Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 27 July 2006 21:48, Rich Shepard wrote:
I apologize for not remembering how to preview a beamer presentation
 that includes .eps graphics. It has been several months since I last wrote
 a set of slides, and nothing I've tried works. I searched the beamer manual
 and my e-mail file without finding anything useful.

  Just for completeness sake, in case someone search this thread in the 
future. For some reason this seems to be a problem with theme Hannover. It 
does not happen with other beamer themes.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 27 July 2006 21:48, Rich Shepard wrote:
I apologize for not remembering how to preview a beamer presentation
 that includes .eps graphics. It has been several months since I last wrote
 a set of slides, and nothing I've tried works. I searched the beamer manual
 and my e-mail file without finding anything useful.

  Just for completeness sake, in case someone search this thread in the 
future. For some reason this seems to be a problem with theme Hannover. It 
does not happen with other beamer themes.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 27 July 2006 21:48, Rich Shepard wrote:
>I apologize for not remembering how to preview a beamer presentation
> that includes .eps graphics. It has been several months since I last wrote
> a set of slides, and nothing I've tried works. I searched the beamer manual
> and my e-mail file without finding anything useful.

  Just for completeness sake, in case someone search this thread in the 
future. For some reason this seems to be a problem with theme Hannover. It 
does not happen with other beamer themes.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 28 July 2006 14:29, Rich Shepard wrote:
   For the logo you need the full path, but I guess you are doing that
 already.

 Hi, Jose',

    Yes. The full path is given, and there is no extenstion to the file
 name.

  I have just confirmed that it works for me. :-(

  I have the logo as a png image (but I do not place the extension).
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 28 July 2006 14:29, Rich Shepard wrote:
   For the logo you need the full path, but I guess you are doing that
 already.

 Hi, Jose',

    Yes. The full path is given, and there is no extenstion to the file
 name.

  I have just confirmed that it works for me. :-(

  I have the logo as a png image (but I do not place the extension).
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 28 July 2006 14:29, Rich Shepard wrote:
>   For the logo you need the full path, but I guess you are doing that
> already.
>
> Hi, Jose',
>
>    Yes. The full path is given, and there is no extenstion to the file
> name.

  I have just confirmed that it works for me. :-(

  I have the logo as a png image (but I do not place the extension).
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 27 July 2006 22:07, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:
   I apologize for not remembering how to preview a beamer presentation
  that includes .eps graphics. It has been several months since I last
  wrote a set of slides, and nothing I've tried works. I searched the
  beamer manual and my e-mail file without finding anything useful.

    Well, I fixed this problem by removing all but a couple of frames at the
 beginning. The logo does not want to display, but I'll work on that later.

  For the logo you need the full path, but I guess you are doing that already.

  Your problem is strange, I have presentations done with beamer using eps 
files and it just works, since lyx does the convertions in the background.

   On what may be a related issue, I'm using an existing presentation which
  I'll modify (it's quicker than starting from scratch). When I open that
  file, the menu changes from the abbreviated version I created (that
  displays on a single line) to the full 1.4.2 default menu on two lines.

    This remains, but it's of low priority.

  Did this happened with 1.4.1?

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 27 July 2006 22:07, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:
   I apologize for not remembering how to preview a beamer presentation
  that includes .eps graphics. It has been several months since I last
  wrote a set of slides, and nothing I've tried works. I searched the
  beamer manual and my e-mail file without finding anything useful.

    Well, I fixed this problem by removing all but a couple of frames at the
 beginning. The logo does not want to display, but I'll work on that later.

  For the logo you need the full path, but I guess you are doing that already.

  Your problem is strange, I have presentations done with beamer using eps 
files and it just works, since lyx does the convertions in the background.

   On what may be a related issue, I'm using an existing presentation which
  I'll modify (it's quicker than starting from scratch). When I open that
  file, the menu changes from the abbreviated version I created (that
  displays on a single line) to the full 1.4.2 default menu on two lines.

    This remains, but it's of low priority.

  Did this happened with 1.4.1?

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Previewing Beamer Presentation

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 27 July 2006 22:07, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Rich Shepard wrote:
> >  I apologize for not remembering how to preview a beamer presentation
> > that includes .eps graphics. It has been several months since I last
> > wrote a set of slides, and nothing I've tried works. I searched the
> > beamer manual and my e-mail file without finding anything useful.
>
>    Well, I fixed this problem by removing all but a couple of frames at the
> beginning. The logo does not want to display, but I'll work on that later.

  For the logo you need the full path, but I guess you are doing that already.

  Your problem is strange, I have presentations done with beamer using eps 
files and it just works, since lyx does the convertions in the background.

> >  On what may be a related issue, I'm using an existing presentation which
> > I'll modify (it's quicker than starting from scratch). When I open that
> > file, the menu changes from the abbreviated version I created (that
> > displays on a single line) to the full 1.4.2 default menu on two lines.
>
>    This remains, but it's of low priority.

  Did this happened with 1.4.1?

> Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: can't install lyx

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 20 July 2006 23:02, Stephen Smethurst wrote:
 ***
 * So I tried with YUM:
 ***
 $ yum install lyx

  What are the enabled repositories in yum configuration?

  We have several computers running lyx in FC-4 with no problem, both 
installing and updating.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: can't install lyx

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 20 July 2006 23:02, Stephen Smethurst wrote:
 ***
 * So I tried with YUM:
 ***
 $ yum install lyx

  What are the enabled repositories in yum configuration?

  We have several computers running lyx in FC-4 with no problem, both 
installing and updating.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: can't install lyx

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 20 July 2006 23:02, Stephen Smethurst wrote:
> ***
> * So I tried with YUM:
> ***
> $ yum install lyx

  What are the enabled repositories in yum configuration?

  We have several computers running lyx in FC-4 with no problem, both 
installing and updating.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Jose' Matos]

On Sunday 16 July 2006 23:01, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 I do not think the Windows installer has a Beamer layout at all.  (Is
 there not some issue with licensing?)  I use the one that Till Tantau
 ships with Beamer.

  There is no problem with beamer's license it is the same as LyX (GPL).
https://sourceforge.net/projects/latex-beamer/
-- 
José Abílio

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Jose' Matos]

On Sunday 16 July 2006 23:01, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 I do not think the Windows installer has a Beamer layout at all.  (Is
 there not some issue with licensing?)  I use the one that Till Tantau
 ships with Beamer.

  There is no problem with beamer's license it is the same as LyX (GPL).
https://sourceforge.net/projects/latex-beamer/
-- 
José Abílio

Re: beamer.layout on Windows

[Jose' Matos]

On Sunday 16 July 2006 23:01, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> I do not think the Windows installer has a Beamer layout at all.  (Is
> there not some issue with licensing?)  I use the one that Till Tantau
> ships with Beamer.

  There is no problem with beamer's license it is the same as LyX (GPL).
https://sourceforge.net/projects/latex-beamer/
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:33, Georg Baum wrote:

 Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700

  As soon as finished what I am doing I would like to extend LyX.py to support 
some scripting operations over lyx files.

  One of the other examples that I have in mind (it should be easy) is to get 
the set of words present in a lyx document (I am generalising this to imply 
the file and its slaves).

  This is usefull to construct an index, as Steve (IIRC) said in this list 
sometime ago.

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:33, Georg Baum wrote:

 Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700

  As soon as finished what I am doing I would like to extend LyX.py to support 
some scripting operations over lyx files.

  One of the other examples that I have in mind (it should be easy) is to get 
the set of words present in a lyx document (I am generalising this to imply 
the file and its slaves).

  This is usefull to construct an index, as Steve (IIRC) said in this list 
sometime ago.

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:33, Georg Baum wrote:
>
> Already there: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700

  As soon as finished what I am doing I would like to extend LyX.py to support 
some scripting operations over lyx files.

  One of the other examples that I have in mind (it should be easy) is to get 
the set of words present in a lyx document (I am generalising this to imply 
the file and its slaves).

  This is usefull to construct an index, as Steve (IIRC) said in this list 
sometime ago.

> Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the share/lyx/doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx.in file for?

  It is used to generate the file share/lyx/doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx, that depends 
on the latex packages installed. You can think of it like a template used to 
build the file that can be accessed in Help-Latex Configuration.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am preparing pkgsrc packages (for NetBSD, DragonFly and other operating
 systems).

  I do the same for Fedora, although I am not the person packaging LyX. Rex 
does a far better work than I would do. :-)

 What can I do to pregenerate this at installation time? (Especially since
 that share/lyx/doc may be a read-only location on the package
 destination.)

  This is done at installation time, or else the script would need several 
privileges.

  Reading the rpm spec file I see there this bit:

%post
...
cd %{_datadir}/lyx  ./configure   /dev/null 21 ||:

  If you read share/lyx/configure you will see that this is the script 
responsible for generating LaTeXConfig.lyx from LaTeXConfig.lyx.in

  So like in the rpm case you can do it at installation time. FWIW it is the 
original purpose of the script.
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 23:06, Curtis Osterhoudt wrote:
      Does anyone have more experience with such programs?

      Perhaps I just need to get better organized :)

  Could you, please, fill an entry in bugzilla with this request so that it 
does not get forgotten?

  As soon as I have more time (August) I have a look into it.

            Thanks,
             Curtis Osterhoudt

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 21:54, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 mail.k schrieb:
  Is the list a gentlemen's club? ...

 This list is not, but I guess Rich was addressing the developers (give
 him the benefit of doubt...)

  Depending on the language you use one of the genders qualifies for the 
group.

  You say mankind, but you do not say womankind. ;-)

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the share/lyx/doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx.in file for?

