Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:54:34 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

  Cool!
 
  This is going to be easier than I thought.
 
  Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE
  had Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise,
  and assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works
  on a counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it
  increments the counter. Now, for every containing environment,
  whether it be Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure
  that containing environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if
  your environment pre-increments). That's it, you're done.
 
 
 I'm afraid you're overestimating my LaTeX knowledge. (It's close to
 zero.) I didn't make the Exercise environment (it's from the
 Theorems (AMS) module) and have no idea how to do so. A bit more
 guidance would be very welcome.

I figured that. That's why I estimated it would take you a day instead
of three hours like it would take me, or ten minutes like it would take
a lot of the LaTeX gurus on the list.

A passing knowledge of LaTeX is very, very, VERY helpful in making you a
confident LyX user. A little LaTeX knowledge enables you to escape from
dead ends that otherwise might trap you.

My two proudest moments in LaTeX, and keep in mind that each of these
kept me busy for over a day, were:

1) Changing Section, Subsection, and SubSubSection to display lines
that are, thick, medium and light, respectively. I did this for a
decidedly non-Geek book where numbers wouldn't be appreciated.

2) I made LaTeX so I could put a non-printing command specifying a date
in the text, and the header on that page and every succeeding page
would display that date, until another command changed the date. I did
this in a business novel covering several years, in which it might have
been possible to get confused about when the present was.

In both cases, the people on the LyX list helped me with those things I
couldn't figure out how to do. In both cases, I was darned glad I knew
a little LaTeX, because it enabled me to make my book look *exactly*
how I wanted to look, instead of settling for the look of the nearest
package I could find.

HTH

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:54:34 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

  Cool!
 
  This is going to be easier than I thought.
 
  Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE
  had Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise,
  and assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works
  on a counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it
  increments the counter. Now, for every containing environment,
  whether it be Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure
  that containing environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if
  your environment pre-increments). That's it, you're done.
 
 
 I'm afraid you're overestimating my LaTeX knowledge. (It's close to
 zero.) I didn't make the Exercise environment (it's from the
 Theorems (AMS) module) and have no idea how to do so. A bit more
 guidance would be very welcome.

I figured that. That's why I estimated it would take you a day instead
of three hours like it would take me, or ten minutes like it would take
a lot of the LaTeX gurus on the list.

A passing knowledge of LaTeX is very, very, VERY helpful in making you a
confident LyX user. A little LaTeX knowledge enables you to escape from
dead ends that otherwise might trap you.

My two proudest moments in LaTeX, and keep in mind that each of these
kept me busy for over a day, were:

1) Changing Section, Subsection, and SubSubSection to display lines
that are, thick, medium and light, respectively. I did this for a
decidedly non-Geek book where numbers wouldn't be appreciated.

2) I made LaTeX so I could put a non-printing command specifying a date
in the text, and the header on that page and every succeeding page
would display that date, until another command changed the date. I did
this in a business novel covering several years, in which it might have
been possible to get confused about when the present was.

In both cases, the people on the LyX list helped me with those things I
couldn't figure out how to do. In both cases, I was darned glad I knew
a little LaTeX, because it enabled me to make my book look *exactly*
how I wanted to look, instead of settling for the look of the nearest
package I could find.

HTH

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:54:34 -0800
Jane Shevtsov  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Steve Litt
> wrote:

> > Cool!
> >
> > This is going to be easier than I thought.
> >
> > Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE
> > had Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise,
> > and assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works
> > on a counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it
> > increments the counter. Now, for every containing environment,
> > whether it be Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure
> > that containing environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if
> > your environment pre-increments). That's it, you're done.
> >
> 
> I'm afraid you're overestimating my LaTeX knowledge. (It's close to
> zero.) I didn't make the Exercise environment (it's from the
> "Theorems (AMS)" module) and have no idea how to do so. A bit more
> guidance would be very welcome.

