Re: DocBook Support?

2008-01-02 Thread Ryan Cross
Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx
(with any current versions)?

Thanks!
-Ryan

On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 AM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Jose,

 Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using
 Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting.

 Thanks,
 Ryan


 On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FWIW,
  you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is
  only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm
  still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx
  for obvious reasons
 
  Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and 
  http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/
 
  I eagerly and anxiously await your input.
 
  -Ryan
 
  On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly
   interested in
 docbook though)
   
  I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I
   will
return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month
   fortunately). :-)
  
   We're all waiting for this ^_^.
  
   Regards,
   Liviu
  
 
 
 




How I could change the word _Chapter_ in a book-style document

2008-01-02 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo
Hi list, 

Firstly... happy new year 2008, best wishes to everyone.

I'd like to know if it would be possible to change the word
Chapter (Capítulo in my local language) to another one. I usually
write book-style documents, but I'd prefer to see another word at the
beginning of each chapter, such as Tema or Lección (Lesson,...)
instead, due the context.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel



Re: How I could change the word _Chapter_ in a book-style document

2008-01-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo wrote:
 Firstly... happy new year 2008, best wishes to everyone.

Thanks. Same to you.

 I'd like to know if it would be possible to change the word
 Chapter (Capítulo in my local language) to another one. I usually
 write book-style documents, but I'd prefer to see another word at the
 beginning of each chapter, such as Tema or Lección (Lesson,...)
 instead, due the context.

See this FAQ entry (the resp. macro is \chaptername):
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Unsorted#toc16

Jürgen


Re: Double quotes not working correctly

2008-01-02 Thread Bruno
Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It works fine here on Fedora 8 (Linux). Find an old document of yours
 with the desired quotes, and open it on your current version of LyX.
 Do you see the quotes correctly?
 
 Paul
 
 

Yes, it does, and I can operate with them (copy/paste). The problem is not in
showing them, but in typing. 





Beamer Problems

2008-01-02 Thread David Rosenberg
Hi,
   I'm running LyX 1.5.3 on Windows, and am having trouble with compiling
the Beamer Example (beamerlyxexample1.lyx).  I'm pasting in part of my log
below.  I also have problems with one of my older beamer presentations I
made with an earlier version of LyX.  For that presentation, I get an error
-- after exporting to Latex and trying to compile, I get the following:

ERROR: Package mathptmx Error: The symbols \jmath, \amalg and \coprod

--- TeX said ---
(mathptmx)are not available with this package.

See the mathptmx package documentation for explanation.
Type  H return  for immediate help.
 ...

l.290 \lyxframeend
  {}\section{Kernel Cotraining}

Anyway, the first error in the compilation of the Beamer Example is the
exact same as the error
ERROR: Undefined control sequence.

--- TeX said ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] #1#2#3#4-\pgfsincos
  {#3}\setlength [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{#1}\addtolengt...
l.1219 \lyxframeend
   {}\lyxagainframe{6hierarchy}
--- HELP ---
TeX encountered an unknown command name. You probably misspelled the
name. If this message occurs when a LaTeX command is being processed,
the command is probably in the wrong place---for example, the error
can be produced by an \item command that's not inside a list-making
environment. The error can also be caused by a missing \documentclass
command.

Thanks,
David


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2008-01-02 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi all,
I'm also a great fan of outlining serious texts and have also made some 
experiences with kdissert (being a fan of MindMaps still much longer 
than of any advanced text system).


OTOH I'm using LyX-1.5.3 now for quite a while and am VERY content for 
my (restricted) expectations. Using the outlining possibilities also to 
some degree.



To answer Abdel's question on the functionality lacking (I just checked 
with 1.5.3 official release as of Dec 17th, 2007):


+++ It is already very helpful to be able to move entire paragraphs 
using the keyboard when working in the text window.


*** keyboard driven jump between the text window and the table of 
contents window . AFAIK this is not yet possible. The other direction 
seems to work simply with tab (and to my surprise with shift+tab too).
What about shift tab for the lacking jump. Would be similar to other 
apps like e.g. thunderbird (to jump between folders panel and messages 
panel)


*** keyboard accessibility of the 5 buttons at the lower border of the 
toc window.



This would mean that everything, i.e. writing and outlining could be 
done using only the keyboard. IMHO this is by far the most efficient way 
to produce texts.



Should I enter enhancement requests into bugzilla?


