RE: Lyx to Latex to Lyx

[Steve Thompson]

If you used Lyx to create the LaTeX file, then you already have the helper
file to that would be needed to work with the LaTeX. It is just the
filename.lyx file that created it in the first place. For my own work, I
do this all the time. Create a document with Lyx, and send it to a journal
as the .tex file with the figure files also attached. 

 

Going the other way just doesn't work. I can't imagine an automated routine
that would look at an arbitrary .tex file and figure out what set of
.layout,  and template files that could be used to create it again. OTOH,
maybe I just don't have sufficient imagination.

 

 

 

From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org [mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org] On Behalf Of
Hal Kierstead
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:54 PM
To: Mike Reeks mike.re...@newcastle.ac.uk
Cc: Lyx-users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Lyx to Latex to Lyx

 

 

On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Mike Reeks mike.re...@newcastle.ac.uk
mailto:mike.re...@newcastle.ac.uk  wrote:

 

Dear Lyx Users 

I have written a very large article in Lyx for publication in a scientific
journal  which will only accept the article as a latex file. Of course Lyx
will generate a Latex file as well as a pdf file.  I wanted to check that
the Latex file is acceptable to Lyx. Unfortunately I get an  error window
Lyx insetP  saying 'Unknown parameter name'. So what does that mean? Can
anyone help. Most grateful. Does that mean I will encounter problems using
the latex to produce pdf files direct. It would seem odd that Lyx wont read
the latex file it produces!

Regards

Mike Reeks

 

I have used LyX for a long time, and really like it, but I think this is its
biggest weakness.  I also think this is a major obstacle to its wider
adoption.  When I collaborate with somebody who does not use LyX I am forced
to use LaTex, rather than to be able to show off how easy LyX is to use.  I
understand that it maybe very difficult convert an arbitrary LaTex file LyX,
but it should be routine to convert a LaTex file constructed by LyX, perhaps
by producing an extra helper file during the first conversion.

 

Hal

 

RE: Lyx to Latex to Lyx

[Steve Thompson]

Hal,

I think I did understand. You want your collaborator to be able to make 
arbitrary changes to the .tex file, then have tex2lyx figure out how to create 
a new .lyx file. But your collaborator could have done anything. That makes the 
“modified” file no different from any other completely arbitrary new input 
file. 

Steve

 

 

 

Steve -

 

I do not think you understood me.  Suppose a create a LyX file and use it to 
generate a tex file.  I send it to my coauthor who does not use LyX.  He makes 
modifications to the LaTex file without changing the front material, and sends 
me his Tex file.  I should be able to use tex2lyx to make a revised version  of 
my LyX file.  But this requires many corrections by hand.

 

Hal

RE: Lyx to Latex to Lyx

[Steve Thompson]

If you used Lyx to create the LaTeX file, then you already have the "helper
file" to that would be needed to work with the LaTeX. It is just the
.lyx file that created it in the first place. For my own work, I
do this all the time. Create a document with Lyx, and send it to a journal
as the .tex file with the figure files also attached. 

 

Going the other way just doesn't work. I can't imagine an automated routine
that would look at an arbitrary .tex file and figure out what set of
.layout,  and template files that could be used to create it again. OTOH,
maybe I just don't have sufficient imagination.

 

 

 

From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org [mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org] On Behalf Of
Hal Kierstead
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:54 PM
To: Mike Reeks 
Cc: Lyx-users 
Subject: Re: Lyx to Latex to Lyx

 

 

On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Mike Reeks  > wrote:

 

Dear Lyx Users 

I have written a very large article in Lyx for publication in a scientific
journal  which will only accept the article as a latex file. Of course Lyx
will generate a Latex file as well as a pdf file.  I wanted to check that
the Latex file is acceptable to Lyx. Unfortunately I get an  error window
Lyx insetP  saying 'Unknown parameter name'. So what does that mean? Can
anyone help. Most grateful. Does that mean I will encounter problems using
the latex to produce pdf files direct. It would seem odd that Lyx wont read
the latex file it produces!

Regards

Mike Reeks

 

I have used LyX for a long time, and really like it, but I think this is its
biggest weakness.  I also think this is a major obstacle to its wider
adoption.  When I collaborate with somebody who does not use LyX I am forced
to use LaTex, rather than to be able to show off how easy LyX is to use.  I
understand that it maybe very difficult convert an arbitrary LaTex file LyX,
but it should be routine to convert a LaTex file constructed by LyX, perhaps
by producing an extra helper file during the first conversion.

