Re: more on collaboration
Hi, I think Greg's post is key here. Even if the two users are never editing at the same time, having always the latest version with all merges applied is reassuring. @Rob: Yet, I've never actually met anyone who writes with others in real time. I think this is because the tech didn't even exist a year ago. Any tech takes a while to get adopted. Most people don't even know it exists, and the ones who do don't know why they need it. Plus, leaving the tech aside, I can imagine there's a mental change when writing this way. I'm using abiword to collaborate on a paper. Will report how things went after a few days. Btw, the latex on gDocs thing is way too beta to be usable. It lost edits, crashed, etc. It's just a pity that abiword is so limited in other features (search, adding references, etc), but it looks really promising. Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Research scientist, Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kevin, I tried Gobby. it's as simple as notepad, so for serious programming/writing it'd feel a bit limited. But the deal breaker is no undo. Yes, you hear that right. I think Gobby is actually feature-wise worse than in-browser alternatives. Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Research scientist, Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer kun...@student.uib.no wrote: 2010/9/24 Gregory Jefferis jeffe...@gmail.com: Non-interactive collaborative editing means that there can always be one live version of a document to which anyone can apply changes that are versioned, identified and much more likely. Essentially it solves the conflicting merge problem by automatically merging all the time so that you are always looking at the latest version (and can be alerted to recent changes). You can try and do this with traditional version control arrangements but you will always run into a conflict if the system isn't designed for the possibility of interactive collaborative editing. And this is the reason why most users love Google Docs and will never use git (even though as we all know, merging with git is Fun and Easy). I think the ideal situation would look like Gobby[1] running inside LyX (not necessarily with chat features, but at least showing where the other user is editing), but I can understand how that would be a lot of work to implement. Sponsorship project? ;-) -Kevin [1] http://gobby.0x539.de
Re: lyx: Font derail (with semi-related ranting)
(an old subject) On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: But qpx seems a rather old package, compared to mathpazo. Isn't it a little dated? At least on my document qpxmath (hence, pxfonts) catches more math symbols than mathpazo, which takes several replacements from CM. Regards Liviu
Reconfigure
Why not arrange it so that when Lyx is invoked it checks to see whether Latex had been updated or modified since the last time Lyx was run? That way we will not have to remember to reconfigure Lyx after each time we update or install new Latex packages. -- Ehud Kaplan
Re: more on collaboration
Hello, A decent latex editor built on top of google docs. Decent and Google apps are mutually exclusive. Google apps is just yet another proof how ridiculously unusable _all_ web apps are for getting actual work done efficiently. And all that with ridiculously high development effort and equally ridiculous run-time ressource requirements. Thoughts? Online collaboration is a totally useless gadget exclusively favored by freaks who don't do actual work with the application. Offline collaboration using SVN is an absolute must where actual work is done with _any_ application. This is the opinion of someone who has been intensively doing information work to earn his life for 20 years now. Sincerely, Wolfgang
Re: Reconfigure
On 09/25/2010 08:09 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: Why not arrange it so that when Lyx is invoked it checks to see whether Latex had been updated or modified since the last time Lyx was run? That way we will not have to remember to reconfigure Lyx after each time we update or install new Latex packages. How would we have LyX determine this? I don't see any cross-platform way to do that, or even a reliable way to do it on Linux. You could try to calculate checksums on the ls-R files, but where are those? If there were a way to do it, then that'd be great. Richard
Re: more on collaboration
2010/9/25 Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net: Hello, A decent latex editor built on top of google docs. Decent and Google apps are mutually exclusive. Google apps is just yet another proof how ridiculously unusable _all_ web apps are for getting actual work done efficiently. And all that with ridiculously high development effort and equally ridiculous run-time ressource requirements. Thoughts? Online collaboration is a totally useless gadget exclusively favored by freaks who don't do actual work with the application. Kent Beck once told of how a certain type of web form had been shown by A/B testing[1] to get a lot more registered users, to which a developer said Oh those web forms suck, I'd never make those. Beck replies: What business are you in? I'd like to compete with you... -- what users actually do and what developers imagine they would do is often quite different ;-) My girlfriend is finishing up a six-year clinical psychology program, and she and most of her fellow students are using Google Docs on their final theses (not for the print version, but when collaborating on individual chapters). I have carefully tried to argue for version control and real editors over Google Docs, but why should they bother with solving merge conflicts when they could be getting some actual writing done... Of course, if the intended audience of LyX is people who already are familiar with version control, there is probably no reason to look at what non-programmers do. best regards, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_Testing
instant preview background
For math equations with instant preview turned on, the equation graphic in LyX 1.6.7 is rendered with some fixed background color (salmon, I think, on Windows) even if it's in an inset (e.g., LyX Note) with a different background color (yellow). I don't know the details of the preview mechanism, but in web design one would solve this by using a PNG or a GIF with alpha transparency for the background. PNG is preferable for rendering text.