Cheers

Hellmut



Steve Litt schrieb:

On Monday 31 December 2007 05:11, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

For the first time I've gone beyond book outlining in VO (VimOutliner)
and am actually writing the book (via body text) in VO. What this does is
eliminate the artificial demarkation between outlining and writing.

It's very possible, and in fact quite likely, that some chapters will be
ready for writing long before others are fully outlined. In the past this
led me to either retard writing certain chapters, or prematurely convert
to LyX.

Now, to an extent, I can write one chapter while outlining another, and
have everything come out well in the end.

This is not a rigorous process. The VO writing will be only a very rough
draft. It can't include things like Tips, Notes, character styles etc.
Well, it could, but not without time consuming difficulty. Instead, this
is an informal extension of traditional outlining. The goal is still to
have the book really take shape in LyX.

So why don't you use LyX-1.5 directly then? Or more specifically what is
missing in LyX outlining facilities? 


He Abdel,

I haven't yet used 1.5, but when I do I'm pretty sure I'll find one thing 
missing in its outlining facilities: speed.


VimOutliner (VO) was built for speed from the bottom up. 100% keyboard driven, 
no need to reach for a mouse. It uses the ultra touch-typist-friendly Vim as 
an engine, and adds ultra-quick ,, commands for managing the outline. I can 
compose and organize as fast as I can think -- a huge advantage when planning 
a book.



I can think of two: 


- section folding/unfolding: I don't really understand why this is so
helpful for some. 


I couldn't live without folding (which in general outliner-speak is called 
expand/collapse. It allows you to view the big picture and then drill down.  
It's a way of impedance matching the work to the mind. It's not about 
navigation, it's about getting the optimal view of the work.


IMO, the ability to jump from section to section by 
clicking in the outlining dock is enough.


That sounds like an excellent feature. Perhaps it can be put into VimOutliner.



- dragdrop sections in the outlining dock: right now you have to click
one of the 4 outline buttons.


Yes, it sounds like dragdrop section moving would speed things up. VimOutliner 
doesn't have it either. With VO, you collapse the section you want to move, 
delete  with dd, move to its desired destination, and press p or P as 
appropriate. This sounds very Mickey Mouse when described, but it's not that 
bad.



Both features are not too difficult to implement provided that you find
a volunteer to implement them ;-)

If you (and others) could describe what you would like to have in the
Wiki, it would certainly be helpful.


I'm not too good with a Wiki, so I'll describe VimOutliner's features right 
here:


Promote/demote -- headlines or whole trees
Expand/collapse  (also called folding)
Expand/collapse by headline, by tree, and outline wide
Body text that wraps (headlines don't wrap)
Checkboxes with percentage completion
Interoutline linking
Executable lines -- any content can be viewed/executed from an outline
Lightning quick interface for the touch typist

I'm not sure all of the preceding are necessary for an document's outline 
mode.


HTH

SteveT
 
Steve Litt

Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts



--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq



Re: DocBook Support?

2008-01-02 Thread Ryan Cross
Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx
(with any current versions)?

Thanks!
-Ryan

On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 AM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Jose,

 Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using
 Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting.

 Thanks,
 Ryan


 On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FWIW,
  you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is
  only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm
  still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx
  for obvious reasons
 
  Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and 
  http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/
 
  I eagerly and anxiously await your input.
 
  -Ryan
 
  On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly
   interested in
 docbook though)
   
  I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I
   will
return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month
   fortunately). :-)
  
   We're all waiting for this ^_^.
  
   Regards,
   Liviu
  
 
 
 




How I could change the word _Chapter_ in a book-style document

2008-01-02 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo
Hi list, 

Firstly... happy new year 2008, best wishes to everyone.

I'd like to know if it would be possible to change the word
Chapter (Capítulo in my local language) to another one. I usually
write book-style documents, but I'd prefer to see another word at the
beginning of each chapter, such as Tema or Lección (Lesson,...)
instead, due the context.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel



Re: How I could change the word _Chapter_ in a book-style document

2008-01-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo wrote:
 Firstly... happy new year 2008, best wishes to everyone.

Thanks. Same to you.

 I'd like to know if it would be possible to change the word
 Chapter (Capítulo in my local language) to another one. I usually
 write book-style documents, but I'd prefer to see another word at the
 beginning of each chapter, such as Tema or Lección (Lesson,...)
 instead, due the context.

