Re: Problem installing new document class

2003-11-29 Thread Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer
Sander Klous wrote:

Hi,

I submitted this question last week, but didn't get a response. So
I'll give it another try.
I have lyx1.3.3 installed on RH7.3

I downloaded the elsart.layout from

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/lib/layouts/

and installed it in ~/.lyx/layouts

In the same directory I have elsart.sty, elsart12.sty and elsart.cls
that I downloaded from elsevier and amssymb.sty that I downloaded from
http://www.itk.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/Docs/InsightDocuments/Latex/amssymb.sty?cvsroot=Insight

I ran lyx-reconfigure.

In the output it says:

+checking for document class elsart [elsart,amssymb.sty]... no

And I don't get a listing in lyx-document-class.

What's wrong?

Thanks,
Sander
 

How is this question becoming such a rat-hole?

Don't put it in /usr/share/texmf---that's where Debian officially 
updates tetex and all the recommended and dependent packages as well for 
tetex to run. I can't imagine there would be much of a difference with 
other Linux distros that follow the /usr/share intent.

Create /usr/local/share/texmf
Then create tex under texmf
Then create latex underneath tex
/usr/local/share/texmf
/usr/local/share/texmf/tex
/usr/local/share/texmf/latex
Extract your packages under the latex directory:

I have the following packages installed:

algorithms/
epigraph/
IEEEtran/
kom-script/
memoir/
paper/
prettyref/
runic/
svjour/
tugboat/
Read the instructions under each latex package that are separate from 
the instructions within the LyX -Customization section, which are on 
the CTAN tex archive site.

For example: Memoir
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/?action=/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/
excerpt:

   To install the package:
o run: latex memoir.ins (which will generate memoir.cls,
and a set of mem*.clo files)
o run: latex memoir.dtx
  For an index run: makeindex -s gind.ist memoir
o run: latex memoir.dtx
o Print memoir.dvi for a hardcopy of the documented code
o Move memoir.cls, the mem*.clo files and any mem*.sty file to locations
 where LaTeX will find them (typically in a local texmf tree at
 /tex/latex/memoir) and refresh the file database.
 See the FAQ on CTAN at help/uk-tex-faq
 or http://www.tug.ac.uk/faq for more information on this.
   To process memman.tex
o Make sure you can use the memoir class and the alltt, fixltx2e,
 layouts and url packages.
o Run (pdf)latex twice on memman.tex
o For an index run: makeindex -s memman.ist memman
o Run (pdf)latex twice more on memman.tex
o Print the manual
NOTE: you'll find that this process is repeatable with all .ins and .dtx 
files.

Then apply the texhash command spoken of from within LyX-Customization 
from Step 5

It will create the following file:

/usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R

The apply step 6 which states:

6. From within LyX, do: OptionsReconfigure. Restart LyX.

Verify it works by then checking your Help-LaTeX configuration

Of course it will then show up in the Layout-Document-Document 
Style-Document class list view.

I haven't had one of the packages that LaTeX configuration has support 
for not work.

The memoir class even has a very recent patch to it which I'll have to 
check because it does have bugs outside of LyX.

-Marc








Re: indexing a book

2003-11-29 Thread Ed Sawicki
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 14:14, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Ed Sawicki wrote:
 
  I love LyX but I dislike the way an index is created.
 
   I hope that it is not considered too off-topic to ask here about the art
 of indexing. This morning I bought a copy of Larry Bonura's The Art of
 Indexing. The most important insight I have gained so far is the difference
 in purpose of an index in a scientific book versus one in a technical
 manual. The index of a scientific book is used as a reference to specific
 information by (usually) someone who has already read the book. The index of
 a technical manual (or technical book) is used to answer how to questions
 by someone who may, or may not, have read the book. Bonura's book focuses on
 the latter need.
 
   So, can folks here recommend resources for me to read on how to decide on
 topics, organization and so on for a scientific book? There are many books
 out there and I cannot go through all of them trying to find the one that
 will teach me what I need to learn.
 
   I can also understand now why there's a dearth of indexing software. If
 the idea of the index is to extract ideas and concepts from the text -- from
 the reader's need to know -- how could software do this effectively?

