Re: I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at lyx-users-owner-UqbJ+GOpo48g9kffE6ERjg@public.gmane.org

[Angus Leeming]

Brian Hart wrote:

  
 Acknowledgment: I have added the address
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 to
  the lyx-users mailing list.
 
 Welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  libflimage
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 I have RedHat Linux 7.3 (Vallhalla).  I installed XForms, I have QT,and
 I also installed ImageMagick.
 
 I compiled and installed LyX, and when I started up LyX I received the
 following:
 
 lyx: error while loading shared libraries: libflimage.so.1: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 I don't understand -- is there something more I need to download in
 order to get libflimage?  Or what?  Thanks.

Hi Brian.

LyX comes in two flavours. One version uses the XForms GUI library to
display the frontend (what you see when you fire up LyX). The other
version uses the Qt GUI library.

If you're loader can't find libflimage.so.1 then you're using the XForms
version of LyX. You don't need Qt to run it.

libflimage is part of XForms but is a separate library object to libforms.
Nonetheless, it is packaged in the rpm, here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/libforms-1.0-release.i386.rpm

I'm not sure what flavour of linux that this rpm was built on. RH7.3 is now
quite old, so I think it's safe to say that the rpm was not built on your
system. I don't know if there would be any repurcussions if you were to
use it. Guess not; if it installs, all should be fine.

Nonetheless, you might prefer to play safe and build the rpm for your own
box. The src.rpm is to be found here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/xforms-1.0-release.src.rpm

Finally, there are prebuilt binaries of lyx available here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.4

There don't appear to be anything for RH7.3, however.

Angus

Re: do you know?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 12:13:34PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Eric Delevaux wrote:
 
   \data{}
 
  An error occurs...
 
 Eric,
 
   That's because I mis-spelled the word. Try:
 
 \date{}

Yeah... getting a proper date is sometimes difficult

;-)

SCNR,
Andre'

Re: Bessel functions in math mode

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 01:16:04PM +0200, Alexandru Cabuz wrote:
 Hello, list,
 
 Does anybody know, what is the convention for putting special functions such 
 as Bessel and Hankel functions in math formulas. Are they supposed to be 
 italicized like variables, or in math-text font, like sin, cos, tan, etc. Cos 
 there is no macro for Jn and Hn in the math palette. 

My convention says all multi-char function names are upright.

Andre'

Re: Problems with toads

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Elver Loho wrote:
 
  While LyX has a very fine LaTeX class for doing just that, it seems to
  lack hotkeys. Changing styles with the keyboard seems to be impossible,
 
 e,
 
   Er, ... no. Not at all.
 
   Wander over to ~/.lyx/bind/ and look at the files there: cua.bind and
 emacs.bind. You are welcome to modify them to your heart's content. Just as
 a suggestion, copy one of them (say, 'cua.bind') to another file (oh,
 'my.bind' would do), then fiddle with the latter. When the music suits you,
 you're all set.
 
   Go to Edit-Preferences-Look n' Feel-Bind file and change that to the
 one you want to use. Then run Edit-Reconfigure, exit LyX and restart it.

Here's a link to some additional information about keyboard shortcuts:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Chris Menzel]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 11:46:04PM -0400, Varun Reddy wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Where do i include the path to ispell?

Ah, I see; it just gives you several executables in a drop down list
rather than asking you to type one in.

 I do see ispell in the /sw/bin directory, but i dont see an option to
 specify the path to ispell under the preferences dialog box of LyX.

Sounds like /sw/bin isn't in your path.  Have you specified a PATH
environment variable in an environment.plist file in your ~/.MacOSX
directory?  If not, create the file out of the following:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN
http://www.apple.
com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd
plist version=1.0
dict
keyPATH/key
string/sw/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sw/sbin:/usr/local/lib:/us
r/sbin:/etc:/usr/X11R6/bin/string
keySHELL/key
string/bin/bash/string
keyDISPLAY/key
string:0.0/string
/dict
/plist

Change your shell as appropriate if you don't use bash.  delete the
DISPLAY key and the 0.0 string if you don't use X11.  You might also add
the path to your tex executable if you didn't install tetex via fink,
and add/delete other dirs in the PATH string to suit your needs.

Chris Menzel

Re: algorithm

[Uwe Stöhr]

Frederic Leymarie wrote:
I used the algorithm package (algo-0.3)
and with an algo floating box,
I cannot control its position on the page
and it leaves empty space above and below
(I.e., the algo box is centered).
I need to use that blank space to put a table.
Any idea how I can force lyx to use the space?
Right-click on the algorithm float and then choose a position. If you 
use ERT to produce the float, write the position in brackets behind the 
\begin-command. E.g. write

\begin{algorithm}[t]
if you want the position 'top'.
regards Uwe

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Robert Thorsby wrote:

 Perhaps I expressed myself badly. My point was that while ever
 applications are forced to compromise their algorithms to accommodate
 monitor resolutions they will never typeset as well as applications that
 do not have to compromise.