See this FAQ entry (the resp. macro is \chaptername):
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Unsorted#toc16

Jürgen


Re: Double quotes not working correctly

2008-01-02 Thread Bruno
Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It works fine here on Fedora 8 (Linux). Find an old document of yours
 with the desired quotes, and open it on your current version of LyX.
 Do you see the quotes correctly?
 
 Paul
 
 

Yes, it does, and I can operate with them (copy/paste). The problem is not in
showing them, but in typing. 





Beamer Problems

2008-01-02 Thread David Rosenberg
Hi,
   I'm running LyX 1.5.3 on Windows, and am having trouble with compiling
the Beamer Example (beamerlyxexample1.lyx).  I'm pasting in part of my log
below.  I also have problems with one of my older beamer presentations I
made with an earlier version of LyX.  For that presentation, I get an error
-- after exporting to Latex and trying to compile, I get the following:

ERROR: Package mathptmx Error: The symbols \jmath, \amalg and \coprod

--- TeX said ---
(mathptmx)are not available with this package.

See the mathptmx package documentation for explanation.
Type  H return  for immediate help.
 ...

l.290 \lyxframeend
  {}\section{Kernel Cotraining}

Anyway, the first error in the compilation of the Beamer Example is the
exact same as the error
ERROR: Undefined control sequence.

--- TeX said ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] #1#2#3#4-\pgfsincos
  {#3}\setlength [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{#1}\addtolengt...
l.1219 \lyxframeend
   {}\lyxagainframe{6hierarchy}
--- HELP ---
TeX encountered an unknown command name. You probably misspelled the
name. If this message occurs when a LaTeX command is being processed,
the command is probably in the wrong place---for example, the error
can be produced by an \item command that's not inside a list-making
environment. The error can also be caused by a missing \documentclass
command.

Thanks,
David


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2008-01-02 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi all,
I'm also a great fan of outlining serious texts and have also made some 
experiences with kdissert (being a fan of MindMaps still much longer 
than of any advanced text system).


OTOH I'm using LyX-1.5.3 now for quite a while and am VERY content for 
my (restricted) expectations. Using the outlining possibilities also to 
some degree.



To answer Abdel's question on the functionality lacking (I just checked 
with 1.5.3 official release as of Dec 17th, 2007):


+++ It is already very helpful to be able to move entire paragraphs 
using the keyboard when working in the text window.


*** keyboard driven jump between the text window and the table of 
contents window . AFAIK this is not yet possible. The other direction 
seems to work simply with tab (and to my surprise with shift+tab too).
What about shift tab for the lacking jump. Would be similar to other 
apps like e.g. thunderbird (to jump between folders panel and messages 
panel)


*** keyboard accessibility of the 5 buttons at the lower border of the 
toc window.



This would mean that everything, i.e. writing and outlining could be 
done using only the keyboard. IMHO this is by far the most efficient way 
to produce texts.



Should I enter enhancement requests into bugzilla?


Cheers

Hellmut



Steve Litt schrieb:

On Monday 31 December 2007 05:11, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

For the first time I've gone beyond book outlining in VO (VimOutliner)
and am actually writing the book (via body text) in VO. What this does is
eliminate the artificial demarkation between outlining and writing.

It's very possible, and in fact quite likely, that some chapters will be
ready for writing long before others are fully outlined. In the past this
led me to either retard writing certain chapters, or prematurely convert
to LyX.

Now, to an extent, I can write one chapter while outlining another, and
have everything come out well in the end.

This is not a rigorous process. The VO writing will be only a very rough
draft. It can't include things like Tips, Notes, character styles etc.
Well, it could, but not without time consuming difficulty. Instead, this
is an informal extension of traditional outlining. The goal is still to
have the book really take shape in LyX.

So why don't you use LyX-1.5 directly then? Or more specifically what is
missing in LyX outlining facilities? 


He Abdel,

I haven't yet used 1.5, but when I do I'm pretty sure I'll find one thing 
missing in its outlining facilities: speed.


VimOutliner (VO) was built for speed from the bottom up. 100% keyboard driven, 
no need to reach for a mouse. It uses the ultra touch-typist-friendly Vim as 
an engine, and adds ultra-quick ,, commands for managing the outline. I can 
compose and organize as fast as I can think -- a huge advantage when planning 
a book.



I can think of two: 


- section folding/unfolding: I don't really understand why this is so
helpful for some. 


