Re: +/- in a table too large
What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. 2008/5/21 Les Denham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:36:01 pm Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances I can see exactly what you are talking about. The +/- symbol appears too large. But only if you use Latin Modern fonts. I tried every other font I have in LaTeX, and the problem seems to be exclusive to the LMSymbol Type 1 font, which I assume is what is used for Math symbols when you use Latin Modern fonts for text. Whether it is a problem with LyX, with LaTeX, or with the font, I can't tell. You can fiddle with the line spacing in the table (I don't remember exactly how), but it seems to me the simplest solution would be to use another font. I'm using 1.5.4 with texlive on Gentoo 2007. Les -- Manveru jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: +/- in a table too large
On 21.05.08, Manveru wrote: What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. To me it looks rather like a font substitution -- some font missing in some disttributions or older versions. Wolfgang, did you look in the latex log file for font substitution warnings? (Exporting your example to latex and converting by hand might make it easier to spot problems, at least if you have some familiarity with LaTeX.) The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. My Debian/testing version of TeXLive works fine, the \pm is the same size as the numbers. Actually, it might be you just have to install additional parts/packages of the distro or an actual version. Günter
Re: +/- in a table too large
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: +/- in a table too large Date: Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 08:15 From: Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 20:52 schrieben Sie: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Compiles just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I've attached the PDF. The following is a shot in the dark: try switching the fonts from Latin Modern to Adobe fonts, or Computer Modern, and see if the problem goes away. If so, perhaps your Latin Modern fonts are somehow damaged. /Paul Thanks, Paul and other kind people, the problem is (partly) solved: The pdf file of Paul shows the same -too large- fonts. So it is a matter of my kpdf viewer. Should have thought of it. I use KPDF 0.5.8 (KDE 3.5.8). Does somebody use the same and could confirm my problem? Wolfgang p.s. I just tried to view the file with the other viewers of LyX (ps2pdf, ps, dvipdfm) and they all give an error message -without specifying it. No output. I have exported the table as a tex file and ran latex on it, viewing the output gives the same problem (too large \pm) p.p.s I just found out, that the problem disappears, if I use higher magnification in viewing the outputed text on my screen. Too many things to think of! Thanks for your patients and help Wolfgang ---
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 08:05 schrieb G. Milde: On 21.05.08, Manveru wrote: What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. To me it looks rather like a font substitution -- some font missing in some disttributions or older versions. Wolfgang, did you look in the latex log file for font substitution warnings? (Exporting your example to latex and converting by hand might make it easier to spot problems, at least if you have some familiarity with LaTeX.) The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. My Debian/testing version of TeXLive works fine, the \pm is the same size as the numbers. Actually, it might be you just have to install additional parts/packages of the distro or an actual version. Günter Günther, I think the reason for my complains is given in my last message (if I increase the pagesize, the pm is ok). But I could sent you the log file of the latex run, if you think it might be something else (in addition?). Thanks for your help. Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. 2008/5/21 Les Denham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:36:01 pm Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances I can see exactly what you are talking about. The +/- symbol appears too large. But only if you use Latin Modern fonts. I tried every other font I have in LaTeX, and the problem seems to be exclusive to the LMSymbol Type 1 font, which I assume is what is used for Math symbols when you use Latin Modern fonts for text. Whether it is a problem with LyX, with LaTeX, or with the font, I can't tell. You can fiddle with the line spacing in the table (I don't remember exactly how), but it seems to me the simplest solution would be to use another font. I'm using 1.5.4 with texlive on Gentoo 2007. Les -- Manveru jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: +/- in a table too large
On 21.05.08, Manveru wrote: What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. To me it looks rather like a font substitution -- some font missing in some disttributions or older versions. Wolfgang, did you look in the latex log file for font substitution warnings? (Exporting your example to latex and converting by hand might make it easier to spot problems, at least if you have some familiarity with LaTeX.) The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. My Debian/testing version of TeXLive works fine, the \pm is the same size as the numbers. Actually, it might be you just have to install additional parts/packages of the distro or an actual version. Günter
Re: +/- in a table too large
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: +/- in a table too large Date: Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 08:15 From: Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 20:52 schrieben Sie: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Compiles just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I've attached the PDF. The following is a shot in the dark: try switching the fonts from Latin Modern to Adobe fonts, or Computer Modern, and see if the problem goes away. If so, perhaps your Latin Modern fonts are somehow damaged. /Paul Thanks, Paul and other kind people, the problem is (partly) solved: The pdf file of Paul shows the same -too large- fonts. So it is a matter of my kpdf viewer. Should have thought of it. I use KPDF 0.5.8 (KDE 3.5.8). Does somebody use the same and could confirm my problem? Wolfgang p.s. I just tried to view the file with the other viewers of LyX (ps2pdf, ps, dvipdfm) and they all give an error message -without specifying it. No output. I have exported the table as a tex file and ran latex on it, viewing the output gives the same problem (too large \pm) p.p.s I just found out, that the problem disappears, if I use higher magnification in viewing the outputed text on my screen. Too many things to think of! Thanks for your patients and help Wolfgang ---
