Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Karsten Heymann

Hi,

Paul schrieb:

Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page
(memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded 
NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic 
text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font.


Nimbus Roman is the name of the Times Roman clone from URW latex ships
with.


I assume there's some difference between Italic and Slanted - italic
is a properly-designed font but slanted is done programatically by 
shearing the standard roman font maybe?


Nope. Both are font variants, in italic the letters have their own
shapes (i.e. the a can be completely different), wheras slated fonts
are shifted sideways *by the font designer*.

Yours,
Karsten

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Re: Chapter with numbering but without word chapter - more questions...

2005-10-24 Thread Herbert Voss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Thanks for your advice! Eventhough I'm using the Report style, I still got
 rid of the word chapter by adding the command (eventhough I had to type it
 as Tex at the beginning of the document, it wouldn't work in the
 preamble).
 
 Do you by any chance also know, if it is now also possible to get the
 number of the chapter in front of my own chapter title instead of on top
 of it? And is there a possibility to get around the pagebreaks when a new
 chapter starts?

http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=layouts/examples#header

Herbert



Re: No one answered a simple topic :(

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just wanna know:
What's worth to use, PDF (dvipdfm) or PDF (pdflatex)? And why?


pdflatex is much faster, because PDF is produced directly from
the .tex file lyx makes.  One step only.

dvipdfm is slower, as a dvi is produced first, followed by
conversion to pdf.

Helge Hafting


Re: Figure and table side by side

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

Johan Ingvast wrote:

Yes, that's an alternative from using the 1 x 2 table. But my problem 
is with the captions. I want a table caption for the table and a 
figure caption for the figure. If I put everything in a figure float 
both captions will become Figure and vice versa.

/johan


This works for me:

1. In the preamble: \usepackage{multicol}

2. Before your figures, in ERT: \begin{multicols}{2}

3. Then the figure float with the figure, followed by the table
float with the table.  In both floats, check the Here definitely
placement options.  They should otherwise be normal floats.

4. After your floats: \end{multicols}


Now your two floats will be placed side by side because that section of the
document is set with two columns.  You will get a table caption and a
figure caption, as you really have two ordinary floats.

Example attached.  I don't know what happens if the floats appear
near the bottom of a page, you may have to tweak placement
yourself instead of relying on auto placement.

Helge Hafting
#LyX 1.4.0cvs created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
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Re: Figure and table side by side

2005-10-24 Thread samar j. singh
On Monday 24 October 2005 15:37, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Johan Ingvast wrote:
  Yes, that's an alternative from using the 1 x 2 table. But my problem
  is with the captions. I want a table caption for the table and a
  figure caption for the figure. If I put everything in a figure float
  both captions will become Figure and vice versa.
  /johan

 This works for me:

 1. In the preamble: \usepackage{multicol}

 2. Before your figures, in ERT: \begin{multicols}{2}

 3. Then the figure float with the figure, followed by the table
  float with the table.  In both floats, check the Here definitely
  placement options.  They should otherwise be normal floats.

 4. After your floats: \end{multicols}


 Now your two floats will be placed side by side because that section of the
 document is set with two columns.  You will get a table caption and a
 figure caption, as you really have two ordinary floats.

 Example attached.  I don't know what happens if the floats appear
 near the bottom of a page, you may have to tweak placement
 yourself instead of relying on auto placement.

 Helge Hafting
Thats an elegant solution.

Is it possible we can have this on the wiki?

best regards
samar


Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Paul
Karsten Heymann wrote:
 Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page
 (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded
 NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic
 text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font.
 
 Nimbus Roman is the name of the Times Roman clone from URW latex ships
 with.

Strange that it would output some text as Times Italic and others as
Nimbus Slanted, then. Maybe it's something to do with the available font
sizes Or maybe a hard-coded font in the memoir class? Or maybe one
uses \textsl and the other \textit somewhere inside the class definition?

Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of
italic or vice-versa?

Paul.



Preamble code from the layout file gets double linespacing

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

I just tried recompiling todays cvs.  Running this lyx gave strange
results.  Any latex code from the preamble gets double linespacing,
like this:

\newcommand{\mycommand}{

\something

\something

}



which go wrong, as paragraph breaks are not allowed in commands.
I am rebuilding after a make clean, to see if that makes things
better.

