Writing a Novel with LyX?

2003-03-18 Thread Peter Hutnick
So, the FAQ says happy stuff about people writing novels with LyX.

Can anyone recommend a LaTeX class for novels?  None of the stuff that
came with my copy (included with RedHat 8.0) seems very appropriate.

Since I am a (La)TeX neophyte it would be nice if there was a
corresponding LyX  layout file.  I'd rather work on my story than work on
the LyX underpinnings ;-)

The sort of thing I am looking for is a title page, a novel-style (i.e.
flat) table of contents, and a hierarchy like:

Book
   Part
  Chapter
 Section (where a section would normally be separated by ***.)

I've looked in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ which, as
far as I can tell, is the correct place.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

-Peter




Re: Writing a Novel with LyX?

2003-03-18 Thread Peter Hutnick
Rich Shepard said:
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Peter Hutnick wrote:

 The sort of thing I am looking for is a title page, a novel-style
 (i.e. flat) table of contents, and a hierarchy like:

 Book
Part
   Chapter
  Section (where a section would normally be separated by
 ***.)

 Peter,

   There should be a book class already there for you to use. When you
 select
 the Layout menu item, do you see a Document tab? The top-most widget
 on that tab should be Class with the default of article. Click on
 the down arrow and you should see all the classes from which you can
 select.

   I've used the book class without any problems.

Thanks for the lightning fast reply . . .

. . . but ;-)

Please re-read my post.  I have used the book class quite a bit myself. 
It is great for technical books, but it is totally inappropriate for a
novel in my estimation.

I tried using it, but I spent a lot of time fudging it around just to get
mediocre results.  Without a more appropriate class I feel I'd be better
off using a word processor.

-Peter




Writing a Novel with LyX?

2003-03-18 Thread Peter Hutnick
So, the FAQ says happy stuff about people writing novels with LyX.

Can anyone recommend a LaTeX class for novels?  None of the stuff that
came with my copy (included with RedHat 8.0) seems very appropriate.

Since I am a (La)TeX neophyte it would be nice if there was a
corresponding LyX  layout file.  I'd rather work on my story than work on
the LyX underpinnings ;-)

The sort of thing I am looking for is a title page, a novel-style (i.e.
flat) table of contents, and a hierarchy like:

Book
   Part
  Chapter
 Section (where a section would normally be separated by ***.)

I've looked in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ which, as
far as I can tell, is the correct place.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

-Peter




Re: Writing a Novel with LyX?

2003-03-18 Thread Peter Hutnick
Rich Shepard said:
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Peter Hutnick wrote:

 The sort of thing I am looking for is a title page, a novel-style
 (i.e. flat) table of contents, and a hierarchy like:

 Book
Part
   Chapter
  Section (where a section would normally be separated by
 ***.)

 Peter,

   There should be a book class already there for you to use. When you
 select
 the Layout menu item, do you see a Document tab? The top-most widget
 on that tab should be Class with the default of article. Click on
 the down arrow and you should see all the classes from which you can
 select.

   I've used the book class without any problems.

Thanks for the lightning fast reply . . .

. . . but ;-)

Please re-read my post.  I have used the book class quite a bit myself. 
It is great for technical books, but it is totally inappropriate for a
novel in my estimation.

I tried using it, but I spent a lot of time fudging it around just to get
mediocre results.  Without a more appropriate class I feel I'd be better
off using a word processor.

-Peter




Writing a Novel with LyX?

2003-03-18 Thread Peter Hutnick
So, the FAQ says happy stuff about people writing novels with LyX.

Can anyone recommend a LaTeX class for novels?  None of the stuff that
came with my copy (included with RedHat 8.0) seems very appropriate.

Since I am a (La)TeX neophyte it would be nice if there was a
corresponding LyX  layout file.  I'd rather work on my story than work on
the LyX underpinnings ;-)

The sort of thing I am looking for is a title page, a novel-style (i.e.
flat) table of contents, and a hierarchy like:

Book
   Part
  Chapter
 Section (where a section would normally be separated by "***".)

I've looked in
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ which, as
far as I can tell, is the "correct" place.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

-Peter




Re: Writing a Novel with LyX?

2003-03-18 Thread Peter Hutnick
Rich Shepard said:
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Peter Hutnick wrote:
>
>> The sort of thing I am looking for is a title page, a novel-style
>> (i.e. flat) table of contents, and a hierarchy like:
>>
>> Book
>>Part
>>   Chapter
>>  Section (where a section would normally be separated by
>> "***".)
>
> Peter,
>
>   There should be a book class already there for you to use. When you
> select
> the "Layout" menu item, do you see a "Document" tab? The top-most widget
> on that tab should be "Class" with the default of "article". Click on
> the down arrow and you should see all the classes from which you can
> select.
>
>   I've used the book class without any problems.

Thanks for the lightning fast reply . . .

. . . but ;-)

Please re-read my post.  I have used the "book" class quite a bit myself. 
It is great for technical books, but it is totally inappropriate for a
novel in my estimation.

I tried using it, but I spent a lot of time fudging it around just to get
mediocre results.  Without a more appropriate class I feel I'd be better
off using a word processor.

-Peter




Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
I'd like to be able to include (like in the C preprocessor sense) some
external flat text files in my LyX document.

I have the following requirements:

1. Whitespace must be preserved.
2. The file must be read live when the .lyx is built into another type
of file (i.e. PDF)
3. The font should be different (i.e. roman for normal text, currier for
the included text).
4. Bonus: extra-double-good if it can read the file from a URL (probably
FTP since whitespace gets weird with HTML).

Anyone have a silver bullet for this?

