Re: Opening LyX-2.0 Files in LyX-1.6.5
On 03/24/2010 06:55 PM, Jack Desert wrote: I found myself wanting to open the same document sometimes in LyX 2.0 and sometimes in LyX 1.6.5. Oh sure, a LyX 1.6.5 document opens fine in LyX 2.0, but I ran into an error when trying open a LyX 2.0 document in LyX 1.6.5. So I did a little experimentation. I copied the LyX 2.0 lyx/lib/lyx2lyx folder into the LyX 1.6.5 lyx/lib/ directory. Then recompiled LyX 1.6.5. Voilá. Now I can open the same file with either version of LyX. Am I violating any taboo here? Does this void the LyX warranty? This is normal. The lyx2lyx script shipped with 1.6.5 converts PRIOR formats to the 1.6 format and vice versa. The version of lyx2lyx presently in trunk will convert *any* (existing) format to any other (existing) format. Since it's a self-contained python script, you can indeed do precisely what you've done. rh
Re: Opening LyX-2.0 Files in LyX-1.6.5
> > Does this void the LyX warranty? > > > > Which warranty ? The "free software double-your-money-back if it doesn't solve all your problems and bring world peace" warranty. That's the one I was referring to ;) -- ~~~ Jack Desert --Writer, Entrepeneur Author and Spokesman: www.LetsEATalready.com Software Developer: http://GrooveTask.org Email: jwo...@gmail.com ~~~
Re: Opening LyX-2.0 Files in LyX-1.6.5
Jack Desert schreef: Am I violating any taboo here? No, as long as you know what you're doing. At least you're now testing the lyx2lyx script. Does this void the LyX warranty? Which warranty ? Vincent
Re: Opening LyX-2.0 Files in LyX-1.6.5
Jack Desert schrieb: I found myself wanting to open the same document sometimes in LyX 2.0 and sometimes in LyX 1.6.5. Oh sure, a LyX 1.6.5 document opens fine in LyX 2.0, but I ran into an error when trying open a LyX 2.0 document in LyX 1.6.5. Of course, because LyX 2.0 is not released, so you cannot expect that the stable LyX 1.6.5 will understand files created with a version that is in alpha-state (not feature complete and with lots of crashes). In general, don't use development previews of LyX 2.0 for any real-life document, only for testing! Once LyX 2.0 is finally released, the last LyX 1.6.x version will support files created with LyX 2.0. regards Uwe
Opening LyX-2.0 Files in LyX-1.6.5
I found myself wanting to open the same document sometimes in LyX 2.0 and sometimes in LyX 1.6.5. Oh sure, a LyX 1.6.5 document opens fine in LyX 2.0, but I ran into an error when trying open a LyX 2.0 document in LyX 1.6.5. So I did a little experimentation. I copied the LyX 2.0 lyx/lib/lyx2lyx folder into the LyX 1.6.5 lyx/lib/ directory. Then recompiled LyX 1.6.5. Voilá. Now I can open the same file with either version of LyX. Am I violating any taboo here? Does this void the LyX warranty? -Jack -- ~~~ Jack Desert --Writer, Entrepeneur Author and Spokesman: www.LetsEATalready.com Software Developer: http://GrooveTask.org Email: jwo...@gmail.com ~~
Re: Changes to LyX-Code with beamer
On 24/03/2010 5:19 PM, Kevin Middleton wrote:
I'm trying to alter the appearance of LyX-Code in a beamer presentation by
following a couple of previous posts to:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users-uqbj+gopo4+hph1hqnu...@public.gmane.org/msg44992.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users-uqbj+gopo4+hph1hqnu...@public.gmane.org/msg30149.html
I copied lyxmacros.inc from Resources/layouts in LyX.app bundle (I'm using OS X
and LyX 1.6.5) into ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/layouts. I changed
owner and group to my user name and user group.
As a test, I tried changing \normalfont to \rmfamily and \smaller. (I don't
want this, but it seemed like a good way to see if it was working.)