Re: spellchecker
Am 24.09.2010 um 18:47 schrieb goncalo.b.santos: Hi! I'm using Lyx on a mac (OSX) but am not being able to get the spellchecker to work. I've downloaded the latest version of cocoaspell, installed it, went to system preferences/spelling/dictionaries and put all the dictionaries in the list on. In Lyx I did preferences/language settings/spellchecker/alternative language and added /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/english.alias I then did Lyx/Reconfigure and restarted. After doing all this, when I do tools/spellchecker the following message appears: The spellchecker could not be started Error: The file /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/english.alias can not be opened for reading. Did I do something wrong during the installation process or still need to do something else? Ok, I tried to use cocoAspell with LyX-1.6.7. It works when I set the spellchecker engine to aspell - not aspell(library). Your error message is raised when one appends a space after the item in alternative language. Stephan
table alignment
Hi: I'm trying to format my table to align on decimal places. I've figured out how to align the table on the decimal places and use multi-column to keep the non-numeric cells normal. However, my last column is wider, or aligned farther to the right than all the other columns. Does anyone know how to fix this? thanks, Mike
Re: table alignment
Am 25.09.2010 19:26, schrieb Mike Martell: I'm trying to format my table to align on decimal places. I've figured out how to align the table on the decimal places and use multi-column to keep the non-numeric cells normal. However, my last column is wider, or aligned farther to the right than all the other columns. Does anyone know how to fix this? This would only be possible by looking at your table in the LyX file. But doesn't sec. 2.12.2 Special Cell Alignment of the EmbeddedObjects manual (that you find in LyX's Help menu) doesn't help you? If not, can your send your table? Btw. the upcoming LyX 2.0 will directly support table alignment at decimals. regards Uwe
Re: Error in compiling document: argument of \PU\
Am 23.09.2010 19:56, schrieb vamsi krishna: Then I tried to include the small modifications which i did in my previous master file like: 1. enable the bookmark by (Documentssettingspdf properties) 'use hyperref support' and then realized that the bunch of error like package caption error: caption outside float and buch of error are happening. This should work and also works for me with your example files. Could I not include the bookmark option ? This must work without problems. What is your LateX system, what your OS? If you are on Windows, please update it via the Miktex update program that is linked in Windows Start menu. Finally reconfigure LyX and try it again. If the problem persists, delete one included file until you found the file causing the problem. I would also like to have the name of the chapters to be displayed on the top of each page, it would be great if anyone of you could help me with this. You get this, by setting the Headings style to headings or fancy in the document settings-Page Layout. With fancy you can also customize the header/footer lines. The LyX UserGuide describes this in sec. 3.1.3 Document Layout. regards Uwe
Re: more on collaboration
Hi, I think Greg's post is key here. Even if the two users are never editing at the same time, having always the latest version with all merges applied is reassuring. @Rob: Yet, I've never actually met anyone who writes with others in real time. I think this is because the tech didn't even exist a year ago. Any tech takes a while to get adopted. Most people don't even know it exists, and the ones who do don't know why they need it. Plus, leaving the tech aside, I can imagine there's a mental change when writing this way. I'm using abiword to collaborate on a paper. Will report how things went after a few days. Btw, the latex on gDocs thing is way too beta to be usable. It lost edits, crashed, etc. It's just a pity that abiword is so limited in other features (search, adding references, etc), but it looks really promising. Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Research scientist, Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kevin, I tried Gobby. it's as simple as notepad, so for serious programming/writing it'd feel a bit limited. But the deal breaker is no undo. Yes, you hear that right. I think Gobby is actually feature-wise worse than in-browser alternatives. Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Research scientist, Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer kun...@student.uib.no wrote: 2010/9/24 Gregory Jefferis jeffe...