 

Hal

 

RE: Lyx to Latex to Lyx

[Steve Thompson]

Hal,

I think I did understand. You want your collaborator to be able to make 
arbitrary changes to the .tex file, then have tex2lyx figure out how to create 
a new .lyx file. But your collaborator could have done anything. That makes the 
“modified” file no different from any other completely arbitrary new input 
file. 

Steve

 

 

 

Steve -

 

I do not think you understood me.  Suppose a create a LyX file and use it to 
generate a tex file.  I send it to my coauthor who does not use LyX.  He makes 
modifications to the LaTex file without changing the front material, and sends 
me his Tex file.  I should be able to use tex2lyx to make a revised version  of 
my LyX file.  But this requires many corrections by hand.

 

Hal

RE: Cannot Export Lyx to latex on Mac

[Steve Thompson]

Thanks for the hint on running from a command window to see more useful
error messages. As it turned out, my problem existed only with a nonstandard
class/layout combination. The reported error was that tex2lyx could not find
the .layout file. The reason was that the layout file and the class file had
different names (jasatex.cls and jasa.layout). The layout file contains the
class file name, but not vice versa, so tex2lyx didn't know where to find
the layout.

The problem was fixed by renaming the layout file to jasatex.layout; i.e.
fixing the original operator error.

Thanks again,
Steve 

-Original Message-
From: RIchard Heck [mailto:rgh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:11 PM
To: Stephen Thompson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Cannot Export Lyx to latex on Mac

On 05/24/2010 08:15 PM, Stephen Thompson wrote:
 I am also a new user -- and have the same issue. I have not been able to
convert in either direction between LyX and LaTeX. How ever I am able to
View-View Source. What appears seems to be pure LaTeX.


So there is a problem with the copying of the file from the temporary 
directory, probably. Please run LyX from a terminal and report any error 
messages. If there aren't any, try running LyX as:
 lyx -dbg files
and, if that doens't work:
 lyx -dbg any
The latter will dump a lot of info. We're only interested in what 
happens at export time.

Richard

RE: Cannot Export Lyx to latex on Mac

[Steve Thompson]

Thanks for the hint on running from a command window to see more useful
error messages. As it turned out, my problem existed only with a nonstandard
class/layout combination. The reported error was that tex2lyx could not find
the .layout file. The reason was that the layout file and the class file had
different names (jasatex.cls and jasa.layout). The layout file contains the
class file name, but not vice versa, so tex2lyx didn't know where to find
the layout.

The problem was fixed by renaming the layout file to jasatex.layout; i.e.
fixing the original operator error.

Thanks again,
Steve 

-Original Message-
From: RIchard Heck [mailto:rgh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:11 PM
To: Stephen Thompson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Cannot Export Lyx to latex on Mac

On 05/24/2010 08:15 PM, Stephen Thompson wrote:
 I am also a new user -- and have the same issue. I have not been able to
convert in either direction between LyX and LaTeX. How ever I am able to
View-View Source. What appears seems to be pure LaTeX.


So there is a problem with the copying of the file from the temporary 
directory, probably. Please run LyX from a terminal and report any error 
messages. If there aren't any, try running LyX as:
 lyx -dbg files
and, if that doens't work:
 lyx -dbg any
The latter will dump a lot of info. We're only interested in what 
happens at export time.

Richard

RE: Cannot Export Lyx to latex on Mac

[Steve Thompson]

Thanks for the hint on running from a command window to see more useful
error messages. As it turned out, my problem existed only with a nonstandard
class/layout combination. The reported error was that tex2lyx could not find
the .layout file. The reason was that the layout file and the class file had
different names (jasatex.cls and jasa.layout). The layout file contains the
class file name, but not vice versa, so tex2lyx didn't know where to find
the layout.

The problem was fixed by renaming the layout file to jasatex.layout; i.e.
fixing the original operator error.

Thanks again,
Steve 

-Original Message-
From: RIchard Heck [mailto:rgh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:11 PM
To: Stephen Thompson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Cannot Export Lyx to latex on Mac

On 05/24/2010 08:15 PM, Stephen Thompson wrote:
> I am also a new user -- and have the same issue. I have not been able to
convert in either direction between LyX and LaTeX. How ever I am able to
View->View Source. What appears seems to be pure LaTeX.
>
>
So there is a problem with the copying of the file from the temporary 
directory, probably. Please run LyX from a terminal and report any error 
messages. If there aren't any, try running LyX as:
 lyx -dbg files
and, if that doens't work:
 lyx -dbg any
The latter will dump a lot of info. We're only interested in what 
happens at export time.

Richard