Robert,

  I'm with you now.

 I learned this when I was using FrameMaker at 1600% resolution while
 trying to position some type precisely. I finally got to the point where a
 thousandth of a point (1/72000 of an inch) change on paper resulted in a
 huge shift on screen -- the PostScript algorithms could handle the
 minute changes, the printer was having real problems, but the Monitor was
 so far out that it was no longer reliable.

 Mind you, you have to be pretty weird to want to move something 1/1000
 of a point but that's immaterial.

  Actually, no. It's not weird just a matter of priorities and how people
view work. I'm in the category that focuses on content and prefers that
graphic professionals design the appearance of the output. I prefer to not
fuss with it. I'll tweak some things slightly, but soon lose interest: good
enough is sufficient.

  Other people are focused more on the appearance than the content. This is
not a bad thing, it's just the way we are wired. A graphic artist friend of
mine will pick up a page and see the overall pattern; he may eventually get
around to actually reading the text. If he doesn't then that's OK with him,
too. My fiancee has often told me that she doesn't really care whether or
not something works as long as it looks and smells pretty.

  Different strokes for different folks. One's not better than the other,
just different.

 Your reference to xdvi is spot on -- but the LyX output has to be
 reprocessed each time, a matter of little consequence in reality. But an
 anathema to the wordprocessor crowd.

  Could be. I never discussed this with a winWord user. And my book,
admittedly short at its current 155 pages, still compiles acceptably fast on
my ancient PII/333MHz workstation with 328M RAM.

 I repeat my argument that it is the difference in monitor resolution that
 forces the wordprocessors to use inferior typesetting -- if they used
 better typesetting then their screen would no longer reflect what was
 being printed. I appreciate that it's the cart driving the horse but I
 believe that is what's happening.

  The interesting thing is that I see page appearance in
OpenOffice.org-1.1.2 that looks really bad. But, when it's printed the
uneveness goes away and it looks just fine. Shrug. Again, it may well be
that I'm not doing page layout for a magazine or advertisement and I'm not
oriented toward microtwiddling the appearance.

  I'm reading The LaTeX Companion, Second Edition now. I'm fascinated at the
degree of control one can assert over pages, paragraphs, individual
typographic elements. In the back of my mind is the thought, perhaps, some
day, I'll need to design a nice layout for some document and this will be a
really good reference on how to do it. In the front of my mind is the
thought, nice. But, so what? The defaults -- and the publisher's .sty --
are just fine with me. Write and ignore the details.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Varun Reddy]

I have chosen ispell from the drop down box in
LyX-Preferences-Language settings-Spellchecker-Spell checker
program

In the drop down box i have the options
ispell
aspell
hspell

Only the program names are listed there, they do not have the complete
path to the files. Is that ok?

Also, this is the output i get using the terminal command prompt:

--
varun:~ varun$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
varun:~ varun$ ispell
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 08/01/01
word: tree
ok

word: 
--

So i guess my path variable is correct and ispell works from the
command prompt.
I don't have aspell or cocoAspell yet. i will try to install them and
check if they work for me.

varun

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Varun Reddy]

Just installed the aspell and aspell-en packages using Fink.

This is the output in Terminal;


varun:~ varun$ aspell -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.4.1)
varun:~ varun$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
varun:~ varun$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
varun:~ varun$ aspell -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.4.1)
varun:~ varun$ ispell
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 08/01/01
word: ^C
varun:~ varun$ 
--

Spellchecker in LyX now works with aspell. I guess this does solve my
problem though i am not sure why ispell doesnt work from within LyX.

Thanks for the help.

varun

Re: two simple questions

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Harold Mouras wrote:

 1) in a Lyx document in which the margins are set for some default
 dimensions, how can I change these dimensions only for one page of the
 document. I think I have to use the command \thispagestyle, but what would
 be for example the command line for no margin;

Harold,

  \pagestyle and \thispagestyle apply to headers and footers. There are a
couple of packages, KOMA and memoir come immediately to mind, that permit
you to alter the page layout to your satisfaction. However, you need to be
more specific regarding which margin you want to alter.

  If it's the vertical text area, then \enlargethispage*{size} can add or
subtract a line or two from the page length to keep page formatting more
visually appealing.

  If it's the text area width, I don't know what command can be applied to
only a single page.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 06:19:03PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
   I'd like to be able to sound intelligent when my Microserf friends and
 colleagues ask, Why LaTeX and not a word processor?

One thing TeX does and Word doesn't is to break a paragraph as a
whole and not line-per-line. This way TeX can ensure that a dense line
is not followed by a line using lots of inter-word space.