[cut]
Preamble
\newenvironment{lyxcode}
{\par\begin{list}{}{
\setlength{\leftmargin}{\0in}
\setlength{\listparindent}{0pt}% needed for AMS
classes
\raggedright
\setlength{\itemsep}{0pt}
\setlength{\parsep}{0pt}
\normalfont\rmfamily\smaller}%
\item[]}
{\end{list}}
EndPreamble
[cut]
I reconfigured LyX, quit, and restarted. When compiled my beamer presentation,
the font remains unchanged in the PDF output (still typewriter).
I also tried an article class document, and the LyX-Code output correctly set
in Roman, so I think that my hack of lyxmacros.inc is working.
Does anyone know how I can get beamer to recognize these changes? Is there an
appropriate \setbeamerfont option?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin
You are close, but...
Look at the beamer.layout file. This is the file you want to edit. Put
your own version in your user directory (I presume ~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-1.6/layouts is correct but I am alien to Apple's OS).
Reason: beamer.layout redefines the LyX-Code environment.
--
Julien
Changes to LyX-Code with beamer
I'm trying to alter the appearance of LyX-Code in a beamer presentation by
following a couple of previous posts to:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg44992.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg30149.html
I copied lyxmacros.inc from Resources/layouts in LyX.app bundle (I'm using OS X
and LyX 1.6.5) into ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-1.6/layouts. I changed
owner and group to my user name and user group.
As a test, I tried changing \normalfont to \rmfamily and \smaller. (I don't
want this, but it seemed like a good way to see if it was working.)
[cut]
Preamble
\newenvironment{lyxcode}
{\par\begin{list}{}{
\setlength{\leftmargin}{\0in}
\setlength{\listparindent}{0pt}% needed for AMS
classes
\raggedright
\setlength{\itemsep}{0pt}
\setlength{\parsep}{0pt}
\normalfont\rmfamily\smaller}%
\item[]}
{\end{list}}
EndPreamble
[cut]
I reconfigured LyX, quit, and restarted. When compiled my beamer presentation,
the font remains unchanged in the PDF output (still typewriter).
I also tried an article class document, and the LyX-Code output correctly set
in Roman, so I think that my hack of lyxmacros.inc is working.
Does anyone know how I can get beamer to recognize these changes? Is there an
appropriate \setbeamerfont option?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin
Re: Layout file not usable
On 03/24/2010 12:17 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: On 22.03.10, Tim Wescott wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: You will need to install more of texlive than just the basics (which are auto-installed as a LyX dependency). I think I have a handle on this, but it sure changes the meaning of "create from template" away from "oh look at all these handy, helpful templates!" Something more like "Oh look at this ready-made minefield!" You might file an enhancement/bug report to ask for disabling not-supported templates (or a warning) similar to what is done if you select a non-supported document class under Document>Settings. I don't think this is very easy to do. Templates are just files, and what shows them is just a file browser. We can't ask the file browser not to show files that don't have associated LaTeX classes. If you have enough disk-space and a fast internet connection, you can also consider installing the full texlive suite (I don't remember the name of the meta package just now). I generally don't start filing enhancement/bug reports on software until I've had at least a little bit of mileage with it. As an absolute newbie it's an even bet between whether my problems stem from a real issue with the software or from my own ignorance. I think this may be an exception, though -- it certainly would be helpful for everyone, and far less confusing for newbies, to do this. And you _do_ want newbies to have a positive experience, lest they run screaming back to their nice, comfortable WSIWYG editor, and fail to lend their support to your community. What do you mean here by "do this"? Do you mean, "install the full texlive suite"? If so, then, first, LyX has no control over this. It's a packaging question and, on Linux, that means that each distribution gets to decide for itself what LyX's dependencies are. Similarly, the Windows and Mac packagers decide about this on their platforms. Second, it's arguable that LaTeX shouldn't be a dependency of LyX at all. Helge Hafting, who often posts here, frequently points out that LyX can be used as an editor without LaTeX. You might want to install it that way, for example, on a netbook that had minimal disk space so you could work on LyX files on your netbook. You wouldn't be able to view them as pdf or whatever, but you don't always need to do that. Third, even if we do want LaTeX to be a dependency, you really don't want to install absolutely every package that texlive makes available. That is a huge number of packages. And, finally, I don't know what texlive includes these days, but until not very long ago, some of the templates LyX ships were for use with document classes that weren't available at all through texlive. You have to go get them yourself if you want to use them. That's in the nature of an extensible system like LaTeX. rh
