OT: hilarious use of WYSIWYG wrt Facebook

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all,
This is completely off-topic, but I found hilarious the use of WYSIWYG
in the context of Facebook vs real-life encounters:
They found that the most common emotion aroused by using Facebook is
envy. Endlessly comparing themselves with peers who have doctored
their photographs, amplified their achievements and plagiarised their
bons mots can leave Facebook’s users more than a little green-eyed.
Real-life encounters, by contrast, are more WYSIWYG (what you see is
what you get).

Here's the full The Economist article:
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21583593-using-social-network-seems-make-people-more-miserable-get-life


Regards,
Liviu


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Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag 18 August 2013, 12:26:50 schrieb Aliabbas Petiwala:
 While my lyx projects in version LyX 2.0.5.1
 http://www.lyx.org/News#item5 (jan2013
 release ) are compiling without error or warning , but in the new beta
 version I get following error, also in other versions after 2.0.5.1 I am
 getting some other errors, how to resolve this?:

Which errors in this long log do you refer to?

Jürgen

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Ken,

On 2013-08-18 01:28 , Ken Springer wrote: [...]
 NeoOffice exports LaTeX  Being able to exchange Word docs when
 I need to is a concern of mine.  I don't know how much I'll need
 it, but I don't want to have to jump through hoops to get it done.
 I'm not too sure about how well the RTF format retains Word
 formatting.

Look for Writer2LaTeX

Just to be clear, I do not export into OpenOffice, or Word for that
matter, ever.  Someone wants a document from me gets whatever I
have, or want to give, in PDF (or, rarely, in LyX :-)-O).

 I tried NO when I first got this Mac, but didn't like their policy
 of having to pay to join the forums to report problems.  That
 doesn't set well with me, they are the only place I've ever run
 into that practice.  I don't pay anyone else to report problems.

Neither do I. But I pay 10 USD per annum to get first digs at their
updates.  And I haven't had problems for many years.  But then, as a
bove, I only use it for the specific purpose of reading Word
documents from the net :-)-O

 Do you use images in your office paperwork?  Fairly easy to do?

On Laparoscopy work I often get photodocumentation which I include
in my Operation Report.  Made a template, so it's easy peasy.

 
 Which brings to mind, one thing I'm hoping to end up with is cross
 platform software, as I'm embarking on a project that I plan on
 doing in Windows 7 as I can't find the tools and OS customizations
 I'm looking for in OS X. :-(

ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP

el

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I like Koma-Script for most everything which is very easy to tweak.

But, the LaTeX requirement is a strength, rather than a weakness, in
my view, forcing a certain structure for most cases.

el

On 2013-08-17 23:38 , Charlie wrote: [...]
  Pluses, minuses?  Don't know what they mean?  I think it's a two
  way street for me.  I do what I want in LyX and bend it to my
  will, but it bends me to it's will to a certain extent as well.
  Because I don't use fancy fonts as much as I once did.
 
  I take a bit of time to create a template for just about
  everything and tweak it when required.
 
 The letter template is there for each organisation with
 appropriate letterhead, but tweak each one for a short letter or
 for people who I think have macular degeneration etc..
 
 Some articles need a wider text area, so tweak the geometry on the
 fly etc..
 
 HTH Charlie
[...]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Ken Springer]

On 8/18/13 3:15 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Ken,



ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP


OK, this one has me stumped! LOL


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Citation style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Friday, 16. August 2013, 19:38:09 schrieb Richard Heck:

Thanks for the responses. What I actually would like to have is an example 
template of the Springer publisher (sv) svmult (multiple authors), which 
hopefully contains also the required citing and referencing style. This is 
not provided. I guess, there are people on the list who used it before and 
I would appreciate a short example showing the required features.

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

 I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the 
 output I'm looking for.
 
 I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of
 using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre
 Office, Apple's Pages, etc.
 
 Pluses?  Minuses?