Helge Hafting



AW: Re: Chapter with numbering but without word chapter - more questions...

2005-10-24 Thread liliann
Thank you very much! I did manage to get the numbering in front of my own 
chapter title and also got rid of the space above the chapter title. Great!
However, I still have the space at the end of a chapter before a new chapter 
starts. Can I somehow let a new chapter start on the same page the last one 
ends?

Liliann

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Thanks for your advice! Eventhough I'm using the Report style, I still got
 rid of the word chapter by adding the command (eventhough I had to type it
 as Tex at the beginning of the document, it wouldn't work in the
 preamble).
 
 Do you by any chance also know, if it is now also possible to get the
 number of the chapter in front of my own chapter title instead of on top
 of it? And is there a possibility to get around the pagebreaks when a new
 chapter starts?

http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=layouts/examples#header

Herbert



Re: Preamble code from the layout file gets double linespacing

2005-10-24 Thread Georg Baum
Helge Hafting wrote:

 I just tried recompiling todays cvs.  Running this lyx gave strange
 results.  Any latex code from the preamble gets double linespacing,
 like this:
 
 \newcommand{\mycommand}{
 
 \something
 
 \something
 
 }
 
 
 
 which go wrong, as paragraph breaks are not allowed in commands.
 I am rebuilding after a make clean, to see if that makes things
 better.

It will not help. You found a bug in the new layout file converter. You need
to add the line

Format 2

as first non-comment line in all layout files that are already in 1.4
format.


Georg



Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Watkins
I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan



Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Daniel Watkins wrote:

I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan



In ERT, centered in a paragraph: \rule[raise]{width}{thickness}

All three arguments are measurements.  The mandatory arguments are the 
horizontal width of the line and the thickness.  The optional argument 
is how much to raise it within its paragraph.


I don't know if there is a preferred width.  I would say to use whatever 
appeals to you visually.


Paul




Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Bruce Pourciau
The Elements of Typographic Style, by Robert Bringhurst, uses 
horizontal rules only sparingly, but they extend across the type block. 
Of The Elements, the great Hermann Zapf wrote, I wish to see this book 
become the Typographers' Bible.


Bruce




On Monday, October 24, 2005, at 03:01 PM, Daniel Watkins wrote:


I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan





Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Jose Capco
Dear List,

I just figured out how to disallow LaTeX to linebreak
a math inline formula that resides in the end of a
line. Sometimes they turn so awkward when they are
breaked in the end of the line. With LaTeX I just type
a formula in an \mbox and it solves my problem.. but
what about lyx? how can I perform an \mbox in Lyx? ..
I can of course input a latex code within lyx.. but it
would be great if I could do it in a lyx way too so
that I could also have the benefit of actually seeing
to formula.

Sincerely,
Jose Capco




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Re: Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jose Capco wrote:

Dear List,

I just figured out how to disallow LaTeX to linebreak
a math inline formula that resides in the end of a
line. Sometimes they turn so awkward when they are
breaked in the end of the line. With LaTeX I just type
a formula in an \mbox and it solves my problem.. but
what about lyx? how can I perform an \mbox in Lyx? ..
I can of course input a latex code within lyx.. but it
would be great if I could do it in a lyx way too so
that I could also have the benefit of actually seeing
to formula.

Sincerely,
Jose Capco




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Try writing your formula in LyX the normal way, then putting \mbox{ in 
ERT to the left of it and } in ERT to the right of it.


Paul




Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Watkins
 The Elements of Typographic Style, by Robert Bringhurst, uses
 horizontal rules only sparingly, but they extend across the type
 block. Of The Elements, the great Hermann Zapf wrote, I wish to see
 this book become the Typographers' Bible.

That's as may be, but I'm currently using LyX to recreate an old book,
in which there /is/ a horizontal rule. :p Evidently they hadn't read
The Elements of Typographic Style in 1830... ;)

Dan



Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
(I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list)

On 24/10/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of
 italic or vice-versa?

