Inconsistencies in User Interface.
I'm a new lyx user. Often people get used to odd quirks in software, and get so that they don't notice them anymore, but to a newcomer they pinch and distract. I'll post periodically so that the design team can incorporate this into their 'to be fixed' list. Or in some cases, these may be FAQ candidates. 1. Inconsistent Cut and paste. This one drives me crazy. It may be a xforms issue rather than a lyx issue. Sometimes when I cut and paste either using C-X C-V or mark, middle button between another application and Lyx, I get instead some previous content of the paste buffer. Within Lyx it's almost as if each environment has it's own buffer. That is, I couldn't use cut and past to move stuff from within a nested environment to outside it. Whenever I pasted, I would get whatever I has last pasted in the the outer environment. 2. Different behaviour between Math mode and text mode for treating highlighted text. Suppose I want to specify the 21st of the month, and want the 'st' to be superscripted. In text mode, I highlight the 'st', then go Insert -Special Character -Superscript, it puts a superscript box in. I have to retype the 'st'in the box, and erase the 'st' on the main line. In math mode, if I click the appropriate box, then if there is no selected text, I get a new box, but if there is selected text, then it's contents become the superscript. 3. Within math mode transformations are opaque. Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. (My dream is to be able to type math as fast as I write it.) -- Sherwood Botsford 1-780-848-2881 Ext 134 St. John's School of AlbertaRR - 5 Stony Plain, Alberta TZ7 1X5 Alternate address sgbotsford@yahoo . com
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Sherwood Botsford wrote: 3. Within math mode transformations are opaque. Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. (My dream is to be able to type math as fast as I write it.) I don't know of a way to automatically rewrite it, but here are some tips that ought to make your math-typing quicker: C-m Start math mode M-m f Create a fraction (i.e. __ ) M-m ( Create a pair of () and also see here for an example of how it can be rewritten: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFrequentlyUsedShortcuts /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:11:38PM -0700, Sherwood Botsford wrote: I'm a new lyx user. Often people get used to odd quirks in software, and get so that they don't notice them anymore, but to a newcomer they pinch and distract. I'll post periodically so that the design team can incorporate this into their 'to be fixed' list. Excellent - this is certainly appreciated. 1. Inconsistent Cut and paste. This one drives me crazy. It may be a xforms issue rather than a lyx issue. Sometimes when I cut and paste either using C-X C-V or mark, middle button between another application and Lyx, I get instead some previous content of the paste buffer. Things are a bit fubar in this area, and requires a careful look at how we behave. The problems are reasonably well known. couldn't use cut and past to move stuff from within a nested environment to outside it. Whenever I pasted, I would get whatever I has last pasted in the the outer environment. But I haven't been seeing this... Suppose I want to specify the 21st of the month, and want the 'st' to be superscripted. In text mode, I highlight the 'st', then go Insert -Special Character -Superscript, it puts a superscript box in. I have to retype the 'st'in the box, Please file a specific bug for this case on http://bugzilla.lyx.org/ regards john
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:11:38PM -0700, Sherwood Botsford wrote: Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. Apart from the obvious, there is no way I am aware of. Well, if you have Maple installed, selecting it and 'M-x math-extern maple simplify' might do the trick in some cases, but I would not trust it. I think one could add a few lines to make 'marking it and pressing M-m f' work. Should I do that? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Inconsistencies in User Interface.
I'm a new lyx user. Often people get used to odd quirks in software, and get so that they don't notice them anymore, but to a newcomer they pinch and distract. I'll post periodically so that the design team can incorporate this into their 'to be fixed' list. Or in some cases, these may be FAQ candidates. 1. Inconsistent Cut and paste. This one drives me crazy. It may be a xforms issue rather than a lyx issue. Sometimes when I cut and paste either using C-X C-V or mark, middle button between another application and Lyx, I get instead some previous content of the paste buffer. Within Lyx it's almost as if each environment has it's own buffer. That is, I couldn't use cut and past to move stuff from within a nested environment to outside it. Whenever I pasted, I would get whatever I has last pasted in the the outer environment. 2. Different behaviour between Math mode and text mode for treating highlighted text. Suppose I want to specify the 21st of the month, and want the 'st' to be superscripted. In text mode, I highlight the 'st', then go Insert -Special Character -Superscript, it puts a superscript box in. I have to retype the 'st'in the box, and erase the 'st' on the main line. In math mode, if I click the appropriate box, then if there is no selected text, I get a new box, but if there is selected text, then it's contents become the superscript. 3. Within math mode transformations are opaque. Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. (My dream is to be able to type math as fast as I write it.) -- Sherwood Botsford 1-780-848-2881 Ext 134 St. John's School of AlbertaRR - 5 Stony Plain, Alberta TZ7 1X5 Alternate address sgbotsford@yahoo . com
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Sherwood Botsford wrote: 3. Within math mode transformations are opaque. Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. (My dream is to be able to type math as fast as I write it.) I don't know of a way to automatically rewrite it, but here are some tips that ought to make your math-typing quicker: C-m Start math mode M-m f Create a fraction (i.e. __ ) M-m ( Create a pair of () and also see here for an example of how it can be rewritten: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFrequentlyUsedShortcuts /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:11:38PM -0700, Sherwood Botsford wrote: I'm a new lyx user. Often people get used to odd quirks in software, and get so that they don't notice them anymore, but to a newcomer they pinch and distract. I'll post periodically so that the design team can incorporate this into their 'to be fixed' list. Excellent - this is certainly appreciated. 1. Inconsistent Cut and paste. This one drives me crazy. It may be a xforms issue rather than a lyx issue. Sometimes when I cut and paste either using C-X C-V or mark, middle button between another application and Lyx, I get instead some previous content of the paste buffer. Things are a bit fubar in this area, and requires a careful look at how we behave. The problems are reasonably well known. couldn't use cut and past to move stuff from within a nested environment to outside it. Whenever I pasted, I would get whatever I has last pasted in the the outer environment. But I haven't been seeing this... Suppose I want to specify the 21st of the month, and want the 'st' to be superscripted. In text mode, I highlight the 'st', then go Insert -Special Character -Superscript, it puts a superscript box in. I have to retype the 'st'in the box, Please file a specific bug for this case on http://bugzilla.lyx.org/ regards john
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:11:38PM -0700, Sherwood Botsford wrote: Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. Apart from the obvious, there is no way I am aware of. Well, if you have Maple installed, selecting it and 'M-x math-extern maple simplify' might do the trick in some cases, but I would not trust it. I think one could add a few lines to make 'marking it and pressing M-m f' work. Should I do that? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Inconsistencies in User Interface.