Re: Layout file not usable
Guenter Milde wrote: On 22.03.10, Tim Wescott wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: On 2010-03-22, Tim Wescott wrote: You will need to install more of texlive than just the basics (which are auto-installed as a LyX dependency). ... I think I have a handle on this, but it sure changes the meaning of "create from template" away from "oh look at all these handy, helpful templates!" Something more like "Oh look at this ready-made minefield!" You might file an enhancement/bug report to ask for disabling not-supported templates (or a warning) similar to what is done if you select a non-supported document class under Document>Settings. If you have enough disk-space and a fast internet connection, you can also consider installing the full texlive suite (I don't remember the name of the meta package just now). Günter I generally don't start filing enhancement/bug reports on software until I've had at least a little bit of mileage with it. As an absolute newbie it's an even bet between whether my problems stem from a real issue with the software or from my own ignorance. I think this may be an exception, though -- it certainly would be helpful for everyone, and far less confusing for newbies, to do this. And you _do_ want newbies to have a positive experience, lest they run screaming back to their nice, comfortable WSIWYG editor, and fail to lend their support to your community. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services Voice: 503-631-7815 Cell: 503-349-8432 http://www.wescottdesign.com
Re: Layout file not usable
Guenter Milde wrote: On 2010-03-22, Tim Wescott wrote: I'm working hard at being a brand-new user, but I'm still a user-wannabe, because things ain't working! I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, brand shiny new installation of Lyx. I try to create a document from a template (any template, but I'll use latex8 as an example) Really *any*?? Just to sort out principal failure: Could you test with a new standard document (Ctrl-N), type a simple sentence and view the PDF? and I get the following: The layout file requested by this document, latex8.layout, is not usable. This is probably because a LaTeX class or style file required by it is not available. See the Customization documentation for more information. LyX will not be able to produce output. This indicates that a latex document-class is missing. I tried reconfigure -- no luck. I tried running texhash -- no luck. I verified that /usr/share/lyx/layouts is there, and that it has latex8.layout (and all the others that didn't work) in it. You will need to install more of texlive than just the basics (which are auto-installed as a LyX dependency). In your example, you should look for latex8.cls or latex8.sty. If it is not on your system, try e.g. `apt-file find latex8.cls`` to see which package you need to install. (Actually, I did not find a package that ships latex8 for Debian, so this might even be a "download from CTAN and install 'by hand'" documentclass, however, you might e.g. find the seminar class in texlive-latex-recommended.) Günter Got it figured out -- thanks. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services Voice: 503-631-7815 Cell: 503-349-8432 http://www.wescottdesign.com
Re: references to labels on starred sections
Of course, this is what I originally suggested.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
wrote:
> Am Wednesday 24 March 2010 11:00:11 schrieb Julio Rojas:
>> Cross references are made to the number the section have. Starred
>> environments are not numbered, thus a cross reference is not possible.
>> This is what I meant with my answer. You cannot refer to "In section
>> foo", because "foo" doesn't have a value.
>> -
>> Julio Rojas
>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
> But you could of course say
> In the section on page foo we discuss the matter further.
> Wolfgang
>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, E. Kaplan wrote:
>> > I thought my post stated exactly what the problem was:
>> > I attach a label (say:foo) to something (say, a starred section*). That
>> > label should now be available for cross-reference, so I could say
>> > elsewhere: In section foo we discuss the matter further. Somehow this
>> > does not work, although the manual suggests that it should.
>> >
>> > (I am using Lyx 1.6.4 [TexLive] on Kubuntu 9.10 64 bit).
