Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Mehrdad Oveisi]

Hello,

I am using LyX with Natbib and Natbib style set to Author-year (under
Document - Settings - Bibliography - Citation Style).

If I use Insert - List / TOC - BibTex Bibliography, and choose
alpha as the Style, then I get results such as

[Tar56] Alfred Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


This is all good except that I need it to abbreviate the first names; e.g.:

[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


Apparently Natbib with abbrvnat should do this (?), but when I select
abbrvnat (instead of alpha above), I get an error: Undefined control
sequence.

Your help is appreciated,
Mehrdad

Re: Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Csikos Bela]

Mehrdad Oveisi move...@gmail.com írta:

Hello,

I am using LyX with Natbib and Natbib style set to Author-year (under
Document - Settings - Bibliography - Citation Style).

If I use Insert - List / TOC - BibTex Bibliography, and choose
alpha as the Style, then I get results such as

[Tar56] Alfred Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


This is all good except that I need it to abbreviate the first names; e.g.:

[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


Apparently Natbib with abbrvnat should do this (?), but when I select
abbrvnat (instead of alpha above), I get an error: Undefined control
sequence.

Mehrdad:

First you have to decide what style you want. It seems you are a little bit 
confused. It is normal.

1. The alpha style does not require natbib package. You can use it natively in 
Lyx.
Furthermore it is not an author-year citation style, it is a special case, but 
in latex/lyx it
is considered as numerical style. To use it natively, in lyx document settings 
set 
 Bibliography - Citation Style to Default (numerical) and choose alpha 
style in
Insert - List / TOC. It should work. You can also use natbib in lyx, but 
in that case make sure you select natbib style: numerical. If you select 
author-year natbib style you
will get ? mark instead of author name in the citations, which you don't want.

2. The abbrnat style you mentioned is not author-year style either. You have to 
set natbib style to numerical in that case too. You can use  the default 
numerical option in lyx and set the style to abbr. It gives similar results.

3. If you want author year citations you have to use a style that is made for 
author-year citations. You can look at various styles here:

http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/latex/showbst.html

http://web.reed.edu/cis/help/latex/bibtexstyles.html


4. If you don't find a style you need, you can create your own style using:
a) custom-bib package: you find at CTAN but it also might be installed with 
your lyx/latex system. At first it seems complicated but if you go through it a 
few times it becomes easier.
b) bibit has  custom style generator too. See:
http://bib-it.sourceforge.net/help/generateBibstyle.php

bcsikos

Re: Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Mehrdad Oveisi]

Thank you for your reply, Csikos. Let me simplify my question a bit. 
What I need is a combination of 

-- abbrv which abbreviates the authors' first names, and
-- alpha which creates keys like [Tar56] which are short and readable

as in the example in my previous email:
 
[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics

I am hoping something like that already exists.

Thanks,
Mehrdad

Lost labels

[Mark Mandelkern]

I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each cross-reference.

This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?

Mark Mandelkern

Re: Lost labels

[Richard Heck]

On 07/29/2013 05:03 PM, Mark Mandelkern wrote:


I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each 
cross-reference.


This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?


First, look at the LaTeX log, under Document LaTeX Log. This can be 
hard to wade through, but there is probably an error message in there 
somewhere.


Alternatively, bisect. Make a copy of the file to work on. Delete the 
first half of the body. If that still causes the problem, delete some 
more. If it's OK, restore what you deleted and delete something else. 
Keep going until you isolate the problem.


I will guess that one of your labels is somehow invalid, and that this 
is corrupting the generation of cross-references.


Richard

Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Mehrdad Oveisi]

Hello,

I am using LyX with Natbib and Natbib style set to Author-year (under
Document - Settings - Bibliography - Citation Style).

If I use Insert - List / TOC - BibTex Bibliography, and choose
alpha as the Style, then I get results such as

[Tar56] Alfred Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


This is all good except that I need it to abbreviate the first names; e.g.:

[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


Apparently Natbib with abbrvnat should do this (?), but when I select
abbrvnat (instead of alpha above), I get an error: Undefined control
sequence.

Your help is appreciated,
Mehrdad

Re: Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Csikos Bela]

Mehrdad Oveisi move...@gmail.com írta:

Hello,

I am using LyX with Natbib and Natbib style set to Author-year (under
Document - Settings - Bibliography - Citation Style).

If I use Insert - List / TOC - BibTex Bibliography, and choose
alpha as the Style, then I get results such as

[Tar56] Alfred Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


This is all good except that I need it to abbreviate the first names; e.g.:

[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


Apparently Natbib with abbrvnat should do this (?), but when I select
abbrvnat (instead of alpha above), I get an error: Undefined control
sequence.

Mehrdad:

First you have to decide what style you want. It seems you are a little bit 
confused. It is normal.

1. The alpha style does not require natbib package. You can use it natively in 
Lyx.
Furthermore it is not an author-year citation style, it is a special case, but 
in latex/lyx it
is considered as numerical style. To use it natively, in lyx document settings 
set 
 Bibliography - Citation Style to Default (numerical) and choose alpha 
style in
Insert - List / TOC. It should work. You can also use natbib in lyx, but 
in that case make sure you select natbib style: numerical. If you select 
author-year natbib style you
will get ? mark instead of author name in the citations, which you don't want.

2. The abbrnat style you mentioned is not author-year style either. You have to 
set natbib style to numerical in that case too. You can use  the default 
numerical option in lyx and set the style to abbr. It gives similar results.