@gmail.com: Non-interactive collaborative editing means that there can always be one live version of a document to which anyone can apply changes that are versioned, identified and much more likely. Essentially it solves the conflicting merge problem by automatically merging all the time so that you are always looking at the latest version (and can be alerted to recent changes). You can try and do this with traditional version control arrangements but you will always run into a conflict if the system isn't designed for the possibility of interactive collaborative editing. And this is the reason why most users love Google Docs and will never use git (even though as we all know, merging with git is Fun and Easy). I think the ideal situation would look like Gobby[1] running inside LyX (not necessarily with chat features, but at least showing where the other user is editing), but I can understand how that would be a lot of work to implement. Sponsorship project? ;-) -Kevin [1] http://gobby.0x539.de
Re: lyx: Font derail (with semi-related ranting)
(an old subject) On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: But qpx seems a rather old package, compared to mathpazo. Isn't it a little dated? At least on my document qpxmath (hence, pxfonts) catches more math symbols than mathpazo, which takes several replacements from CM. Regards Liviu
Reconfigure
Why not arrange it so that when Lyx is invoked it checks to see whether Latex had been updated or modified since the last time Lyx was run? That way we will not have to remember to reconfigure Lyx after each time we update or install new Latex packages. -- Ehud Kaplan
Re: more on collaboration
Hello, A decent latex editor built on top of google docs. Decent and Google apps are mutually exclusive. Google apps is just yet another proof how ridiculously unusable _all_ web apps are for getting actual work done efficiently. And all that with ridiculously high development effort and equally ridiculous run-time ressource requirements. Thoughts? Online collaboration is a totally useless gadget exclusively favored by freaks who don't do actual work with the application. Offline collaboration using SVN is an absolute must where actual work is done with _any_ application. This is the opinion of someone who has been intensively doing information work to earn his life for 20 years now. Sincerely, Wolfgang
Re: Reconfigure
On 09/25/2010 08:09 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: Why not arrange it so that when Lyx is invoked it checks to see whether Latex had been updated or modified since the last time Lyx was run? That way we will not have to remember to reconfigure Lyx after each time we update or install new Latex packages. How would we have LyX determine this? I don't see any cross-platform way to do that, or even a reliable way to do it on Linux. You could try to calculate checksums on the ls-R files, but where are those? If there were a way to do it, then that'd be great. Richard
Re: more on collaboration
2010/9/25 Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net: Hello, A decent latex editor built on top of google docs. Decent and Google apps are mutually exclusive. Google apps is just yet another proof how ridiculously unusable _all_ web apps are for getting actual work done efficiently. And all that with ridiculously high development effort and equally ridiculous run-time ressource requirements. Thoughts? Online collaboration is a totally useless gadget exclusively favored by freaks who don't do actual work with the application. Kent Beck once told of how a certain type of web form had been shown by A/B testing[1] to get a lot more registered users, to which a developer said Oh those web forms suck, I'd never make those. Beck replies: What business are you in? I'd like to compete with you... -- what users actually do and what developers imagine they would do is often quite different ;-) My girlfriend is finishing up a six-year clinical psychology program, and she and most of her fellow students are using Google Docs on their final theses (not for the print version, but when collaborating on individual chapters). I have carefully tried to argue for version control and real editors over Google Docs, but why should they bother with solving merge conflicts when they could be getting some actual writing done... Of course, if the intended audience of LyX is people who already are familiar with version control, there is probably no reason to look at what non-programmers do. best regards, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_Testing
instant preview background
For math equations with instant preview turned on, the equation graphic in LyX 1.6.7 is rendered with some fixed background color (salmon, I think, on Windows) even if it's in an inset (e.g., LyX Note) with a different background color (yellow). I don't know the details of the preview mechanism, but in web design one would solve this by using a PNG or a GIF with alpha transparency for the background. PNG is preferable for rendering text.