In the original edition describing TeX Knuth is very very strident
about the need for slanted fonts, the wave of the future.  To be
honest, slanted appears to be a very good way to differentiate
input/output in the typography of human-computer interaction.  Reading
early published versions of Knuth makes the typographic rationale
behind slanted clear.  Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will
make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a
single style.  Slanted also just feels forcefully, brutally,
ultramodern, like Bauhaus typefaces or London Underground.  I expect
to see early Soviet era designers appear from a montage, shouting in
slanted slogans of better typography through science.  If you want
your readers to expect the avantegarde of suprematism and
constructivism to burst out of your text, set in slanted.

Slanted is not very good at replacing the humanities uses of italics
(/Title/, /mild emphasis/, /foreign words in body text/, etc).  In
humanities texts slanted breaks rules regarding reader familiarity
with typesetting styles, it also breaks the aesthetic beauty of well
set type.  So if we go to the heart of Knuth's initial
research/engineering problem (beautiful typography), then the Slanted
type he pushes so hard in the late 1970s, at least in humanities,
works against him.

Personally, I find that there's a great deal of beauty in well
designed Italic faces.  At the level of readability, I also find the
difference in the format of characters (a, g, etc) provided  by
italic, acts as an extra cue for me that the text has a different
meaning (other than just the slant).

yours,
Sam R.

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Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 (I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list)

Bad assumption. The list isn't broken.

 Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for
 typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style.

So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font?

Thanks,
mike
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Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
On 25/10/05, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for
  typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style.

 So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font?

This is my recollection of Knuth's assertion[1].  Then again, those
kinds of big assertions often come with new products (I did it
overnight, the permutations were easy and attractive).  I've never
touched metafont, other than enjoying the beauty of its results,
computer modern.  I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has made
beautiful families of fonts from metafont.

yours,
Sam R.

[1] Knuth, Donald E. /TeX and METAFONT: new directions in
typesetting/. Bedford, Mass. : Digital Press, 1979. (cyclostyled from
conference papers).


Re: Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Jose Capco

 Try writing your formula in LyX the normal way, then
 putting \mbox{ in 
 ERT to the left of it and } in ERT to the right of
 it.
 
 Paul

I just feared that.. so the answer to my question is
actually no but yes , oh well.. I guess there is no
other way. Thanks

Sincerely,
Jose Capco



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Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Karsten Heymann

Hi,

Paul schrieb:

Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page
(memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded 
NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic 
text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font.


Nimbus Roman is the name of the Times Roman clone from URW latex ships
with.


I assume there's some difference between Italic and Slanted - italic
is a properly-designed font but slanted is done programatically by 
shearing the standard roman font maybe?


Nope. Both are font variants, in italic the letters have their own
shapes (i.e. the a can be completely different), wheras slated fonts
are shifted sideways *by the font designer*.

Yours,
Karsten

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| Fon: +49 431 880-1186 |Netzwerkteam des Ökologiezentrum|
| Fax: +49 431 880-4083 | http://www.ecology.uni-kiel.de |
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Re: Chapter with numbering but without word chapter - more questions...

2005-10-24 Thread Herbert Voss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Thanks for your advice! Eventhough I'm using the Report style, I still got
 rid of the word chapter by adding the command (eventhough I had to type it
 as Tex at the beginning of the document, it wouldn't work in the
 preamble).
 
 Do you by any chance also know, if it is now also possible to get the
 number of the chapter in front of my own chapter title instead of on top
 of it? And is there a possibility to get around the pagebreaks when a new
 chapter starts?

http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=layouts/examples#header

Herbert



Re: No one answered a simple topic :(

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just wanna know:
What's worth to use, PDF (dvipdfm) or PDF (pdflatex)? And why?


pdflatex is much faster, because PDF is produced directly from
the .tex file lyx makes.  One step only.

dvipdfm is slower, as a dvi is produced first, followed by
conversion to pdf.

Helge Hafting


Re: Figure and table side by side

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

Johan Ingvast wrote:

Yes, that's an alternative from using the 1 x 2 table. But my problem 
is with the captions. I want a table caption for the table and a 
figure caption for the figure. If I put everything in a figure float 
both captions will become Figure and vice versa.