I figured that. That's why I estimated it would take you a day instead
of three hours like it would take me, or ten minutes like it would take
a lot of the LaTeX gurus on the list.

A passing knowledge of LaTeX is very, very, VERY helpful in making you a
confident LyX user. A little LaTeX knowledge enables you to escape from
dead ends that otherwise might trap you.

My two proudest moments in LaTeX, and keep in mind that each of these
kept me busy for over a day, were:

1) Changing Section, Subsection, and SubSubSection to display lines
that are, thick, medium and light, respectively. I did this for a
decidedly non-Geek book where numbers wouldn't be appreciated.

2) I made LaTeX so I could put a non-printing command specifying a date
in the text, and the header on that page and every succeeding page
would display that date, until another command changed the date. I did
this in a business novel covering several years, in which it might have
been possible to get confused about when the present was.

In both cases, the people on the LyX list helped me with those things I
couldn't figure out how to do. In both cases, I was darned glad I knew
a little LaTeX, because it enabled me to make my book look *exactly*
how I wanted to look, instead of settling for the look of the nearest
package I could find.

HTH

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:50 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
  On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
  Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
   sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
  
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
 
I understand that you don't want problems to continue the
numbering of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset
them to what? In your example, if you reset the major number to
2, then numbered section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
   
  
   I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within
   each section to start at 1.
 
  Ah-ha!
 
  Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how
  you *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and
  is much less prone to misunderstanding.
 
  You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
  showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
 
 
 Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the
 exercises in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue
 right now is numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered
 continuously throughout the book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it
 would also be ok if they were numbered within chapters.

Cool!

This is going to be easier than I thought.

Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE had
Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise, and
assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works on a
counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it increments
the counter. Now, for every containing environment, whether it be
Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure that containing
environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if your environment
pre-increments). That's it, you're done.

I don't remember the exact LaTeX, but as I remember you need a
\newcounter in the preamble, the enclosing Mysection and Lab
environments need a \setcounter, and the Exercise environment needs a
\addtocounter. Or, you can make it a list environment, and use
\usecounter, in which case I don't think you need to explicitly
increment the counter.

See http://www.personal.ceu.hu/tex/counters.htm

LaTeX is difficult and obstreperous, so I'd suggest you make a tiny
LaTeX file and compile it, then put your environments in there, and
keep tweaking it til it works. Then, knowing you have a working set of
environments, put them into a LyX layout file and use the layout file
in a trivial LyX file. Once that's working, put the environemnts in the
layout file for your book. Please remember, when you change your layout
file, in LyX you need to Tools-reconfigure and then restart LyX to
have your changes take hold.

This sounds like a lot of work, but I bet you can get it working in a
day, and that's a lot quicker and less hassle than if you try to just
jam them directly into LyX, and you'll be a lot more confident too.

Once you've gotten this all perfected, please post it to the list, as a
lot of us need to do similar things, and it's not trivial.

Thanks, and HTH,

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:50 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt
  sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
   On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
   Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
  
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
   
 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
  
 I understand that you don't want problems to continue the
 numbering of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset
 them to what? In your example, if you reset the major number to
 2, then numbered section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.

   
I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within
each section to start at 1.
  
   Ah-ha!
  
   Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how
   you *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and
   is much less prone to misunderstanding.
  
   You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
   showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
  
 
  Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the
  exercises in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue
  right now is numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered
  continuously throughout the book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it
  would also be ok if they were numbered within chapters.

 Cool!

 This is going to be easier than I thought.

 Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE had
 Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise, and
 assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works on a
 counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it increments
 the counter. Now, for every containing environment, whether it be
 Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure that containing
 environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if your environment
 pre-increments). That's it, you're done.


I'm afraid you're overestimating my LaTeX knowledge. (It's close to zero.)
I didn't make the Exercise environment (it's from the Theorems (AMS)
module) and have no idea how to do so. A bit more guidance would be very
welcome.