I don't think it can. That's why there's a strong human/manual
component of the process, where the author or indexer (the human)
of the book needs to make the important decisions. The software
can only do the grunt work. However, the grunt work relives the
author or the indexer of a significant burden.

I've published electronic versions of my books where the index
is a search engine. This shifts the burden of indexing to the
reader and allows the reader to decide on his own search criteria.

Note that some search engine software allows the author or
indexer to assign priorities to words and phrases to put more
likely sought after sections of the book closer to the top of
the resulting list. Some software allows the addition of
metadata, thus allowing the author or indexer to enhance
a reader's search capabilities.

I've toyed with the idea of providing readers with a Web site they
could access once they've purchased one of my books. The Web site
would allow the reader to access an electronic index that's more
functional than the static index in the back of the printed book.

Ed

 Thanks,
 
 Rich



Re: frontmatter/mainmatter

2003-11-29 Thread Ed Sawicki
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:33, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Ed Sawicki wrote:
 
  The LyX graphical user interface doesn't seem to have a way to easily
  indicate where frontmatter and mainmatter begin. I use ERT to insert
  \frontmatter and \mainmatter. This is fine for me and I'm not complaining.
  I'm just wondering if I missed a more obvious way.
 
 Ed,
 
   Nope. That's just what I've used, too. Don't forget \backmatter when you
 get there.

I did notice that in the Layout pull down menu there's
an item called Start Appendix Here. I assumed that this
did \appendix. This is what inspired my original question.

Are \appendix and \backmatter synonyms?



 Rich



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Am Montag, 24. November 2003 17:31 schrieb Thorsten Hirsch:
 Hi.

 The register does not use the page style of all the other pages (fancy,
 individually changed). Instead, there are 2 columns and the page number
 is printed in the center of the bottom.
 How can I change this?

What document class?
Try this in preamble (for book):
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{theindex}
   {\chapter*{\indexname}%
 \markboth{\indexname}{\indexname}%
  \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{\indexname}
   \parindent\z@
\parskip\z@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   {\clearpage}
\makeatother

 And how can I add the pages register and references to the toc (as a new
 section, each)?

The above registeres the index to toc.

Jürgen.



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Thank you all, so far.

Document class is article, I was not using bibtex, but I probably will
do this now.
@Juergen: I get the following error with your preamble

LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.
 ...sline {section}{Literatur}{26}{section*.5}


Thorsten



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Thorsten Hirsch wrote:
 Document class is article
Then try this:
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{theindex}
               {\section*{\indexname}%
                 \markboth{\indexname}{\indexname}%
                  \addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\indexname}
               \parindent\z@
                \parskip\z@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
               {}
\makeatother

Jürgen.


Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Hey, I got it!
I changed the two chapter-entries in section-entries :-)

Btw, what does
 \makeatletter
and
 \makeatother
mean?

 The above registeres the index to toc.
And now I'll try the same for my references...

Bye.
Thorsten
-- 
PGP public key:
http://home.arcor.de/thorstenhirsch/thirschatwebde.asc



web link in bibtex

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Hi again.

How would you put a web link into the bibtex file?

@Article{WEP-1,
  title =   Security Of The WEP Algorithm,
  author =  Nikita Borisov, Ian Goldberg, David Wagner,
  publisher =   http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html,
(26.10.2003),
}

Is this correct? Especially the date of my last visit looks curious, but
my supervising prof. wants me to include it.

Thorsten



bibtex error: (author?)

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Looks like there's something broken:

blabla this is the cite(author?)

This is the dvi output. (author?) comes from -input -cite, where i
chose one of my bibtex references. Normally there should be (Tanenbaum,
2003), which I've chosen in the dialog window of the cite.

Thorsten
-- 
PGP public key:
http://home.arcor.de/thorstenhirsch/thirschatwebde.asc



beta-testers sought (relocatable LyX/Mac)

2003-11-29 Thread Ronald Florence
I'm looking for a couple of beta-testers for a new relocatable version
of LyX/Mac -- the application can be moved from /Applications.  This
feature will not be introduced officially until LyX/Mac-1.3.4, but I'd
like to test it on a few sites now, especially anyone running Jaguar
(MacOS-10.2.x).  I've tested it locally on Panther (MacOS-10.3.1).