/johan


This works for me:

1. In the preamble: \usepackage{multicol}

2. Before your figures, in ERT: \begin{multicols}{2}

3. Then the figure float with the figure, followed by the table
float with the table.  In both floats, check the Here definitely
placement options.  They should otherwise be normal floats.

4. After your floats: \end{multicols}


Now your two floats will be placed side by side because that section of the
document is set with two columns.  You will get a table caption and a
figure caption, as you really have two ordinary floats.

Example attached.  I don't know what happens if the floats appear
near the bottom of a page, you may have to tweak placement
yourself instead of relying on auto placement.

Helge Hafting
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usebox=none
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Re: Figure and table side by side

2005-10-24 Thread samar j. singh
On Monday 24 October 2005 15:37, Helge Hafting wrote:
 Johan Ingvast wrote:
  Yes, that's an alternative from using the 1 x 2 table. But my problem
  is with the captions. I want a table caption for the table and a
  figure caption for the figure. If I put everything in a figure float
  both captions will become Figure and vice versa.
  /johan

 This works for me:

 1. In the preamble: \usepackage{multicol}

 2. Before your figures, in ERT: \begin{multicols}{2}

 3. Then the figure float with the figure, followed by the table
  float with the table.  In both floats, check the Here definitely
  placement options.  They should otherwise be normal floats.

 4. After your floats: \end{multicols}


 Now your two floats will be placed side by side because that section of the
 document is set with two columns.  You will get a table caption and a
 figure caption, as you really have two ordinary floats.

 Example attached.  I don't know what happens if the floats appear
 near the bottom of a page, you may have to tweak placement
 yourself instead of relying on auto placement.

 Helge Hafting
Thats an elegant solution.

Is it possible we can have this on the wiki?

best regards
samar


Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Paul
Karsten Heymann wrote:
 Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page
 (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded
 NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic
 text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font.
 
 Nimbus Roman is the name of the Times Roman clone from URW latex ships
 with.

Strange that it would output some text as Times Italic and others as
Nimbus Slanted, then. Maybe it's something to do with the available font
sizes Or maybe a hard-coded font in the memoir class? Or maybe one
uses \textsl and the other \textit somewhere inside the class definition?

Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of
italic or vice-versa?

Paul.



Preamble code from the layout file gets double linespacing

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

I just tried recompiling todays cvs.  Running this lyx gave strange
results.  Any latex code from the preamble gets double linespacing,
like this:

\newcommand{\mycommand}{

\something

\something

}



which go wrong, as paragraph breaks are not allowed in commands.
I am rebuilding after a make clean, to see if that makes things
better.

Helge Hafting



AW: Re: Chapter with numbering but without word chapter - more questions...

2005-10-24 Thread liliann
Thank you very much! I did manage to get the numbering in front of my own 
chapter title and also got rid of the space above the chapter title. Great!
However, I still have the space at the end of a chapter before a new chapter 
starts. Can I somehow let a new chapter start on the same page the last one 
ends?

Liliann

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Thanks for your advice! Eventhough I'm using the Report style, I still got
 rid of the word chapter by adding the command (eventhough I had to type it
 as Tex at the beginning of the document, it wouldn't work in the
 preamble).
 
 Do you by any chance also know, if it is now also possible to get the
 number of the chapter in front of my own chapter title instead of on top
 of it? And is there a possibility to get around the pagebreaks when a new
 chapter starts?

http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=layouts/examples#header

Herbert



Re: Preamble code from the layout file gets double linespacing

2005-10-24 Thread Georg Baum
Helge Hafting wrote:

 I just tried recompiling todays cvs.  Running this lyx gave strange
 results.  Any latex code from the preamble gets double linespacing,
 like this:
 
 \newcommand{\mycommand}{
 
 \something
 
 \something
 
 }
 
 
 
 which go wrong, as paragraph breaks are not allowed in commands.
 I am rebuilding after a make clean, to see if that makes things
 better.

It will not help. You found a bug in the new layout file converter. You need
to add the line

Format 2

as first non-comment line in all layout files that are already in 1.4
format.