  It is used to generate the file share/lyx/doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx, that depends 
on the latex packages installed. You can think of it like a template used to 
build the file that can be accessed in Help-Latex Configuration.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am preparing pkgsrc packages (for NetBSD, DragonFly and other operating
 systems).

  I do the same for Fedora, although I am not the person packaging LyX. Rex 
does a far better work than I would do. :-)

 What can I do to pregenerate this at installation time? (Especially since
 that share/lyx/doc may be a read-only location on the package
 destination.)

  This is done at installation time, or else the script would need several 
privileges.

  Reading the rpm spec file I see there this bit:

%post
...
cd %{_datadir}/lyx  ./configure   /dev/null 21 ||:

  If you read share/lyx/configure you will see that this is the script 
responsible for generating LaTeXConfig.lyx from LaTeXConfig.lyx.in

  So like in the rpm case you can do it at installation time. FWIW it is the 
original purpose of the script.
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 23:06, Curtis Osterhoudt wrote:
      Does anyone have more experience with such programs?

      Perhaps I just need to get better organized :)

  Could you, please, fill an entry in bugzilla with this request so that it 
does not get forgotten?

  As soon as I have more time (August) I have a look into it.

            Thanks,
             Curtis Osterhoudt

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 21:54, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 mail.k schrieb:
  Is the list a gentlemen's club? ...

 This list is not, but I guess Rich was addressing the developers (give
 him the benefit of doubt...)

  Depending on the language you use one of the genders qualifies for the 
group.

  You say mankind, but you do not say womankind. ;-)

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the share/lyx/doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx.in file for?

  It is used to generate the file share/lyx/doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx, that depends 
on the latex packages installed. You can think of it like a template used to 
build the file that can be accessed in Help->Latex Configuration.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am preparing pkgsrc packages (for NetBSD, DragonFly and other operating
> systems).

  I do the same for Fedora, although I am not the person packaging LyX. Rex 
does a far better work than I would do. :-)

> What can I do to pregenerate this at installation time? (Especially since
> that share/lyx/doc may be a read-only location on the package
> destination.)

  This is done at installation time, or else the script would need several 
privileges.

  Reading the rpm spec file I see there this bit:

%post
...
cd %{_datadir}/lyx && ./configure  > /dev/null 2>&1 ||:

  If you read share/lyx/configure you will see that this is the script 
responsible for generating LaTeXConfig.lyx from LaTeXConfig.lyx.in

  So like in the rpm case you can do it at installation time. FWIW it is the 
original purpose of the script.
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Collect all documents used in a LyX file...revisited

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 23:06, Curtis Osterhoudt wrote:
>      Does anyone have more experience with such programs?
>
>      Perhaps I just need to get better organized :)

  Could you, please, fill an entry in bugzilla with this request so that it 
does not get forgotten?

  As soon as I have more time (August) I have a look into it.

>            Thanks,
>             Curtis Osterhoudt

-- 
José Abílio

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX 1.4.2 is released

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 14 July 2006 21:54, Sven Schreiber wrote:
> mail.k schrieb:
> > Is the list a gentlemen's club? ...
>
> This list is not, but I guess Rich was addressing the developers (give
> him the benefit of doubt...)

  Depending on the language you use one of the genders qualifies for the 
group.

  You say mankind, but you do not say womankind. ;-)

-- 
José Abílio

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 08:45, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 I cannot reproduce this either (neither the cases described in the other
 mails).

  I have finally succeeded with 1.4.2svn

  I have inserted two lines with one word and pressed enter to get a third 
(empty) line.

  While in the last empty line I pressed Ctrl-Shift-Left and... I got a crash.

 Can someone of you provide a backtrace?

  Follows attached. The culprit here seems to be the empty line. I have been 
working with lyx daily and I never noticed this because I do not usually do 
this on an empty line.

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio
(gdb) bt
#0  0x080b3206 in ParagraphParameters::depth (this=0x3c) at 
ParagraphParameters.C:75
#1  0x081ebaa6 in (anonymous namespace)::changeDepthAllowed 
(type=LyXText::INC_DEPTH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], max_depth=0) at text2.C:373
#2  0x081ebd06 in LyXText::changeDepthAllowed (this=0xa75f71c, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], type=LyXText::INC_DEPTH) at text2.C:393
#3  0x081f08c4 in LyXText::getStatus (this=0xa75f71c, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at text3.C:1578
#4  0x082df899 in InsetText::getStatus (this=0xa75f6f4, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at insettext.C:263
#5  0x08151637 in (anonymous namespace)::getStatus ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lyxfunc.C:169
#6  0x08154bb5 in LyXFunc::getStatus (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyxfunc.C:616
#7  0x083be9cb in lyx::frontend::QLToolbar::update (this=0xa699768) at 
QLToolbar.C:231
#8  0x0830a9df in Toolbars::update (this=0xa641548) at Toolbars.C:150
#9  0x0830ae84 in Toolbars::update (this=0xa641548, in_math=false, 
in_table=false) at Toolbars.C:67
#10 0x08307d3a in LyXView::updateToolbars (this=0xa657898) at LyXView.C:116
#11 0x08158305 in LyXFunc::sendDispatchMessage (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lyxfunc.C:1625
#12 0x0816080e in LyXFunc::dispatch (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyxfunc.C:1612
#13 0x08161951 in LyXFunc::processKeySym (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
state=5) at lyxfunc.C:328
#14 0x0806529d in BufferView::Pimpl::workAreaKeyPress (this=0xa65f290, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], state=5) at BufferView_pimpl.C:568
#15 0x08074258 in 
boost::detail::function::void_function_obj_invoker2boost::_bi::bind_tvoid, 
boost::_mfi::mf2void, BufferView::Pimpl, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state, boost::_bi::list3boost::_bi::valueBufferView::Pimpl*, 
boost::arg1, boost::arg2  , void, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state::invoke (function_obj_ptr=
{obj_ptr = 0xa663c38, const_obj_ptr = 0xa663c38, func_ptr = 0xa663c38, data = 
8}, [EMAIL PROTECTED], a1=5) at ../boost/boost/bind/mem_fn_template.hpp:252
#16 0x08466021 in boost::function2void, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state, std::allocatorvoid ::operator() (this=0xa663c24, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], a1=5)
at ../../../boost/boost/function/function_template.hpp:581
#17 0x0846712a in 
boost::operator++boost::signals::detail::slot_call_iteratorboost::signals::detail::call_bound2void::callerboost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
 key_modifier::state, boost::functionvoid ()(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state), std::allocatorvoid  , 
boost::signals::detail::named_slot_map_iterator, 
boost::signals::detail::unusable, boost::single_pass_traversal_tag, 
boost::signals::detail::unusable const, int ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
../../../boost/boost/signals/signal_template.hpp:119
#18 0x0846785d in boost::signal2void, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state, boost::last_valuevoid, int, std::lessint, 
boost::functionvoid ()(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, key_modifier::state), 
std::allocatorvoid  ::operator() (this=0xa65f6f4, [EMAIL PROTECTED], a2=5) 
at ../../../boost/boost/last_value.hpp:43
#19 0x084644d6 in QContentPane::keyeventTimeout (this=0xa661778) at 
QContentPane.C:292
#20 0x0846ebaa in QContentPane::qt_invoke (this=0xa661778, _id=48, 
_o=0xbf81cec8) at QContentPane_moc.C:91
#21 0x00a0735a in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x00a07ecd in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x00d93b69 in QTimer::timeout () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x00a2e9ff in QTimer::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x0099e82b in QApplication::internalNotify () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x0099fc79 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0x00992632 in QEventLoop::activateTimers () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x009453ef in QEventLoop::processEvents () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x009b7cd0 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0x009b7b96 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0x0099e33f in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0x0837aeb5 in lyx_gui::start ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyx_gui.C:253
#33 0x08143aff in 

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 01:29, Steve Harris wrote:

 Good day José,

  Good day,

 After reading your post, I tested again and this is
 not fixed in 1.4.2. It isn't much of a bug.

  After several trials I succeeded into reproducing the bug, even for 
1.4.2.svn.

 This is an example line.

 {If I type in ctrl-shift-leftarrow down here, start of a
 new paragraph, and I have entered no text, blank in other
 words, then the blue highlight reverts back to the end of

 This is an example line.(-- begins blue highlight)

 and if you type in it, then it will segfault lyx. If you have
 typed more than one paragraph with words it works normally.}

 But again, if you have typed three paragraphs and then
 type ctrl-shift-leftarrow at the beginning of a new
 paragraph which has no words (blank) then it will segfault.

  I noticed that too.

 It means that if you end a paragraph by using enter, then
 you can't change your mind with ctrl-shift-leftarrow and
 go back to the previous paragraph and type a little more
 before you start your new paragraph. You can go back with
 your mouse to the end of the previous paragraph and
 ctrl-shift-leftarrow will work normally. I am something
 of a keyboard purist, but I normally use Edit/Undo to
 reverse my last step; but Alt-e-u will Undo, take you
 back to the end of the previous paragraph (reverses enter)
 and then ctrl-shift-leftarrow will work as expected.

  Sometimes it crashes immediately.

 It may have seemed if I wrote in too much detail. But you
 reported it worked on Linux and I have the most excellent
 FC4, and it malfunctions just as reported:

 This is the first paragraph. enter

 begins the second paragraph = blank: - ctrl-shift-leftarrow

 goes back to the end of the first paragraph and freezes the
 machine. Shortly afterwards it exited with the same error
 message that I reported for Cygwin Lyx 1.4.1 and it segfaults
 in Joost's windows 1.4.2 also, but the error screen exits too
 fast to see the text. This message is from FC4/Cygwin Lyx1.4.1.