-Peter





Re: Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Dekel Tsur said:
 On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:12:00PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Peter 4. Bonus: extra-double-good if it can read the file from a URL
 Peter (probably FTP since whitespace gets weird with HTML).

 This is more difficult.

 It is possible, in two ways:
 1. Using the external inset
 2. \write18{wget -r url} in latex mode, and changing the latex-dvi
 converter to be latex -shell-escape $$i.

 However, the latter is a security risk,

How so?

 and both methods will make
 updating the DVI very slow.
 The preferred option is probably to write a script that updates the
 necessary  files (the script can gather the URLs from the .lyx file).

Hmm.  Maybe I need to wrap the whole deal in a Makefile . . . rsync as a
dependency to build a book . . .

-Peter





Re: Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes said:
 Peter == Peter Hutnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Peter I'd like to be able to include (like in the C preprocessor
 Peter sense) some external flat text files in my LyX document.

 Peter I have the following requirements:

 Peter 1. Whitespace must be preserved. 2. The file must be read
 Peter live when the .lyx is built into another type of file (i.e.
 Peter PDF) 3. The font should be different (i.e. roman for normal
 Peter text, currier for the included text).

 InsertInclude fileverbatim shold fulfill these requirements.

Nope.  That whacked out my whitespace (tabs in particular).

I tried adding the don't typeset option.  No luck.

-Peter





Re: printing LyX screen?

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Nirmal Govind said:

 Is there a way in which I can print out my slides in exactly the way
 they look in the LyX window?

Have you tried copying the contents of the window and pasting them in a
text editor or word processor?

-Peter





Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
I'd like to be able to include (like in the C preprocessor sense) some
external flat text files in my LyX document.

I have the following requirements:

1. Whitespace must be preserved.
2. The file must be read live when the .lyx is built into another type
of file (i.e. PDF)
3. The font should be different (i.e. roman for normal text, currier for
the included text).
4. Bonus: extra-double-good if it can read the file from a URL (probably
FTP since whitespace gets weird with HTML).

Anyone have a silver bullet for this?

-Peter





Re: Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Dekel Tsur said:
 On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:12:00PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Peter 4. Bonus: extra-double-good if it can read the file from a URL
 Peter (probably FTP since whitespace gets weird with HTML).

 This is more difficult.

 It is possible, in two ways:
 1. Using the external inset
 2. \write18{wget -r url} in latex mode, and changing the latex-dvi
 converter to be latex -shell-escape $$i.

 However, the latter is a security risk,

How so?

 and both methods will make
 updating the DVI very slow.
 The preferred option is probably to write a script that updates the
 necessary  files (the script can gather the URLs from the .lyx file).

Hmm.  Maybe I need to wrap the whole deal in a Makefile . . . rsync as a
dependency to build a book . . .

-Peter





Re: Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes said:
 Peter == Peter Hutnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Peter I'd like to be able to include (like in the C preprocessor
 Peter sense) some external flat text files in my LyX document.

 Peter I have the following requirements:

 Peter 1. Whitespace must be preserved. 2. The file must be read
 Peter live when the .lyx is built into another type of file (i.e.
 Peter PDF) 3. The font should be different (i.e. roman for normal
 Peter text, currier for the included text).

 InsertInclude fileverbatim shold fulfill these requirements.

Nope.  That whacked out my whitespace (tabs in particular).

I tried adding the don't typeset option.  No luck.

-Peter





Re: printing LyX screen?

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Nirmal Govind said:

 Is there a way in which I can print out my slides in exactly the way
 they look in the LyX window?

Have you tried copying the contents of the window and pasting them in a
text editor or word processor?

-Peter





Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
I'd like to be able to "include" (like in the C preprocessor sense) some
external flat text files in my LyX document.

I have the following requirements:

1. Whitespace must be preserved.
2. The file must be read "live" when the .lyx is built into another type
of file (i.e. PDF)
3. The font should be different (i.e. roman for normal text, currier for
the "included" text).
4. Bonus: extra-double-good if it can read the file from a URL (probably
FTP since whitespace gets weird with HTML).

Anyone have a silver bullet for this?

-Peter





Re: Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Dekel Tsur said:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:12:00PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> Peter> 4. Bonus: extra-double-good if it can read the file from a URL
>> Peter> (probably FTP since whitespace gets weird with HTML).
>>
>> This is more difficult.
>
> It is possible, in two ways:
> 1. Using the external inset
> 2. \write18{wget -r } in latex mode, and changing the latex->dvi
> converter to be "latex -shell-escape $$i".
>
> However, the latter is a security risk,

How so?

> and both methods will make
> updating the DVI very slow.
> The preferred option is probably to write a script that updates the
> necessary  files (the script can gather the URLs from the .lyx file).

Hmm.  Maybe I need to wrap the whole deal in a Makefile . . . rsync as a
dependency to "build" a book . . .

-Peter





Re: Including external files

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes said:
>>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Hutnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Peter> I'd like to be able to "include" (like in the C preprocessor
> Peter> sense) some external flat text files in my LyX document.
>
> Peter> I have the following requirements:
>
> Peter> 1. Whitespace must be preserved. 2. The file must be read
> Peter> "live" when the .lyx is built into another type of file (i.e.
> Peter> PDF) 3. The font should be different (i.e. roman for normal
> Peter> text, currier for the "included" text).
>
> Insert>Include file>verbatim shold fulfill these requirements.

Nope.  That whacked out my whitespace (tabs in particular).

I tried adding the "don't typeset" option.  No luck.

-Peter





Re: printing LyX screen?

2002-12-11 Thread Peter Hutnick
Nirmal Govind said:

> Is there a way in which I can print out my slides in exactly the way
> they look in the LyX window?

Have you tried copying the contents of the window and pasting them in a
text editor or word processor?

-Peter