Since I've started using LyX, it has replaced all other document
processing applications for almost everything. And I've started using
LyX since LuaLaTeX resp. XeTeX support OTF fonts and Microtype.

Plus: Produces reading-friendly output. I had wondered for a *long*
time why no one would actually read my reports - until I figured out
that typography is not about esthetic taste, but reading ergonomics.

Minus: Since I have only some standard document types that I've set
up some time ago the way I need them and that I don't touch after I've
set them up, I forget how to adapt them when I need to change something.

The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is generation of
documents from databases.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/18/2013 04:24 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the
output I'm looking for.

I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of
using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre
Office, Apple's Pages, etc.

Pluses?  Minuses?


I've been surprised by the responses thusfar to this thread.  Of course, 
I am biased, both because I am a long-time LyX user -- probably one of 
the first aside from Matthias -- and because I am a mathematician, so 
equation-formatting is very important to me.


But I do use LyX for all of my writing; letter, class notes, and of 
course technical writing.  I literally cannot use Word or its clones for 
anything other than reading what someone else wrote.  I don't know how 
to make anything look right using Word.  I am amazed by the way people 
use those programs, worrying about fonts, margins, making headers 
larger/smaller/etc.  I just don't worry about that stuff.   That is the 
biggest plus.  You never have to worry about the pure formatting stuff, 
that is all taken care of.  You only have to worry about what you are 
writing.  Sounds good to me.


For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept (prefer) 
LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with 
their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.  For 
letters I have a file with all my settings, which I just re-use for each 
new letter.  For classroom slides I use beamer -- makes it trivial to do.


I could of course just use raw LaTeX, and sometimes I do.  I am doing 
that now with a paper, because a co-author wrote up the first draft, and 
so we are sticking with the LaTeX rather than translate into LyX.  But 
with LyX I can see what I am doing, with properly typeset equations, so 
I can think while I am writing.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Chris Menzel]

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
...
 For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept (prefer)
LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with their
own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly publish
rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted papers be
submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page paper I'd
written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was excruciating.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Ken Springer]

On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu
mailto:d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
 ...
  For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept
(prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style
tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
excruciating.


Just a question...  With the prevalence of the .doc/.docx Word file 
usage, have the folks that create LyX considered adding an import/export 
function for Word files?



--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/18/2013 09:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu
mailto:d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
...
 For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept
(prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style
tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
excruciating.


Just a question...  With the prevalence of the .doc/.docx Word file 
usage, have the folks that create LyX considered adding an 
import/export function for Word files?



The perennial question.  Part of the problem is that, in either 
direction, it is not a 1-1 map.  It might be possible to choose a way to 
import Word files, losing some of the needless formatting, but the other 
way would be a nightmare in terms of preserving any of the LyX/LaTeX 
formats, or equations.  And that is the key, being able to preserve 
something beyond the plain text.  That you can do, since both (well, LyX 
does) allow export to more-or-less plain text.


Another issue is that the Word file format is a moving target, even 
worse now with the .docx format that is a zip archive.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Les Denham]

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:02:31 -0400
Chris Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com wrote:

 Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
 publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
 papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
 paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
 excruciating.

Chris,

That kind of experience is what I've had too. But then I remember that
I've saved all that excruciating fiddling with the document through all
the revisions up to the final version. Transcribing a fairly technical
30 page paper . . . written in LyX into Word might be excruciating,
but so is writing it in Word in the first place.

I have used LyX as my standard writing tool for more than a decade,
using it for everything from shopping lists to 200-page books. I also
use it (with beamer) for presentations, which usually look much more
professional than PowerPoint presentations.

Perhaps the most useful feature of LyX (in my experience) is the ease
with which it handles crossreferences and floats. The position of a
float might not always be perfect using LyX, but trying to get figures
where you want them in Word is a far thornier problem.

My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is to
us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix
the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.