 --

 $ lyx
 LyX: Attempting to save document newfile1.lyx
   /cygdrive/c/home/newfile1.lyx.emergency
Save seems successful. Phew.

 lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught
 Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the
 bug-reporting instructions in Help-Introduction and
 send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks !
 Bye.
 Aborted (core dumped)

 

 Is the upgrade to FC5 *strongly recommended*?

  Nope.

 Stephen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 08:45, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

 I cannot reproduce this either (neither the cases described in the other
 mails).

  I have finally succeeded with 1.4.2svn

  I have inserted two lines with one word and pressed enter to get a third 
(empty) line.

  While in the last empty line I pressed Ctrl-Shift-Left and... I got a crash.

 Can someone of you provide a backtrace?

  Follows attached. The culprit here seems to be the empty line. I have been 
working with lyx daily and I never noticed this because I do not usually do 
this on an empty line.

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio
(gdb) bt
#0  0x080b3206 in ParagraphParameters::depth (this=0x3c) at 
ParagraphParameters.C:75
#1  0x081ebaa6 in (anonymous namespace)::changeDepthAllowed 
(type=LyXText::INC_DEPTH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], max_depth=0) at text2.C:373
#2  0x081ebd06 in LyXText::changeDepthAllowed (this=0xa75f71c, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], type=LyXText::INC_DEPTH) at text2.C:393
#3  0x081f08c4 in LyXText::getStatus (this=0xa75f71c, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at text3.C:1578
#4  0x082df899 in InsetText::getStatus (this=0xa75f6f4, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at insettext.C:263
#5  0x08151637 in (anonymous namespace)::getStatus ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lyxfunc.C:169
#6  0x08154bb5 in LyXFunc::getStatus (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyxfunc.C:616
#7  0x083be9cb in lyx::frontend::QLToolbar::update (this=0xa699768) at 
QLToolbar.C:231
#8  0x0830a9df in Toolbars::update (this=0xa641548) at Toolbars.C:150
#9  0x0830ae84 in Toolbars::update (this=0xa641548, in_math=false, 
in_table=false) at Toolbars.C:67
#10 0x08307d3a in LyXView::updateToolbars (this=0xa657898) at LyXView.C:116
#11 0x08158305 in LyXFunc::sendDispatchMessage (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lyxfunc.C:1625
#12 0x0816080e in LyXFunc::dispatch (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyxfunc.C:1612
#13 0x08161951 in LyXFunc::processKeySym (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
state=5) at lyxfunc.C:328
#14 0x0806529d in BufferView::Pimpl::workAreaKeyPress (this=0xa65f290, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], state=5) at BufferView_pimpl.C:568
#15 0x08074258 in 
boost::detail::function::void_function_obj_invoker2boost::_bi::bind_tvoid, 
boost::_mfi::mf2void, BufferView::Pimpl, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state, boost::_bi::list3boost::_bi::valueBufferView::Pimpl*, 
boost::arg1, boost::arg2  , void, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state::invoke (function_obj_ptr=
{obj_ptr = 0xa663c38, const_obj_ptr = 0xa663c38, func_ptr = 0xa663c38, data = 
8}, [EMAIL PROTECTED], a1=5) at ../boost/boost/bind/mem_fn_template.hpp:252
#16 0x08466021 in boost::function2void, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state, std::allocatorvoid ::operator() (this=0xa663c24, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], a1=5)
at ../../../boost/boost/function/function_template.hpp:581
#17 0x0846712a in 
boost::operator++boost::signals::detail::slot_call_iteratorboost::signals::detail::call_bound2void::callerboost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym,
 key_modifier::state, boost::functionvoid ()(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state), std::allocatorvoid  , 
boost::signals::detail::named_slot_map_iterator, 
boost::signals::detail::unusable, boost::single_pass_traversal_tag, 
boost::signals::detail::unusable const, int ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
../../../boost/boost/signals/signal_template.hpp:119
#18 0x0846785d in boost::signal2void, boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, 
key_modifier::state, boost::last_valuevoid, int, std::lessint, 
boost::functionvoid ()(boost::shared_ptrLyXKeySym, key_modifier::state), 
std::allocatorvoid  ::operator() (this=0xa65f6f4, [EMAIL PROTECTED], a2=5) 
at ../../../boost/boost/last_value.hpp:43
#19 0x084644d6 in QContentPane::keyeventTimeout (this=0xa661778) at 
QContentPane.C:292
#20 0x0846ebaa in QContentPane::qt_invoke (this=0xa661778, _id=48, 
_o=0xbf81cec8) at QContentPane_moc.C:91
#21 0x00a0735a in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x00a07ecd in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x00d93b69 in QTimer::timeout () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x00a2e9ff in QTimer::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x0099e82b in QApplication::internalNotify () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x0099fc79 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0x00992632 in QEventLoop::activateTimers () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x009453ef in QEventLoop::processEvents () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x009b7cd0 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0x009b7b96 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0x0099e33f in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0x0837aeb5 in lyx_gui::start ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyx_gui.C:253
#33 0x08143aff in 

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 01:29, Steve Harris wrote:

 Good day José,

  Good day,

 After reading your post, I tested again and this is
 not fixed in 1.4.2. It isn't much of a bug.

  After several trials I succeeded into reproducing the bug, even for 
1.4.2.svn.

 This is an example line.

 {If I type in ctrl-shift-leftarrow down here, start of a
 new paragraph, and I have entered no text, blank in other
 words, then the blue highlight reverts back to the end of

 This is an example line.(-- begins blue highlight)

 and if you type in it, then it will segfault lyx. If you have
 typed more than one paragraph with words it works normally.}

 But again, if you have typed three paragraphs and then
 type ctrl-shift-leftarrow at the beginning of a new
 paragraph which has no words (blank) then it will segfault.

  I noticed that too.

 It means that if you end a paragraph by using enter, then
 you can't change your mind with ctrl-shift-leftarrow and
 go back to the previous paragraph and type a little more
 before you start your new paragraph. You can go back with
 your mouse to the end of the previous paragraph and
 ctrl-shift-leftarrow will work normally. I am something
 of a keyboard purist, but I normally use Edit/Undo to
 reverse my last step; but Alt-e-u will Undo, take you
 back to the end of the previous paragraph (reverses enter)
 and then ctrl-shift-leftarrow will work as expected.

  Sometimes it crashes immediately.

 It may have seemed if I wrote in too much detail. But you
 reported it worked on Linux and I have the most excellent
 FC4, and it malfunctions just as reported:

 This is the first paragraph. enter

 begins the second paragraph = blank: - ctrl-shift-leftarrow

 goes back to the end of the first paragraph and freezes the
 machine. Shortly afterwards it exited with the same error
 message that I reported for Cygwin Lyx 1.4.1 and it segfaults
 in Joost's windows 1.4.2 also, but the error screen exits too
 fast to see the text. This message is from FC4/Cygwin Lyx1.4.1.

 --

 $ lyx
 LyX: Attempting to save document newfile1.lyx
   /cygdrive/c/home/newfile1.lyx.emergency
Save seems successful. Phew.

 lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught
 Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the
 bug-reporting instructions in Help-Introduction and
 send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks !
 Bye.
 Aborted (core dumped)

 

 Is the upgrade to FC5 *strongly recommended*?

  Nope.

 Stephen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 08:45, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
>
> I cannot reproduce this either (neither the cases described in the other
> mails).

  I have finally succeeded with 1.4.2svn

  I have inserted two lines with one word and pressed enter to get a third 
(empty) line.

  While in the last empty line I pressed Ctrl-Shift-Left and... I got a crash.

> Can someone of you provide a backtrace?

  Follows attached. The culprit here seems to be the empty line. I have been 
working with lyx daily and I never noticed this because I do not usually do 
this on an empty line.

> Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio
(gdb) bt
#0  0x080b3206 in ParagraphParameters::depth (this=0x3c) at 
ParagraphParameters.C:75
#1  0x081ebaa6 in (anonymous namespace)::changeDepthAllowed 
(type=LyXText::INC_DEPTH, [EMAIL PROTECTED], max_depth=0) at text2.C:373
#2  0x081ebd06 in LyXText::changeDepthAllowed (this=0xa75f71c, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], type=LyXText::INC_DEPTH) at text2.C:393
#3  0x081f08c4 in LyXText::getStatus (this=0xa75f71c, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at text3.C:1578
#4  0x082df899 in InsetText::getStatus (this=0xa75f6f4, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at insettext.C:263
#5  0x08151637 in (anonymous namespace)::getStatus ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lyxfunc.C:169
#6  0x08154bb5 in LyXFunc::getStatus (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyxfunc.C:616
#7  0x083be9cb in lyx::frontend::QLToolbar::update (this=0xa699768) at 
QLToolbar.C:231
#8  0x0830a9df in Toolbars::update (this=0xa641548) at Toolbars.C:150
#9  0x0830ae84 in Toolbars::update (this=0xa641548, in_math=false, 
in_table=false) at Toolbars.C:67
#10 0x08307d3a in LyXView::updateToolbars (this=0xa657898) at LyXView.C:116
#11 0x08158305 in LyXFunc::sendDispatchMessage (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lyxfunc.C:1625
#12 0x0816080e in LyXFunc::dispatch (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyxfunc.C:1612
#13 0x08161951 in LyXFunc::processKeySym (this=0xa642340, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
state=5) at lyxfunc.C:328
#14 0x0806529d in BufferView::Pimpl::workAreaKeyPress (this=0xa65f290, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], state=5) at BufferView_pimpl.C:568
#15 0x08074258 in 
boost::detail::function::void_function_obj_invoker2, boost::_bi::list3, 
boost::arg<1>, boost::arg<2> > >, void, boost::shared_ptr, 
key_modifier::state>::invoke (function_obj_ptr=
{obj_ptr = 0xa663c38, const_obj_ptr = 0xa663c38, func_ptr = 0xa663c38, data = 
"8"}, [EMAIL PROTECTED], a1=5) at ../boost/boost/bind/mem_fn_template.hpp:252
#16 0x08466021 in boost::function2::operator() (this=0xa663c24, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED], a1=5)
at ../../../boost/boost/function/function_template.hpp:581
#17 0x0846712a in 
boost::operator++ >, 
boost::signals::detail::named_slot_map_iterator>, 
boost::signals::detail::unusable, boost::single_pass_traversal_tag, 
boost::signals::detail::unusable const&, int> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
../../../boost/boost/signals/signal_template.hpp:119
#18 0x0846785d in boost::signal2 >::operator() (this=0xa65f6f4, [EMAIL PROTECTED], a2=5) 
at ../../../boost/boost/last_value.hpp:43
#19 0x084644d6 in QContentPane::keyeventTimeout (this=0xa661778) at 
QContentPane.C:292
#20 0x0846ebaa in QContentPane::qt_invoke (this=0xa661778, _id=48, 
_o=0xbf81cec8) at QContentPane_moc.C:91
#21 0x00a0735a in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x00a07ecd in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x00d93b69 in QTimer::timeout () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x00a2e9ff in QTimer::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x0099e82b in QApplication::internalNotify () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x0099fc79 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0x00992632 in QEventLoop::activateTimers () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x009453ef in QEventLoop::processEvents () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x009b7cd0 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0x009b7b96 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0x0099e33f in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0x0837aeb5 in lyx_gui::start ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at 
lyx_gui.C:253
#33 0x08143aff in LyX::exec2 (this=0xa592900, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
argv=0xbf81d714) at lyx_main.C:298
#34 0x0837ba9a in 

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 01:29, Steve Harris wrote:
>
> Good day José,

  Good day,

> After reading your post, I tested again and this is
> not fixed in 1.4.2. It isn't much of a bug.

  After several trials I succeeded into reproducing the bug, even for 
1.4.2.svn.

> This is an example line.
>
> {If I type in ctrl-shift-leftarrow down here, start of a
> new paragraph, and I have entered no text, blank in other
> words, then the blue highlight reverts back to the end of
>
> This is an example line.(<-- begins blue highlight)
>
> and if you type in it, then it will segfault lyx. If you have
> typed more than one paragraph with words it works normally.}
>
> But again, if you have typed three paragraphs and then
> type "ctrl-shift-leftarrow" at the beginning of a new
> paragraph which has no words (blank) then it will segfault.

  I noticed that too.

> It means that if you end a paragraph by using enter, then
> you can't change your mind with "ctrl-shift-leftarrow" and
> go back to the previous paragraph and type a little more
> before you start your new paragraph. You can go back with
> your mouse to the end of the previous paragraph and
> "ctrl-shift-leftarrow" will work normally. I am something
> of a keyboard purist, but I normally use Edit/Undo to
> reverse my last step; but Alt-e-u will Undo, take you
> back to the end of the previous paragraph (reverses enter)
> and then "ctrl-shift-leftarrow" will work as expected.

  Sometimes it crashes immediately.

> It may have seemed if I wrote in too much detail. But you
> reported it worked on Linux and I have the most excellent
> FC4, and it malfunctions just as reported:
>
> This is the first paragraph. 
>
> begins the second paragraph = blank: -> ctrl-shift-leftarrow
>
> goes back to the end of the first paragraph and freezes the
> machine. Shortly afterwards it exited with the same error
> message that I reported for Cygwin Lyx 1.4.1 and it segfaults
> in Joost's windows 1.4.2 also, but the error screen exits too
> fast to see the text. This message is from FC4/Cygwin Lyx1.4.1.
>
> --
>
> $ lyx
> LyX: Attempting to save document newfile1.lyx
>   /cygdrive/c/home/newfile1.lyx.emergency
>Save seems successful. Phew.
>
> lyx: SIGSEGV signal caught
> Sorry, you have found a bug in LyX. Please read the
> bug-reporting instructions in Help->Introduction and
> send us a bug report, if necessary. Thanks !
> Bye.
> Aborted (core dumped)
>
> 
>
> Is the upgrade to FC5 *strongly recommended*?

  Nope.

> Stephen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 11 July 2006 20:50, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 For me the keyboard is not responding in lyx anymore after that. Can
 anybody confirm this? Is it known?

  I do not remember such bug report. :-(
  I would like to hear from other windows users. If the bug is not there it 
should be filled in bugzilla to be fixed in 1.4.2.

 Ctrl-shift-left may be stupid to use, but I was just following a hunch...

  Not stupid at all, it selects text from your current position to left. I 
guess that this was your hunch.

 this is 1.4.1 on windows with official installer

  It works on linux, I have been using it all day. :-)

 thanks,
 sven

-- 
José Abílio

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 11 July 2006 20:50, Sven Schreiber wrote:
 For me the keyboard is not responding in lyx anymore after that. Can
 anybody confirm this? Is it known?

  I do not remember such bug report. :-(
  I would like to hear from other windows users. If the bug is not there it 
should be filled in bugzilla to be fixed in 1.4.2.

 Ctrl-shift-left may be stupid to use, but I was just following a hunch...

  Not stupid at all, it selects text from your current position to left. I 
guess that this was your hunch.

 this is 1.4.1 on windows with official installer

  It works on linux, I have been using it all day. :-)

 thanks,
 sven

-- 
José Abílio

Re: bug(?): strange behavior after ctrl-shift-left

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 11 July 2006 20:50, Sven Schreiber wrote:
> For me the keyboard is not responding in lyx anymore after that. Can
> anybody confirm this? Is it known?

  I do not remember such bug report. :-(
  I would like to hear from other windows users. If the bug is not there it 
should be filled in bugzilla to be fixed in 1.4.2.

> Ctrl-shift-left may be stupid to use, but I was just following a hunch...

  Not stupid at all, it selects text from your current position to left. I 
guess that this was your hunch.

> this is 1.4.1 on windows with official installer

  It works on linux, I have been using it all day. :-)

> thanks,
> sven

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Generated SGML

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 28 June 2006 15:48, John Coppens wrote:
 Hello José.

 Should I officially submit this as a bug-report?

  Please do. I am busy in the next three weeks and I do not expect to take 
care of it before but at least it is not forgotten.

    To avoid this notice that manpage_linuxdoc example as
  title=LyX sectnum=1
 
  as Document-Settings-Options
 
    this will fix at least this problem.

 I'm not sure which problem this solves - there are still many error
 messages left (see attachment)

    Notice that this uses linuxdoc not docbook. I intend to obsolete this
  layout with another based on docbook, and have lyx2lyx do the
  convertion so it will still generated valid document even after
  linuxdoc is removed.

 Is there a layout for manpages in docbook? I could find only 'Article',
 'Book', 'Chapter' and 'Section' for docbook.

  It is in my to do list after the hurry period. :-)
  I had others requests regarding this class and I only need some time to 
compose the layout file.

   I also found references that XML is now preferred to SGML for DocBook,
   but found no way to export that.

  It is there, you have the two variants docbook and docbook(xml) for lyx 
1.4.x

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Generated SGML

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 28 June 2006 15:48, John Coppens wrote:
 Hello José.

 Should I officially submit this as a bug-report?

  Please do. I am busy in the next three weeks and I do not expect to take 
care of it before but at least it is not forgotten.

    To avoid this notice that manpage_linuxdoc example as
  title=LyX sectnum=1
 
  as Document-Settings-Options
 
    this will fix at least this problem.

 I'm not sure which problem this solves - there are still many error
 messages left (see attachment)

    Notice that this uses linuxdoc not docbook. I intend to obsolete this
  layout with another based on docbook, and have lyx2lyx do the
  convertion so it will still generated valid document even after
  linuxdoc is removed.

 Is there a layout for manpages in docbook? I could find only 'Article',
 'Book', 'Chapter' and 'Section' for docbook.

  It is in my to do list after the hurry period. :-)
  I had others requests regarding this class and I only need some time to 
compose the layout file.

   I also found references that XML is now preferred to SGML for DocBook,
   but found no way to export that.

  It is there, you have the two variants docbook and docbook(xml) for lyx 
1.4.x

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Generated SGML

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 28 June 2006 15:48, John Coppens wrote:
> Hello José.
>
> Should I officially submit this as a bug-report?

  Please do. I am busy in the next three weeks and I do not expect to take 
care of it before but at least it is not forgotten.

> >   To avoid this notice that manpage_linuxdoc example as
> > title="LyX" sectnum="1"
> >
> > as Document->Settings->Options
> >
> >   this will fix at least this problem.
>
> I'm not sure which problem this solves - there are still many error
> messages left (see attachment)
>
> >   Notice that this uses linuxdoc not docbook. I intend to obsolete this
> > layout with another based on docbook, and have lyx2lyx do the
> > convertion so it will still generated valid document even after
> > linuxdoc is removed.
>
> Is there a layout for manpages in docbook? I could find only 'Article',
> 'Book', 'Chapter' and 'Section' for docbook.

  It is in my to do list after the hurry period. :-)
  I had others requests regarding this class and I only need some time to 
compose the layout file.