This might sound like a very tiny, unimporant detail but already a single
occurence of such a bad line pair is noticable, even from a distance.

Not to mention math type setting...

Andre' 

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Andre Poenitz wrote:

 One thing TeX does and Word doesn't is to break a paragraph as a whole and
 not line-per-line. This way TeX can ensure that a dense line is not
 followed by a line using lots of inter-word space.

Andre',

  Good point.

Thanks,

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: two simple questions

[Uwe Stöhr]

Harold Mouras wrote:
I have two simple questions:
1) in a Lyx document in which the margins are set for some default
dimensions, how can I change these dimensions only for one page of the
document. I think I have to use the command \thispagestyle, but what would
be for example the command line for no margin;
\thispagestyle doesn't change the margins. It sets the style (with 
pagenumber or not, with headers and footers or not).

From the typographic view, you should change the margins for single 
pages only for a very good reason.
Here is one way to do it:

- Create a new document with the same margin settings as you use in your 
document. Add to its preamble the line
\usepackage{layout}
and insert the command
\layout
in ERT.
If you compile this, you will get an illustration with the actual margin 
settings. (see the attached layout.lyx)

- To change the margins in your document, insert a \clearpage or 
\cleardoublepage command at the position where the new margin settings 
should begin. \clearpage prints all unprocessed floats and creates a new 
page to prevent troubles. If you e.g. want no margins, enter the commands
\setlength{\hoffset}{-1in}
\setlength{\voffset}{-1in}
To return to the old margin settings, insert again a \clearpage and set 
the lengths to the values that are shown in the margin illustration. 
(see the attached newfile2.lyx)

2) if I choose all the float with the option pages of float for the
placement, do LyX and Latex make a special section at the end of the
document with all the floats in the right order?
No, it will produce float pages as soon as possible in the text. The 
floats will be in the right order.

regards Uwe
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass scrartcl
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{layout}
\end_preamble
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme ae
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 12
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 4
\tocdepth 4
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle empty

\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
layout 
\end_inset 


\the_end
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass scrartcl
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme ae
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 12
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 4
\tocdepth 4
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle empty
\bullet 1
1
34
-1
\end_bullet
\bullet 2
2
35
-1
\end_bullet
\bullet 3
2
7
-1
\end_bullet

\layout Standard

blalba
\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
clearpage
\end_inset 


\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
hoffset}{-1in}
\newline 

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
voffset}{-1in}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

hello
\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
clearpage
\end_inset 


\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
hoffset}{0pt}
\newline 

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
voffset}{0pt}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

lbabla
\the_end

shortcut for export - pdflatex

[Uwe Sthr]

Hello LyXers,
does anybody know a way to define a shortcut for export - pdflatex?
thanks Uwe

Bibdesk and LyX

[Varun Reddy]

Is there any reference material on how to use Bibdesk with Lyx? Also,
are there alternate programs that can be used to insert references in
a thesis.

thanks

varun

Re: I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at lyx-users-owner-UqbJ+GOpo48g9kffE6ERjg@public.gmane.org

[Angus Leeming]

Brian Hart wrote:

  
 Acknowledgment: I have added the address
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 to
  the lyx-users mailing list.
 
 Welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  libflimage
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 I have RedHat Linux 7.3 (Vallhalla).  I installed XForms, I have QT,and
 I also installed ImageMagick.
 
 I compiled and installed LyX, and when I started up LyX I received the
 following:
 
 lyx: error while loading shared libraries: libflimage.so.1: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 I don't understand -- is there something more I need to download in
 order to get libflimage?  Or what?  Thanks.

Hi Brian.

LyX comes in two flavours. One version uses the XForms GUI library to
display the frontend (what you see when you fire up LyX). The other
version uses the Qt GUI library.

If you're loader can't find libflimage.so.1 then you're using the XForms
version of LyX. You don't need Qt to run it.

libflimage is part of XForms but is a separate library object to libforms.
Nonetheless, it is packaged in the rpm, here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/libforms-1.0-release.i386.rpm

I'm not sure what flavour of linux that this rpm was built on. RH7.3 is now
quite old, so I think it's safe to say that the rpm was not built on your
system. I don't know if there would be any repurcussions if you were to
use it. Guess not; if it installs, all should be fine.

Nonetheless, you might prefer to play safe and build the rpm for your own
box. The src.rpm is to be found here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/xforms-1.0-release.src.rpm

Finally, there are prebuilt binaries of lyx available here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.4

There don't appear to be anything for RH7.3, however.

Angus

Re: do you know?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 12:13:34PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Eric Delevaux wrote:
 
   \data{}
 
  An error occurs...
 