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 08:05 schrieb G. Milde: On 21.05.08, Manveru wrote: What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. To me it looks rather like a font substitution -- some font missing in some disttributions or older versions. Wolfgang, did you look in the latex log file for font substitution warnings? (Exporting your example to latex and converting by hand might make it easier to spot problems, at least if you have some familiarity with LaTeX.) The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. My Debian/testing version of TeXLive works fine, the \pm is the same size as the numbers. Actually, it might be you just have to install additional parts/packages of the distro or an actual version. Günter Günther, I think the reason for my complains is given in my last message (if I increase the pagesize, the pm is ok). But I could sent you the log file of the latex run, if you think it might be something else (in addition?). Thanks for your help. Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in details. Very strange. The question we have here now is which distributions are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math symbols fine with LM typeface. 2008/5/21 Les Denham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:36:01 pm Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things > there, > > and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances > > I can see exactly what you are talking about. The +/- symbol appears too > large. But only if you use Latin Modern fonts. I tried every other font I > have in LaTeX, and the problem seems to be exclusive to the LMSymbol Type 1 > font, which I assume is what is used for Math symbols when you use Latin > Modern fonts for text. Whether it is a problem with LyX, with LaTeX, or > with > the font, I can't tell. > > You can fiddle with the line spacing in the table (I don't remember exactly > how), but it seems to me the simplest solution would be to use another > font. > > I'm using 1.5.4 with texlive on Gentoo 2007. > > Les > -- Manveru jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: +/- in a table too large
On 21.05.08, Manveru wrote: > What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have > different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces in > details. Very strange. To me it looks rather like a font substitution -- some font missing in some disttributions or older versions. Wolfgang, did you look in the latex log file for font substitution warnings? (Exporting your example to latex and converting "by hand" might make it easier to spot problems, at least if you have some familiarity with LaTeX.) > The question we have here now is which distributions > are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get math > symbols fine with LM typeface. My Debian/testing version of TeXLive works fine, the \pm is the same size as the numbers. Actually, it might be you just have to install additional parts/packages of the distro or an actual version. Günter
Re: +/- in a table too large
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: Re: +/- in a table too large Date: Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 08:15 From: Wolfgang Engelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 20:52 schrieben Sie: > Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example > > > > Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things > > there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances > > Compiles just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I've attached the PDF. The > following is a shot in the dark: try switching the fonts from Latin > Modern to Adobe fonts, or Computer Modern, and see if the problem goes > away. If so, perhaps your Latin Modern fonts are somehow damaged. > > /Paul Thanks, Paul and other kind people, the problem is (partly) solved: The pdf file of Paul shows the same -too large- fonts. So it is a matter of my kpdf viewer. Should have thought of it. I use KPDF 0.5.8 (KDE 3.5.8). Does somebody use the same and could confirm my problem? Wolfgang p.s. I just tried to view the file with the other viewers of LyX (ps2pdf, ps, dvipdfm) and they all give an error message -without specifying it. No output. I have exported the table as a tex file and ran latex on it, viewing the output gives the same problem (too large \pm) p.p.s I just found out, that the problem disappears, if I use higher magnification in viewing the outputed text on my screen. Too many things to think of! Thanks for your patients and help Wolfgang ---
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 08:05 schrieb G. Milde: > On 21.05.08, Manveru wrote: > > What I see here from those few responses different TeX distros have > > different implementation (if I can tell that) of Latin Modern typefaces > > in details. Very strange. > > To me it looks rather like a font substitution -- some font missing in some > disttributions or older versions. > > Wolfgang, did you look in the latex log file for font substitution > warnings? > > (Exporting your example to latex and converting "by hand" might make it > easier to spot problems, at least if you have some familiarity with LaTeX.) > > > The question we have here now is which distributions > > are fine by default, and which may need some additional tweaks to get > > math symbols fine with LM typeface. > > My Debian/testing version of TeXLive works fine, the \pm is the same size > as the numbers. > > Actually, it might be you just have to install additional parts/packages of > the distro or an actual version. > > Günter Günther, I think the reason for my complains is given in my last message (if I increase the pagesize, the pm is ok). But I could sent you the log file of the latex run, if you think it might be something else (in addition?). Thanks for your help. Wolfgang
+/- in a table too large
Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang attachment: tabelle-lyx.jpg
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
The typeface is suspected. Some symbols are joined from two characters when selected typeface has not correct glyph in the set. Are you using any alternative font settings in your document? What text size is chosen? 2008/5/20 Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang -- Manveru jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: +/- in a table too large
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang Can you post a small example document where this happens? I've never seen it here. Perhaps it's a font issue? /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
I can't reproduce that (just tried 1.6.0alpha2 on Windows XP), as the table
spacing looks fine.