3. If you want author year citations you have to use a style that is made for 
author-year citations. You can look at various styles here:

http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/latex/showbst.html

http://web.reed.edu/cis/help/latex/bibtexstyles.html


4. If you don't find a style you need, you can create your own style using:
a) custom-bib package: you find at CTAN but it also might be installed with 
your lyx/latex system. At first it seems complicated but if you go through it a 
few times it becomes easier.
b) bibit has  custom style generator too. See:
http://bib-it.sourceforge.net/help/generateBibstyle.php

bcsikos

Re: Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Mehrdad Oveisi]

Thank you for your reply, Csikos. Let me simplify my question a bit. 
What I need is a combination of 

-- abbrv which abbreviates the authors' first names, and
-- alpha which creates keys like [Tar56] which are short and readable

as in the example in my previous email:
 
[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics

I am hoping something like that already exists.

Thanks,
Mehrdad

Lost labels

[Mark Mandelkern]

I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each cross-reference.

This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?

Mark Mandelkern

Re: Lost labels

[Richard Heck]

On 07/29/2013 05:03 PM, Mark Mandelkern wrote:


I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each 
cross-reference.


This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?


First, look at the LaTeX log, under Document LaTeX Log. This can be 
hard to wade through, but there is probably an error message in there 
somewhere.


Alternatively, bisect. Make a copy of the file to work on. Delete the 
first half of the body. If that still causes the problem, delete some 
more. If it's OK, restore what you deleted and delete something else. 
Keep going until you isolate the problem.


I will guess that one of your labels is somehow invalid, and that this 
is corrupting the generation of cross-references.


Richard

Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Mehrdad Oveisi]

Hello,

I am using LyX with Natbib and Natbib style set to "Author-year" (under
"Document" -> "Settings" -> "Bibliography" -> "Citation Style").

If I use "Insert" -> "List / TOC" -> "BibTex Bibliography", and choose
"alpha" as the "Style", then I get results such as

[Tar56] Alfred Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


This is all good except that I need it to abbreviate the first names; e.g.:

[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics


Apparently Natbib with abbrvnat should do this (?), but when I select
"abbrvnat" (instead of "alpha" above), I get an error: "Undefined control
sequence."

Your help is appreciated,
Mehrdad

Re: Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Csikos Bela]

Mehrdad Oveisi  írta:

>Hello,
>
>I am using LyX with Natbib and Natbib style set to "Author-year" (under
>"Document" -> "Settings" -> "Bibliography" -> "Citation Style").
>
>If I use "Insert" -> "List / TOC" -> "BibTex Bibliography", and choose
>"alpha" as the "Style", then I get results such as
>
>[Tar56] Alfred Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics
>
>
>This is all good except that I need it to abbreviate the first names; e.g.:
>
>[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics
>
>
>Apparently Natbib with abbrvnat should do this (?), but when I select
>"abbrvnat" (instead of "alpha" above), I get an error: "Undefined control
>sequence."

Mehrdad:

First you have to decide what style you want. It seems you are a little bit 
confused. It is normal.

1. The alpha style does not require natbib package. You can use it natively in 
Lyx.
Furthermore it is not an author-year citation style, it is a special case, but 
in latex/lyx it
is considered as numerical style. To use it natively, in lyx document settings 
set 
 "Bibliography" -> "Citation Style" to "Default (numerical)" and choose alpha 
style in
"Insert" -> "List / TOC". It should work. You can also use natbib in lyx, but 
in that case make sure you select "natbib style: numerical". If you select 
author-year natbib style you
will get ? mark instead of author name in the citations, which you don't want.

2. The abbrnat style you mentioned is not author-year style either. You have to 
set natbib style to numerical in that case too. You can use  the default 
numerical option in lyx and set the style to "abbr". It gives similar results.

3. If you want author year citations you have to use a style that is made for 
author-year citations. You can look at various styles here:

http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/latex/showbst.html

http://web.reed.edu/cis/help/latex/bibtexstyles.html


4. If you don't find a style you need, you can create your own style using:
a) custom-bib package: you find at CTAN but it also might be installed with 
your lyx/latex system. At first it seems complicated but if you go through it a 
few times it becomes easier.
b) "bibit" has  custom style generator too. See:
http://bib-it.sourceforge.net/help/generateBibstyle.php

bcsikos

Re: Natbib with abbrvnat in LyX

[Mehrdad Oveisi]

Thank you for your reply, Csikos. Let me simplify my question a bit. 
What I need is a combination of 

-- "abbrv" which abbreviates the authors' first names, and
-- "alpha" which creates keys like [Tar56] which are short and readable

as in the example in my previous email:
 
[Tar56] A. Tarski. Logic, Semantics, Metamathematics

I am hoping something like that already exists.

Thanks,
Mehrdad

Lost labels

[Mark Mandelkern]

I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each cross-reference.

This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?

Mark Mandelkern

Re: Lost labels

[Richard Heck]

On 07/29/2013 05:03 PM, Mark Mandelkern wrote:


I have been using LyX with no problems for years, but now suddenly . . .

A paper is already 40 pages long, and has about 90 labels, with
many cross-references. Just today, when I look at a PDF output, the
cross-references are gone, only ?? shows in the PDF, for each 
cross-reference.


This is about internal cross-references, not bibliographic references.
All the labels and cross-references do show up okay in the paper and
in the left window.

Any suggestions?


First, look at the LaTeX log, under Document> LaTeX Log. This can be 
hard to wade through, but there is probably an error message in there 
somewhere.


Alternatively, bisect. Make a copy of the file to work on. Delete the 
first half of the body. If that still causes the problem, delete some 
more. If it's OK, restore what you deleted and delete something else. 
Keep going until you isolate the problem.


I will guess that one of your labels is somehow invalid, and that this 
is corrupting the generation of cross-references.


Richard