Georg



Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Watkins
I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan



Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Daniel Watkins wrote:

I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan



In ERT, centered in a paragraph: \rule[raise]{width}{thickness}

All three arguments are measurements.  The mandatory arguments are the 
horizontal width of the line and the thickness.  The optional argument 
is how much to raise it within its paragraph.


I don't know if there is a preferred width.  I would say to use whatever 
appeals to you visually.


Paul




Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Bruce Pourciau
The Elements of Typographic Style, by Robert Bringhurst, uses 
horizontal rules only sparingly, but they extend across the type block. 
Of The Elements, the great Hermann Zapf wrote, I wish to see this book 
become the Typographers' Bible.


Bruce




On Monday, October 24, 2005, at 03:01 PM, Daniel Watkins wrote:


I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan





Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Jose Capco
Dear List,

I just figured out how to disallow LaTeX to linebreak
a math inline formula that resides in the end of a
line. Sometimes they turn so awkward when they are
breaked in the end of the line. With LaTeX I just type
a formula in an \mbox and it solves my problem.. but
what about lyx? how can I perform an \mbox in Lyx? ..
I can of course input a latex code within lyx.. but it
would be great if I could do it in a lyx way too so
that I could also have the benefit of actually seeing
to formula.

Sincerely,
Jose Capco




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Re: Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jose Capco wrote:

Dear List,

I just figured out how to disallow LaTeX to linebreak
a math inline formula that resides in the end of a
line. Sometimes they turn so awkward when they are
breaked in the end of the line. With LaTeX I just type
a formula in an \mbox and it solves my problem.. but
what about lyx? how can I perform an \mbox in Lyx? ..
I can of course input a latex code within lyx.. but it
would be great if I could do it in a lyx way too so
that I could also have the benefit of actually seeing
to formula.

Sincerely,
Jose Capco




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Try writing your formula in LyX the normal way, then putting \mbox{ in 
ERT to the left of it and } in ERT to the right of it.


Paul




Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Watkins
 The Elements of Typographic Style, by Robert Bringhurst, uses
 horizontal rules only sparingly, but they extend across the type
 block. Of The Elements, the great Hermann Zapf wrote, I wish to see
 this book become the Typographers' Bible.

That's as may be, but I'm currently using LyX to recreate an old book,
in which there /is/ a horizontal rule. :p Evidently they hadn't read
The Elements of Typographic Style in 1830... ;)

Dan



Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
(I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list)

On 24/10/05, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of
 italic or vice-versa?

In the original edition describing TeX Knuth is very very strident
about the need for slanted fonts, the wave of the future.  To be
honest, slanted appears to be a very good way to differentiate
input/output in the typography of human-computer interaction.  Reading
early published versions of Knuth makes the typographic rationale
behind slanted clear.  Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will
make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a
single style.  Slanted also just feels forcefully, brutally,
ultramodern, like Bauhaus typefaces or London Underground.  I expect
to see early Soviet era designers appear from a montage, shouting in
slanted slogans of better typography through science.  If you want
your readers to expect the avantegarde of suprematism and
constructivism to burst out of your text, set in slanted.

Slanted is not very good at replacing the humanities uses of italics
(/Title/, /mild emphasis/, /foreign words in body text/, etc).  In
humanities texts slanted breaks rules regarding reader familiarity
with typesetting styles, it also breaks the aesthetic beauty of well
set type.  So if we go to the heart of Knuth's initial
research/engineering problem (beautiful typography), then the Slanted
type he pushes so hard in the late 1970s, at least in humanities,
works against him.

Personally, I find that there's a great deal of beauty in well
designed Italic faces.  At the level of readability, I also find the
difference in the format of characters (a, g, etc) provided  by
italic, acts as an extra cue for me that the text has a different
meaning (other than just the slant).

yours,
Sam R.

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Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 (I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list)

Bad assumption. The list isn't broken.

 Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for
 typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style.

So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font?

Thanks,
mike
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Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
On 25/10/05, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for
  typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style.

 So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font?