Many thanks,
Jane

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:50 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
  On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
  Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
   sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
  
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
 
I understand that you don't want problems to continue the
numbering of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset
them to what? In your example, if you reset the major number to
2, then numbered section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
   
  
   I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within
   each section to start at 1.
 
  Ah-ha!
 
  Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how
  you *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and
  is much less prone to misunderstanding.
 
  You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
  showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
 
 
 Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the
 exercises in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue
 right now is numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered
 continuously throughout the book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it
 would also be ok if they were numbered within chapters.

Cool!

This is going to be easier than I thought.

Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE had
Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise, and
assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works on a
counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it increments
the counter. Now, for every containing environment, whether it be
Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure that containing
environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if your environment
pre-increments). That's it, you're done.

I don't remember the exact LaTeX, but as I remember you need a
\newcounter in the preamble, the enclosing Mysection and Lab
environments need a \setcounter, and the Exercise environment needs a
\addtocounter. Or, you can make it a list environment, and use
\usecounter, in which case I don't think you need to explicitly
increment the counter.

See http://www.personal.ceu.hu/tex/counters.htm

LaTeX is difficult and obstreperous, so I'd suggest you make a tiny
LaTeX file and compile it, then put your environments in there, and
keep tweaking it til it works. Then, knowing you have a working set of
environments, put them into a LyX layout file and use the layout file
in a trivial LyX file. Once that's working, put the environemnts in the
layout file for your book. Please remember, when you change your layout
file, in LyX you need to Tools-reconfigure and then restart LyX to
have your changes take hold.

This sounds like a lot of work, but I bet you can get it working in a
day, and that's a lot quicker and less hassle than if you try to just
jam them directly into LyX, and you'll be a lot more confident too.

Once you've gotten this all perfected, please post it to the list, as a
lot of us need to do similar things, and it's not trivial.

Thanks, and HTH,

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:50 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt
  sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
   On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
   Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
  
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
   
 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
  
 I understand that you don't want problems to continue the
 numbering of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset
 them to what? In your example, if you reset the major number to
 2, then numbered section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.

   
I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within
each section to start at 1.
  
   Ah-ha!
  
   Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how
   you *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and
   is much less prone to misunderstanding.
  
   You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
   showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
  
 
  Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the
  exercises in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue
  right now is numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered
  continuously throughout the book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it
  would also be ok if they were numbered within chapters.

 Cool!

 This is going to be easier than I thought.

 Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE had
 Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise, and
 assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works on a
 counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it increments
 the counter. Now, for every containing environment, whether it be
 Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure that containing
 environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if your environment
 pre-increments). That's it, you're done.


I'm afraid you're overestimating my LaTeX knowledge. (It's close to zero.)
I didn't make the Exercise environment (it's from the Theorems (AMS)
module) and have no idea how to do so. A bit more guidance would be very
welcome.

Many thanks,
Jane

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:50 -0800
Jane Shevtsov  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
> > Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
> > > > Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
> >
> > > > I understand that you don't want problems to continue the
> > > > numbering of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset
> > > > them to what? In your example, if you reset the major number to
> > > > 2, then numbered section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within
> > > each section to start at 1.
> >
> > Ah-ha!
> >
> > Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how
> > you *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and
> > is much less prone to misunderstanding.
> >
> > You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
> > showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
> >
> 
> Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the
> exercises in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue
> right now is numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered
> continuously throughout the book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it
> would also be ok if they were numbered within chapters.

Cool!

This is going to be easier than I thought.

Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE had
Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise, and
assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works on a
counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it increments
the counter. Now, for every containing environment, whether it be
Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure that containing
environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if your environment
pre-increments). That's it, you're done.

I don't remember the exact LaTeX, but as I remember you need a
\newcounter in the preamble, the enclosing Mysection and Lab
environments need a \setcounter, and the Exercise environment needs a
\addtocounter. Or, you can make it a list environment, and use
\usecounter, in which case I don't think you need to explicitly
increment the counter.