> > > I also found references that XML is now preferred to SGML for DocBook,
> > > but found no way to export that.

  It is there, you have the two variants docbook and docbook(xml) for lyx 
1.4.x

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Generated SGML

[Jose' Matos]

On Monday 26 June 2006 17:22, John Coppens wrote:
 Hi all.

 I was trying to make a manpage with LyX 1.4.1, so I started a new doc
 with the docbook manpage layout. I did a few sections, and exported to
 SGML. The generated SGML had an extra '' at the beginning:

 ---


 manpage!-- LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see
 http://www.lyx.org sect1NAME
 ---

 which caused sgml2txt to cough... But there were many other problems:

  You found a bug. :-(

  To avoid this notice that manpage_linuxdoc example as
title=LyX sectnum=1

as Document-Settings-Options

  this will fix at least this problem.

 Apparently the /item tag isn't generated... I wonder if I'm doing
 things completely wrong here? I found a HowTo on using LyX for DocBook
 things, but it was quite old (announcing LyX 1.2
 http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/)

  Notice that this uses linuxdoc not docbook. I intend to obsolete this layout 
with another based on docbook, and have lyx2lyx do the convertion so it will 
still generated valid document even after linuxdoc is removed.

 I also found references that XML is now preferred to SGML for DocBook,
 but found no way to export that.

  I intend to add this layout this Summer.

 Thanks in advance
 John

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Generated SGML

[Jose' Matos]

On Monday 26 June 2006 17:22, John Coppens wrote:
 Hi all.

 I was trying to make a manpage with LyX 1.4.1, so I started a new doc
 with the docbook manpage layout. I did a few sections, and exported to
 SGML. The generated SGML had an extra '' at the beginning:

 ---


 manpage!-- LyX 1.4.1 created this file. For more info see
 http://www.lyx.org sect1NAME
 ---

 which caused sgml2txt to cough... But there were many other problems:

  You found a bug. :-(

  To avoid this notice that manpage_linuxdoc example as
title=LyX sectnum=1

as Document-Settings-Options

  this will fix at least this problem.

 Apparently the /item tag isn't generated... I wonder if I'm doing
 things completely wrong here? I found a HowTo on using LyX for DocBook
 things, but it was quite old (announcing LyX 1.2
 http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/)

  Notice that this uses linuxdoc not docbook. I intend to obsolete this layout 
with another based on docbook, and have lyx2lyx do the convertion so it will 
still generated valid document even after linuxdoc is removed.

 I also found references that XML is now preferred to SGML for DocBook,
 but found no way to export that.

  I intend to add this layout this Summer.

 Thanks in advance
 John

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Generated SGML

[Jose' Matos]

On Monday 26 June 2006 17:22, John Coppens wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I was trying to make a manpage with LyX 1.4.1, so I started a new doc
> with the docbook manpage layout. I did a few sections, and exported to
> SGML. The generated SGML had an extra '>' at the beginning:
>
> ---
>
>
> 
> which caused sgml2txt to cough... But there were many other problems:

  You found a bug. :-(

  To avoid this notice that manpage_linuxdoc example as
title="LyX" sectnum="1"

as Document->Settings->Options

  this will fix at least this problem.

> Apparently the  tag isn't generated... I wonder if I'm doing
> things completely wrong here? I found a HowTo on using LyX for DocBook
> things, but it was quite old (announcing LyX 1.2
> http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/)

  Notice that this uses linuxdoc not docbook. I intend to obsolete this layout 
with another based on docbook, and have lyx2lyx do the convertion so it will 
still generated valid document even after linuxdoc is removed.

> I also found references that XML is now preferred to SGML for DocBook,
> but found no way to export that.

  I intend to add this layout this Summer.

> Thanks in advance
> John

-- 
José Abílio

Re: lyx-1.4.1 display fonts

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 24 June 2006 11:57, Subir Singh Lamba wrote:
 Hello,

   I have compiled and installed lyx-1.4.1. using xforms option on
 redhat9.0. Now the problem is symbols are not properly displayed in the
 lyx file while they appear properly in .ps or .pdf file. What do I need to
 do to overcome this problem ?

 Any help will be greatlty appreciated.

  According to your description you seem to be missing the latex-xft-fonts 
package.

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Unsorted#mathSymbolsNotShown

 Regards,

 Subir

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Numbered vs. Unnumbered Sectioning

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 23 June 2006 23:03, Rich Shepard wrote:
Why is it that numbered sectioning commands appear both in a
 ToC and on the fancy headers, but their unnumbered versions don't? I know
 this is a LaTeX action, but I'm wondering why it's this way.

  I guess that is by design. :-)
  The start sections are to be used when you want to give emphasis to some 
part of your document but do not want it to show in TOC.

  Notice that koma class of layouts as a style called addchap, addsect and 
addpart that act as start section but show in TOC.

I can see unnumbered sections in the frontmatter of a book or report,
 but to not have headers with the sectioning titles? And articles -- at
 least in the science fields in which I am most familiar -- have sections,
 but they're not numbered. Yet the running heads reflect the page's section.

  You can use Document-Settings-Numbering and TOC to control this.

  You can use sections (and derived) without a number. By default only 
paragraph and subparagraph (level 4 and 5) are not numbered. You can easily 
change that there. Try it. :-)

 Just curious,

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: lyx-1.4.1 display fonts

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 24 June 2006 11:57, Subir Singh Lamba wrote:
 Hello,

   I have compiled and installed lyx-1.4.1. using xforms option on
 redhat9.0. Now the problem is symbols are not properly displayed in the
 lyx file while they appear properly in .ps or .pdf file. What do I need to
 do to overcome this problem ?

 Any help will be greatlty appreciated.

  According to your description you seem to be missing the latex-xft-fonts 
package.

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Unsorted#mathSymbolsNotShown

 Regards,

 Subir

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Numbered vs. Unnumbered Sectioning

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 23 June 2006 23:03, Rich Shepard wrote:
Why is it that numbered sectioning commands appear both in a
 ToC and on the fancy headers, but their unnumbered versions don't? I know
 this is a LaTeX action, but I'm wondering why it's this way.

  I guess that is by design. :-)
  The start sections are to be used when you want to give emphasis to some 
part of your document but do not want it to show in TOC.

  Notice that koma class of layouts as a style called addchap, addsect and 
addpart that act as start section but show in TOC.

I can see unnumbered sections in the frontmatter of a book or report,
 but to not have headers with the sectioning titles? And articles -- at
 least in the science fields in which I am most familiar -- have sections,
 but they're not numbered. Yet the running heads reflect the page's section.

  You can use Document-Settings-Numbering and TOC to control this.

  You can use sections (and derived) without a number. By default only 
paragraph and subparagraph (level 4 and 5) are not numbered. You can easily 
change that there. Try it. :-)

 Just curious,

 Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: lyx-1.4.1 display fonts

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 24 June 2006 11:57, Subir Singh Lamba wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   I have compiled and installed lyx-1.4.1. using xforms option on
> redhat9.0. Now the problem is symbols are not properly displayed in the
> lyx file while they appear properly in .ps or .pdf file. What do I need to
> do to overcome this problem ?
>
> Any help will be greatlty appreciated.

  According to your description you seem to be missing the latex-xft-fonts 
package.

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Unsorted#mathSymbolsNotShown

> Regards,
>
> Subir

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Numbered vs. Unnumbered Sectioning

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 23 June 2006 23:03, Rich Shepard wrote:
>Why is it that numbered sectioning commands appear both in a
> ToC and on the fancy headers, but their unnumbered versions don't? I know
> this is a LaTeX action, but I'm wondering why it's this way.

  I guess that is by design. :-)
  The start sections are to be used when you want to give emphasis to some 
part of your document but do not want it to show in TOC.

  Notice that koma class of layouts as a style called addchap, addsect and 
addpart that act as start section but show in TOC.

>I can see unnumbered sections in the frontmatter of a book or report,
> but to not have headers with the sectioning titles? And articles -- at
> least in the science fields in which I am most familiar -- have sections,
> but they're not numbered. Yet the running heads reflect the page's section.

  You can use Document->Settings->Numbering and TOC to control this.

  You can use sections (and derived) without a number. By default only 
paragraph and subparagraph (level 4 and 5) are not numbered. You can easily 
change that there. Try it. :-)

> Just curious,
>
> Rich

-- 
José Abílio

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote:
 The workaround to get svg-pdf conversion is to create an external template
 (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive).

  Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong?

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote:
 The workaround to get svg-pdf conversion is to create an external template
 (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive).

  Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong?

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: SVGs with alpha channel transparency

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:16, Georg Baum wrote:
> The workaround to get svg->pdf conversion is to create an external template
> (IIRC more detailed instructions are in the list archive).

  Georg I think that here you mean an external inset or am I wrong?

> Georg

-- 
José Abílio

Re: APA for LyX

[Jose' Matos]

On Monday 19 June 2006 12:02, Thomas Widhalm wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm asking on behalf of one of my users.

 I need to include the APA regulations for documents into LyX on a Fedora
 Core 5 box. I found several packages, but didn't manage to install it in
 an easy and quick way.

  I know Fedora and I can tell that it is not the problem here. ;-)
  I am using it. :-)

 Now I am asking you, if I just weren't able to find, how to include
 predefined packages for this, or if there are no such packages.

  I don't know APA. :-)

  Looking to the distributed sources I see that we ship an apa.layout file.
For this to work you need to place apa.cls in a place where tex can find it, 
then lyx will use it.

 The designated use of the Documents are thesis', so book might be the
 right DocumentClass.