Please write me with your MacOSX version and I'll point you to the
self-installing binary.  Thanks,
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com



Re: web link in bibtex

2003-11-29 Thread Kim Roland Rasmussen

Hi Thorsten,

I'd suggest using the url package by putting the following in your preamble:

\usepackage{url}

and then use \url{...} in your bibtex file. E.g.

@Article{WEP-1, 
  title =   Security Of The WEP Algorithm, 
  author =  Nikita Borisov, Ian Goldberg, David Wagner, 
  publisher =   \url{http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html}, 
(26.10.2003), 
}

Best,
Kim





Page numbers in upper right corner?

2003-11-29 Thread James Frye
I suppose this is a more of a general latex question than a Lyx-specific
one, but I haven't been able to find an answer anywhere else.  The
question seems pretty simple, even trivial: how can I get the page number
in the upper right corner of the page, instead of at the bottom center?
(Our grad school requires that in a thesis)

I've tried the fancyheadings package, as suggested in the Lyx docs, and it
will do it on the first page (along with some other fancification that I
could probably eliminate with a little work), but ONLY the first page.
The rest get no page number at all.

Thanks,
James  




Re: Problem installing new document class

2003-11-29 Thread Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer
Sander Klous wrote:

Hi,

I submitted this question last week, but didn't get a response. So
I'll give it another try.
I have lyx1.3.3 installed on RH7.3

I downloaded the elsart.layout from

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/lib/layouts/

and installed it in ~/.lyx/layouts

In the same directory I have elsart.sty, elsart12.sty and elsart.cls
that I downloaded from elsevier and amssymb.sty that I downloaded from
http://www.itk.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/Docs/InsightDocuments/Latex/amssymb.sty?cvsroot=Insight

I ran lyx-reconfigure.

In the output it says:

+checking for document class elsart [elsart,amssymb.sty]... no

And I don't get a listing in lyx-document-class.

What's wrong?

Thanks,
Sander
 

How is this question becoming such a rat-hole?

Don't put it in /usr/share/texmf---that's where Debian officially 
updates tetex and all the recommended and dependent packages as well for 
tetex to run. I can't imagine there would be much of a difference with 
other Linux distros that follow the /usr/share intent.

Create /usr/local/share/texmf
Then create tex under texmf
Then create latex underneath tex
/usr/local/share/texmf
/usr/local/share/texmf/tex
/usr/local/share/texmf/latex
Extract your packages under the latex directory:

I have the following packages installed:

algorithms/
epigraph/
IEEEtran/
kom-script/
memoir/
paper/
prettyref/
runic/
svjour/
tugboat/
Read the instructions under each latex package that are separate from 
the instructions within the LyX -Customization section, which are on 
the CTAN tex archive site.

For example: Memoir
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/?action=/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/
excerpt:

   To install the package:
o run: latex memoir.ins (which will generate memoir.cls,
and a set of mem*.clo files)
o run: latex memoir.dtx
  For an index run: makeindex -s gind.ist memoir
o run: latex memoir.dtx
o Print memoir.dvi for a hardcopy of the documented code
o Move memoir.cls, the mem*.clo files and any mem*.sty file to locations
 where LaTeX will find them (typically in a local texmf tree at
 /tex/latex/memoir) and refresh the file database.
 See the FAQ on CTAN at help/uk-tex-faq
 or http://www.tug.ac.uk/faq for more information on this.
   To process memman.tex
o Make sure you can use the memoir class and the alltt, fixltx2e,
 layouts and url packages.
o Run (pdf)latex twice on memman.tex
o For an index run: makeindex -s memman.ist memman
o Run (pdf)latex twice more on memman.tex
o Print the manual
NOTE: you'll find that this process is repeatable with all .ins and .dtx 
files.