 Eric,
 
   That's because I mis-spelled the word. Try:
 
 \date{}

Yeah... getting a proper date is sometimes difficult

;-)

SCNR,
Andre'

Re: Bessel functions in math mode

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 01:16:04PM +0200, Alexandru Cabuz wrote:
 Hello, list,
 
 Does anybody know, what is the convention for putting special functions such 
 as Bessel and Hankel functions in math formulas. Are they supposed to be 
 italicized like variables, or in math-text font, like sin, cos, tan, etc. Cos 
 there is no macro for Jn and Hn in the math palette. 

My convention says all multi-char function names are upright.

Andre'

Re: Problems with toads

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Elver Loho wrote:
 
  While LyX has a very fine LaTeX class for doing just that, it seems to
  lack hotkeys. Changing styles with the keyboard seems to be impossible,
 
 e,
 
   Er, ... no. Not at all.
 
   Wander over to ~/.lyx/bind/ and look at the files there: cua.bind and
 emacs.bind. You are welcome to modify them to your heart's content. Just as
 a suggestion, copy one of them (say, 'cua.bind') to another file (oh,
 'my.bind' would do), then fiddle with the latter. When the music suits you,
 you're all set.
 
   Go to Edit-Preferences-Look n' Feel-Bind file and change that to the
 one you want to use. Then run Edit-Reconfigure, exit LyX and restart it.

Here's a link to some additional information about keyboard shortcuts:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Chris Menzel]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 11:46:04PM -0400, Varun Reddy wrote:
 Chris,
 
 Where do i include the path to ispell?

Ah, I see; it just gives you several executables in a drop down list
rather than asking you to type one in.

 I do see ispell in the /sw/bin directory, but i dont see an option to
 specify the path to ispell under the preferences dialog box of LyX.

Sounds like /sw/bin isn't in your path.  Have you specified a PATH
environment variable in an environment.plist file in your ~/.MacOSX
directory?  If not, create the file out of the following:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN
http://www.apple.
com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd
plist version=1.0
dict
keyPATH/key
string/sw/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sw/sbin:/usr/local/lib:/us
r/sbin:/etc:/usr/X11R6/bin/string
keySHELL/key
string/bin/bash/string
keyDISPLAY/key
string:0.0/string
/dict
/plist

Change your shell as appropriate if you don't use bash.  delete the
DISPLAY key and the 0.0 string if you don't use X11.  You might also add
the path to your tex executable if you didn't install tetex via fink,
and add/delete other dirs in the PATH string to suit your needs.

Chris Menzel

Re: algorithm

[Uwe Stöhr]

Frederic Leymarie wrote:
I used the algorithm package (algo-0.3)
and with an algo floating box,
I cannot control its position on the page
and it leaves empty space above and below
(I.e., the algo box is centered).
I need to use that blank space to put a table.
Any idea how I can force lyx to use the space?
Right-click on the algorithm float and then choose a position. If you 
use ERT to produce the float, write the position in brackets behind the 
\begin-command. E.g. write

\begin{algorithm}[t]
if you want the position 'top'.
regards Uwe

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Robert Thorsby wrote:

 Perhaps I expressed myself badly. My point was that while ever
 applications are forced to compromise their algorithms to accommodate
 monitor resolutions they will never typeset as well as applications that
 do not have to compromise.

Robert,

  I'm with you now.

 I learned this when I was using FrameMaker at 1600% resolution while
 trying to position some type precisely. I finally got to the point where a
 thousandth of a point (1/72000 of an inch) change on paper resulted in a
 huge shift on screen -- the PostScript algorithms could handle the
 minute changes, the printer was having real problems, but the Monitor was
 so far out that it was no longer reliable.

 Mind you, you have to be pretty weird to want to move something 1/1000
 of a point but that's immaterial.

  Actually, no. It's not weird just a matter of priorities and how people
view work. I'm in the category that focuses on content and prefers that
graphic professionals design the appearance of the output. I prefer to not
fuss with it. I'll tweak some things slightly, but soon lose interest: good
enough is sufficient.

  Other people are focused more on the appearance than the content. This is
not a bad thing, it's just the way we are wired. A graphic artist friend of
mine will pick up a page and see the overall pattern; he may eventually get
around to actually reading the text. If he doesn't then that's OK with him,
too. My fiancee has often told me that she doesn't really care whether or
not something works as long as it looks and smells pretty.

  Different strokes for different folks. One's not better than the other,
just different.

 Your reference to xdvi is spot on -- but the LyX output has to be
 reprocessed each time, a matter of little consequence in reality. But an
 anathema to the wordprocessor crowd.

  Could be. I never discussed this with a winWord user. And my book,
admittedly short at its current 155 pages, still compiles acceptably fast on
my ancient PII/333MHz workstation with 328M RAM.