>> >
>> > EK
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3/24/2010 3:46 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:
>> >
>> > This seems kind of weird: how can you refer to something that is not
>> > numbered? I think you should refer to the page with
>> > "\pageref{marker}".
>> > -
>> > Julio Rojas
>> > jcredbe...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Ehud Kaplan
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > If I want to refer to a label attached to a starred section (or
>> > subsection, etc.), how do I do it?
>> > The pdf output comes out blank.
>> > Thanks,
>> > EK
>
>
>
> --
> -
> Wolfgang Engelmann
> Schlossgartenstrasse 22
> D-72070 Tübingen
> Tel 07071 68325
>
Re: references to labels on starred sections
Am Wednesday 24 March 2010 11:00:11 schrieb Julio Rojas:
> Cross references are made to the number the section have. Starred
> environments are not numbered, thus a cross reference is not possible.
> This is what I meant with my answer. You cannot refer to "In section
> foo", because "foo" doesn't have a value.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
But you could of course say
In the section on page foo we discuss the matter further.
Wolfgang
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, E. Kaplan wrote:
> > I thought my post stated exactly what the problem was:
> > I attach a label (say:foo) to something (say, a starred section*). That
> > label should now be available for cross-reference, so I could say
> > elsewhere: In section foo we discuss the matter further. Somehow this
> > does not work, although the manual suggests that it should.
> >
> > (I am using Lyx 1.6.4 [TexLive] on Kubuntu 9.10 64 bit).
> >
> > EK
> >
> >
> > On 3/24/2010 3:46 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:
> >
> > This seems kind of weird: how can you refer to something that is not
> > numbered? I think you should refer to the page with
> > "\pageref{marker}".
> > -
> > Julio Rojas
> > jcredbe...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Ehud Kaplan
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > If I want to refer to a label attached to a starred section (or
> > subsection, etc.), how do I do it?
> > The pdf output comes out blank.
> > Thanks,
> > EK
--
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325
Re: references to labels on starred sections
Cross references are made to the number the section have. Starred
environments are not numbered, thus a cross reference is not possible.
This is what I meant with my answer. You cannot refer to "In section
foo", because "foo" doesn't have a value.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, E. Kaplan wrote:
> I thought my post stated exactly what the problem was:
> I attach a label (say:foo) to something (say, a starred section*). That
> label should now be available for cross-reference, so I could say elsewhere:
> In section foo we discuss the matter further. Somehow this does not work,
> although the manual suggests that it should.
>
> (I am using Lyx 1.6.4 [TexLive] on Kubuntu 9.10 64 bit).
>
> EK
>
>
> On 3/24/2010 3:46 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:
>
> This seems kind of weird: how can you refer to something that is not
> numbered? I think you should refer to the page with
> "\pageref{marker}".
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote:
>
>
> If I want to refer to a label attached to a starred section (or subsection,
> etc.), how do I do it?
> The pdf output comes out blank.
> Thanks,
> EK
>
>
>
Re: references to labels on starred sections
I thought my post stated exactly what the problem was:
I attach a label (say:foo) to something (say, a starred section*). That
label should now be available for cross-reference, so I could say
elsewhere: In section foo we discuss the matter further. Somehow this
does not work, although the manual suggests that it should.
(I am using Lyx 1.6.4 [TexLive] on Kubuntu 9.10 64 bit).
EK
On 3/24/2010 3:46 AM, Julio Rojas wrote:
This seems kind of weird: how can you refer to something that is not
numbered? I think you should refer to the page with
"\pageref{marker}".
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote:
If I want to refer to a label attached to a starred section (or subsection,
etc.), how do I do it?
The pdf output comes out blank.
Thanks,
EK
Re: references to labels on starred sections
This seems kind of weird: how can you refer to something that is not
numbered? I think you should refer to the page with
"\pageref{marker}".
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Ehud Kaplan wrote:
> If I want to refer to a label attached to a starred section (or subsection,
> etc.), how do I do it?
> The pdf output comes out blank.
> Thanks,
> EK
>
>