Then apply the texhash command spoken of from within LyX-Customization 
from Step 5

It will create the following file:

/usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R

The apply step 6 which states:

6. From within LyX, do: OptionsReconfigure. Restart LyX.

Verify it works by then checking your Help-LaTeX configuration

Of course it will then show up in the Layout-Document-Document 
Style-Document class list view.

I haven't had one of the packages that LaTeX configuration has support 
for not work.

The memoir class even has a very recent patch to it which I'll have to 
check because it does have bugs outside of LyX.

-Marc








Re: indexing a book

2003-11-29 Thread Ed Sawicki
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 14:14, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Ed Sawicki wrote:
 
  I love LyX but I dislike the way an index is created.
 
   I hope that it is not considered too off-topic to ask here about the art
 of indexing. This morning I bought a copy of Larry Bonura's The Art of
 Indexing. The most important insight I have gained so far is the difference
 in purpose of an index in a scientific book versus one in a technical
 manual. The index of a scientific book is used as a reference to specific
 information by (usually) someone who has already read the book. The index of
 a technical manual (or technical book) is used to answer how to questions
 by someone who may, or may not, have read the book. Bonura's book focuses on
 the latter need.
 
   So, can folks here recommend resources for me to read on how to decide on
 topics, organization and so on for a scientific book? There are many books
 out there and I cannot go through all of them trying to find the one that
 will teach me what I need to learn.
 
   I can also understand now why there's a dearth of indexing software. If
 the idea of the index is to extract ideas and concepts from the text -- from
 the reader's need to know -- how could software do this effectively?

I don't think it can. That's why there's a strong human/manual
component of the process, where the author or indexer (the human)
of the book needs to make the important decisions. The software
can only do the grunt work. However, the grunt work relives the
author or the indexer of a significant burden.

I've published electronic versions of my books where the index
is a search engine. This shifts the burden of indexing to the
reader and allows the reader to decide on his own search criteria.

Note that some search engine software allows the author or
indexer to assign priorities to words and phrases to put more
likely sought after sections of the book closer to the top of
the resulting list. Some software allows the addition of
metadata, thus allowing the author or indexer to enhance
a reader's search capabilities.

I've toyed with the idea of providing readers with a Web site they
could access once they've purchased one of my books. The Web site
would allow the reader to access an electronic index that's more
functional than the static index in the back of the printed book.

Ed

 Thanks,
 
 Rich



Re: frontmatter/mainmatter

2003-11-29 Thread Ed Sawicki
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:33, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Ed Sawicki wrote:
 
  The LyX graphical user interface doesn't seem to have a way to easily
  indicate where frontmatter and mainmatter begin. I use ERT to insert
  \frontmatter and \mainmatter. This is fine for me and I'm not complaining.
  I'm just wondering if I missed a more obvious way.
 
 Ed,
 
   Nope. That's just what I've used, too. Don't forget \backmatter when you
 get there.

I did notice that in the Layout pull down menu there's
an item called Start Appendix Here. I assumed that this
did \appendix. This is what inspired my original question.

Are \appendix and \backmatter synonyms?



 Rich



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Am Montag, 24. November 2003 17:31 schrieb Thorsten Hirsch:
 Hi.

 The register does not use the page style of all the other pages (fancy,
 individually changed). Instead, there are 2 columns and the page number
 is printed in the center of the bottom.
 How can I change this?

What document class?
Try this in preamble (for book):
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{theindex}
   {\chapter*{\indexname}%
 \markboth{\indexname}{\indexname}%
  \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{\indexname}
   \parindent\z@
\parskip\z@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   {\clearpage}
\makeatother

 And how can I add the pages register and references to the toc (as a new
 section, each)?

The above registeres the index to toc.

Jürgen.



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Thank you all, so far.

Document class is article, I was not using bibtex, but I probably will
do this now.
@Juergen: I get the following error with your preamble

LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.
 ...sline {section}{Literatur}{26}{section*.5}


Thorsten



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Thorsten Hirsch wrote:
 Document class is article
Then try this:
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{theindex}
               {\section*{\indexname}%
                 \markboth{\indexname}{\indexname}%
                  \addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\indexname}
               \parindent\z@
                \parskip\z@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
               {}
\makeatother

Jürgen.


Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Hey, I got it!
I changed the two chapter-entries in section-entries :-)

Btw, what does
 \makeatletter
and
 \makeatother
mean?

 The above registeres the index to toc.
And now I'll try the same for my references...

Bye.
Thorsten
-- 
PGP public key:
http://home.arcor.de/thorstenhirsch/thirschatwebde.asc



web link in bibtex

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Hi again.

How would you put a web link into the bibtex file?

@Article{WEP-1,
  title =   Security Of The WEP Algorithm,
  author =  Nikita Borisov, Ian Goldberg, David Wagner,
  publisher =   http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html,
(26.10.2003),
}

Is this correct? Especially the date of my last visit looks curious, but
my supervising prof. wants me to include it.

Thorsten



bibtex error: (author?)

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Looks like there's something broken:

blabla this is the cite(author?)

This is the dvi output. (author?) comes from -input -cite, where i
chose one of my bibtex references. Normally there should be (Tanenbaum,
2003), which I've chosen in the dialog window of the cite.

Thorsten
-- 
PGP public key:
http://home.arcor.de/thorstenhirsch/thirschatwebde.asc



beta-testers sought (relocatable LyX/Mac)

2003-11-29 Thread Ronald Florence
I'm looking for a couple of beta-testers for a new relocatable version
of LyX/Mac -- the application can be moved from /Applications.  This
feature will not be introduced officially until LyX/Mac-1.3.4, but I'd
like to test it on a few sites now, especially anyone running Jaguar
(MacOS-10.2.x).  I've tested it locally on Panther (MacOS-10.3.1).

Please write me with your MacOSX version and I'll point you to the
self-installing binary.  Thanks,
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com



Re: web link in bibtex

2003-11-29 Thread Kim Roland Rasmussen

Hi Thorsten,

I'd suggest using the url package by putting the following in your preamble:

\usepackage{url}

and then use \url{...} in your bibtex file. E.g.

@Article{WEP-1, 
  title =   Security Of The WEP Algorithm, 
  author =  Nikita Borisov, Ian Goldberg, David Wagner, 
  publisher =   \url{http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html}, 
(26.10.2003), 
}

Best,
Kim





Page numbers in upper right corner?

2003-11-29 Thread James Frye
I suppose this is a more of a general latex question than a Lyx-specific
one, but I haven't been able to find an answer anywhere else.  The
question seems pretty simple, even trivial: how can I get the page number
in the upper right corner of the page, instead of at the bottom center?
(Our grad school requires that in a thesis)

I've tried the fancyheadings package, as suggested in the Lyx docs, and it
will do it on the first page (along with some other fancification that I
could probably eliminate with a little work), but ONLY the first page.
The rest get no page number at all.

Thanks,
James  




Re: Problem installing new document class

2003-11-29 Thread Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer
Sander Klous wrote:

Hi,

I submitted this question last week, but didn't get a response. So
I'll give it another try.
I have lyx1.3.3 installed on RH7.3

I downloaded the elsart.layout from

http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/lib/layouts/

and installed it in ~/.lyx/layouts

In the same directory I have elsart.sty, elsart12.sty and elsart.cls
that I downloaded from elsevier and amssymb.sty that I downloaded from
http://www.itk.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/Docs/InsightDocuments/Latex/amssymb.sty?cvsroot=Insight

I ran lyx->reconfigure.

In the output it says:

+checking for document class elsart [elsart,amssymb.sty]... no

And I don't get a listing in lyx->document->class.

What's wrong?

Thanks,
Sander
 

How is this question becoming such a rat-hole?

Don't put it in /usr/share/texmf---that's where Debian officially 
updates tetex and all the recommended and dependent packages as well for 
tetex to run. I can't imagine there would be much of a difference with 
other Linux distros that follow the /usr/share intent.

Create /usr/local/share/texmf
Then create tex under texmf
Then create latex underneath tex
/usr/local/share/texmf
/usr/local/share/texmf/tex
/usr/local/share/texmf/latex
Extract your packages under the latex directory:

I have the following packages installed:

algorithms/
epigraph/
IEEEtran/
kom-script/
memoir/
paper/
prettyref/
runic/
svjour/
tugboat/
Read the instructions under each latex package that are separate from 
the instructions within the LyX ->Customization section, which are on 
the CTAN tex archive site.

