Re: Installing LyX 2.3.6.1 on Linux MInt 20.3 with TeXLive 2021

2022-03-06 Thread Graeme via lyx-users

On 03/03/2022 22:59, Graeme wrote:
I've just done a clean install of Linux Mint 20.3, and then a full 
install of TeXLive 2021, which cannot be done with the Mint's Synaptic 
Package Manager. Mint 20.3 includes TeXLive 2019 as part of its 
distribution, but I have not (yet) installed that version.


The standard Plain TeX or LaTeX workflows seem to behave normally, so 
I'd now like to install LyX 2.3.6.1 using the (unsupported) PPA 
available on Launchpad at ppa:lyx-devel/release.


However, when I try to install it using Mint's Package Manager, it lists 
a number of standard TeX packages that it claims are necessary, and will 
not proceed unless I also install them. These include:

tex-common
tex-gyre
texlive-base
texlive binaries
texlive-fonts recommended
texlive-lang-greek
texlive-latex-base
texlive-latex-extra
texlive-latex-recommended
texlive-pictures
texlive-plain-generic
texlive-science
tipa

These are mostly TeXLive 2019 versions for which there are already 
TeXLive 2021 versions installed. I'd prefer not to have both 2019 and 
2021 versions of TeXLive installed at the same time.


This prompts a number of linked questions:

a) Will LyX 2.3.6.1 work OK with a TeXLive 2021 installation?

b) Is there a way to force Mint's Package Manager to recognise the 
existence to TeXLive 2021 packages?


c) Is there a way to install LyX 2.3.6.1 without installing the TeXLive 
2019 dependencies? (I'd prefer not to have to compile LyX 2.3.6.1 from 
source.)


d) If I want to install LyX 2.3.6.1 with Mint's Package Manager, will 
this force me to use TeXLive 2019 instead?


I would welcome advice on how to deal with this problem.

Graeme


Thanks to all the replies for their helpful comments.

Both Tobias and Kees suggested looking at the TeX User Group page 
advising how to integrate a vanilla TeX Live with a Debian-based version 
of Linux, such as Ubuntu, or Mint. This can be found at:

https://tug.org/texlive/debian.html#vanilla

As I had already installed a full "vanilla" version of TeXLive 2021, I 
then followed the instructions given on that page. Specifically:


1. Using Mint's Synaptic Package Manager, I installed:
a) The texinfo, tex-common, and lmodern packages
(tex-common was a required dependency for texinfo, and lmodern is a set 
of postscript fonts that may not strictly be required.)

b) The equivs package of command-line tools.

I also added TeXLive's bin directory to the definition of ENV_PATH in 
/etc/login.defs.
(I'm not sure this last step is strictly necessary for my system, as I 
believe it will only affect any new user accounts that are created 
subsequently, but it seems otherwise harmless.)


2. From a terminal window I used the equivs-control command to create 
create a plain text template file called texlive2021local. I then edited 
this file to include some basic information, and the list of packages 
provided by TeXLive 2021. This list is available at:

https://tug.org/texlive/files/debian-equivs-2021-ex.txt

3. I used the equivs-build command to create a dummy package called 
texlive2021local_2021.99-1_all.deb, using the information in the 
file texlive2021local.


4. I "installed" the dummy package using the command:
sudo dpkg -i texlive2021local_2021.99-1_all.deb
A check with Mint's Package manager confirmed that the system now 
recognised a package called texlive2021local, with version number 
2021.99-1, and that this satisfied all the TeX-related dependencies 
needed to let me install LyX 2.3.6.1.


5. Using Mint's Package Manager, I installed LyX 2.3.6.1, including the 
(now much shorter) list of non-TeX-specific dependencies.


I now have a working installation of LyX 2.3.6.1 that uses my local 
installation of TeXLive 2021, so all seems good so far.


Thanks again for the helpful replies to my original query.

Graeme

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Installing LyX 2.3.6.1 on Linux MInt 20.3 with TeXLive 2021

2022-03-03 Thread Graeme via lyx-users
I've just done a clean install of Linux Mint 20.3, and then a full 
install of TeXLive 2021, which cannot be done with the Mint's Synaptic 
Package Manager. Mint 20.3 includes TeXLive 2019 as part of its 
distribution, but I have not (yet) installed that version.


The standard Plain TeX or LaTeX workflows seem to behave normally, so 
I'd now like to install LyX 2.3.6.1 using the (unsupported) PPA 
available on Launchpad at ppa:lyx-devel/release.


However, when I try to install it using Mint's Package Manager, it lists 
a number of standard TeX packages that it claims are necessary, and will 
not proceed unless I also install them. These include:

tex-common
tex-gyre
texlive-base
texlive binaries
texlive-fonts recommended
texlive-lang-greek
texlive-latex-base
texlive-latex-extra
texlive-latex-recommended
texlive-pictures
texlive-plain-generic
texlive-science
tipa

These are mostly TeXLive 2019 versions for which there are already 
TeXLive 2021 versions installed. I'd prefer not to have both 2019 and 
2021 versions of TeXLive installed at the same time.


This prompts a number of linked questions:

a) Will LyX 2.3.6.1 work OK with a TeXLive 2021 installation?

b) Is there a way to force Mint's Package Manager to recognise the 
existence to TeXLive 2021 packages?


c) Is there a way to install LyX 2.3.6.1 without installing the TeXLive 
2019 dependencies? (I'd prefer not to have to compile LyX 2.3.6.1 from 
source.)


d) If I want to install LyX 2.3.6.1 with Mint's Package Manager, will 
this force me to use TeXLive 2019 instead?


I would welcome advice on how to deal with this problem.

Graeme
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