Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Hi

In the thread Python Graphics in LyX it was shown nicely how other
programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
text files generated by these external code blocks?

Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
(I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

Cheers,

Rainer

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

  - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de Sent: 
Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:26 AM

  Hi

  In the thread Python Graphics in LyX it was shown nicely how other
  programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
  into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
  text files generated by these external code blocks?

  Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
  others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
  (I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

  Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

  Cheers,

  Rainer
Indeed! It can be produced as well, just define a python normal text file 
format type (as pytxt) and in the converter just add from the pytxt format to 
simple text format as python $$i $$o
in the python script you have to output everything to a text file using the 
lines
import sys
outputfile = open(sys.argv[1])
outputfile.write('testing')
outputfile.close

Voilá! it works with text too
Moreover in the converter you can define a csv output format and python handles 
well with csv, so I give you the rod, now fish something ;)

Cheers, Alex

Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu writes:

   - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de Sent: 
 Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:26 AM

   Hi

   In the thread Python Graphics in LyX it was shown nicely how other
   programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
   into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
   text files generated by these external code blocks?

   Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
   others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
   (I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

   Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

   Cheers,

   Rainer
 Indeed! It can be produced as well, just define a python normal text
 file format type (as pytxt) and in the converter just add from the
 pytxt format to simple text format as python $$i $$o
 in the python script you have to output everything to a text file using the 
 lines
 import sys
 outputfile = open(sys.argv[1])
 outputfile.write('testing')
 outputfile.close

 Voilá! it works with text too
 Moreover in the converter you can define a csv output format and
 python handles well with csv, so I give you the rod, now fish
 something ;)

As I said - I have missed something trivial.

Suggestion: could you add these cases to your document about graphs from
Python? Especially the csv might be very useful.

Cheers,

Rainer


 Cheers, Alex

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Better than ever
I've found that the pandas package in python handles with excel files and 
produces tables in csv too, so it can be used to read excel files as input, 
process a little and output csv tables which can be read by LyX as external 
documents (child)

The panorama becomes interesting!
Alex

Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu writes:

   - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de Sent: 
 Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:39 AM

   As I said - I have missed something trivial.

   Suggestion: could you add these cases to your document about graphs from
   Python? Especially the csv might be very useful.

   Cheers,

   Rainer
 I see, you have to insert them as external files, like they were child
 documents! LyX will try to open them and in the process they will be
 converted

But then it is inserted statically - this is not what I was thinking
about. I guess the approach to use would be to use the external
Material approach - but for this, one would have to define a new type. 

Or is there a way of dynamically linking a non-LyX or LaTeX file into a
LyX document, preferably with preview?

Cheers,

Rainer
 

 Alex


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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu writes:

 Better than ever
 I've found that the pandas package in python handles with excel files
 and produces tables in csv too, so it can be used to read excel files
 as input, process a little and output csv tables which can be read by
 LyX as external documents (child)
 The panorama becomes interesting!

OK - spreadsheets work via the external documents. But have you found
a way of including normal txt files as verbatim? One could always use
good old ert
(e.g. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=verbfile)

But this would not provide preview.

Rainer


 Alex



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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

  - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 
2014 9:09 AM
  OK - spreadsheets work via the external documents. But have you found
  a way of including normal txt files as verbatim? One could always use
  good old ert
  (e.g. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=verbfile)

  But this would not provide preview.

  Rainer
No, no preview in the case of text I fear. It should be implemented in the LyX 
code. Developers should handle this kind of things, if they already support 
image preview, why not supporting external material preview as well? They 
should answer this. TAIK!
Cheers
Alex

Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Hi

In the thread Python Graphics in LyX it was shown nicely how other
programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
text files generated by these external code blocks?

Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
(I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

Cheers,

Rainer

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UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

  - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de Sent: 
Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:26 AM

  Hi

  In the thread Python Graphics in LyX it was shown nicely how other
  programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
  into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
  text files generated by these external code blocks?

  Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
  others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
  (I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

  Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

  Cheers,

  Rainer
Indeed! It can be produced as well, just define a python normal text file 
format type (as pytxt) and in the converter just add from the pytxt format to 
simple text format as python $$i $$o
in the python script you have to output everything to a text file using the 
lines
import sys
outputfile = open(sys.argv[1])
outputfile.write('testing')
outputfile.close

Voilá! it works with text too
Moreover in the converter you can define a csv output format and python handles 
well with csv, so I give you the rod, now fish something ;)

Cheers, Alex

Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu writes:

   - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de Sent: 
 Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:26 AM

   Hi

   In the thread Python Graphics in LyX it was shown nicely how other
   programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
   into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
   text files generated by these external code blocks?

   Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
   others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
   (I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

   Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

   Cheers,

   Rainer
 Indeed! It can be produced as well, just define a python normal text
 file format type (as pytxt) and in the converter just add from the
 pytxt format to simple text format as python $$i $$o
 in the python script you have to output everything to a text file using the 
 lines
 import sys
 outputfile = open(sys.argv[1])
 outputfile.write('testing')
 outputfile.close

 Voilá! it works with text too
 Moreover in the converter you can define a csv output format and
 python handles well with csv, so I give you the rod, now fish
 something ;)

As I said - I have missed something trivial.

Suggestion: could you add these cases to your document about graphs from
Python? Especially the csv might be very useful.

Cheers,

Rainer


 Cheers, Alex

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Better than ever
I've found that the pandas package in python handles with excel files and 
produces tables in csv too, so it can be used to read excel files as input, 
process a little and output csv tables which can be read by LyX as external 
documents (child)

The panorama becomes interesting!
Alex

Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu writes:

   - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de Sent: 
 Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:39 AM

   As I said - I have missed something trivial.