See http://www.personal.ceu.hu/tex/counters.htm

LaTeX is difficult and obstreperous, so I'd suggest you make a tiny
LaTeX file and compile it, then put your environments in there, and
keep tweaking it til it works. Then, knowing you have a working set of
environments, put them into a LyX layout file and use the layout file
in a trivial LyX file. Once that's working, put the environemnts in the
layout file for your book. Please remember, when you change your layout
file, in LyX you need to Tools->reconfigure and then restart LyX to
have your changes take hold.

This sounds like a lot of work, but I bet you can get it working in a
day, and that's a lot quicker and less hassle than if you try to just
jam them directly into LyX, and you'll be a lot more confident too.

Once you've gotten this all perfected, please post it to the list, as a
lot of us need to do similar things, and it's not trivial.

Thanks, and HTH,

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:50 -0800
> Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
> > > Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
> > > > > Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I understand that you don't want problems to continue the
> > > > > numbering of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset
> > > > > them to what? In your example, if you reset the major number to
> > > > > 2, then numbered section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within
> > > > each section to start at 1.
> > >
> > > Ah-ha!
> > >
> > > Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how
> > > you *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and
> > > is much less prone to misunderstanding.
> > >
> > > You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
> > > showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
> > >
> >
> > Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the
> > exercises in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue
> > right now is numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered
> > continuously throughout the book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it
> > would also be ok if they were numbered within chapters.
>
> Cool!
>
> This is going to be easier than I thought.
>
> Now, keep in mind this one says exercise 1, exercise2, and the MWE had
> Problem 1, problem 2, etc. So for this email I'll use Exercise, and
> assume you have made an environment called Exercise that works on a
> counter called exercise_counter. Make the environment so it increments
> the counter. Now, for every containing environment, whether it be
> Section and Section*, or Mysection and Lab, make sure that containing
> environment resets the counter back to 1 (or 0 if your environment
> pre-increments). That's it, you're done.
>

I'm afraid you're overestimating my LaTeX knowledge. (It's close to zero.)
I didn't make the Exercise environment (it's from the "Theorems (AMS)"
module) and have no idea how to do so. A bit more guidance would be very
welcome.

Many thanks,
Jane

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak
 skost...@princeton.eduwrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org
   wrote:
  
  
   If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
   start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
   LaTeX magic,
  but is
   perfectly do-able.
  
  
   Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
 
  Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
  http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
 
 
 Here's an example of what's happening now.
 
 Best,
 Jane

Hi Jane,

I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering of
the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what? In
your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered section
2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.

This isn't a technical issue so much as an issue of understandability. 

Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts the
same way as the Problem environment you currently use in environment
Section except is prints and increments the counter for Lab.

By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem environment
instead of using Subsection. 

Let me go a step further. If I were writing this textbook, I would not
use Section or Section* at all in the interactive part of your book.
I'd make an environment called Situation or some such for what in
your example you use Section, and Lab for what in your example you
handle with Section*. That way:

1) You have complete control of behavior.

2) It much more faithfully adheres to what I call Styles-based layout,
and what a lot of LyX people called WYSIWYM.

What you're doing with Section and Section* right now are things those
environments were never intended to handle. Sure, you can get close,
but ultimately something will go wrong because those environments were
meant to handle normal document headings at the level just below
Chapter.

Also, the more experience I get, the more I hate any use of Section*.
In the long run, Section* always makes me cry.

I wrote some content on making your own list environments here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm

HTH,

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak
  skost...@princeton.eduwrote:
 
   On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org
wrote:
   
   
If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
LaTeX magic,
   but is
perfectly do-able.
   
   
Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
  
   Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
   http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
  
  
  Here's an example of what's happening now.
 Hi Jane,

 I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering of
 the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what? In
 your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered section
 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.


I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each section
to start at 1.

Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
 instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
 that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts the
 same way as the Problem environment you currently use in environment
 Section except is prints and increments the counter for Lab.

 By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem environment
 instead of using Subsection.


Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only use
Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

How would you make a Lab or Labproblem environment?