Les

OT: hilarious use of WYSIWYG wrt Facebook

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all,
This is completely off-topic, but I found hilarious the use of WYSIWYG
in the context of Facebook vs real-life encounters:
They found that the most common emotion aroused by using Facebook is
envy. Endlessly comparing themselves with peers who have doctored
their photographs, amplified their achievements and plagiarised their
bons mots can leave Facebook’s users more than a little green-eyed.
Real-life encounters, by contrast, are more WYSIWYG (what you see is
what you get).

Here's the full The Economist article:
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21583593-using-social-network-seems-make-people-more-miserable-get-life


Regards,
Liviu


-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag 18 August 2013, 12:26:50 schrieb Aliabbas Petiwala:
 While my lyx projects in version LyX 2.0.5.1
 http://www.lyx.org/News#item5 (jan2013
 release ) are compiling without error or warning , but in the new beta
 version I get following error, also in other versions after 2.0.5.1 I am
 getting some other errors, how to resolve this?:

Which errors in this long log do you refer to?

Jürgen

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Ken,

On 2013-08-18 01:28 , Ken Springer wrote: [...]
 NeoOffice exports LaTeX  Being able to exchange Word docs when
 I need to is a concern of mine.  I don't know how much I'll need
 it, but I don't want to have to jump through hoops to get it done.
 I'm not too sure about how well the RTF format retains Word
 formatting.

Look for Writer2LaTeX

Just to be clear, I do not export into OpenOffice, or Word for that
matter, ever.  Someone wants a document from me gets whatever I
have, or want to give, in PDF (or, rarely, in LyX :-)-O).

 I tried NO when I first got this Mac, but didn't like their policy
 of having to pay to join the forums to report problems.  That
 doesn't set well with me, they are the only place I've ever run
 into that practice.  I don't pay anyone else to report problems.

Neither do I. But I pay 10 USD per annum to get first digs at their
updates.  And I haven't had problems for many years.  But then, as a
bove, I only use it for the specific purpose of reading Word
documents from the net :-)-O

 Do you use images in your office paperwork?  Fairly easy to do?

On Laparoscopy work I often get photodocumentation which I include
in my Operation Report.  Made a template, so it's easy peasy.

 
 Which brings to mind, one thing I'm hoping to end up with is cross
 platform software, as I'm embarking on a project that I plan on
 doing in Windows 7 as I can't find the tools and OS customizations
 I'm looking for in OS X. :-(

ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP

el

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I like Koma-Script for most everything which is very easy to tweak.

But, the LaTeX requirement is a strength, rather than a weakness, in
my view, forcing a certain structure for most cases.

el

On 2013-08-17 23:38 , Charlie wrote: [...]
  Pluses, minuses?  Don't know what they mean?  I think it's a two
  way street for me.  I do what I want in LyX and bend it to my
  will, but it bends me to it's will to a certain extent as well.
  Because I don't use fancy fonts as much as I once did.
 
  I take a bit of time to create a template for just about
  everything and tweak it when required.
 
 The letter template is there for each organisation with
 appropriate letterhead, but tweak each one for a short letter or
 for people who I think have macular degeneration etc..
 
 Some articles need a wider text area, so tweak the geometry on the
 fly etc..
 
 HTH Charlie
[...]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Ken Springer]

On 8/18/13 3:15 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Ken,



ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP


OK, this one has me stumped! LOL


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Citation style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Friday, 16. August 2013, 19:38:09 schrieb Richard Heck:

Thanks for the responses. What I actually would like to have is an example 
template of the Springer publisher (sv) svmult (multiple authors), which 
hopefully contains also the required citing and referencing style. This is 
not provided. I guess, there are people on the list who used it before and 
I would appreciate a short example showing the required features.

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

 I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the 
 output I'm looking for.
 
 I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of
 using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre
 Office, Apple's Pages, etc.
 
 Pluses?  Minuses?

Since I've started using LyX, it has replaced all other document
processing applications for almost everything. And I've started using
LyX since LuaLaTeX resp. XeTeX support OTF fonts and Microtype.