   Suggestion: could you add these cases to your document about graphs from
   Python? Especially the csv might be very useful.

   Cheers,

   Rainer
 I see, you have to insert them as external files, like they were child
 documents! LyX will try to open them and in the process they will be
 converted

But then it is inserted statically - this is not what I was thinking
about. I guess the approach to use would be to use the external
Material approach - but for this, one would have to define a new type. 

Or is there a way of dynamically linking a non-LyX or LaTeX file into a
LyX document, preferably with preview?

Cheers,

Rainer
 

 Alex


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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu writes:

 Better than ever
 I've found that the pandas package in python handles with excel files
 and produces tables in csv too, so it can be used to read excel files
 as input, process a little and output csv tables which can be read by
 LyX as external documents (child)
 The panorama becomes interesting!

OK - spreadsheets work via the external documents. But have you found
a way of including normal txt files as verbatim? One could always use
good old ert
(e.g. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=verbfile)

But this would not provide preview.

Rainer


 Alex



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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

  - Original Message - From: Rainer M Krug Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 
2014 9:09 AM
  OK - spreadsheets work via the external documents. But have you found
  a way of including normal txt files as verbatim? One could always use
  good old ert
  (e.g. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=verbfile)

  But this would not provide preview.

  Rainer
No, no preview in the case of text I fear. It should be implemented in the LyX 
code. Developers should handle this kind of things, if they already support 
image preview, why not supporting external material preview as well? They 
should answer this. TAIK!
Cheers
Alex

Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

Hi

In the thread "Python Graphics in LyX" it was shown nicely how other
programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
text files generated by these external code blocks?

Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
(I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

Cheers,

Rainer

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

  - Original Message - From: "Rainer M Krug"  Sent: 
Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:26 AM

  Hi

  In the thread "Python Graphics in LyX" it was shown nicely how other
  programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
  into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
  text files generated by these external code blocks?

  Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
  others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
  (I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?

  Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...

  Cheers,

  Rainer
Indeed! It can be produced as well, just define a python normal text file 
format type (as pytxt) and in the converter just add from the pytxt format to 
simple text format as python $$i $$o
in the python script you have to output everything to a text file using the 
lines
import sys
outputfile = open(sys.argv[1])
outputfile.write('testing')
outputfile.close

Voilá! it works with text too
Moreover in the converter you can define a csv output format and python handles 
well with csv, so I give you the rod, now fish something ;)

Cheers, Alex

Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

"Alex Vergara Gil"  writes:

>   - Original Message - From: "Rainer M Krug"  Sent: 
> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:26 AM
>
>   Hi
>
>   In the thread "Python Graphics in LyX" it was shown nicely how other
>   programming languages can be used to include grahics generated by these
>   into a LyX Document. That made me thinking: How can I do the same for
>   text files generated by these external code blocks?
>
>   Obviously, this depends on the format of the text (ascii, LaTeX,
>   others?). What would be the workflow? Does the text has to be in a file
>   (I assume) or could it be redirected directly into LyX?
>
>   Somehow I have the feeling I am missing something trivial here...
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Rainer
> Indeed! It can be produced as well, just define a python normal text
> file format type (as pytxt) and in the converter just add from the
> pytxt format to simple text format as python $$i $$o
> in the python script you have to output everything to a text file using the 
> lines
> import sys
> outputfile = open(sys.argv[1])
> outputfile.write('testing')
> outputfile.close
>
> Voilá! it works with text too
> Moreover in the converter you can define a csv output format and
> python handles well with csv, so I give you the rod, now fish
> something ;)

As I said - I have missed something trivial.

Suggestion: could you add these cases to your document about graphs from
Python? Especially the csv might be very useful.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
> Cheers, Alex

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

Better than ever
I've found that the pandas package in python handles with excel files and 
produces tables in csv too, so it can be used to read excel files as input, 
process a little and output csv tables which can be read by LyX as external 
documents (child)

The panorama becomes interesting!
Alex

Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

"Alex Vergara Gil"  writes:

>   - Original Message - From: "Rainer M Krug"  Sent: 
> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:39 AM
>
>   As I said - I have missed something trivial.
>
>   Suggestion: could you add these cases to your document about graphs from
>   Python? Especially the csv might be very useful.
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Rainer
> I see, you have to insert them as external files, like they were child
> documents! LyX will try to open them and in the process they will be
> converted

But then it is inserted statically - this is not what I was thinking
about. I guess the approach to use would be to use the "external
Material" approach - but for this, one would have to define a new type. 

Or is there a way of dynamically linking a non-LyX or LaTeX file into a
LyX document, preferably with preview?

Cheers,

Rainer
 
>
> Alex
>

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Rainer M Krug]

"Alex Vergara Gil"  writes:

> Better than ever
> I've found that the pandas package in python handles with excel files
> and produces tables in csv too, so it can be used to read excel files
> as input, process a little and output csv tables which can be read by
> LyX as external documents (child)
> The panorama becomes interesting!

OK - spreadsheets work via the "external documents". But have you found
a way of including "normal" txt files as verbatim? One could always use
good old ert
(e.g. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=verbfile)

But this would not provide preview.

Rainer


> Alex
>
>

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Re: Inserting text (instead of graphics) from code into LyX?

[Alex Vergara Gil]

  - Original Message - From: "Rainer M Krug" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 
2014 9:09 AM
  OK - spreadsheets work via the "external documents". But have you found
  a way of including "normal" txt files as verbatim? One could always use
  good old ert
  (e.g. http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=verbfile)

  But this would not provide preview.

  Rainer
No, no preview in the case of text I fear. It should be implemented in the LyX 
code. Developers should handle this kind of things, if they already support 
image preview, why not supporting external material preview as well? They 
should answer this. TAIK!
Cheers
Alex