What you're doing with Section and Section* right now are things those
 environments were never intended to handle. Sure, you can get close,
 but ultimately something will go wrong because those environments were
 meant to handle normal document headings at the level just below
 Chapter.


That's exactly how I'm using them. I didn't put a Chapter heading in the
minimal example, but the actual textbook has six chapters with several
sections in each.

Thanks,
Jane

-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:46:00 -0500
Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org
  wrote:
 
 
  If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
  start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
  LaTeX magic, but is perfectly do-able.
 
 
  Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
 
 Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
 http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

That Wiki page is one of the coolest things I've run across. Eric
Raymond told us all to use MWEs, but really didn't tell us how or why.

I added two more reasons to the list of reasons on that page. Hope you
all like it.

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
  On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
  Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering
  of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what?
  In your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered
  section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
 
 
 I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each
 section to start at 1.

Ah-ha!

Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how you
*want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and is much
less prone to misunderstanding.

You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
showing how you'd like your MWE to look.

 
 Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
  instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
  that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts
  the same way as the Problem environment you currently use in
  environment Section except is prints and increments the counter for
  Lab.
 
  By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem
  environment instead of using Subsection.
 
 
 Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only
 use Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

What package?

 How would you make a Lab or Labproblem environment?

Depending on your prior LaTeX experience, this might sound like
gobblety gook to you...

You'd make your own Document Class, based on the one you're using now,
using a layout file. Within the layout file, you'd add environments of
your own. Your environments for Lab and Labproblem would maintain their
own counters.

But first things first. I honestly don't know how you want this thing
to look, and I have a feeling few others on this list know that either.
A prototype would make that crystal clear. Once the enhancement is
defined, the rest is just a little LaTeX wizardry.

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
  sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
   On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
   Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

   I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering
   of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what?
   In your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered
   section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
  
 
  I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each
  section to start at 1.

 Ah-ha!

 Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how you
 *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and is much
 less prone to misunderstanding.

 You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
 showing how you'd like your MWE to look.


Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the exercises
in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue right now is
numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered continuously throughout the
book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it would also be ok if they were numbered
within chapters.




   Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
   instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
   that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts
   the same way as the Problem environment you currently use in
   environment Section except is prints and increments the counter for
   Lab.
  
   By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem
   environment instead of using Subsection.
  
 
  Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only
  use Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

 What package?


I'm using the Theorems (AMS, Numbered by Type) and Theorems (Numbered by
Type Within Section) modules. I think they actually might be LyX built-ins.

Thanks,
Jane


layout prototype.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak
 skost...@princeton.eduwrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org
   wrote:
  
  
   If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
   start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
   LaTeX magic,
  but is
   perfectly do-able.
  
  
   Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
 
  Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
  http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
 
 
 Here's an example of what's happening now.
 
 Best,
 Jane

Hi Jane,

I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering of
the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what? In
your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered section
2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.

This isn't a technical issue so much as an issue of understandability. 

Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts the
same way as the Problem environment you currently use in environment
Section except is prints and increments the counter for Lab.

By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem environment
instead of using Subsection. 

Let me go a step further. If I were writing this textbook, I would not
use Section or Section* at all in the interactive part of your book.
I'd make an environment called Situation or some such for what in
your example you use Section, and Lab for what in your example you
handle with Section*. That way:

1) You have complete control of behavior.

2) It much more faithfully adheres to what I call Styles-based layout,
and what a lot of LyX people called WYSIWYM.

What you're doing with Section and Section* right now are things those
environments were never intended to handle. Sure, you can get close,
but ultimately something will go wrong because those environments were
meant to handle normal document headings at the level just below
Chapter.

Also, the more experience I get, the more I hate any use of Section*.
In the long run, Section* always makes me cry.

I wrote some content on making your own list environments here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm

HTH,

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak
  skost...@princeton.eduwrote:
 
   On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org
wrote:
   
   
If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
LaTeX magic,
   but is
perfectly do-able.
   