I couldn't live without folding (which in general outliner-speak is called 
expand/collapse. It allows you to view the big picture and then drill down.  
It's a way of impedance matching the work to the mind. It's not about 
navigation, it's about getting the optimal view of the work.


IMO, the ability to jump from section to section by 
clicking in the outlining dock is enough.


That sounds like an excellent feature. Perhaps it can be put into VimOutliner.



- dragdrop sections in the outlining dock: right now you have to click
one of the 4 outline buttons.


Yes, it sounds like dragdrop section moving would speed things up. VimOutliner 
doesn't have it either. With VO, you collapse the section you want to move, 
delete  with dd, move to its desired destination, and press p or P as 
appropriate. This sounds very Mickey Mouse when described, but it's not that 
bad.



Both features are not too difficult to implement provided that you find
a volunteer to implement them ;-)

If you (and others) could describe what you would like to have in the
Wiki, it would certainly be helpful.


I'm not too good with a Wiki, so I'll describe VimOutliner's features right 
here:


Promote/demote -- headlines or whole trees
Expand/collapse  (also called folding)
Expand/collapse by headline, by tree, and outline wide
Body text that wraps (headlines don't wrap)
Checkboxes with percentage completion
Interoutline linking
Executable lines -- any content can be viewed/executed from an outline
Lightning quick interface for the touch typist

I'm not sure all of the preceding are necessary for an document's outline 
mode.


HTH

SteveT
 
Steve Litt

Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts



--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq



Re: DocBook Support?

2008-01-02 Thread Ryan Cross
Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx
(with any current versions)?

Thanks!
-Ryan

On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 AM, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Jose,
>
> Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using
> Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>
>
> On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > FWIW,
> > you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is
> > only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm
> > still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx
> > for obvious reasons
> >
> > Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and 
> > http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/
> >
> > I eagerly and anxiously await your input.
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 11/27/07, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly
> > > interested in
> > > > > docbook though)
> > > >
> > > >   I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I
> > > will
> > > > return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month
> > > fortunately). :-)
> > >
> > > We're all waiting for this ^_^.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Liviu
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


How I could change the word _Chapter_ in a book-style document

2008-01-02 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo
Hi list, 

Firstly... happy new year 2008, best wishes to everyone.

I'd like to know if it would be possible to change the word
"Chapter" (Capítulo in my local language) to another one. I usually
write book-style documents, but I'd prefer to see another word at the
beginning of each chapter, such as "Tema" or "Lección" (Lesson,...)
instead, due the context.

Thanks in advance.

Daniel



Re: How I could change the word _Chapter_ in a book-style document

2008-01-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo wrote:
> Firstly... happy new year 2008, best wishes to everyone.

Thanks. Same to you.

> I'd like to know if it would be possible to change the word
> "Chapter" (Capítulo in my local language) to another one. I usually
> write book-style documents, but I'd prefer to see another word at the
> beginning of each chapter, such as "Tema" or "Lección" (Lesson,...)
> instead, due the context.

See this FAQ entry (the resp. macro is \chaptername):
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Unsorted#toc16

Jürgen


Re: Double quotes not working correctly

2008-01-02 Thread Bruno
Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It works fine here on Fedora 8 (Linux). Find an old document of yours
> with the desired quotes, and open it on your current version of LyX.
> Do you see the quotes correctly?
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

Yes, it does, and I can operate with them (copy/paste). The problem is not in
showing them, but in typing. 





Beamer Problems

2008-01-02 Thread David Rosenberg
Hi,
   I'm running LyX 1.5.3 on Windows, and am having trouble with compiling
the Beamer Example (beamerlyxexample1.lyx).  I'm pasting in part of my log
below.  I also have problems with one of my older beamer presentations I
made with an earlier version of LyX.  For that presentation, I get an error
-- after exporting to Latex and trying to compile, I get the following:

ERROR: Package mathptmx Error: The symbols \jmath, \amalg and \coprod

--- TeX said ---
(mathptmx)are not available with this package.

See the mathptmx package documentation for explanation.
Type  H   for immediate help.
 ...

l.290 \lyxframeend
  {}\section{Kernel Cotraining}

Anyway, the first error in the compilation of the Beamer Example is the
exact same as the error
ERROR: Undefined control sequence.