 I repeat my argument that it is the difference in monitor resolution that
 forces the wordprocessors to use inferior typesetting -- if they used
 better typesetting then their screen would no longer reflect what was
 being printed. I appreciate that it's the cart driving the horse but I
 believe that is what's happening.

  The interesting thing is that I see page appearance in
OpenOffice.org-1.1.2 that looks really bad. But, when it's printed the
uneveness goes away and it looks just fine. Shrug. Again, it may well be
that I'm not doing page layout for a magazine or advertisement and I'm not
oriented toward microtwiddling the appearance.

  I'm reading The LaTeX Companion, Second Edition now. I'm fascinated at the
degree of control one can assert over pages, paragraphs, individual
typographic elements. In the back of my mind is the thought, perhaps, some
day, I'll need to design a nice layout for some document and this will be a
really good reference on how to do it. In the front of my mind is the
thought, nice. But, so what? The defaults -- and the publisher's .sty --
are just fine with me. Write and ignore the details.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Varun Reddy]

I have chosen ispell from the drop down box in
LyX-Preferences-Language settings-Spellchecker-Spell checker
program

In the drop down box i have the options
ispell
aspell
hspell

Only the program names are listed there, they do not have the complete
path to the files. Is that ok?

Also, this is the output i get using the terminal command prompt:

--
varun:~ varun$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
varun:~ varun$ ispell
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 08/01/01
word: tree
ok

word: 
--

So i guess my path variable is correct and ispell works from the
command prompt.
I don't have aspell or cocoAspell yet. i will try to install them and
check if they work for me.

varun

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Varun Reddy]

Just installed the aspell and aspell-en packages using Fink.

This is the output in Terminal;


varun:~ varun$ aspell -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.4.1)
varun:~ varun$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
varun:~ varun$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
varun:~ varun$ aspell -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.4.1)
varun:~ varun$ ispell
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 08/01/01
word: ^C
varun:~ varun$ 
--

Spellchecker in LyX now works with aspell. I guess this does solve my
problem though i am not sure why ispell doesnt work from within LyX.

Thanks for the help.

varun

Re: two simple questions

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Harold Mouras wrote:

 1) in a Lyx document in which the margins are set for some default
 dimensions, how can I change these dimensions only for one page of the
 document. I think I have to use the command \thispagestyle, but what would
 be for example the command line for no margin;

Harold,

  \pagestyle and \thispagestyle apply to headers and footers. There are a
couple of packages, KOMA and memoir come immediately to mind, that permit
you to alter the page layout to your satisfaction. However, you need to be
more specific regarding which margin you want to alter.

  If it's the vertical text area, then \enlargethispage*{size} can add or
subtract a line or two from the page length to keep page formatting more
visually appealing.

  If it's the text area width, I don't know what command can be applied to
only a single page.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 06:19:03PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
   I'd like to be able to sound intelligent when my Microserf friends and
 colleagues ask, Why LaTeX and not a word processor?

One thing TeX does and Word doesn't is to break a paragraph as a
whole and not line-per-line. This way TeX can ensure that a dense line
is not followed by a line using lots of inter-word space.

This might sound like a very tiny, unimporant detail but already a single
occurence of such a bad line pair is noticable, even from a distance.

Not to mention math type setting...

Andre' 

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Andre Poenitz wrote:

 One thing TeX does and Word doesn't is to break a paragraph as a whole and
 not line-per-line. This way TeX can ensure that a dense line is not
 followed by a line using lots of inter-word space.

Andre',

  Good point.

Thanks,

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: two simple questions

[Uwe Stöhr]

Harold Mouras wrote:
I have two simple questions:
1) in a Lyx document in which the margins are set for some default
dimensions, how can I change these dimensions only for one page of the
document. I think I have to use the command \thispagestyle, but what would
be for example the command line for no margin;
\thispagestyle doesn't change the margins. It sets the style (with 
pagenumber or not, with headers and footers or not).

From the typographic view, you should change the margins for single 
pages only for a very good reason.
Here is one way to do it:

- Create a new document with the same margin settings as you use in your 
document. Add to its preamble the line
\usepackage{layout}
and insert the command
\layout
in ERT.
If you compile this, you will get an illustration with the actual margin 
settings. (see the attached layout.lyx)

- To change the margins in your document, insert a \clearpage or 
\cleardoublepage command at the position where the new margin settings 
should begin. \clearpage prints all unprocessed floats and creates a new 
page to prevent troubles. If you e.g. want no margins, enter the commands
\setlength{\hoffset}{-1in}
\setlength{\voffset}{-1in}
To return to the old margin settings, insert again a \clearpage and set 
the lengths to the values that are shown in the margin illustration. 
(see the attached newfile2.lyx)

