Re: English aka british

[F M Salter]

> On 03/03/17 11:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>
> Am Freitag, den 03.03.2017, 14:55 + schrieb F M Salter:
> > To the best of my knowledge there is no US-English in my article at
> > all.  However the scrartcls is given the arguments [english,british]
> > by LyX!
> Then there must be some (US) English snippet in your document.
You are absolutely correct \printbibliography  for biblatex was being
taken to be US English.
> Jürgen
Thanks again for the speedy resolution of the problem.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Frank Salter

Re: English aka british

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 03.03.2017, 14:55 + schrieb F M Salter:
> To the best of my knowledge there is no US-English in my article at
> all.  However the scrartcls is given the arguments [english,british]
> by LyX!

Then there must be some (US) English snippet in your document.

Jürgen

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Re: English aka british

[F M Salter]

On 03/03/17 11:00, Jü LyX Document LyX Document LyX Document rgen
Spitzmü LyX Document ller wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 03.03.2017, 07:28 + schrieb F M Salter:
>> Hi
>>
>> Sorry about the subject,
>>
>> but being an Englishman I find it a hard pill to swallow that my
>> native language is not to be called "english" but "british"!
> The reason is that the "english" option of babel is used as an alias
> for usenglish (TeX's default language patterns, as TeX is a Stanford
> child). However, if another English variety is used (british, canadien,
> australian, even american, etc.), english is set to the last one loaded
> (a bug in babel, see
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/12775/babel-english-american-usenglish)
> 
>> I have found that when using the KOMA scrartcl class with the LyX
>> setting "English (UK)" and biblatex/biber, pdflatex issues warnings that
>> the babel package setting of english  is inappropriate when british is
>> the primary language.  Babel does provide provide files explicitly
>> british.  The tex file simply contains the line "\usepackage{babel}".
>>
>> A number of questions arise:Does the warning matter?
> Probably yes (in the cases mentioned above.
To the best of my knowledge there is no US-English in my article at
all.  However the scrartcls is given the arguments [english,british] by LyX!
>>   Is there some setting, I need to make,
>> of which I am unaware?
> Yes. Don't use "English" together with "English (UK)". Use
> "English(USA)" for american English instead
>>   Is this a bug in LyX?
>>
> I wouldn't call it a bug, since LyX provides proper american language
> selection. Maybe LyX could take care that "american" is used instead
> of "english" if another English variety is in play.

> HTH
> Jürgen  .
Thanks for your quick reply.
>> Regards
>>
>> Frank Salter

Re: English aka british

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 03.03.2017, 07:28 + schrieb F M Salter:
> Hi
> 
> Sorry about the subject,
> 
> but being an Englishman I find it a hard pill to swallow that
> my
> native language is not to be called "english" but "british"!

The reason is that the "english" option of babel is used as an alias
for usenglish (TeX's default language patterns, as TeX is a Stanford
child). However, if another English variety is used (british, canadien,
australian, even american, etc.), english is set to the last one loaded
(a bug in babel, see
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/12775/babel-english-american-use
nglish)

Thus, Babel issues a warning when both "english" and _some_ English
variety are used. It expects either "english" (only) or the use of the
variety names.

> I have found that when using the KOMA scrartcl class with the LyX
> setting "English (UK)" and biblatex/biber, pdflatex issues warnings
> that
> the babel package setting of english  is inappropriate when british
> is
> the primary language.  Babel does provide provide files explicitly
> british.  The tex file simply contains the line "\usepackage{babel}".
> 
> A number of questions arise:
> 
> Does the warning matter?  

Probably yes (in the cases mentioned above).

> Is there some setting, I need to make,
> of which I am unaware?  

Yes. Don't use "English" together with "English (UK)". Use "English
(USA)" for american English instead.

> Is this a bug in LyX?

I wouldn't call it a bug, since LyX provides proper american language
selection. Maybe LyX could take care that "american" is used instead of
"english" if another English variety is in play.

HTH
Jürgen

> 
> Regards
> 
> Frank Salter
> 

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English aka british

[F M Salter]

Hi

Sorry about the subject,

but being an Englishman I find it a hard pill to swallow that my
native language is not to be called "english" but "british"!

I have found that when using the KOMA scrartcl class with the LyX
setting "English (UK)" and biblatex/biber, pdflatex issues warnings that
the babel package setting of english  is inappropriate when british is
the primary language.  Babel does provide provide files explicitly
british.  The tex file simply contains the line "\usepackage{babel}".

A number of questions arise:

Does the warning matter?  Is there some setting, I need to make,
of which I am unaware?  Is this a bug in LyX?

Regards

Frank Salter