--- TeX said ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] #1#2#3#4->\pgfsincos
  {#3}\setlength [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{#1}\addtolengt...
l.1219 \lyxframeend
   {}\lyxagainframe{<6>hierarchy}
--- HELP ---
TeX encountered an unknown command name. You probably misspelled the
name. If this message occurs when a LaTeX command is being processed,
the command is probably in the wrong place---for example, the error
can be produced by an \item command that's not inside a list-making
environment. The error can also be caused by a missing \documentclass
command.

Thanks,
David


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2008-01-02 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi all,
I'm also a great fan of outlining serious texts and have also made some 
experiences with kdissert (being a fan of MindMaps still much longer 
than of any advanced text system).


OTOH I'm using LyX-1.5.3 now for quite a while and am VERY content for 
my (restricted) expectations. Using the outlining possibilities also to 
some degree.



To answer Abdel's question on the functionality lacking (I just checked 
with 1.5.3 official release as of Dec 17th, 2007):


+++ It is already very helpful to be able to move entire paragraphs 
using the keyboard when working in the text window.


*** keyboard driven jump between the text window and the table of 
contents window . AFAIK this is not yet possible. The other direction 
seems to work simply with tab (and to my surprise with shift+tab too).
What about shift tab for the lacking jump. Would be similar to other 
apps like e.g. thunderbird (to jump between folders panel and messages 
panel)


*** keyboard accessibility of the 5 buttons at the lower border of the 
toc window.



This would mean that everything, i.e. writing and outlining could be 
done using only the keyboard. IMHO this is by far the most efficient way 
to produce texts.



Should I enter enhancement requests into bugzilla?


Cheers

Hellmut



Steve Litt schrieb:

On Monday 31 December 2007 05:11, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

For the first time I've gone beyond book outlining in VO (VimOutliner)
and am actually writing the book (via body text) in VO. What this does is
eliminate the artificial demarkation between outlining and writing.

It's very possible, and in fact quite likely, that some chapters will be
ready for writing long before others are fully outlined. In the past this
led me to either retard writing certain chapters, or prematurely convert
to LyX.

Now, to an extent, I can write one chapter while outlining another, and
have everything come out well in the end.

This is not a rigorous process. The VO writing will be only a very rough
draft. It can't include things like Tips, Notes, character styles etc.
Well, it could, but not without time consuming difficulty. Instead, this
is an informal extension of traditional outlining. The goal is still to
have the book really take shape in LyX.

So why don't you use LyX-1.5 directly then? Or more specifically what is
missing in LyX outlining facilities? 


He Abdel,

I haven't yet used 1.5, but when I do I'm pretty sure I'll find one thing 
missing in its outlining facilities: speed.


VimOutliner (VO) was built for speed from the bottom up. 100% keyboard driven, 
no need to reach for a mouse. It uses the ultra touch-typist-friendly Vim as 
an engine, and adds ultra-quick ,, commands for managing the outline. I can 
compose and organize as fast as I can think -- a huge advantage when planning 
a book.



I can think of two: 


- section folding/unfolding: I don't really understand why this is so
helpful for some. 


I couldn't live without folding (which in general outliner-speak is called 
expand/collapse. It allows you to view the big picture and then drill down.  
It's a way of impedance matching the work to the mind. It's not about 
navigation, it's about getting the optimal view of the work.


IMO, the ability to jump from section to section by 
clicking in the outlining dock is enough.


That sounds like an excellent feature. Perhaps it can be put into VimOutliner.



- drag sections in the outlining dock: right now you have to click
one of the 4 outline buttons.


Yes, it sounds like dragdrop section moving would speed things up. VimOutliner 
doesn't have it either. With VO, you collapse the section you want to move, 
delete  with dd, move to its desired destination, and press p or P as 
appropriate. This sounds very Mickey Mouse when described, but it's not that 
bad.



Both features are not too difficult to implement provided that you find
a volunteer to implement them ;-)

If you (and others) could describe what you would like to have in the
Wiki, it would certainly be helpful.


I'm not too good with a Wiki, so I'll describe VimOutliner's features right 
here:


Promote/demote -- headlines or whole trees
Expand/collapse  (also called folding)
Expand/collapse by headline, by tree, and outline wide
Body text that wraps (headlines don't wrap)
Checkboxes with percentage completion
Interoutline linking
Executable lines -- any content can be viewed/executed from an outline
Lightning quick interface for the touch typist

I'm not sure all of the preceding are necessary for an document's outline 
mode.


HTH

SteveT
 
Steve Litt

Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts



--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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