  Notice again that I don't know what I am talking about. Looking in some 
detail to the apa layout we distribute it looks like it is article-like, so 
some changes may be needed to have it working for a thesis like structure.

 Just tell me, if I was searching in vain or if I haven't searched long
 enough. Any links appreciated. :-)

  You are close, if you notice the header of apa.layout file you will notice 
an email address there.

  If you still don't have you want this list is a good place for asking such 
questions.

 Regards,
 Thomas Widhalm

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 10:56, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Please add it to bugzilla, if not already done.

  Would that change the file format?

 Jürgen

PS: Wearing my hat of file format police. ;-)
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 11:28, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Jose' Matos wrote:
  Please add it to bugzilla, if not already done.
 
  Would that change the file format?

 Yes.

  I was afraid to hear that. You know the rules, this change can only go in 
1.5svn. :-(

  Jürgen
 
  PS: Wearing my hat of file format police. ;-)

 I see lots of policemen recently ;-)

  What would you expect with the World Cup in your country? ;-)

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 12:02, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 exactly. People are quite excited ATM (though I'm not living in one of
 the FIFA occupied cities). But do I have to tell that to a Portuguese?

  For us, two years ago - Euro 2004, it was UEFA. :-)

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: APA for LyX

[Jose' Matos]

On Monday 19 June 2006 12:02, Thomas Widhalm wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm asking on behalf of one of my users.

 I need to include the APA regulations for documents into LyX on a Fedora
 Core 5 box. I found several packages, but didn't manage to install it in
 an easy and quick way.

  I know Fedora and I can tell that it is not the problem here. ;-)
  I am using it. :-)

 Now I am asking you, if I just weren't able to find, how to include
 predefined packages for this, or if there are no such packages.

  I don't know APA. :-)

  Looking to the distributed sources I see that we ship an apa.layout file.
For this to work you need to place apa.cls in a place where tex can find it, 
then lyx will use it.

 The designated use of the Documents are thesis', so book might be the
 right DocumentClass.

  Notice again that I don't know what I am talking about. Looking in some 
detail to the apa layout we distribute it looks like it is article-like, so 
some changes may be needed to have it working for a thesis like structure.

 Just tell me, if I was searching in vain or if I haven't searched long
 enough. Any links appreciated. :-)

  You are close, if you notice the header of apa.layout file you will notice 
an email address there.

  If you still don't have you want this list is a good place for asking such 
questions.

 Regards,
 Thomas Widhalm

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 10:56, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Please add it to bugzilla, if not already done.

  Would that change the file format?

 Jürgen

PS: Wearing my hat of file format police. ;-)
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 11:28, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 Jose' Matos wrote:
  Please add it to bugzilla, if not already done.
 
  Would that change the file format?

 Yes.

  I was afraid to hear that. You know the rules, this change can only go in 
1.5svn. :-(

  Jürgen
 
  PS: Wearing my hat of file format police. ;-)

 I see lots of policemen recently ;-)

  What would you expect with the World Cup in your country? ;-)

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 12:02, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
 exactly. People are quite excited ATM (though I'm not living in one of
 the FIFA occupied cities). But do I have to tell that to a Portuguese?

  For us, two years ago - Euro 2004, it was UEFA. :-)

 Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: APA for LyX

[Jose' Matos]

On Monday 19 June 2006 12:02, Thomas Widhalm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm asking on behalf of one of my users.
>
> I need to include the APA regulations for documents into LyX on a Fedora
> Core 5 box. I found several packages, but didn't manage to install it in
> an easy and quick way.

  I know Fedora and I can tell that it is not the problem here. ;-)
  I am using it. :-)

> Now I am asking you, if I just weren't able to find, how to include
> predefined packages for this, or if there are no such packages.

  I don't know APA. :-)

  Looking to the distributed sources I see that we ship an apa.layout file.
For this to work you need to place apa.cls in a place where tex can find it, 
then lyx will use it.

> The designated use of the Documents are thesis', so book might be the
> right DocumentClass.

  Notice again that I don't know what I am talking about. Looking in some 
detail to the apa layout we distribute it looks like it is article-like, so 
some changes may be needed to have it working for a thesis like structure.

> Just tell me, if I was searching in vain or if I haven't searched long
> enough. Any links appreciated. :-)

  You are close, if you notice the header of apa.layout file you will notice 
an email address there.

  If you still don't have you want this list is a good place for asking such 
questions.

> Regards,
> Thomas Widhalm

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 10:56, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Please add it to bugzilla, if not already done.

  Would that change the file format?

> Jürgen

PS: Wearing my hat of file format police. ;-)
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 11:28, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Jose' Matos wrote:
> >> Please add it to bugzilla, if not already done.
> >
> > Would that change the file format?
>
> Yes.

  I was afraid to hear that. You know the rules, this change can only go in 
1.5svn. :-(

> >> Jürgen
> >
> > PS: Wearing my hat of file format police. ;-)
>
> I see lots of policemen recently ;-)

  What would you expect with the World Cup in your country? ;-)

> Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Confused about Lyx's goals -- isn't this supposed to increase productivity?

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 20 June 2006 12:02, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> exactly. People are quite excited ATM (though I'm not living in one of
> the "FIFA occupied cities"). But do I have to tell that to a Portuguese?

  For us, two years ago - Euro 2004, it was UEFA. :-)

> Jürgen

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 17 June 2006 11:15, Stefano Grioni wrote:
 Do you know which package does the math-preview? Because on arch they
 aren't packaged so I'd like to package on my own the right one .

 A subpackage of auctex:
http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/

 Thx

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 17 June 2006 11:15, Stefano Grioni wrote:
 Do you know which package does the math-preview? Because on arch they
 aren't packaged so I'd like to package on my own the right one .

 A subpackage of auctex:
http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/

 Thx

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 17 June 2006 11:15, Stefano Grioni wrote:
> Do you know which package does the math-preview? Because on arch they
> aren't packaged so I'd like to package on my own the right one .

 A subpackage of auctex:
http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/

> Thx

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not 
this be

\renewcommand{\maketitle}{%
?

  After all \maketitle is already defined.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Math functions

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 15 June 2006 18:31, José Marco de la Rosa wrote:
    Hi everybody, I just write because I can't make it to write functions
 which are not in the math function panel to my equations. I try with
 \function_name within the math mode but it fails to generate the dvi
 ¿anyone can help me?

  As far as I understand what you want is \mathrm{ this will create a box for 
roman text (normal text) inside math.

  With my binding  Alt+m m works as well (it does the same), notice that Alt 
is only pressed for the first m. The right binding is Meta+m m (but in my 
keyboard and most out there Meta is assigned to Alt).

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not 
this be

\renewcommand{\maketitle}{%
?

  After all \maketitle is already defined.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Math functions

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 15 June 2006 18:31, José Marco de la Rosa wrote:
    Hi everybody, I just write because I can't make it to write functions
 which are not in the math function panel to my equations. I try with
 \function_name within the math mode but it fails to generate the dvi
 ¿anyone can help me?

  As far as I understand what you want is \mathrm{ this will create a box for 
roman text (normal text) inside math.

  With my binding  Alt+m m works as well (it does the same), notice that Alt 
is only pressed for the first m. The right binding is Meta+m m (but in my 
keyboard and most out there Meta is assigned to Alt).

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not 
this be

\renewcommand{\maketitle}{%
?

  After all \maketitle is already defined.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Math functions

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 15 June 2006 18:31, José Marco de la Rosa wrote:
>    Hi everybody, I just write because I can't make it to write functions
> which are not in the math function panel to my equations. I try with
> \function_name within the math mode but it fails to generate the dvi
> ¿anyone can help me?

  As far as I understand what you want is \mathrm{ this will create a box for 
roman text (normal text) inside math.

  With my binding  Alt+m m works as well (it does the same), notice that Alt 
is only pressed for the first m. The right binding is Meta+m m (but in my 
keyboard and most out there Meta is assigned to Alt).

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Bibliography in LyX 1.4.1

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 16:49, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 When I opened in LyX 1.4.1 a document (standard article class)
 originally created in LyX 1.3.4 and inserted a new bibliography entry
 between the already existing fifth and sixth entries, the new entry
 was given the number 1, not number 6. Any thoughts? No BibTeX here.
 The entries were just typed one-by-one into in the bibliography
 environment.

  That is just for lyx, the printed version should be OK.

  Also next time you open this file the number will be correct. Note that the 
number that shows there is not used anywhere, so this buglet is harmless. :-)

  I am saying this by heart so I could (should? ;-) be wrong. :-)

 Bruce

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 18:47, Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi Matej,

 Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up
 a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???*

 I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I
 read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences
 on the use of the \let TeX primative.

  I have learned this trick using tips and tricks from Herbert Voß: 
http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=titlepage/titlepage

  This is linked in LyX front page. :-)

  I have used this to redefine the titlepage to follow my University's 
requirement.

 You've given me several suggestions like this, most of which are
 incorporated in the .layout files of my various books. Could you please
 tell me (and everyone else on this list) where you learned this, and how,
 and a little about your mental state and process when you learned this.

  At least for me LaTeX tips and tricks is always a nice place to start. :-)

 The lyx-users list has discussion after discussion about how to make a
 customized environment, command, or whatever. The typical response is use
 package whatever or you don't need that feature. If all of us learned
 what you know about LaTeX and TeX (\let is pure TeX from what I
 understand), we'd all be much happier LyX users if we could whip out a
 quick LaTeX solution to our formatting needs.

 Thanks so much

 SteveT

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 19:12, Steve Litt wrote:
 Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/?

  Yes.
  Since I am lazy I always go first to http://lyx.org and from there to 
Herbert's site. :-)

 SteveT

-- 
José Abílio

Re: create man/info pages using lyx?