This is my recollection of Knuth's assertion[1].  Then again, those
kinds of big assertions often come with new products (I did it
overnight, the permutations were easy and attractive).  I've never
touched metafont, other than enjoying the beauty of its results,
computer modern.  I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has made
beautiful families of fonts from metafont.

yours,
Sam R.

[1] Knuth, Donald E. /TeX and METAFONT: new directions in
typesetting/. Bedford, Mass. : Digital Press, 1979. (cyclostyled from
conference papers).


Re: Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Jose Capco

 Try writing your formula in LyX the normal way, then
 putting \mbox{ in 
 ERT to the left of it and } in ERT to the right of
 it.
 
 Paul

I just feared that.. so the answer to my question is
actually no but yes , oh well.. I guess there is no
other way. Thanks

Sincerely,
Jose Capco



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Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Karsten Heymann

Hi,

Paul schrieb:

Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page
(memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded 
NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic 
text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font.


Nimbus Roman is the name of the "Times Roman" clone from URW latex ships
with.


I assume there's some difference between Italic and Slanted - italic
is a properly-designed font but slanted is done programatically by 
shearing the standard roman font maybe?


Nope. Both are font variants, in italic the letters have their own
shapes (i.e. the "a" can be completely different), wheras slated fonts
are "shifted" sideways *by the font designer*.

Yours,
Karsten

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Re: Chapter with numbering but without word "chapter" - more questions...

2005-10-24 Thread Herbert Voss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Thanks for your advice! Eventhough I'm using the Report style, I still got
> rid of the word chapter by adding the command (eventhough I had to type it
> as Tex at the beginning of the document, it wouldn't work in the
> preamble).
> 
> Do you by any chance also know, if it is now also possible to get the
> number of the chapter in front of my own chapter title instead of on top
> of it? And is there a possibility to get around the pagebreaks when a new
> chapter starts?

http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=layouts/examples#header

Herbert



Re: No one answered a simple topic :(

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just wanna know:
What's worth to use, PDF (dvipdfm) or PDF (pdflatex)? And why?


pdflatex is much faster, because PDF is produced directly from
the .tex file lyx makes.  One step only.

dvipdfm is slower, as a dvi is produced first, followed by
conversion to pdf.

Helge Hafting


Re: Figure and table side by side

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

Johan Ingvast wrote:

Yes, that's an alternative from using the 1 x 2 table. But my problem 
is with the captions. I want a table caption for the table and a 
figure caption for the figure. If I put everything in a figure float 
both captions will become "Figure" and vice versa.

/johan


This works for me:

1. In the preamble: \usepackage{multicol}

2. Before your figures, in ERT: \begin{multicols}{2}

3. Then the figure float with the figure, followed by the table
float with the table.  In both floats, check the "Here definitely"
placement options.  They should otherwise be normal floats.

4. After your floats: \end{multicols}


Now your two floats will be placed side by side because that section of the
document is set with two columns.  You will get a table caption and a
figure caption, as you really have two ordinary floats.

Example attached.  I don't know what happens if the floats appear
near the bottom of a page, you may have to tweak placement
yourself instead of relying on auto placement.

Helge Hafting
#LyX 1.4.0cvs created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
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Re: Figure and table side by side

2005-10-24 Thread samar j. singh
On Monday 24 October 2005 15:37, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Johan Ingvast wrote:
> > Yes, that's an alternative from using the 1 x 2 table. But my problem
> > is with the captions. I want a table caption for the table and a
> > figure caption for the figure. If I put everything in a figure float
> > both captions will become "Figure" and vice versa.
> > /johan
>
> This works for me:
>
> 1. In the preamble: \usepackage{multicol}
>
> 2. Before your figures, in ERT: \begin{multicols}{2}
>
> 3. Then the figure float with the figure, followed by the table
>  float with the table.  In both floats, check the "Here definitely"
>  placement options.  They should otherwise be normal floats.
>
> 4. After your floats: \end{multicols}
>
>
> Now your two floats will be placed side by side because that section of the
> document is set with two columns.  You will get a table caption and a
> figure caption, as you really have two ordinary floats.
>
> Example attached.  I don't know what happens if the floats appear
> near the bottom of a page, you may have to tweak placement
> yourself instead of relying on auto placement.
>
> Helge Hafting
Thats an elegant solution.

