphs (I have
checked that it is still in article TextClass).  

Thanks in advance for your help.

Michelle

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Re: Changing paragraph definitions

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
> 
> I could not figure out what to do to fix this so I
> output the file as LateX and looked at it in emacs.  I
> note that before the problem every paragraph was
> wrapped in {\raggedright ... \par}.  Furthermore,
> there is a \medskip{} before and after all the
> preceding paragraphs.
> 
> Why would Lyx stop formating the paragraphs (I have
> checked that it is still in article TextClass).

can you send a short example-file?

Herbert

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Re: Chapters in TOC

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 10:09:17PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 12:22:33PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> > There's a feature in latex (I assume, rather than lyx) which I find
> > very irritating: if I have a Chapter in my document, then in the table
> > of contents there is no dotted line leading to the page number.  Like
> > this:
> > 
> > CHAPTER TITLE   2
> >Section Title ...2
> > 
> > What I would like would be this instead:
> > 
> > CHAPTER TITLE ..2
> >Section Title ...2
> > 
> > Is there any way to do this?  Or is it a disgusting stylistic no-no
> > which all latex-ers would be horrified to discover I am trying to
> > circumvent it?
> 
> Use the tocloft package.

I did.  Plenty of info in the package about how to *remove* dots, change
what's used for the dots, change their spacing... but nothing about how
to add them when they aren't there.

Am I missing something?

Kathryn Andersen
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lyx & xfig

[Matias Freytes]

Hello,
I´d like to update my old lyx. Could you please suggest
any stable rpm for redhat 6.2, kernel 2.2.18, Xfree86-3.3.6?
I´ve used xfig for a while. A few days ago I installed a
newer version and I couldnt export eps files any longer. I can
still use dev2ps and related tools, but miss that export option.

Thank you,
Matias.

Re: Languages (was Re: sorting tables?)

[Allan Rae]

On Sun, 27 May 2001, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
[...]
[ Baruch wrote this bit ]
> > The implementation as I expect it to be, will not force you to use one
> > language over the other, only if you want the official scripts you'll
> > need the official language. There is a need however to make the
> > scripting language easy enough for as many as users as possible so that
> > most of the users will not need to have multiple languages in LyX.
>
> That's why I'm glad that GIMP now has two scripting languages.  Scheme
> was the official one, but they added the perl module after that.  I
> admit I haven't yet learnt how to script for GIMP, but it's far more
> likely now, because I don't have to learn a whole new language as well
> as learning the GIMP-specific things needed to script GIMP.
>
> So as for languages that people are likely to know, you've got Lisp (for
> all those emacs-Lisp folks), and Perl, and the next New Thing, Python.
> I don't know about the knowledge-base for Scheme... and I've never heard
> of Icon.

FWIW, a number of Python folk are interested in LyX -- both for personal
use (with python.cls etc.) and as a possible unofficial documenting tool.
Their official documenting tools are a couple of scripts and any text
editor and they aren't about to change that in a hurry.  I know a couple
of people in particular who are Python gurus (one's a Python Team member)
who would love to get their hands dirty in LyX (with Python of course).

Then as a second official language we have Perl.  Maybe this would
encourage Perl mongers to test and maintain the lonely reLyX.  Or we just
let the Python gurus rewrite reLyX in Python ;-)   Python is supposed to
be faster than Perl anyway :P

Anyway, past discussions have usually ended up with Python as best because
it's readable/writable even for newbies.  Scheme/Lisp usually dropped as a
bad idea because no-one cares to type all the ()'s and Perl as a possible
second language.

Allan. (ARRae)