For example: Memoir
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/?action=/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/
excerpt:

   To install the package:
o run: latex memoir.ins (which will generate memoir.cls,
and a set of mem*.clo files)
o run: latex memoir.dtx
  For an index run: makeindex -s gind.ist memoir
o run: latex memoir.dtx
o Print memoir.dvi for a hardcopy of the documented code
o Move memoir.cls, the mem*.clo files and any mem*.sty file to locations
 where LaTeX will find them (typically in a local texmf tree at
 /tex/latex/memoir) and refresh the file database.
 See the FAQ on CTAN at help/uk-tex-faq
 or http://www.tug.ac.uk/faq for more information on this.
   To process memman.tex
o Make sure you can use the memoir class and the alltt, fixltx2e,
 layouts and url packages.
o Run (pdf)latex twice on memman.tex
o For an index run: makeindex -s memman.ist memman
o Run (pdf)latex twice more on memman.tex
o Print the manual
NOTE: you'll find that this process is repeatable with all .ins and .dtx 
files.

Then apply the texhash command spoken of from within LyX-Customization 
from Step 5

It will create the following file:

/usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R

The apply step 6 which states:

6. From within LyX, do: Options>Reconfigure. Restart LyX.

Verify it works by then checking your Help->LaTeX configuration

Of course it will then show up in the Layout->Document->Document 
Style->Document class list view.

I haven't had one of the packages that LaTeX configuration has support 
for not work.

The memoir class even has a very recent patch to it which I'll have to 
check because it does have bugs outside of LyX.

-Marc








Re: indexing a book

2003-11-29 Thread Ed Sawicki
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 14:14, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Ed Sawicki wrote:
> 
> > I love LyX but I dislike the way an index is created.
> 
>   I hope that it is not considered too off-topic to ask here about the art
> of indexing. This morning I bought a copy of Larry Bonura's "The Art of
> Indexing". The most important insight I have gained so far is the difference
> in purpose of an index in a scientific book versus one in a technical
> manual. The index of a scientific book is used as a reference to specific
> information by (usually) someone who has already read the book. The index of
> a technical manual (or technical book) is used to answer "how to" questions
> by someone who may, or may not, have read the book. Bonura's book focuses on
> the latter need.
> 
>   So, can folks here recommend resources for me to read on how to decide on
> topics, organization and so on for a scientific book? There are many books
> out there and I cannot go through all of them trying to find the one that
> will teach me what I need to learn.
> 
>   I can also understand now why there's a dearth of indexing software. If
> the idea of the index is to extract ideas and concepts from the text -- from
> the reader's need to know -- how could software do this effectively?

I don't think it can. That's why there's a strong human/manual
component of the process, where the author or indexer (the human)
of the book needs to make the important decisions. The software
can only do the grunt work. However, the grunt work relives the
author or the indexer of a significant burden.

I've published electronic versions of my books where the index
is a search engine. This shifts the burden of indexing to the
reader and allows the reader to decide on his own search criteria.

Note that some search engine software allows the author or
indexer to assign priorities to words and phrases to put more
likely sought after sections of the book closer to the top of
the resulting list. Some software allows the addition of
metadata, thus allowing the author or indexer to enhance
a reader's search capabilities.

I've toyed with the idea of providing readers with a Web site they
could access once they've purchased one of my books. The Web site
would allow the reader to access an electronic index that's more
functional than the static index in the back of the printed book.

Ed

> Thanks,
> 
> Rich



Re: frontmatter/mainmatter

2003-11-29 Thread Ed Sawicki
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 13:33, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Ed Sawicki wrote:
> 
> > The LyX graphical user interface doesn't seem to have a way to easily
> > indicate where frontmatter and mainmatter begin. I use ERT to insert
> > \frontmatter and \mainmatter. This is fine for me and I'm not complaining.
> > I'm just wondering if I missed a more obvious way.
> 
> Ed,
> 
>   Nope. That's just what I've used, too. Don't forget \backmatter when you
> get there.