   
Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
  
   Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
   http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
  
  
  Here's an example of what's happening now.
 Hi Jane,

 I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering of
 the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what? In
 your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered section
 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.


I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each section
to start at 1.

Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
 instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
 that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts the
 same way as the Problem environment you currently use in environment
 Section except is prints and increments the counter for Lab.

 By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem environment
 instead of using Subsection.


Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only use
Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

How would you make a Lab or Labproblem environment?

What you're doing with Section and Section* right now are things those
 environments were never intended to handle. Sure, you can get close,
 but ultimately something will go wrong because those environments were
 meant to handle normal document headings at the level just below
 Chapter.


That's exactly how I'm using them. I didn't put a Chapter heading in the
minimal example, but the actual textbook has six chapters with several
sections in each.

Thanks,
Jane

-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:46:00 -0500
Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org
  wrote:
 
 
  If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
  start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
  LaTeX magic, but is perfectly do-able.
 
 
  Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
 
 Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
 http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

That Wiki page is one of the coolest things I've run across. Eric
Raymond told us all to use MWEs, but really didn't tell us how or why.

I added two more reasons to the list of reasons on that page. Hope you
all like it.

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
 sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
  On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
  Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering
  of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what?
  In your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered
  section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
 
 
 I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each
 section to start at 1.

Ah-ha!

Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how you
*want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and is much
less prone to misunderstanding.

You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
showing how you'd like your MWE to look.

 
 Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
  instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
  that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts
  the same way as the Problem environment you currently use in
  environment Section except is prints and increments the counter for
  Lab.
 
  By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem
  environment instead of using Subsection.
 
 
 Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only
 use Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

What package?

 How would you make a Lab or Labproblem environment?

Depending on your prior LaTeX experience, this might sound like
gobblety gook to you...

You'd make your own Document Class, based on the one you're using now,
using a layout file. Within the layout file, you'd add environments of
your own. Your environments for Lab and Labproblem would maintain their
own counters.

But first things first. I honestly don't know how you want this thing
to look, and I have a feeling few others on this list know that either.
A prototype would make that crystal clear. Once the enhancement is
defined, the rest is just a little LaTeX wizardry.

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
 Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
  sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:
 
   On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
   Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

   I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering
   of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what?
   In your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered
   section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
  
 
  I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each
  section to start at 1.

 Ah-ha!

 Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how you
 *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and is much
 less prone to misunderstanding.

 You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
 showing how you'd like your MWE to look.


Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the exercises
in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue right now is
numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered continuously throughout the
book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it would also be ok if they were numbered
within chapters.




   Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
   instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
   that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts
   the same way as the Problem environment you currently use in
   environment Section except is prints and increments the counter for
   Lab.
  
   By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem
   environment instead of using Subsection.
  
 
  Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only
  use Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

 What package?


I'm using the Theorems (AMS, Numbered by Type) and Theorems (Numbered by
Type Within Section) modules. I think they actually might be LyX built-ins.

Thanks,
Jane


layout prototype.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
Jane Shevtsov  wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
> > >> start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
> > >> LaTeX magic,
> > but is
> > >> perfectly do-able.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
> >
> > Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
> >
> >
> Here's an example of what's happening now.
> 
> Best,
> Jane

Hi Jane,

I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering of
the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what? In
your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered section
2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.

This isn't a technical issue so much as an issue of understandability. 

Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts the
same way as the Problem environment you currently use in environment
Section except is prints and increments the counter for Lab.

By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem environment
instead of using Subsection. 

Let me go a step further. If I were writing this textbook, I would not
use Section or Section* at all in the interactive part of your book.
I'd make an environment called "Situation" or some such for what in
your example you use Section, and Lab for what in your example you
handle with Section*. That way:

1) You have complete control of behavior.

2) It much more faithfully adheres to what I call Styles-based layout,
and what a lot of LyX people called WYSIWYM.