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 00:37, Paul Elliott wrote:
 Does anyone have any examples of using lyx with sgmltools
 to create man pages and/or info pages?

  I should be honest, that was always on my list of things to do but I never 
got there. :-) (If you mean docbook, read below).

 Are there any examples out there?

  I assume that you mean docbook (sgmltools 3) because there is where all the 
work is going on. If you referring to linuxdoc (sgmltools 1) my advice is to 
use docbook, all the work has ended there long time ago (1999 IIRC).

  My plan is to discontinue lyx support for linuxdoc in 1.5 (the next planned 
stable release) just to stress this. Certainly the documents will not be lost 
and lyx2lyx will do the convertion to docbook, but it does not make sense to 
support it anymore.

 thank You.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Bibliography in LyX 1.4.1

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 16:49, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
 When I opened in LyX 1.4.1 a document (standard article class)
 originally created in LyX 1.3.4 and inserted a new bibliography entry
 between the already existing fifth and sixth entries, the new entry
 was given the number 1, not number 6. Any thoughts? No BibTeX here.
 The entries were just typed one-by-one into in the bibliography
 environment.

  That is just for lyx, the printed version should be OK.

  Also next time you open this file the number will be correct. Note that the 
number that shows there is not used anywhere, so this buglet is harmless. :-)

  I am saying this by heart so I could (should? ;-) be wrong. :-)

 Bruce

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 18:47, Steve Litt wrote:
 Hi Matej,

 Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up
 a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???*

 I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I
 read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences
 on the use of the \let TeX primative.

  I have learned this trick using tips and tricks from Herbert Voß: 
http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=titlepage/titlepage

  This is linked in LyX front page. :-)

  I have used this to redefine the titlepage to follow my University's 
requirement.

 You've given me several suggestions like this, most of which are
 incorporated in the .layout files of my various books. Could you please
 tell me (and everyone else on this list) where you learned this, and how,
 and a little about your mental state and process when you learned this.

  At least for me LaTeX tips and tricks is always a nice place to start. :-)

 The lyx-users list has discussion after discussion about how to make a
 customized environment, command, or whatever. The typical response is use
 package whatever or you don't need that feature. If all of us learned
 what you know about LaTeX and TeX (\let is pure TeX from what I
 understand), we'd all be much happier LyX users if we could whip out a
 quick LaTeX solution to our formatting needs.

 Thanks so much

 SteveT

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 19:12, Steve Litt wrote:
 Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/?

  Yes.
  Since I am lazy I always go first to http://lyx.org and from there to 
Herbert's site. :-)

 SteveT

-- 
José Abílio

Re: create man/info pages using lyx?

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 00:37, Paul Elliott wrote:
 Does anyone have any examples of using lyx with sgmltools
 to create man pages and/or info pages?

  I should be honest, that was always on my list of things to do but I never 
got there. :-) (If you mean docbook, read below).

 Are there any examples out there?

  I assume that you mean docbook (sgmltools 3) because there is where all the 
work is going on. If you referring to linuxdoc (sgmltools 1) my advice is to 
use docbook, all the work has ended there long time ago (1999 IIRC).

  My plan is to discontinue lyx support for linuxdoc in 1.5 (the next planned 
stable release) just to stress this. Certainly the documents will not be lost 
and lyx2lyx will do the convertion to docbook, but it does not make sense to 
support it anymore.

 thank You.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Bibliography in LyX 1.4.1

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 16:49, Bruce Pourciau wrote:
> When I opened in LyX 1.4.1 a document (standard article class)
> originally created in LyX 1.3.4 and inserted a new bibliography entry
> between the already existing fifth and sixth entries, the new entry
> was given the number 1, not number 6. Any thoughts? No BibTeX here.
> The entries were just typed one-by-one into in the bibliography
> environment.

  That is just for lyx, the printed version should be OK.

  Also next time you open this file the number will be correct. Note that the 
number that shows there is not used anywhere, so this buglet is harmless. :-)

  I am saying this by heart so I could (should? ;-) be wrong. :-)

> Bruce

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José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 18:47, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi Matej,
>
> Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up
> a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???*
>
> I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's "Guide to LaTeX", because I
> read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences
> on the use of the \let TeX primative.

  I have learned this trick using "tips and tricks" from Herbert Voß: 
http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=titlepage/titlepage

  This is linked in LyX front page. :-)

  I have used this to redefine the titlepage to follow my University's 
requirement.

> You've given me several suggestions like this, most of which are
> incorporated in the .layout files of my various books. Could you please
> tell me (and everyone else on this list) where you learned this, and how,
> and a little about your mental state and process when you learned this.

  At least for me "LaTeX tips and tricks" is always a nice place to start. :-)

> The lyx-users list has discussion after discussion about how to make a
> customized environment, command, or whatever. The typical response is "use
> package whatever" or "you don't need that feature". If all of us learned
> what you know about LaTeX and TeX (\let is pure TeX from what I
> understand), we'd all be much happier LyX users if we could whip out a
> quick LaTeX solution to our formatting needs.
>
> Thanks so much
>
> SteveT

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José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 19:12, Steve Litt wrote:
> Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/?

  Yes.
  Since I am lazy I always go first to http://lyx.org and from there to 
Herbert's site. :-)

> SteveT

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José Abílio

Re: create man/info pages using lyx?

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 00:37, Paul Elliott wrote:
> Does anyone have any examples of using lyx with sgmltools
> to create man pages and/or info pages?

  I should be honest, that was always on my list of things to do but I never 
got there. :-) (If you mean docbook, read below).

> Are there any examples out there?

  I assume that you mean docbook (sgmltools 3) because there is where all the 
work is going on. If you referring to linuxdoc (sgmltools 1) my advice is to 
use docbook, all the work has ended there long time ago (1999 IIRC).

  My plan is to discontinue lyx support for linuxdoc in 1.5 (the next planned 
stable release) just to stress this. Certainly the documents will not be lost 
and lyx2lyx will do the convertion to docbook, but it does not make sense to 
support it anymore.

> thank You.

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José Abílio

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 10 June 2006 00:34, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Is Instant Preview working at all in LyX 1.4.1?

  Yes.

 I upgraded from 1.3.7 to 1.4.1 on my Fedora 5 box and mathematical
 expression are not rendered with Instant Preview.  Then, I removed 1.4.1
 and installed 1.3.7 back and it worked again...

  How did you install the different components? I am running FC-5 and 
everything works as expected.
$ rpm -q --requires lyx
...
ghostscript
htmlview
lyx-frontend = 1.4.1
mathml-fonts
tetex-dvipost
tetex-dvips
tetex-fonts
tetex-fonts
tetex-latex
tetex-preview

  I have these packages installed, so it works...

 Rudi Gaelzer

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José Abílio

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 10 June 2006 00:34, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Is Instant Preview working at all in LyX 1.4.1?

  Yes.

 I upgraded from 1.3.7 to 1.4.1 on my Fedora 5 box and mathematical
 expression are not rendered with Instant Preview.  Then, I removed 1.4.1
 and installed 1.3.7 back and it worked again...

  How did you install the different components? I am running FC-5 and 
everything works as expected.
$ rpm -q --requires lyx
...
ghostscript
htmlview
lyx-frontend = 1.4.1
mathml-fonts
tetex-dvipost
tetex-dvips
tetex-fonts
tetex-fonts
tetex-latex
tetex-preview

  I have these packages installed, so it works...

 Rudi Gaelzer

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José Abílio

Re: Instant Preview working in LyX 1.4.1?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 10 June 2006 00:34, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
> Is Instant Preview working at all in LyX 1.4.1?

  Yes.

> I upgraded from 1.3.7 to 1.4.1 on my Fedora 5 box and mathematical
> expression are not rendered with Instant Preview.  Then, I removed 1.4.1
> and installed 1.3.7 back and it worked again...

  How did you install the different components? I am running FC-5 and 
everything works as expected.
$ rpm -q --requires lyx
...
ghostscript
htmlview
lyx-frontend = 1.4.1
mathml-fonts
tetex-dvipost
tetex-dvips
tetex-fonts
tetex-fonts
tetex-latex
tetex-preview

  I have these packages installed, so it works...

> Rudi Gaelzer

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José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 02:04, Stephen Harris wrote:
 Jose' Matos wrote:
 
Things have improved a lot meanwhile. It is on my plans to have a ready
  to go system for fedora as, I am sure, there are for other linux
  distributions.

 You know best! Is there an objective method used in determining
 if Gnome or KDE, Nedit or LyX, goes into the primary distribution
 while the other contender is placed into extras? I was thinking if
 statistics were kept on yum install foo downloads (not who did it)
 that the frequency of download would be an objective measure. Maybe
 that would only work if both similar programs started in extras.

  It is not easy to explain, some of the reasons are historical, and the 
border between Core and Extras is becoming blurred (and this is good). The 
goal for upcoming versions is for the Extras to be included in the 
installation process. That will mean a support for installing either from the 
network or from supplementary cd's or dvd's.

  Things are improving a lot and I like the way it is coming. :-)

 I gave the Chris Karakas instructions a try, but it became hard
 to obtain the packages or the right versions, maybe that was on
 Cygwin; it was harder than following Michael Gertz instuctions!

  I intend to look his document after July (I am really busy now), I have 
several ideas how things can improve regarding lyx and docbook.

 I think yum or other programs like it, is the single best reason
 to use Linux rather than Windows. I can remember if you wanted to
 install a new program which would take 10 minutes, finding and
 installing all the dependencies could take an hour, even if they
 were listed beforehand and I don't think they were always listed.
 Maybe I should have used the word default rather than primary.