Is it possible we can have this on the wiki?

best regards
samar


Re: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Paul
Karsten Heymann wrote:
>> Also, the italic chapter names in the header at the top of every page
>> (memoir document class) were coming out as an embedded
>> NimbusRomNo9L-Regu-Slant_167 font for some reason. All other italic
>> text was just using a standard Times-Italic non-embedded font.
> 
> Nimbus Roman is the name of the "Times Roman" clone from URW latex ships
> with.

Strange that it would output some text as Times Italic and others as
Nimbus Slanted, then. Maybe it's something to do with the available font
sizes Or maybe a hard-coded font in the "memoir" class? Or maybe one
uses \textsl and the other \textit somewhere inside the class definition?

Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of
italic or vice-versa?

Paul.



Preamble code from the layout file gets "double linespacing"

2005-10-24 Thread Helge Hafting

I just tried recompiling todays cvs.  Running this lyx gave strange
results.  Any latex code from the preamble gets double linespacing,
like this:

\newcommand{\mycommand}{

\something

\something

}



which go wrong, as paragraph breaks are not allowed in commands.
I am rebuilding after a make clean, to see if that makes things
better.

Helge Hafting



AW: Re: Chapter with numbering but without word "chapter" - more questions...

2005-10-24 Thread liliann
Thank you very much! I did manage to get the numbering in front of my own 
chapter title and also got rid of the space above the chapter title. Great!
However, I still have the space at the end of a chapter before a new chapter 
starts. Can I somehow let a new chapter start on the same page the last one 
ends?

Liliann

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Thanks for your advice! Eventhough I'm using the Report style, I still got
>> rid of the word chapter by adding the command (eventhough I had to type it
>> as Tex at the beginning of the document, it wouldn't work in the
>> preamble).
>> 
>> Do you by any chance also know, if it is now also possible to get the
>> number of the chapter in front of my own chapter title instead of on top
>> of it? And is there a possibility to get around the pagebreaks when a new
>> chapter starts?
>
>http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=layouts/examples#header
>
>Herbert
>


Re: Preamble code from the layout file gets "double linespacing"

2005-10-24 Thread Georg Baum
Helge Hafting wrote:

> I just tried recompiling todays cvs.  Running this lyx gave strange
> results.  Any latex code from the preamble gets double linespacing,
> like this:
> 
> \newcommand{\mycommand}{
> 
> \something
> 
> \something
> 
> }
> 
> 
> 
> which go wrong, as paragraph breaks are not allowed in commands.
> I am rebuilding after a make clean, to see if that makes things
> better.

It will not help. You found a bug in the new layout file converter. You need
to add the line

Format 2

as first non-comment line in all layout files that are already in 1.4
format.


Georg



Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Watkins
I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan



Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Daniel Watkins wrote:

I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan



In ERT, centered in a paragraph: \rule[raise]{width}{thickness}

All three arguments are measurements.  The mandatory arguments are the 
horizontal width of the line and the thickness.  The optional argument 
is how much to raise it within its paragraph.


I don't know if there is a preferred width.  I would say to use whatever 
appeals to you visually.


Paul




Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Bruce Pourciau
The Elements of Typographic Style, by Robert Bringhurst, uses 
horizontal rules only sparingly, but they extend across the type block. 
Of The Elements, the great Hermann Zapf wrote, "I wish to see this book 
become the Typographers' Bible."


Bruce




On Monday, October 24, 2005, at 03:01 PM, Daniel Watkins wrote:


I'm looking to place a horizontal rule in a document I'm currently
working on. However, the standard horizontal rule is ugly (it just goes
from one side of the page to the other). How can I tell LyX to put in a
line that isn't as long (and what's a typographically good length to
have it?)?

Thanks in advance,
Dan





Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Jose Capco
Dear List,

I just figured out how to disallow LaTeX to linebreak
a math inline formula that resides in the end of a
line. Sometimes they turn so awkward when they are
breaked in the end of the line. With LaTeX I just type
a formula in an \mbox and it solves my problem.. but
what about lyx? how can I perform an \mbox in Lyx? ..
I can of course input a latex code within lyx.. but it
would be great if I could do it in a "lyx" way too so
that I could also have the benefit of actually seeing
to formula.