2) if I choose all the float with the option pages of float for the
placement, do LyX and Latex make a special section at the end of the
document with all the floats in the right order?
No, it will produce float pages as soon as possible in the text. The 
floats will be in the right order.

regards Uwe
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass scrartcl
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{layout}
\end_preamble
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme ae
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 12
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 4
\tocdepth 4
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle empty

\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
layout 
\end_inset 


\the_end
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass scrartcl
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme ae
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 12
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 4
\tocdepth 4
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle empty
\bullet 1
1
34
-1
\end_bullet
\bullet 2
2
35
-1
\end_bullet
\bullet 3
2
7
-1
\end_bullet

\layout Standard

blalba
\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
clearpage
\end_inset 


\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
hoffset}{-1in}
\newline 

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
voffset}{-1in}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

hello
\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
clearpage
\end_inset 


\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
hoffset}{0pt}
\newline 

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
voffset}{0pt}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

lbabla
\the_end

shortcut for export - pdflatex

[Uwe Sthr]

Hello LyXers,
does anybody know a way to define a shortcut for export - pdflatex?
thanks Uwe

Bibdesk and LyX

[Varun Reddy]

Is there any reference material on how to use Bibdesk with Lyx? Also,
are there alternate programs that can be used to insert references in
a thesis.

thanks

varun

Re: I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at lyx-users-owner-UqbJ+GOpo48g9kffE6ERjg@public.gmane.org

[Angus Leeming]

Brian Hart wrote:

>  
> Acknowledgment: I have added the address
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> to
>  the lyx-users mailing list.
> 
> Welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>  libflimage
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> I have RedHat Linux 7.3 (Vallhalla).  I installed XForms, I have QT,and
> I also installed ImageMagick.
> 
> I compiled and installed LyX, and when I started up LyX I received the
> following:
> 
> lyx: error while loading shared libraries: libflimage.so.1: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> I don't understand -- is there something more I need to download in
> order to get libflimage?  Or what?  Thanks.

Hi Brian.

LyX comes in two flavours. One version uses the XForms GUI library to
display the frontend (what you see when you fire up LyX). The other
version uses the Qt GUI library.

If you're loader can't find libflimage.so.1 then you're using the XForms
version of LyX. You don't need Qt to run it.

libflimage is part of XForms but is a separate library object to libforms.
Nonetheless, it is packaged in the rpm, here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/libforms-1.0-release.i386.rpm

I'm not sure what flavour of linux that this rpm was built on. RH7.3 is now
quite old, so I think it's safe to say that the rpm was not built on your
system. I don't know if there would be any repurcussions if you were to
use it. Guess not; if it installs, all should be fine.

Nonetheless, you might prefer to play safe and build the rpm for your own
box. The src.rpm is to be found here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/contrib/xforms-1.0-release.src.rpm

Finally, there are prebuilt binaries of lyx available here:

ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.4

There don't appear to be anything for RH7.3, however.

Angus

Re: do you know?

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 12:13:34PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Eric Delevaux wrote:
> 
> > > \data{}
> >
> > An error occurs...
> 
> Eric,
> 
>   That's because I mis-spelled the word. Try:
> 
> \date{}

Yeah... getting a proper date is sometimes difficult

;-)

SCNR,
Andre'

Re: Bessel functions in math mode

[Andre Poenitz]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 01:16:04PM +0200, Alexandru Cabuz wrote:
> Hello, list,
> 
> Does anybody know, what is the convention for putting special functions such 
> as Bessel and Hankel functions in math formulas. Are they supposed to be 
> italicized like variables, or in math-text font, like sin, cos, tan, etc. Cos 
> there is no macro for Jn and Hn in the math palette. 

My convention says "all multi-char function names are upright".

Andre'

Re: Problems with toads

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Elver Loho wrote:
> 
> > While LyX has a very fine LaTeX class for doing just that, it seems to
> > lack hotkeys. Changing styles with the keyboard seems to be impossible,
> 
> e,
> 
>   Er, ... no. Not at all.
> 
>   Wander over to ~/.lyx/bind/ and look at the files there: cua.bind and
> emacs.bind. You are welcome to modify them to your heart's content. Just as
> a suggestion, copy one of them (say, 'cua.bind') to another file (oh,
> 'my.bind' would do), then fiddle with the latter. When the music suits you,
> you're all set.
> 
>   Go to Edit->Preferences->Look n' Feel->Bind file and change that to the
> one you want to use. Then run Edit->Reconfigure, exit LyX and restart it.

Here's a link to some additional information about keyboard shortcuts:

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Chris Menzel]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 11:46:04PM -0400, Varun Reddy wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> Where do i include the path to ispell?

Ah, I see; it just gives you several executables in a drop down list
rather than asking you to type one in.

