Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

On 11/25/09, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
On 11/25/2009 01:48 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:
 On 11/25/09, rgheckrgh...@bobjweil.com  wrote:
 This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
 involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
 when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
 see if that helps.

 I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I
 tried starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there
 is no difference.

 A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in
 the local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I
 suppose this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't
 Lyx compile to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of
 stranded latex byproducts should have no effect?

Hmm. This is puzzling.

Try starting LyX from a terminal and see if you're getting any errors
there; maybe try lyx -dbg latex or lyx -dbg files. Also, peek into
LyX's temporary directory---should be /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.RANDOM---and see
if the bib file is successfully being copied over; you can also look
there are the *.tex file that LyX is generating. For some reason, LyX
just isn't finding that file.


Well, I checked the /tmp directory, and I am none the wiser: 
1. Lyx did copy the correct .bib file to the temp directory. 
2. A temporary .tex file was generated. That file had a correct /bibliography 
command that pointed to the copied .bib file  (or /nobibliography, I played 
around with both options)
3. Nonetheless, the generated .pdf file did not have any refs.



I am afraid I will leave it at that for the time being. Indeed, since I have 
switched to BibLatex for all my new documents, a simpler way to achieve the 
/nobibliography effect is to use biblatex in the preamble and simply omit the 
/printbibliography command at the end of the file.


Cheers,

S.











rh

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas AM University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

On 11/25/09, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
On 11/25/2009 01:48 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:
 On 11/25/09, rgheckrgh...@bobjweil.com  wrote:
 This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
 involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
 when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
 see if that helps.

 I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I
 tried starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there
 is no difference.

 A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in
 the local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I
 suppose this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't
 Lyx compile to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of
 stranded latex byproducts should have no effect?

Hmm. This is puzzling.

Try starting LyX from a terminal and see if you're getting any errors
there; maybe try lyx -dbg latex or lyx -dbg files. Also, peek into
LyX's temporary directory---should be /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.RANDOM---and see
if the bib file is successfully being copied over; you can also look
there are the *.tex file that LyX is generating. For some reason, LyX
just isn't finding that file.


Well, I checked the /tmp directory, and I am none the wiser: 
1. Lyx did copy the correct .bib file to the temp directory. 
2. A temporary .tex file was generated. That file had a correct /bibliography 
command that pointed to the copied .bib file  (or /nobibliography, I played 
around with both options)
3. Nonetheless, the generated .pdf file did not have any refs.



I am afraid I will leave it at that for the time being. Indeed, since I have 
switched to BibLatex for all my new documents, a simpler way to achieve the 
/nobibliography effect is to use biblatex in the preamble and simply omit the 
/printbibliography command at the end of the file.


Cheers,

S.











rh

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas AM University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

On 11/25/09, rgheck  wrote:
>On 11/25/2009 01:48 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:
>> On 11/25/09, rgheck  wrote:
>>> This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
>>> involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
>>> when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
>>> see if that helps.
>>
>> I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I
>> tried starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there
>> is no difference.
>>
>> A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in
>> the local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I
>> suppose this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't
>> Lyx compile to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of
>> stranded latex byproducts should have no effect?
>
>Hmm. This is puzzling.
>
>Try starting LyX from a terminal and see if you're getting any errors
>there; maybe try "lyx -dbg latex" or "lyx -dbg files". Also, peek into
>LyX's temporary directory---should be /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.RANDOM---and see
>if the bib file is successfully being copied over; you can also look
>there are the *.tex file that LyX is generating. For some reason, LyX
>just isn't finding that file.
>

Well, I checked the /tmp directory, and I am none the wiser: 
1. Lyx did copy the correct .bib file to the temp directory. 
2. A temporary .tex file was generated. That file had a correct /bibliography 
command that pointed to the copied .bib file  (or /nobibliography, I played 
around with both options)
3. Nonetheless, the generated .pdf file did not have any refs.



I am afraid I will leave it at that for the time being. Indeed, since I have 
switched to BibLatex for all my new documents, a simpler way to achieve the 
/nobibliography effect is to use biblatex in the preamble and simply omit the 
/printbibliography command at the end of the file.


Cheers,

S.











>rh
>
__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas A University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

I have a document (my CV, actually) where I want to use full bibliographic 
references in the text, but I do not want any reference section at the end of 
the document. I used to solve this problem with a strategy similar to what is 
recommended for biblatex. Namely:

1. Insert bibliography the Lyx way (InsertList/TocBibTeX bibliography) at 
the end of the document

2. Put the inserted bibliography in a Lyx note. 

These two steps give access to the reference from within the LyX document

3. Add the ERT commands \bibliographystyle{style} \nobibliography{absolute 
/path/to/file.bib}

The final step takes care of omitting the reference section at the end of the 
formatted document.