I did notice that in the Layout pull down menu there's
an item called Start Appendix Here. I assumed that this
did \appendix. This is what inspired my original question.

Are \appendix and \backmatter synonyms?



> Rich



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Am Montag, 24. November 2003 17:31 schrieb Thorsten Hirsch:
> Hi.
>
> The register does not use the page style of all the other pages (fancy,
> individually changed). Instead, there are 2 columns and the page number
> is printed in the center of the bottom.
> How can I change this?

What document class?
Try this in preamble (for book):
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{theindex}
   {\chapter*{\indexname}%
 \markboth{\indexname}{\indexname}%
  \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{\indexname}
   \parindent\z@
\parskip\z@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   {\clearpage}
\makeatother

> And how can I add the pages register and references to the toc (as a new
> section, each)?

The above registeres the index to toc.

Jürgen.



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Thank you all, so far.

Document class is article, I was not using bibtex, but I probably will
do this now.
@Juergen: I get the following error with your preamble

LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.
 ...sline {section}{Literatur}{26}{section*.5}


Thorsten



Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Thorsten Hirsch wrote:
> Document class is article
Then try this:
\makeatletter
\renewenvironment{theindex}
               {\section*{\indexname}%
                 \markboth{\indexname}{\indexname}%
                  \addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\indexname}
               \parindent\z@
                \parskip\z@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
               {}
\makeatother

Jürgen.


Re: how to adapt the toc and the register individually?

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Hey, I got it!
I changed the two chapter-entries in section-entries :-)

Btw, what does
> \makeatletter
and
> \makeatother
mean?

> The above registeres the index to toc.
And now I'll try the same for my references...

Bye.
Thorsten
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web link in bibtex

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Hi again.

How would you put a web link into the bibtex file?

@Article{WEP-1,
  title =   "Security Of The WEP Algorithm",
  author =  "Nikita Borisov, Ian Goldberg, David Wagner",
  publisher =   "http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html,
(26.10.2003)",
}

Is this correct? Especially the date of my last visit looks curious, but
my supervising prof. wants me to include it.

Thorsten



bibtex error: (author?)

2003-11-29 Thread Thorsten Hirsch
Looks like there's something broken:

"blabla this is the cite"(author?)

This is the dvi output. (author?) comes from ->input ->cite, where i
chose one of my bibtex references. Normally there should be (Tanenbaum,
2003), which I've chosen in the dialog window of the cite.

Thorsten
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beta-testers sought (relocatable LyX/Mac)

2003-11-29 Thread Ronald Florence
I'm looking for a couple of beta-testers for a new relocatable version
of LyX/Mac -- the application can be moved from /Applications.  This
feature will not be introduced officially until LyX/Mac-1.3.4, but I'd
like to test it on a few sites now, especially anyone running Jaguar
(MacOS-10.2.x).  I've tested it locally on Panther (MacOS-10.3.1).

Please write me with your MacOSX version and I'll point you to the
self-installing binary.  Thanks,
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com



Re: web link in bibtex

2003-11-29 Thread Kim Roland Rasmussen

Hi Thorsten,

I'd suggest using the "url" package by putting the following in your preamble:

\usepackage{url}

and then use \url{...} in your bibtex file. E.g.

@Article{WEP-1, 
  title =   "Security Of The WEP Algorithm", 
  author =  "Nikita Borisov, Ian Goldberg, David Wagner", 
  publisher =   "\url{http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html}, 
(26.10.2003)", 
}

Best,
Kim





Page numbers in upper right corner?

2003-11-29 Thread James Frye
I suppose this is a more of a general latex question than a Lyx-specific
one, but I haven't been able to find an answer anywhere else.  The
question seems pretty simple, even trivial: how can I get the page number
in the upper right corner of the page, instead of at the bottom center?
(Our grad school requires that in a thesis>)

I've tried the fancyheadings package, as suggested in the Lyx docs, and it
will do it on the first page (along with some other fancification that I
could probably eliminate with a little work), but ONLY the first page.
The rest get no page number at all.

Thanks,
James