Re: spellchecker
Am 24.09.2010 um 18:47 schrieb goncalo.b.santos: Hi! I'm using Lyx on a mac (OSX) but am not being able to get the spellchecker to work. I've downloaded the latest version of cocoaspell, installed it, went to system preferences/spelling/dictionaries and put all the dictionaries in the list on. In Lyx I did preferences/language settings/spellchecker/alternative language and added /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/english.alias I then did Lyx/Reconfigure and restarted. After doing all this, when I do tools/spellchecker the following message appears: The spellchecker could not be started Error: The file /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/english.alias can not be opened for reading. Did I do something wrong during the installation process or still need to do something else? Ok, I tried to use cocoAspell with LyX-1.6.7. It works when I set the spellchecker engine to aspell - not aspell(library). Your error message is raised when one appends a space after the item in alternative language. Stephan
table alignment
Hi: I'm trying to format my table to align on decimal places. I've figured out how to align the table on the decimal places and use multi-column to keep the non-numeric cells normal. However, my last column is wider, or aligned farther to the right than all the other columns. Does anyone know how to fix this? thanks, Mike
Re: table alignment
Am 25.09.2010 19:26, schrieb Mike Martell: I'm trying to format my table to align on decimal places. I've figured out how to align the table on the decimal places and use multi-column to keep the non-numeric cells normal. However, my last column is wider, or aligned farther to the right than all the other columns. Does anyone know how to fix this? This would only be possible by looking at your table in the LyX file. But doesn't sec. 2.12.2 Special Cell Alignment of the EmbeddedObjects manual (that you find in LyX's Help menu) doesn't help you? If not, can your send your table? Btw. the upcoming LyX 2.0 will directly support table alignment at decimals. regards Uwe
Re: Error in compiling document: argument of \PU\
Am 23.09.2010 19:56, schrieb vamsi krishna: Then I tried to include the small modifications which i did in my previous master file like: 1. enable the bookmark by (Documentssettingspdf properties) 'use hyperref support' and then realized that the bunch of error like package caption error: caption outside float and buch of error are happening. This should work and also works for me with your example files. Could I not include the bookmark option ? This must work without problems. What is your LateX system, what your OS? If you are on Windows, please update it via the Miktex update program that is linked in Windows Start menu. Finally reconfigure LyX and try it again. If the problem persists, delete one included file until you found the file causing the problem. I would also like to have the name of the chapters to be displayed on the top of each page, it would be great if anyone of you could help me with this. You get this, by setting the Headings style to headings or fancy in the document settings-Page Layout. With fancy you can also customize the header/footer lines. The LyX UserGuide describes this in sec. 3.1.3 Document Layout. regards Uwe
Re: more on collaboration
Hi, I think Greg's post is key here. Even if the two users are never editing at the same time, having always the latest version with all merges applied is reassuring. @Rob: "Yet, I've never actually met anyone who writes with others in real time." I think this is because the tech didn't even exist a year ago. Any tech takes a while to get adopted. Most people don't even know it exists, and the ones who do don't know why they need it. Plus, leaving the tech aside, I can imagine there's a mental change when writing this way. I'm using abiword to collaborate on a paper. Will report how things went after a few days. Btw, the latex on gDocs thing is way too beta to be usable. It lost edits, crashed, etc. It's just a pity that abiword is so limited in other features (search, adding references, etc), but it looks really promising. Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Research scientist, Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Jose Quesadawrote: > Hi Kevin, > I tried Gobby. it's as simple as notepad, so for serious > programming/writing it'd feel a bit limited. But the deal breaker is no > undo. Yes, you hear that right. I think Gobby is actually feature-wise worse > than in-browser alternatives. > > Best, > -Jose > > Jose Quesada, PhD. > Research scientist, > Max Planck Institute, > Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, > Berlin > http://www.josequesada.name/ > http://twitter.com/Quesada > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer < > kun...