I have been using this method for years without any problems. Yet today, when 
I tried to update and print my Cv, I found out that LyX cannot find the 
references when producing the (pdf)Latex file and puts the infamous question 
marks in their place in the final pdf file. Yet, if I export to Latex and 
compile manually everything works as expected.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? The Latex log tells me nothing 
useful---the usual list of Latex Warning: Citation XXX is undefined on line 
YYY  


Cheers,

Stefano

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas AM University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[rgheck]

On 11/25/2009 12:34 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:

I have a document (my CV, actually) where I want to use full bibliographic
references in the text, but I do not want any reference section at the end of
the document. I used to solve this problem with a strategy similar to what is
recommended for biblatex. Namely:

1. Insert bibliography the Lyx way (InsertList/TocBibTeX bibliography) at
the end of the document

2. Put the inserted bibliography in a Lyx note.

These two steps give access to the reference from within the LyX document

3. Add the ERT commands \bibliographystyle{style} \nobibliography{absolute
/path/to/file.bib}

The final step takes care of omitting the reference section at the end of the
formatted document.

I have been using this method for years without any problems. Yet today, when
I tried to update and print my Cv, I found out that LyX cannot find the
references when producing the (pdf)Latex file and puts the infamous question
marks in their place in the final pdf file. Yet, if I export to Latex and
compile manually everything works as expected.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? The Latex log tells me nothing
useful---the usual list of Latex Warning: Citation XXX is undefined on line
YYY

   
This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently, 
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set 
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and 
see if that helps.


rh

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

On 11/25/09, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:

This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
see if that helps.

I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I tried 
starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there is no 
difference. 

A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in the 
local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I suppose 
this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't Lyx compile 
to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of stranded latex 
byproducts should have no effect?


S.







rh

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas AM University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[rgheck]

On 11/25/2009 01:48 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:

On 11/25/09, rgheckrgh...@bobjweil.com  wrote:

   

This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
see if that helps.
 

I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I tried
starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there is no
difference.

A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in the
local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I suppose
this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't Lyx compile
to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of stranded latex
byproducts should have no effect?

   

Hmm. This is puzzling.

Try starting LyX from a terminal and see if you're getting any errors 
there; maybe try lyx -dbg latex or lyx -dbg files. Also, peek into 
LyX's temporary directory---should be /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.RANDOM---and see 
if the bib file is successfully being copied over; you can also look 
there are the *.tex file that LyX is generating. For some reason, LyX 
just isn't finding that file.


rh

Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

I have a document (my CV, actually) where I want to use full bibliographic 
references in the text, but I do not want any reference section at the end of 
the document. I used to solve this problem with a strategy similar to what is 
recommended for biblatex. Namely:

1. Insert bibliography the Lyx way (InsertList/TocBibTeX bibliography) at 
the end of the document

2. Put the inserted bibliography in a Lyx note. 

These two steps give access to the reference from within the LyX document

3. Add the ERT commands \bibliographystyle{style} \nobibliography{absolute 
/path/to/file.bib}

The final step takes care of omitting the reference section at the end of the 
formatted document.

I have been using this method for years without any problems. Yet today, when 
I tried to update and print my Cv, I found out that LyX cannot find the 
references when producing the (pdf)Latex file and puts the infamous question 
marks in their place in the final pdf file. Yet, if I export to Latex and 
compile manually everything works as expected.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? The Latex log tells me nothing 
useful---the usual list of Latex Warning: Citation XXX is undefined on line 
YYY  


Cheers,

Stefano

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas AM University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[rgheck]

On 11/25/2009 12:34 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:

I have a document (my CV, actually) where I want to use full bibliographic
references in the text, but I do not want any reference section at the end of
the document. I used to solve this problem with a strategy similar to what is
recommended for biblatex. Namely:

1. Insert bibliography the Lyx way (InsertList/TocBibTeX bibliography) at
the end of the document

2. Put the inserted bibliography in a Lyx note.

These two steps give access to the reference from within the LyX document

3. Add the ERT commands \bibliographystyle{style} \nobibliography{absolute
/path/to/file.bib}

The final step takes care of omitting the reference section at the end of the
formatted document.

I have been using this method for years without any problems. Yet today, when
I tried to update and print my Cv, I found out that LyX cannot find the
references when producing the (pdf)Latex file and puts the infamous question
marks in their place in the final pdf file. Yet, if I export to Latex and
compile manually everything works as expected.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? The Latex log tells me nothing
useful---the usual list of Latex Warning: Citation XXX is undefined on line
YYY

   
This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently, 
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set 
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and 
see if that helps.


rh

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

On 11/25/09, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:

This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
see if that helps.

I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I tried 
starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there is no 
difference. 