Plus: Produces reading-friendly output. I had wondered for a *long*
time why no one would actually read my reports - until I figured out
that typography is not about esthetic taste, but reading ergonomics.

Minus: Since I have only some standard document types that I've set
up some time ago the way I need them and that I don't touch after I've
set them up, I forget how to adapt them when I need to change something.

The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is generation of
documents from databases.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/18/2013 04:24 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the
output I'm looking for.

I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of
using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre
Office, Apple's Pages, etc.

Pluses?  Minuses?


I've been surprised by the responses thusfar to this thread.  Of course, 
I am biased, both because I am a long-time LyX user -- probably one of 
the first aside from Matthias -- and because I am a mathematician, so 
equation-formatting is very important to me.


But I do use LyX for all of my writing; letter, class notes, and of 
course technical writing.  I literally cannot use Word or its clones for 
anything other than reading what someone else wrote.  I don't know how 
to make anything look right using Word.  I am amazed by the way people 
use those programs, worrying about fonts, margins, making headers 
larger/smaller/etc.  I just don't worry about that stuff.   That is the 
biggest plus.  You never have to worry about the pure formatting stuff, 
that is all taken care of.  You only have to worry about what you are 
writing.  Sounds good to me.


For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept (prefer) 
LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with 
their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.  For 
letters I have a file with all my settings, which I just re-use for each 
new letter.  For classroom slides I use beamer -- makes it trivial to do.


I could of course just use raw LaTeX, and sometimes I do.  I am doing 
that now with a paper, because a co-author wrote up the first draft, and 
so we are sticking with the LaTeX rather than translate into LyX.  But 
with LyX I can see what I am doing, with properly typeset equations, so 
I can think while I am writing.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Chris Menzel]

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
...
 For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept (prefer)
LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with their
own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly publish
rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted papers be
submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page paper I'd
written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was excruciating.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Ken Springer]

On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu
mailto:d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
 ...
  For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept
(prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style
tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
excruciating.


Just a question...  With the prevalence of the .doc/.docx Word file 
usage, have the folks that create LyX considered adding an import/export 
function for Word files?



--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/18/2013 09:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu
mailto:d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
...
 For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept
(prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style
tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
excruciating.


Just a question...  With the prevalence of the .doc/.docx Word file 
usage, have the folks that create LyX considered adding an 
import/export function for Word files?



The perennial question.  Part of the problem is that, in either 
direction, it is not a 1-1 map.  It might be possible to choose a way to 
import Word files, losing some of the needless formatting, but the other 
way would be a nightmare in terms of preserving any of the LyX/LaTeX 
formats, or equations.  And that is the key, being able to preserve 
something beyond the plain text.  That you can do, since both (well, LyX 
does) allow export to more-or-less plain text.


Another issue is that the Word file format is a moving target, even 
worse now with the .docx format that is a zip archive.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Les Denham]

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:02:31 -0400
Chris Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com wrote:

 Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
 publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
 papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
 paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
 excruciating.

Chris,

That kind of experience is what I've had too. But then I remember that
I've saved all that excruciating fiddling with the document through all
the revisions up to the final version. Transcribing a fairly technical
30 page paper . . . written in LyX into Word might be excruciating,
but so is writing it in Word in the first place.

I have used LyX as my standard writing tool for more than a decade,
using it for everything from shopping lists to 200-page books. I also
use it (with beamer) for presentations, which usually look much more
professional than PowerPoint presentations.

Perhaps the most useful feature of LyX (in my experience) is the ease
with which it handles crossreferences and floats. The position of a
float might not always be perfect using LyX, but trying to get figures
where you want them in Word is a far thornier problem.

My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is to
us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix
the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.