> I do see ispell in the /sw/bin directory, but i dont see an option to
> specify the path to ispell under the preferences dialog box of LyX.

Sounds like /sw/bin isn't in your path.  Have you specified a PATH
environment variable in an environment.plist file in your ~/.MacOSX
directory?  If not, create the file out of the following:


http://www.apple.
com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">


PATH
/sw/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sw/sbin:/usr/local/lib:/us
r/sbin:/etc:/usr/X11R6/bin
SHELL
/bin/bash
DISPLAY
:0.0



Change your shell as appropriate if you don't use bash.  delete the
DISPLAY key and the 0.0 string if you don't use X11.  You might also add
the path to your tex executable if you didn't install tetex via fink,
and add/delete other dirs in the PATH string to suit your needs.

Chris Menzel

Re: algorithm

[Uwe Stöhr]

Frederic Leymarie wrote:
I used the algorithm package (algo-0.3)
and with an algo floating box,
I cannot control its position on the page
and it leaves empty space above and below
(I.e., the algo box is centered).
I need to use that blank space to put a table.
Any idea how I can force lyx to use the space?
Right-click on the algorithm float and then choose a position. If you 
use ERT to produce the float, write the position in brackets behind the 
\begin-command. E.g. write

\begin{algorithm}[t]
if you want the position 'top'.
regards Uwe

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Robert Thorsby wrote:

> Perhaps I expressed myself badly. My point was that while ever
> applications are forced to compromise their algorithms to accommodate
> monitor resolutions they will never typeset as well as applications that
> do not have to compromise.

Robert,

  I'm with you now.

> I learned this when I was using FrameMaker at 1600% resolution while
> trying to position some type precisely. I finally got to the point where a
> thousandth of a point (1/72000 of an inch) change on paper resulted in a
> "huge" shift on screen -- the PostScript algorithms could handle the
> minute changes, the printer was having real problems, but the Monitor was
> so far out that it was no longer reliable.

> Mind you, you have to be pretty weird to want to move something 1/1000
> of a point but that's immaterial.

  Actually, no. It's not weird just a matter of priorities and how people
view work. I'm in the category that focuses on content and prefers that
graphic professionals design the appearance of the output. I prefer to not
fuss with it. I'll tweak some things slightly, but soon lose interest: good
enough is sufficient.

  Other people are focused more on the appearance than the content. This is
not a bad thing, it's just the way we are wired. A graphic artist friend of
mine will pick up a page and see the overall pattern; he may eventually get
around to actually reading the text. If he doesn't then that's OK with him,
too. My fiancee has often told me that she doesn't really care whether or
not something works as long as it looks and smells pretty.

  Different strokes for different folks. One's not better than the other,
just different.

> Your reference to xdvi is spot on -- but the LyX output has to be
> reprocessed each time, a matter of little consequence in reality. But an
> anathema to the wordprocessor crowd.

  Could be. I never discussed this with a winWord user. And my book,
admittedly short at its current 155 pages, still compiles acceptably fast on
my ancient PII/333MHz workstation with 328M RAM.

> I repeat my argument that it is the difference in monitor resolution that
> forces the wordprocessors to use inferior typesetting -- if they used
> better typesetting then their screen would no longer reflect what was
> being printed. I appreciate that it's the cart driving the horse but I
> believe that is what's happening.

  The interesting thing is that I see page appearance in
OpenOffice.org-1.1.2 that looks really bad. But, when it's printed the
uneveness goes away and it looks just fine. Shrug. Again, it may well be
that I'm not doing page layout for a magazine or advertisement and I'm not
oriented toward microtwiddling the appearance.

  I'm reading The LaTeX Companion, Second Edition now. I'm fascinated at the
degree of control one can assert over pages, paragraphs, individual
typographic elements. In the back of my mind is the thought, "perhaps, some
day, I'll need to design a nice layout for some document and this will be a
really good reference on how to do it". In the front of my mind is the
thought, "nice. But, so what? The defaults -- and the publisher's .sty --
are just fine with me. Write and ignore the details."

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Varun Reddy]

I have chosen ispell from the drop down box in
LyX->Preferences->Language settings->Spellchecker->Spell checker
program

In the drop down box i have the options
ispell
aspell
hspell

Only the program names are listed there, they do not have the complete
path to the files. Is that ok?

Also, this is the output i get using the terminal command prompt:

--
varun:~ varun$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
varun:~ varun$ ispell
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 08/01/01
word: tree
ok

word: 
--

So i guess my path variable is correct and ispell works from the
command prompt.
I don't have aspell or cocoAspell yet. i will try to install them and
check if they work for me.

varun

Re: mac os x and ispell

[Varun Reddy]

Just installed the aspell and aspell-en packages using Fink.