What you're doing with Section and Section* right now are things those
environments were never intended to handle. Sure, you can get close,
but ultimately something will go wrong because those environments were
meant to handle normal document headings at the level just below
"Chapter".

Also, the more experience I get, the more I hate any use of Section*.
In the long run, Section* always makes me cry.

I wrote some content on making your own list environments here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm

HTH,

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
> Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
> > > >> start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
> > > >> LaTeX magic,
> > > but is
> > > >> perfectly do-able.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
> > >
> > > Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
> > > http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
> > >
> > >
> > Here's an example of what's happening now.
> Hi Jane,
>
> I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering of
> the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what? In
> your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered section
> 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
>

I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each section
to start at 1.

Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
> instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
> that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts the
> same way as the Problem environment you currently use in environment
> Section except is prints and increments the counter for Lab.
>
> By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem environment
> instead of using Subsection.
>

Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only use
Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

How would you make a Lab or Labproblem environment?

What you're doing with Section and Section* right now are things those
> environments were never intended to handle. Sure, you can get close,
> but ultimately something will go wrong because those environments were
> meant to handle normal document headings at the level just below
> "Chapter".
>

That's exactly how I'm using them. I didn't put a Chapter heading in the
minimal example, but the actual textbook has six chapters with several
sections in each.

Thanks,
Jane

-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:46:00 -0500
Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you
> >> start an unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of
> >> LaTeX magic, but is perfectly do-able.
> >
> >
> > Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
> 
> Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
> http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

That Wiki page is one of the coolest things I've run across. Eric
Raymond told us all to use MWEs, but really didn't tell us how or why.

I added two more reasons to the list of reasons on that page. Hope you
all like it.

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
Jane Shevtsov  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
> > Jane Shevtsov  wrote:

> > I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering
> > of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what?
> > In your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered
> > section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
> >
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each
> section to start at 1.

Ah-ha!

Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how you
*want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and is much
less prone to misunderstanding.

You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
showing how you'd like your MWE to look.

> 
> Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
> > instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
> > that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts
> > the same way as the Problem environment you currently use in
> > environment Section except is prints and increments the counter for
> > Lab.
> >
> > By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem
> > environment instead of using Subsection.
> >
> 
> Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only
> use Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)

What package?

> How would you make a Lab or Labproblem environment?

Depending on your prior LaTeX experience, this might sound like
gobblety gook to you...

You'd make your own Document Class, based on the one you're using now,
using a layout file. Within the layout file, you'd add environments of
your own. Your environments for Lab and Labproblem would maintain their
own counters.

But first things first. I honestly don't know how you want this thing
to look, and I have a feeling few others on this list know that either.
A prototype would make that crystal clear. Once the enhancement is
defined, the rest is just a little LaTeX wizardry.

SteveT

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:00:04 -0800
> Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Steve Litt
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:36:55 -0800
> > > Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
>
> > > I understand that you don't want problems to continue the numbering
> > > of the previous section, but if you reset them, reset them to what?
> > > In your example, if you reset the major number to 2, then numbered
> > > section 2 would be 3, which I doubt you want.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean. I just want problem numbers within each
> > section to start at 1.
>
> Ah-ha!
>
> Before we continue, I think you should send us a prototype of how you
> *want* this to look. On prototype is worth a thousand words and is much
> less prone to misunderstanding.
>
> You could do it with a text editor, using spaces for indentation,
> showing how you'd like your MWE to look.
>

Good idea! An example is attached. In the actual text, I put the exercises
in boxes to get a shaded background, but the only issue right now is
numbering. In my prototype, labs are numbered continuously throughout the
book (Lab 1 rather than Lab 1.1); it would also be ok if they were numbered
within chapters.