Les

OT: hilarious use of WYSIWYG wrt Facebook

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all,
This is completely off-topic, but I found hilarious the use of WYSIWYG
in the context of Facebook vs real-life encounters:
"They found that the most common emotion aroused by using Facebook is
envy. Endlessly comparing themselves with peers who have doctored
their photographs, amplified their achievements and plagiarised their
bons mots can leave Facebook’s users more than a little green-eyed.
Real-life encounters, by contrast, are more WYSIWYG (what you see is
what you get)."

Here's the full The Economist article:
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21583593-using-social-network-seems-make-people-more-miserable-get-life


Regards,
Liviu


-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: Error in new beta lyx

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag 18 August 2013, 12:26:50 schrieb Aliabbas Petiwala:
> While my lyx projects in version LyX 2.0.5.1
>  (jan2013
> release ) are compiling without error or warning , but in the new beta
> version I get following error, also in other versions after 2.0.5.1 I am
> getting some other errors, how to resolve this?:

Which errors in this long log do you refer to?

Jürgen

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Ken,

On 2013-08-18 01:28 , Ken Springer wrote: [...]
> NeoOffice exports LaTeX  Being able to exchange Word docs when
> I need to is a concern of mine.  I don't know how much I'll need
> it, but I don't want to have to jump through hoops to get it done.
> I'm not too sure about how well the RTF format retains Word
> formatting.

Look for Writer2LaTeX

Just to be clear, I do not export into OpenOffice, or Word for that
matter, ever.  Someone wants a document from me gets whatever I
have, or want to give, in PDF (or, rarely, in LyX :-)-O).

> I tried NO when I first got this Mac, but didn't like their policy
> of having to pay to join the forums to report problems.  That
> doesn't set well with me, they are the only place I've ever run
> into that practice.  I don't pay anyone else to report problems.

Neither do I. But I pay 10 USD per annum to get first digs at their
updates.  And I haven't had problems for many years.  But then, as a
bove, I only use it for the specific purpose of reading Word
documents from the net :-)-O

> Do you use images in your office paperwork?  Fairly easy to do?

On Laparoscopy work I often get photodocumentation which I include
in my Operation Report.  Made a template, so it's easy peasy.

> 
> Which brings to mind, one thing I'm hoping to end up with is cross
> platform software, as I'm embarking on a project that I plan on
> doing in Windows 7 as I can't find the tools and OS customizations
> I'm looking for in OS X. :-(

ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP

el

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I like Koma-Script for most everything which is very easy to tweak.

But, the LaTeX requirement is a strength, rather than a weakness, in
my view, "forcing" a certain structure for most cases.

el

On 2013-08-17 23:38 , Charlie wrote: [...]
>  Pluses, minuses?  Don't know what they mean?  I think it's a two
>  way street for me.  I do what I want in LyX and bend it to my
>  will, but it bends me to it's will to a certain extent as well.
>  Because I don't use fancy fonts as much as I once did.
> 
>  I take a bit of time to create a template for just about
>  everything and tweak it when required.
> 
> The letter template is there for each organisation with
> appropriate letterhead, but tweak each one for a short letter or
> for people who I think have macular degeneration etc..
> 
> Some articles need a wider text area, so tweak the geometry on the
> fly etc..
> 
> HTH Charlie
[...]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Ken Springer]

On 8/18/13 3:15 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Ken,



ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP


OK, this one has me stumped! LOL


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Citation style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Friday, 16. August 2013, 19:38:09 schrieb Richard Heck:

Thanks for the responses. What I actually would like to have is an example 
template of the Springer publisher (sv) svmult (multiple authors), which 
hopefully contains also the required citing and referencing style. This is 
not provided. I guess, there are people on the list who used it before and 
I would appreciate a short example showing the required features.

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Keller]

> I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the 
> output I'm looking for.
> 
> I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of
> using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre
> Office, Apple's Pages, etc.
> 
> Pluses?  Minuses?

Since I've started using LyX, it has replaced all other "document
processing" applications for almost everything. And I've started using
LyX since LuaLaTeX resp. XeTeX support OTF fonts and Microtype.