One way you might be able to work around it is using a \nicefrac{+}{-}
instead of \pm. I personally don't prefer \nicefrac in this case, but it might
work.
Cheers,
C.O.
/
Down with categorical imperative!
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- Original Message
From: Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lyx-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:51:16 AM
Subject: +/- in a table too large
Again a question:
in a table is in math mode e.g.
50.9\pm1.3
the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix)
is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it?
Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 14:40 schrieb Paul A. Rubin: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang Can you post a small example document where this happens? I've never seen it here. Perhaps it's a font issue? /Paul thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang flyrhythm.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: +/- in a table too large
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang This might be a repost -- I tried to post a response but it was rejected because it had an attachment deemed too big. I'm not sure why; the attachment was only 60K. Your file compiled just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I can send you the PDF if you want (I guess you'll need to send me an e-mail address). You might try switching the font from Latin Modern to something else; if that works, the problem is with your Latin Modern files. Here it worked with LM. /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
It worked here for me, too -- no problems with the \pm symbol bleeding into the table frames. ( 1.5.5 on Debian Sid and 1.6.0 svn on Windows XP ) - Original Message From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:12:16 PM Subject: Re: +/- in a table too large Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang This might be a repost -- I tried to post a response but it was rejected because it had an attachment deemed too big. I'm not sure why; the attachment was only 60K. Your file compiled just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I can send you the PDF if you want (I guess you'll need to send me an e-mail address). You might try switching the font from Latin Modern to something else; if that works, the problem is with your Latin Modern files. Here it worked with LM. /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:36:01 pm Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances I can see exactly what you are talking about. The +/- symbol appears too large. But only if you use Latin Modern fonts. I tried every other font I have in LaTeX, and the problem seems to be exclusive to the LMSymbol Type 1 font, which I assume is what is used for Math symbols when you use Latin Modern fonts for text. Whether it is a problem with LyX, with LaTeX, or with the font, I can't tell. You can fiddle with the line spacing in the table (I don't remember exactly how), but it seems to me the simplest solution would be to use another font. I'm using 1.5.4 with texlive on Gentoo 2007. Les
+/- in a table too large
Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang attachment: tabelle-lyx.jpg
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
The typeface is suspected. Some symbols are joined from two characters when selected typeface has not correct glyph in the set. Are you using any alternative font settings in your document? What text size is chosen? 2008/5/20 Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang -- Manveru jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: +/- in a table too large
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang Can you post a small example document where this happens? I've never seen it here. Perhaps it's a font issue? /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
I can't reproduce that (just tried 1.6.0alpha2 on Windows XP), as the table
spacing looks fine.
One way you might be able to work around it is using a \nicefrac{+}{-}
instead of \pm. I personally don't prefer \nicefrac in this case, but it might
work.
Cheers,
C.O.
/
Down with categorical imperative!
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- Original Message
From: Wolfgang Engelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lyx-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:51:16 AM
Subject: +/- in a table too large
Again a question:
in a table is in math mode e.g.
50.9\pm1.3
the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix)
is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it?
Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 14:40 schrieb Paul A. Rubin: Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang Can you post a small example document where this happens? I've never seen it here. Perhaps it's a font issue? /Paul thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang flyrhythm.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: +/- in a table too large
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang This might be a repost -- I tried to post a response but it was rejected because it had an attachment deemed too big. I'm not sure why; the attachment was only 60K. Your file compiled just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I can send you the PDF if you want (I guess you'll need to send me an e-mail address). You might try switching the font from Latin Modern to something else; if that works, the problem is with your Latin Modern files. Here it worked with LM. /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
It worked here for me, too -- no problems with the \pm symbol bleeding into the table frames. ( 1.5.5 on Debian Sid and 1.6.0 svn on Windows XP ) - Original Message From: Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:12:16 PM Subject: Re: +/- in a table too large Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang This might be a repost -- I tried to post a response but it was rejected because it had an attachment deemed too big. I'm not sure why; the attachment was only 60K. Your file compiled just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I can send you the PDF if you want (I guess you'll need to send me an e-mail address). You might try switching the font from Latin Modern to something else; if that works, the problem is with your Latin Modern files. Here it worked with LM. /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:36:01 pm Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances I can see exactly what you are talking about. The +/- symbol appears too large. But only if you use Latin Modern fonts. I tried every other font I have in LaTeX, and the problem seems to be exclusive to the LMSymbol Type 1 font, which I assume is what is used for Math symbols when you use Latin Modern fonts for text. Whether it is a problem with LyX, with LaTeX, or with the font, I can't tell. You can fiddle with the line spacing in the table (I don't remember exactly how), but it seems to me the simplest solution would be to use another font. I'm using 1.5.4 with texlive on Gentoo 2007. Les
+/- in a table too large
Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang <>
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > Again a question: > in a table is in math mode e.g. > 50.9\pm1.3 > the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) > is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? > > Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
The typeface is suspected. Some symbols are joined from two characters when selected typeface has not correct glyph in the set. Are you using any alternative font settings in your document? What text size is chosen? 2008/5/20 Wolfgang Engelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > > Again a question: > > in a table is in math mode e.g. > > 50.9\pm1.3 > > the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) > > is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of > it? > > > > Wolfgang > I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if > I > add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has > to > do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? > > Wolfgang > -- Manveru jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: +/- in a table too large
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: Again a question: in a table is in math mode e.g. 50.9\pm1.3 the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it? Wolfgang I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? Wolfgang Can you post a small example document where this happens? I've never seen it here. Perhaps it's a font issue? /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
I can't reproduce that (just tried 1.6.0alpha2 on Windows XP), as the table
spacing looks fine.
One way you might be able to work around it is using a \nicefrac{+}{-}
instead of \pm. I personally don't prefer \nicefrac in this case, but it might
work.
Cheers,
C.O.
/
Down with categorical imperative!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message
From: Wolfgang Engelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:51:16 AM
Subject: +/- in a table too large
Again a question:
in a table is in math mode e.g.
50.9\pm1.3
the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix)
is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of it?
Wolfgang
Re: +/- in a table too large
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 14:40 schrieb Paul A. Rubin: > Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 11:51 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > >> Again a question: > >> in a table is in math mode e.g. > >> 50.9\pm1.3 > >> the export (pdf) shows too large +/- (see appendix) > >> is this a bug or should I use something else or add \small in front of > >> it? > >> > >> Wolfgang > > > > I just noticed that the same (too large +/-) occurs also in normal text, > > if I add it there in mathmode. So it is not a table problem, butI guess > > it has to do with something of the math stuff. Any hint? > > > > Wolfgang > > Can you post a small example document where this happens? I've never > seen it here. Perhaps it's a font issue? > > /Paul thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang flyrhythm.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: +/- in a table too large
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances Wolfgang This might be a repost -- I tried to post a response but it was rejected because it had an attachment deemed too big. I'm not sure why; the attachment was only 60K. Your file compiled just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I can send you the PDF if you want (I guess you'll need to send me an e-mail address). You might try switching the font from Latin Modern to something else; if that works, the problem is with your Latin Modern files. Here it worked with LM. /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
It worked here for me, too -- no problems with the \pm symbol bleeding into the table frames. ( 1.5.5 on Debian Sid and 1.6.0 svn on Windows XP ) - Original Message From: Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:12:16 PM Subject: Re: +/- in a table too large Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > thanks for the various responses. Here is a minimal example > > Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, > and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances > > Wolfgang This might be a repost -- I tried to post a response but it was rejected because it had an attachment deemed too big. I'm not sure why; the attachment was only 60K. Your file compiled just fine for me (LyX 1.5.5). I can send you the PDF if you want (I guess you'll need to send me an e-mail address). You might try switching the font from Latin Modern to something else; if that works, the problem is with your Latin Modern files. Here it worked with LM. /Paul
Re: +/- in a table too large
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 12:36:01 pm Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Have a look at the document settings. I can´t see any strange things there, > and the error stays after taking out the preamble entrances I can see exactly what you are talking about. The +/- symbol appears too large. But only if you use Latin Modern fonts. I tried every other font I have in LaTeX, and the problem seems to be exclusive to the LMSymbol Type 1 font, which I assume is what is used for Math symbols when you use Latin Modern fonts for text. Whether it is a problem with LyX, with LaTeX, or with the font, I can't tell. You can fiddle with the line spacing in the table (I don't remember exactly how), but it seems to me the simplest solution would be to use another font. I'm using 1.5.4 with texlive on Gentoo 2007. Les