This is the output in Terminal;


varun:~ varun$ aspell -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.4.1)
varun:~ varun$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
varun:~ varun$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
varun:~ varun$ aspell -v
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.50.4.1)
varun:~ varun$ ispell
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 08/01/01
word: ^C
varun:~ varun$ 
--

Spellchecker in LyX now works with aspell. I guess this does solve my
problem though i am not sure why ispell doesnt work from within LyX.

Thanks for the help.

varun

Re: two simple questions

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Harold Mouras wrote:

> 1) in a Lyx document in which the margins are set for some default
> dimensions, how can I change these dimensions only for one page of the
> document. I think I have to use the command \thispagestyle, but what would
> be for example the command line for no margin;

Harold,

  \pagestyle and \thispagestyle apply to headers and footers. There are a
couple of packages, KOMA and memoir come immediately to mind, that permit
you to alter the page layout to your satisfaction. However, you need to be
more specific regarding which margin you want to alter.

  If it's the vertical text area, then \enlargethispage*{size} can add or
subtract a line or two from the page length to keep page formatting more
visually appealing.

  If it's the text area width, I don't know what command can be applied to
only a single page.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Andre Poenitz]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 06:19:03PM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
>   I'd like to be able to sound intelligent when my Microserf friends and
> colleagues ask, "Why LaTeX and not a word processor?"

One thing TeX does and Word doesn't is to break a paragraph as a
whole and not line-per-line. This way TeX can ensure that a "dense" line
is not followed by a line using lots of inter-word space.

This might sound like a very tiny, unimporant detail but already a single
occurence of such a "bad" line pair is noticable, even from a distance.

Not to mention math type setting...

Andre' 

Re: Typeset vs. Processed Words

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Andre Poenitz wrote:

> One thing TeX does and Word doesn't is to break a paragraph as a whole and
> not line-per-line. This way TeX can ensure that a "dense" line is not
> followed by a line using lots of inter-word space.

Andre',

  Good point.

Thanks,

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)

Re: two simple questions

[Uwe Stöhr]

Harold Mouras wrote:
I have two simple questions:
1) in a Lyx document in which the margins are set for some default
dimensions, how can I change these dimensions only for one page of the
document. I think I have to use the command \thispagestyle, but what would
be for example the command line for no margin;
\thispagestyle doesn't change the margins. It sets the style (with 
pagenumber or not, with headers and footers or not).

From the typographic view, you should change the margins for single 
pages only for a very good reason.
Here is one way to do it:

- Create a new document with the same margin settings as you use in your 
document. Add to its preamble the line
\usepackage{layout}
and insert the command
\layout
in ERT.
If you compile this, you will get an illustration with the actual margin 
settings. (see the attached layout.lyx)

- To change the margins in your document, insert a \clearpage or 
\cleardoublepage command at the position where the new margin settings 
should begin. \clearpage prints all unprocessed floats and creates a new 
page to prevent troubles. If you e.g. want no margins, enter the commands
\setlength{\hoffset}{-1in}
\setlength{\voffset}{-1in}
To return to the old margin settings, insert again a \clearpage and set 
the lengths to the values that are shown in the margin illustration. 
(see the attached newfile2.lyx)

2) if I choose all the float with the option "pages of float" for the
placement, do LyX and Latex make a special section at the end of the
document with all the floats in the right order?
No, it will produce float pages as soon as possible in the text. The 
floats will be in the right order.

regards Uwe
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass scrartcl
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{layout}
\end_preamble
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme ae
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 12
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 4
\tocdepth 4
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle empty

\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
layout 
\end_inset 


\the_end
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass scrartcl
\language frenchb
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme ae
\graphics default
\paperfontsize 12
\spacing single 
\papersize a4paper
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 0
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\secnumdepth 4
\tocdepth 4
\paragraph_separation skip
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language french
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle empty
\bullet 1
1
34
-1
\end_bullet
\bullet 2
2
35
-1
\end_bullet
\bullet 3
2
7
-1
\end_bullet

\layout Standard

blalba
\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
clearpage
\end_inset 


\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
hoffset}{-1in}
\newline 

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
voffset}{-1in}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

hello
\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
clearpage
\end_inset 


\layout Standard


\begin_inset ERT
status Collapsed

\layout Standard

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
hoffset}{0pt}
\newline 

\backslash 
setlength{
\backslash 
voffset}{0pt}
\end_inset 


\layout Standard

lbabla
\the_end

shortcut for export -> pdflatex

[Uwe Stöhr]

Hello LyXers,
does anybody know a way to define a shortcut for export -> pdflatex?
thanks Uwe

Bibdesk and LyX

[Varun Reddy]

Is there any reference material on how to use Bibdesk with Lyx? Also,
are there alternate programs that can be used to insert references in
a thesis.

thanks

varun