Plus: Produces reading-friendly output. I had wondered for a *long*
time why no one would actually read my reports - until I figured out
that "typography" is not about esthetic "taste", but reading ergonomics.

Minus: Since I have only some "standard" document types that I've set
up some time ago the way I need them and that I don't touch after I've
set them up, I forget how to adapt them when I need to change something.

The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is generation of
documents from databases.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/18/2013 04:24 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the
output I'm looking for.

I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of
using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre
Office, Apple's Pages, etc.

Pluses?  Minuses?


I've been surprised by the responses thusfar to this thread.  Of course, 
I am biased, both because I am a long-time LyX user -- probably one of 
the first aside from Matthias -- and because I am a mathematician, so 
equation-formatting is very important to me.


But I do use LyX for all of my writing; letter, class notes, and of 
course technical writing.  I literally cannot use Word or its clones for 
anything other than reading what someone else wrote.  I don't know how 
to make anything look right using Word.  I am amazed by the way people 
use those programs, worrying about fonts, margins, making headers 
larger/smaller/etc.  I just don't worry about that stuff.   That is the 
biggest plus.  You never have to worry about the pure formatting stuff, 
that is all taken care of.  You only have to worry about what you are 
writing.  Sounds good to me.


For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept (prefer) 
LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with 
their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.  For 
letters I have a file with all my settings, which I just re-use for each 
new letter.  For classroom slides I use beamer -- makes it trivial to do.


I could of course just use raw LaTeX, and sometimes I do.  I am doing 
that now with a paper, because a co-author wrote up the first draft, and 
so we are sticking with the LaTeX rather than translate into LyX.  But 
with LyX I can see what I am doing, with properly typeset equations, so 
I can think while I am writing.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Chris Menzel]

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "David L. Johnson"  wrote:
>...
> For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept (prefer)
LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with their
own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly publish
rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted papers be
submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page paper I'd
written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was excruciating.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Ken Springer]

On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "David L. Johnson" > wrote:
 >...
 > For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept
(prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style
tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
excruciating.


Just a question...  With the prevalence of the .doc/.docx Word file 
usage, have the folks that create LyX considered adding an import/export 
function for Word files?



--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 23.0
Thunderbird 17.0.8
LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/18/2013 09:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "David L. Johnson" > wrote:
>...
> For my papers it is of course ideal.  Math journals all accept
(prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style
tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it.

Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
excruciating.


Just a question...  With the prevalence of the .doc/.docx Word file 
usage, have the folks that create LyX considered adding an 
import/export function for Word files?



The perennial question.  Part of the problem is that, in either 
direction, it is not a 1-1 map.  It might be possible to choose a way to 
import Word files, losing some of the needless formatting, but the other 
way would be a nightmare in terms of preserving any of the LyX/LaTeX 
formats, or equations.  And that is the key, being able to preserve 
something beyond the plain text.  That you can do, since both (well, LyX 
does) allow export to more-or-less plain text.


Another issue is that the "Word file" format is a moving target, even 
worse now with the .docx format that is a zip archive.


--

David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Les Denham]

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:02:31 -0400
Chris Menzel  wrote:

> Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly
> publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted
> papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page
> paper I'd written in LyX into Word for one of these journals was
> excruciating.

Chris,

That kind of experience is what I've had too. But then I remember that
I've saved all that excruciating fiddling with the document through all
the revisions up to the final version. "Transcribing a fairly technical
30 page paper . . . written in LyX into Word" might be excruciating,
but so is writing it in Word in the first place.

I have used LyX as my standard writing tool for more than a decade,
using it for everything from shopping lists to 200-page books. I also
use it (with beamer) for presentations, which usually look much more
professional than PowerPoint presentations.

Perhaps the most useful feature of LyX (in my experience) is the ease
with which it handles crossreferences and floats. The position of a
float might not always be perfect using LyX, but trying to get figures
where you want them in Word is a far thornier problem.

My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is to
us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix
the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.

Les