Sincerely,
Jose Capco




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Re: Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jose Capco wrote:

Dear List,

I just figured out how to disallow LaTeX to linebreak
a math inline formula that resides in the end of a
line. Sometimes they turn so awkward when they are
breaked in the end of the line. With LaTeX I just type
a formula in an \mbox and it solves my problem.. but
what about lyx? how can I perform an \mbox in Lyx? ..
I can of course input a latex code within lyx.. but it
would be great if I could do it in a "lyx" way too so
that I could also have the benefit of actually seeing
to formula.

Sincerely,
Jose Capco




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Try writing your formula in LyX the normal way, then putting \mbox{ in 
ERT to the left of it and } in ERT to the right of it.


Paul




Re: Horizontal Rule

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Watkins
> The Elements of Typographic Style, by Robert Bringhurst, uses
> horizontal rules only sparingly, but they extend across the type
> block. Of The Elements, the great Hermann Zapf wrote, "I wish to see
> this book become the Typographers' Bible."

That's as may be, but I'm currently using LyX to recreate an old book,
in which there /is/ a horizontal rule. :p Evidently they hadn't read
"The Elements of Typographic Style" in 1830... ;)

Dan



Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
(I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list)

On 24/10/05, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there any typographical reason why you might want slanted instead of
> italic or vice-versa?

In the original edition describing TeX Knuth is very very strident
about the need for slanted fonts, the wave of the future.  To be
honest, slanted appears to be a very good way to differentiate
input/output in the typography of human-computer interaction.  Reading
early published versions of Knuth makes the typographic rationale
behind slanted clear.  Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will
make it easier for typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a
single style.  Slanted also just feels forcefully, brutally,
ultramodern, like Bauhaus typefaces or London Underground.  I expect
to see early Soviet era designers appear from a montage, shouting in
slanted slogans of better typography through science.  If you want
your readers to expect the avantegarde of suprematism and
constructivism to burst out of your text, set in slanted.

Slanted is not very good at replacing the humanities uses of italics
(/Title/, /mild emphasis/, /foreign words in body text/, etc).  In
humanities texts slanted breaks rules regarding reader familiarity
with typesetting styles, it also breaks the aesthetic beauty of well
set type.  So if we go to the heart of Knuth's initial
research/engineering problem (beautiful typography), then the Slanted
type he pushes so hard in the late 1970s, at least in humanities,
works against him.

Personally, I find that there's a great deal of beauty in well
designed Italic faces.  At the level of readability, I also find the
difference in the format of characters (a, g, etc) provided  by
italic, acts as an extra cue for me that the text has a different
meaning (other than just the slant).

yours,
Sam R.

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Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> (I assumed the Reply-to: would be the list)

Bad assumption. The list isn't broken.

> Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for
> typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style.

So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font?

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Re: Fwd: Choice of fonts in LaTeX

2005-10-24 Thread Sam Russell
On 25/10/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Knuth also argues in METAFONT that slanted will make it easier for
> > typeface designers to produce multiple faces from a single style.
>
> So can they get a slanted face out of an MM font?

This is my recollection of Knuth's assertion[1].  Then again, those
kinds of big assertions often come with new products (I did it
overnight, the permutations were easy and attractive).  I've never
touched metafont, other than enjoying the beauty of its results,
computer modern.  I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has made
beautiful families of fonts from metafont.

yours,
Sam R.

[1] Knuth, Donald E. /TeX and METAFONT: new directions in
typesetting/. Bedford, Mass. : Digital Press, 1979. (cyclostyled from
conference papers).


Re: Is this possible in lyx?

2005-10-24 Thread Jose Capco

> Try writing your formula in LyX the normal way, then
> putting \mbox{ in 
> ERT to the left of it and } in ERT to the right of
> it.
> 
> Paul

I just feared that.. so the answer to my question is
actually "no but yes" , oh well.. I guess there is no
other way. Thanks

Sincerely,
Jose Capco



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