A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in the 
local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I suppose 
this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't Lyx compile 
to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of stranded latex 
byproducts should have no effect?


S.







rh

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas AM University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[rgheck]

On 11/25/2009 01:48 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:

On 11/25/09, rgheckrgh...@bobjweil.com  wrote:

   

This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
see if that helps.
 

I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I tried
starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there is no
difference.

A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in the
local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I suppose
this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't Lyx compile
to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of stranded latex
byproducts should have no effect?

   

Hmm. This is puzzling.

Try starting LyX from a terminal and see if you're getting any errors 
there; maybe try lyx -dbg latex or lyx -dbg files. Also, peek into 
LyX's temporary directory---should be /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.RANDOM---and see 
if the bib file is successfully being copied over; you can also look 
there are the *.tex file that LyX is generating. For some reason, LyX 
just isn't finding that file.


rh

Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

I have a document (my CV, actually) where I want to use full bibliographic 
references in the text, but I do not want any reference section at the end of 
the document. I used to solve this problem with a strategy similar to what is 
recommended for biblatex. Namely:

1. Insert bibliography "the Lyx way" (Insert>List/Toc>BibTeX bibliography) at 
the end of the document

2. Put the inserted bibliography in a Lyx note. 

These two steps give access to the reference from within the LyX document

3. Add the ERT commands \bibliographystyle{style} \nobibliography{absolute 
/path/to/file.bib}

The final step takes care of omitting the reference section at the end of the 
formatted document.

I have been using this method for years without any problems. Yet today, when 
I tried to update and print my Cv, I found out that LyX cannot find the 
references when producing the (pdf)Latex file and puts the infamous question 
marks in their place in the final pdf file. Yet, if I export to Latex and 
compile manually everything works as expected.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? The Latex log tells me nothing 
useful---the usual list of "Latex Warning: Citation XXX is undefined on line 
YYY"  


Cheers,

Stefano

__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas A University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[rgheck]

On 11/25/2009 12:34 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:

I have a document (my CV, actually) where I want to use full bibliographic
references in the text, but I do not want any reference section at the end of
the document. I used to solve this problem with a strategy similar to what is
recommended for biblatex. Namely:

1. Insert bibliography "the Lyx way" (Insert>List/Toc>BibTeX bibliography) at
the end of the document

2. Put the inserted bibliography in a Lyx note.

These two steps give access to the reference from within the LyX document

3. Add the ERT commands \bibliographystyle{style} \nobibliography{absolute
/path/to/file.bib}

The final step takes care of omitting the reference section at the end of the
formatted document.

I have been using this method for years without any problems. Yet today, when
I tried to update and print my Cv, I found out that LyX cannot find the
references when producing the (pdf)Latex file and puts the infamous question
marks in their place in the final pdf file. Yet, if I export to Latex and
compile manually everything works as expected.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? The Latex log tells me nothing
useful---the usual list of "Latex Warning: Citation XXX is undefined on line
YYY"

   
This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently, 
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set 
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and 
see if that helps.


rh

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[Stefano Franchi]

On 11/25/09, rgheck  wrote:

>This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
>involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
>when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
>see if that helps.

I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I tried 
starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there is no 
difference. 

A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in the 
local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I suppose 
this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't Lyx compile 
to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of stranded latex 
byproducts should have no effect?


S.






>
>rh
>
__
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy  Ph:  (979) 862-2211
Texas A University  Fax: (979) 845-0458
305B Bolton Hall  fran...@philosophy.tamu.edu
College Station, TX 77843-4237

Re: Correct usage of \nobibliography in Lyx?

[rgheck]

On 11/25/2009 01:48 PM, Stefano Franchi wrote:

On 11/25/09, rgheck  wrote:

   

This sounds like something that has been reported a few times recently,
involving environment variables set from the shell that aren't being set
when LyX is run from an icon. Try running LyX itself from the shell and
see if that helps.
 

I usually start LyX from the Kde mini-command line (i.e. Alt-F2), but I tried
starting it from a real terminal just in case. Unfortunately there is no
difference.

A further puzzle:  if I export to Pdflatex and compile (successfully) in the
local directory, successive attempts by Lyx are successful as well. I suppose
this is due to the presence of .aux and .bbl files. But shouldn't Lyx compile
to pdf in a remote and safe environment, where the presence of stranded latex
byproducts should have no effect?

   

Hmm. This is puzzling.

Try starting LyX from a terminal and see if you're getting any errors 
there; maybe try "lyx -dbg latex" or "lyx -dbg files". Also, peek into 
LyX's temporary directory---should be /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.RANDOM---and see 
if the bib file is successfully being copied over; you can also look 
there are the *.tex file that LyX is generating. For some reason, LyX 
just isn't finding that file.


rh