>
> > > Personally, I'd have a different numbering system for lab sections, so
> > > instead of environment Section *, I'd have an environment Lab
> > > that has its own counter, and an environment Labproblem that acts
> > > the same way as the Problem environment you currently use in
> > > environment Section except is prints and increments the counter for
> > > Lab.
> > >
> > > By the way, you did the right thing making your own Problem
> > > environment instead of using Subsection.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, but I actually didn't. That's a downloaded package. (I only
> > use Subsection for actual subsections of the text.)
>
> What package?
>

I'm using the "Theorems (AMS, Numbered by Type)" and "Theorems (Numbered by
Type Within Section)" modules. I think they actually might be LyX built-ins.

Thanks,
Jane


layout prototype.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Richard Heck]

On 02/12/2013 07:15 PM, Jane Shevtsov wrote:
I'm working on a textbook in which regular numbered sections are 
interspersed with unnumbered lab sections. I'm using the Theorems 
(Numbered by Type within Sections) package to number exercises but 
the numbering of exercises in a lab section is just a continuation of 
that in the previous numbered section. How do I get it to restart in 
each section, regardless of whether it's numbered?




Sorry, I'm confused. Maybe it would be easiest if you would post a very 
simple example file that is  trying to do what you want doesn't work.


If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an 
unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but 
is perfectly do-able.


Richard

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:


 If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
 unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but is
 perfectly do-able.


Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

Jane


-- 
-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:


 If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
 unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but is
 perfectly do-able.


 Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Best,

Scott

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.eduwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 
  If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
  unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic,
 but is
  perfectly do-able.
 
 
  Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

 Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
 http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE


Here's an example of what's happening now.

Best,
Jane

-- 
-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others


problem numbering MWE.lyx
Description: Binary data

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Richard Heck]

On 02/12/2013 07:15 PM, Jane Shevtsov wrote:
I'm working on a textbook in which regular numbered sections are 
interspersed with unnumbered lab sections. I'm using the Theorems 
(Numbered by Type within Sections) package to number exercises but 
the numbering of exercises in a lab section is just a continuation of 
that in the previous numbered section. How do I get it to restart in 
each section, regardless of whether it's numbered?




Sorry, I'm confused. Maybe it would be easiest if you would post a very 
simple example file that is  trying to do what you want doesn't work.


If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an 
unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but 
is perfectly do-able.


Richard

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:


 If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
 unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but is
 perfectly do-able.


Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

Jane


-- 
-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:


 If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
 unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but is
 perfectly do-able.


 Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Best,

Scott

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.eduwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov jane@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 
  If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
  unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic,
 but is
  perfectly do-able.
 
 
  Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

 Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
 http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE


Here's an example of what's happening now.

Best,
Jane

-- 
-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others


problem numbering MWE.lyx
Description: Binary data

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Richard Heck]

On 02/12/2013 07:15 PM, Jane Shevtsov wrote:
I'm working on a textbook in which regular numbered sections are 
interspersed with unnumbered lab sections. I'm using the "Theorems 
(Numbered by Type within Sections)" package to number exercises but 
the numbering of exercises in a lab section is just a continuation of 
that in the previous numbered section. How do I get it to restart in 
each section, regardless of whether it's numbered?




Sorry, I'm confused. Maybe it would be easiest if you would post a very 
simple example file that is  trying to do what you want doesn't work.


If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an 
unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but 
is perfectly do-able.


Richard

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:

>
> If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
> unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but is
> perfectly do-able.


Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

Jane


-- 
-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
>>
>>
>> If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
>> unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic, but is
>> perfectly do-able.
>
>
> Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?

Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE

Best,

Scott

Re: Exercise Numbering

[Jane Shevtsov]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jane Shevtsov  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Richard Heck  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> If what you want is for all the counters to reset even when you start an
> >> unnumbered section, then this will take a little bit of LaTeX magic,
> but is
> >> perfectly do-able.
> >
> >
> > Yep, that's what I want. What LaTeX code do I need?
>
> Hi Jane, could you please send post a Minimum Working Example? See
> http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MWE
>
>
Here's an example of what's happening now.

Best,
Jane

-- 
-
Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
Mathematical Biology Curriculum Writer, UCLA
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org

“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who are
doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw and others


problem numbering MWE.lyx
Description: Binary data