@student.uib.no> wrote: > >> 2010/9/24 Gregory Jefferis : >> > Non-interactive collaborative editing means that there can always be one >> > live version of a document to which anyone can apply changes that are >> > versioned, identified and much more likely. Essentially it solves the >> > conflicting merge problem by automatically merging all the time so that >> you >> > are always looking at the latest version (and can be alerted to recent >> > changes). You can try and do this with traditional version control >> > arrangements but you will always run into a conflict if the system isn't >> > designed for the possibility of interactive collaborative editing. >> >> And this is the reason why most users love Google Docs and will never >> use git (even though as we all know, merging with git is Fun and >> Easy). >> >> >> I think the ideal situation would look like Gobby[1] running inside >> LyX (not necessarily with chat features, but at least showing where >> the other user is editing), but I can understand how that would be a >> lot of work to implement. Sponsorship project? ;-) >> >> >> -Kevin >> >> >> [1] http://gobby.0x539.de >> > >
Re: lyx: Font derail (with semi-related ranting)
(an old subject) On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Julio Rojaswrote: > But qpx seems a rather old package, compared to mathpazo. Isn't it a > little dated? > At least on my document qpxmath (hence, pxfonts) catches more math symbols than mathpazo, which takes several replacements from CM. Regards Liviu
Reconfigure
Why not arrange it so that when Lyx is invoked it checks to see whether Latex had been updated or modified since the last time Lyx was run? That way we will not have to remember to "reconfigure" Lyx after each time we update or install new Latex packages. -- Ehud Kaplan
Re: more on collaboration
Hello, > A decent latex editor built on top of google docs. "Decent" and "Google apps" are mutually exclusive. Google apps is just yet another proof how ridiculously unusable _all_ "web apps" are for getting actual work done efficiently. And all that with ridiculously high development effort and equally ridiculous run-time ressource requirements. > Thoughts? "Online" collaboration is a totally useless gadget exclusively favored by freaks who don't do actual work with the application. "Offline" collaboration using SVN is an absolute must where actual work is done with _any_ application. This is the opinion of someone who has been intensively doing information work to earn his life for 20 years now. Sincerely, Wolfgang
Re: Reconfigure
On 09/25/2010 08:09 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote: Why not arrange it so that when Lyx is invoked it checks to see whether Latex had been updated or modified since the last time Lyx was run? That way we will not have to remember to "reconfigure" Lyx after each time we update or install new Latex packages. How would we have LyX determine this? I don't see any cross-platform way to do that, or even a reliable way to do it on Linux. You could try to calculate checksums on the ls-R files, but where are those? If there were a way to do it, then that'd be great. Richard
Re: more on collaboration
2010/9/25 Wolfgang Keller: > Hello, > >> A decent latex editor built on top of google docs. > > "Decent" and "Google apps" are mutually exclusive. > > Google apps is just yet another proof how ridiculously unusable _all_ "web > apps" are for getting actual work done efficiently. And all that with > ridiculously high development effort and equally ridiculous run-time > ressource requirements. > >> Thoughts? > > "Online" collaboration is a totally useless gadget exclusively favored by > freaks who don't do actual work with the application. Kent Beck once told of how a certain type of web form had been shown by A/B testing[1] to get a lot more registered users, to which a developer said "Oh those web forms suck, I'd never make those". Beck replies: "What business are you in? I'd like to compete with you..." -- what users actually do and what developers imagine they would do is often quite different ;-) My girlfriend is finishing up a six-year clinical psychology program, and she and most of her fellow students are using Google Docs on their final theses (not for the print version, but when collaborating on individual chapters). I have carefully tried to argue for version control and real editors over Google Docs, but why should they bother with solving merge conflicts when they could be getting some actual writing done... Of course, if the intended audience of LyX is people who already are familiar with version control, there is probably no reason to look at what non-programmers do. best regards, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_Testing
instant preview background
For math equations with instant preview turned on, the equation graphic in LyX 1.6.7 is rendered with some fixed background color (salmon, I think, on Windows) even if it's in an inset (e.g., LyX Note) with a different background color (yellow). I don't know the details of the preview mechanism, but in web design one would solve this by using a PNG or a GIF with alpha transparency for the background. PNG is preferable for rendering text.