  :-)

 My final question. I was reading about fontconfig because of
 installing the Bakoma fonts which are in zip format into Cygwin.
 (This is something easy to do in Windows, install fonts.)
 I read there is a dependency to freetype. The freetype page
 mentions there is a new May31,06 version of KDE which doesn't
 have security problems because it uses fontconfig without
 freetype. Also it mentions an rpm freetype patch package suitable
 for using with Cygwin's rpm package. So does yum or rpm, when it
 installs fonts, write to those associated .conf files (fc-cache)?

  No idea. :-(

 Best regards,

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 02:29, David Neeley wrote:
 There are a number of package/installation systems in Linux--perhaps
 as we get true Linux Standard Base-compliant we can settle those down
 a great deal! I have also heard good things about yum (making up for
 some of the rpm deficiencies); yast keeps getting better; of course
 Debian led the way with apt/dpkg; and others such as portage are also
 supposed to be excellent.

  I am sorry for the out of topic here.

  Note that it is unfair to compare rpm with apt/dpkg. Actually I used to 
manage rpms with apt.

  Referring only to debian and fedora here as the same applies to other 
distributions we are dealing on three levels here:

  package - rpm or deb
  package manager - yum or apt
  distribution- fedora or debian

  We need to distribution level to define common policies that make it easy to 
interoperate between different packages. That is what is taking time to 
define in Extras and it succeeded so that now Core is following the policies 
established in Extras.

  What people refer as the rpm hell was the absence of a policy so that 
packages could interoperate. It is not enough to have a tongue, we need to 
speak the same language so that communication happens. ;-)

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 02:04, Stephen Harris wrote:
 Jose' Matos wrote:
 
Things have improved a lot meanwhile. It is on my plans to have a ready
  to go system for fedora as, I am sure, there are for other linux
  distributions.

 You know best! Is there an objective method used in determining
 if Gnome or KDE, Nedit or LyX, goes into the primary distribution
 while the other contender is placed into extras? I was thinking if
 statistics were kept on yum install foo downloads (not who did it)
 that the frequency of download would be an objective measure. Maybe
 that would only work if both similar programs started in extras.

  It is not easy to explain, some of the reasons are historical, and the 
border between Core and Extras is becoming blurred (and this is good). The 
goal for upcoming versions is for the Extras to be included in the 
installation process. That will mean a support for installing either from the 
network or from supplementary cd's or dvd's.

  Things are improving a lot and I like the way it is coming. :-)

 I gave the Chris Karakas instructions a try, but it became hard
 to obtain the packages or the right versions, maybe that was on
 Cygwin; it was harder than following Michael Gertz instuctions!

  I intend to look his document after July (I am really busy now), I have 
several ideas how things can improve regarding lyx and docbook.

 I think yum or other programs like it, is the single best reason
 to use Linux rather than Windows. I can remember if you wanted to
 install a new program which would take 10 minutes, finding and
 installing all the dependencies could take an hour, even if they
 were listed beforehand and I don't think they were always listed.
 Maybe I should have used the word default rather than primary.

  :-)

 My final question. I was reading about fontconfig because of
 installing the Bakoma fonts which are in zip format into Cygwin.
 (This is something easy to do in Windows, install fonts.)
 I read there is a dependency to freetype. The freetype page
 mentions there is a new May31,06 version of KDE which doesn't
 have security problems because it uses fontconfig without
 freetype. Also it mentions an rpm freetype patch package suitable
 for using with Cygwin's rpm package. So does yum or rpm, when it
 installs fonts, write to those associated .conf files (fc-cache)?

  No idea. :-(

 Best regards,

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 02:29, David Neeley wrote:
 There are a number of package/installation systems in Linux--perhaps
 as we get true Linux Standard Base-compliant we can settle those down
 a great deal! I have also heard good things about yum (making up for
 some of the rpm deficiencies); yast keeps getting better; of course
 Debian led the way with apt/dpkg; and others such as portage are also
 supposed to be excellent.

  I am sorry for the out of topic here.

  Note that it is unfair to compare rpm with apt/dpkg. Actually I used to 
manage rpms with apt.

  Referring only to debian and fedora here as the same applies to other 
distributions we are dealing on three levels here:

  package - rpm or deb
  package manager - yum or apt
  distribution- fedora or debian

  We need to distribution level to define common policies that make it easy to 
interoperate between different packages. That is what is taking time to 
define in Extras and it succeeded so that now Core is following the policies 
established in Extras.

  What people refer as the rpm hell was the absence of a policy so that 
packages could interoperate. It is not enough to have a tongue, we need to 
speak the same language so that communication happens. ;-)

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 02:04, Stephen Harris wrote:
> Jose' Matos wrote:
> >
> >   Things have improved a lot meanwhile. It is on my plans to have a ready
> > to go system for fedora as, I am sure, there are for other linux
> > distributions.
>
> You know best! Is there an objective method used in determining
> if Gnome or KDE, Nedit or LyX, goes into the primary distribution
> while the other contender is placed into extras? I was thinking if
> statistics were kept on "yum install foo" downloads (not who did it)
> that the frequency of download would be an objective measure. Maybe
> that would only work if both similar programs started in extras.

  It is not easy to explain, some of the reasons are historical, and the 
border between Core and Extras is becoming blurred (and this is good). The 
goal for upcoming versions is for the Extras to be included in the 
installation process. That will mean a support for installing either from the 
network or from supplementary cd's or dvd's.

  Things are improving a lot and I like the way it is coming. :-)

> I gave the Chris Karakas instructions a try, but it became hard
> to obtain the packages or the right versions, maybe that was on
> Cygwin; it was harder than following Michael Gertz instuctions!

  I intend to look his document after July (I am really busy now), I have 
several ideas how things can improve regarding lyx and docbook.

> I think yum or other programs like it, is the single best reason
> to use Linux rather than Windows. I can remember if you wanted to
> install a new program which would take 10 minutes, finding and
> installing all the dependencies could take an hour, even if they
> were listed beforehand and I don't think they were always listed.
> Maybe I should have used the word default rather than primary.

  :-)

> My final question. I was reading about fontconfig because of
> installing the Bakoma fonts which are in zip format into Cygwin.
> (This is something easy to do in Windows, install fonts.)
> I read there is a dependency to freetype. The freetype page
> mentions there is a new May31,06 version of KDE which doesn't
> have security problems because it uses fontconfig without
> freetype. Also it mentions an rpm freetype patch package suitable
> for using with Cygwin's rpm package. So does yum or rpm, when it
> installs fonts, write to those associated .conf files (fc-cache)?

  No idea. :-(

> Best regards,

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Wednesday 07 June 2006 02:29, David Neeley wrote:
> There are a number of package/installation systems in Linux--perhaps
> as we get true Linux Standard Base-compliant we can settle those down
> a great deal! I have also heard good things about yum (making up for
> some of the rpm deficiencies); yast keeps getting better; of course
> Debian led the way with apt/dpkg; and others such as portage are also
> supposed to be excellent.

  I am sorry for the out of topic here.

  Note that it is unfair to compare rpm with apt/dpkg. Actually I used to 
manage rpms with apt.

  Referring only to debian and fedora here as the same applies to other 
distributions we are dealing on three levels here:

  package - rpm or deb
  package manager - yum or apt
  distribution- fedora or debian

  We need to distribution level to define common policies that make it easy to 
interoperate between different packages. That is what is taking time to 
define in Extras and it succeeded so that now Core is following the policies 
established in Extras.

  What people refer as the "rpm hell" was the absence of a policy so that 
packages could interoperate. It is not enough to have a tongue, we need to 
speak the same language so that communication happens. ;-)

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:52, Stephen Harris wrote:
 SH: The Docbook topic comes up occasionally. Chris Karakas
 has done quite a bit of work producing with LyX, SGML, and
 Latex. http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ There is quite
 a bit involved to get all the packages working together IMO.

  Things have improved a lot meanwhile. It is on my plans to have a ready to 
go system for fedora as, I am sure, there are for other linux distributions.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:52, Stephen Harris wrote:
 SH: The Docbook topic comes up occasionally. Chris Karakas
 has done quite a bit of work producing with LyX, SGML, and
 Latex. http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ There is quite
 a bit involved to get all the packages working together IMO.

  Things have improved a lot meanwhile. It is on my plans to have a ready to 
go system for fedora as, I am sure, there are for other linux distributions.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Installing LyX 1.3.7 on Windows 98 - DITA detour

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:52, Stephen Harris wrote:
> SH: The Docbook topic comes up occasionally. Chris Karakas
> has done quite a bit of work producing with LyX, SGML, and
> Latex. http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ There is quite
> a bit involved to get all the packages working together IMO.

  Things have improved a lot meanwhile. It is on my plans to have a ready to 
go system for fedora as, I am sure, there are for other linux distributions.

-- 
José Abílio

Re: Table Numbering

[Jose' Matos]

On Tuesday 30 May 2006 16:16, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
    I suspect that you using a longtable inside a float. I may be wrong (it
  happens ;-) but it produces the same behaviour that are seeing. :-)

  Did I wrote that?! :-)
  I had very few time to answer and this is result. :-)

 Well, it didn't happen this time.  ;-)  You're right, the first table is
 flagged longtable (although in the test document, at least, it's not all
 that long).  Is this a known LaTeX problem?  Or is it correct behavior
 (as defined by longtable)?

  It is like that by definition. :-)

  A longtable can not be inserted inside a float:
http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=table/longtable

  This is from Tips and Tricks.

 /Paul

-- 
José Abílio