I'm a new lyx user. Often people get used to odd quirks in software, and get so that they don't notice them anymore, but to a newcomer they pinch and distract. I'll post periodically so that the design team can incorporate this into their 'to be fixed' list. Or in some cases, these may be FAQ candidates. 1. Inconsistent Cut and paste. This one drives me crazy. It may be a xforms issue rather than a lyx issue. Sometimes when I cut and paste either using C-X C-V or mark, middle button between another application and Lyx, I get instead some previous content of the paste buffer. Within Lyx it's almost as if each environment has it's own buffer. That is, I couldn't use cut and past to move stuff from within a nested environment to outside it. Whenever I pasted, I would get whatever I has last pasted in the the outer environment. 2. Different behaviour between Math mode and text mode for treating highlighted text. Suppose I want to specify the 21st of the month, and want the 'st' to be superscripted. In text mode, I highlight the 'st', then go Insert ->Special Character ->Superscript, it puts a superscript box in. I have to retype the 'st'in the box, and erase the 'st' on the main line. In math mode, if I click the appropriate box, then if there is no selected text, I get a new box, but if there is selected text, then it's contents become the superscript. 3. Within math mode transformations are opaque. Several times already I have found myself starting an expression a/(b+c) then decided afterward to rewrite it as a --- b + c I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. (My dream is to be able to type math as fast as I write it.) -- Sherwood Botsford 1-780-848-2881 Ext 134 St. John's School of AlbertaRR - 5 Stony Plain, Alberta TZ7 1X5 Alternate address sgbotsford@yahoo . com
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Sherwood Botsford wrote: > 3. Within math mode transformations are opaque. > Several times already I have found myself starting an expression > a/(b+c) > then decided afterward to rewrite it as > a > --- > b + c > > I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. > (My dream is to be able to type math as fast as I write it.) I don't know of a way to automatically rewrite it, but here are some tips that ought to make your math-typing quicker: C-m Start math mode M-m f Create a fraction (i.e. __ ) M-m ( Create a pair of () and also see here for an example of how it can be rewritten: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFrequentlyUsedShortcuts /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:11:38PM -0700, Sherwood Botsford wrote: > I'm a new lyx user. Often people get used to odd quirks in software, and > get so that they don't notice them anymore, but to a newcomer they pinch and > distract. I'll post periodically so that the design team can incorporate this > into their 'to be fixed' list. Excellent - this is certainly appreciated. > 1. Inconsistent Cut and paste. > This one drives me crazy. It may be a xforms issue rather than a lyx issue. > Sometimes when I cut and paste either using C-X C-V or mark, middle button > between another application and Lyx, I get instead some previous content of the > paste buffer. Things are a bit fubar in this area, and requires a careful look at how we behave. The problems are reasonably well known. > couldn't use cut and past to move stuff from within a nested environment to > outside it. Whenever I pasted, I would get whatever I has last pasted in the the > outer environment. But I haven't been seeing this... > Suppose I want to specify the 21st of the month, and want the 'st' to be > superscripted. In text mode, I highlight the 'st', then go Insert ->Special >Character > ->Superscript, it puts a superscript box in. I have to retype the 'st'in the box, Please file a specific bug for this case on http://bugzilla.lyx.org/ regards john
Re: Inconsistencies in User Interface.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:11:38PM -0700, Sherwood Botsford wrote: > Several times already I have found myself starting an expression > a/(b+c) > then decided afterward to rewrite it as > a > --- > b + c > > I've yet to find an easy and obvious way to do this. Apart from the obvious, there is no way I am aware of. Well, if you have Maple installed, selecting it and 'M-x math-extern maple simplify' might do the trick in some cases, but I would not trust it. I think one could add a few lines to make 'marking it and pressing M-m f' work. Should I do that? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