Re: spellchecker
Am 24.09.2010 um 18:47 schrieb goncalo.b.santos: > > Hi! > > I'm using Lyx on a mac (OSX) but am not being able to get the spellchecker > to work. > > I've downloaded the latest version of cocoaspell, installed it, went to > system preferences/spelling/dictionaries and put all the dictionaries in the > list "on". > In Lyx I did preferences/language settings/spellchecker/alternative language > and added "/Library/Application > Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/english.alias" > I then did Lyx/Reconfigure and restarted. > > After doing all this, when I do tools/spellchecker the following message > appears: > > The spellchecker could not be started > Error: The file "/Library/Application > Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/english.alias " can not be opened for > reading. > > Did I do something wrong during the installation process or still need to do > something else? Ok, I tried to use cocoAspell with LyX-1.6.7. It works when I set the spellchecker engine to "aspell" - not "aspell(library)". Your error message is raised when one appends a space after the item in alternative language. Stephan
table alignment
Hi: I'm trying to format my table to align on decimal places. I've figured out how to align the table on the decimal places and use multi-column to keep the non-numeric cells normal. However, my last column is wider, or aligned farther to the right than all the other columns. Does anyone know how to fix this? thanks, Mike
Re: table alignment
Am 25.09.2010 19:26, schrieb Mike Martell: I'm trying to format my table to align on decimal places. I've figured out how to align the table on the decimal places and use multi-column to keep the non-numeric cells normal. However, my last column is wider, or aligned farther to the right than all the other columns. Does anyone know how to fix this? This would only be possible by looking at your table in the LyX file. But doesn't sec. 2.12.2 "Special Cell Alignment" of the EmbeddedObjects manual (that you find in LyX's Help menu) doesn't help you? If not, can your send your table? Btw. the upcoming LyX 2.0 will directly support table alignment at decimals. regards Uwe
Re: Error in compiling document: argument of \PU\
Am 23.09.2010 19:56, schrieb vamsi krishna: Then I tried to include the small modifications which i did in my previous master file like: 1. enable the bookmark by (Documents>settings>pdf properties) 'use hyperref support' and then realized that the bunch of error like "package caption error: caption outside float and buch of error are happening. This should work and also works for me with your example files. Could I not include the bookmark option ? This must work without problems. What is your LateX system, what your OS? If you are on Windows, please update it via the Miktex update program that is linked in Windows Start menu. Finally reconfigure LyX and try it again. If the problem persists, delete one included file until you found the file causing the problem. > I would also like to have the name of the chapters to be displayed on the top of each page, it would be great if anyone of you could help me with this. You get this, by setting the Headings style to "headings" or "fancy" in the document settings->Page Layout. With "fancy" you can also customize the header/footer lines. The LyX UserGuide describes this in sec. 3.1.3 "Document Layout". regards Uwe