Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier


Hi all,

I've been using LyX for quite some time now (since pre-1.0 days) and I 
absolutely love it.  However, in using it, I've gotten the distinct feeling 
that I'd appreciate it even more if I knew LaTeX itself.  I guess it has to do 
with my insatiable curiosity about how things work :)

So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 
LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
pre-LyX era, where do I begin?

Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning 
how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to 
figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)

Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

Thanks a lot,


-- 
Seeya,
Paul

   I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear!

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote:

 So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 

If you're using some unix and some reasonable LaTeX distribution, the
distribution should come with reasonable set of documentation. For
example, in this RedHat system with teTeX the documentation is under
directory /usr/share/texmf/doc/. Probably one of the best documents to
start reading is /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/general/essential.dvi, or look
other documents in /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/general/. You may read dvi
files with xdvi. If your system is different, try looking for
documentation with "locate essential" or something.




Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Jan Goebel

Hello, 

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote:

 So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 
 LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
 pre-LyX era, where do I begin?
 
 Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning 
 how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to 
 figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)
 
 Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

Don't be afraid, LaTeX isn't so complicated as it seems, at least for 
easy documents. So export an document in lyx to LaTeX and look at it 
in the emacs (did xou have auctex installed, is lovely) and i guess
you understand a lot. And then learning by doing :)

Best wishes 

jan

-- 
+---
 Jan Goebel (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

 DIW Berlin 
 Longitudinal Data and Microanalysis
 Königin-Luise-Str. 5
 D-14195 Berlin -- Germany --
 phone: 49 30 89789-377
+---



Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Herbert Voss

Paul Lussier wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been using LyX for quite some time now (since pre-1.0 days) and I
 absolutely love it.  However, in using it, I've gotten the distinct feeling
 that I'd appreciate it even more if I knew LaTeX itself.  I guess it has to do
 with my insatiable curiosity about how things work :)
 
 So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning
 LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
 pre-LyX era, where do I begin?
 
 Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning
 how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to
 figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)
 
 Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

my way was to write from the beginning with lyx :-), too. and
than i solved all the special latex problems only with the book
of kopka (maybe that there is an english translation) and the rest
with the newsgroups:
de.comp.text.tex  (the german one)
comp.text.tex (the english one) 

Herbert


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/




Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Phil Scordis


 my way was to write from the beginning with lyx :-), too. and
 than i solved all the special latex problems only with the book
 of kopka (maybe that there is an english translation) and the rest
 with the newsgroups:
 de.comp.text.tex  (the german one)
 comp.text.tex (the english one) 
 
 Herbert

There is indeed an english translation for the Kopka and Daly book "A
Guide to Latex 2e", and I found the second edition (published by Addison
Wesley) an excelent way to learn latex, as did the majority of my
collegues. There is now a third edition available.

-
  Phil Scordis
   Room 2.19, School of Biological Sciences, Stopford Building
University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PT
-





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier



Thank you all for you input.  For now I will read the essential.dvi document, 
and try looking at some of my LyX documents with (X)Emacs and AucTeX.

Soon, I will get copies of both Lamport and Kopka.

Thank you all again, I appreciate your help!

-- 
Seeya,
Paul

   I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear!

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Laurent DUVAL

Since lyx performs most of the basic tasks, you'll probably need
more latex-tips than actual latex by itself.

A nice FAQ in French
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/FAQ-LaTeX/

Some help in English
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/latex/

Don't forget H. Voss' Tips, which heavily rely on LaTeX
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/Informatik/LyXTips.html

But if you REALLY are curious about how things work, you'd
probably wanna dive into TeX ITSELF.
Then, good luck...





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

 So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
 pre-LyX era, where do I begin?

Get yourself a good book like the "LaTeX Companion" or Kopka's
"Einfuehrung" (don't know whether this is available in English).
Have a look at   www.ctan.whatever.

Andre'

PS:

 Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs,

Apage! You won't get advice on this from me ;-)


-- 
André Pönitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier


Hi all,

I've been using LyX for quite some time now (since pre-1.0 days) and I 
absolutely love it.  However, in using it, I've gotten the distinct feeling 
that I'd appreciate it even more if I knew LaTeX itself.  I guess it has to do 
with my insatiable curiosity about how things work :)

So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 
LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
pre-LyX era, where do I begin?

Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning 
how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to 
figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)

Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

Thanks a lot,


-- 
Seeya,
Paul

   I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear!

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote:

 So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 

If you're using some unix and some reasonable LaTeX distribution, the
distribution should come with reasonable set of documentation. For
example, in this RedHat system with teTeX the documentation is under
directory /usr/share/texmf/doc/. Probably one of the best documents to
start reading is /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/general/essential.dvi, or look
other documents in /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/general/. You may read dvi
files with xdvi. If your system is different, try looking for
documentation with "locate essential" or something.




Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Jan Goebel

Hello, 

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote:

 So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 
 LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
 pre-LyX era, where do I begin?
 
 Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning 
 how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to 
 figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)
 
 Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

Don't be afraid, LaTeX isn't so complicated as it seems, at least for 
easy documents. So export an document in lyx to LaTeX and look at it 
in the emacs (did xou have auctex installed, is lovely) and i guess
you understand a lot. And then learning by doing :)

Best wishes 

jan

-- 
+---
 Jan Goebel (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

 DIW Berlin 
 Longitudinal Data and Microanalysis
 Königin-Luise-Str. 5
 D-14195 Berlin -- Germany --
 phone: 49 30 89789-377
+---



Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Herbert Voss

Paul Lussier wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've been using LyX for quite some time now (since pre-1.0 days) and I
 absolutely love it.  However, in using it, I've gotten the distinct feeling
 that I'd appreciate it even more if I knew LaTeX itself.  I guess it has to do
 with my insatiable curiosity about how things work :)
 
 So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning
 LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
 pre-LyX era, where do I begin?
 
 Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning
 how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to
 figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)
 
 Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

my way was to write from the beginning with lyx :-), too. and
than i solved all the special latex problems only with the book
of kopka (maybe that there is an english translation) and the rest
with the newsgroups:
de.comp.text.tex  (the german one)
comp.text.tex (the english one) 

Herbert


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/




Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Phil Scordis


 my way was to write from the beginning with lyx :-), too. and
 than i solved all the special latex problems only with the book
 of kopka (maybe that there is an english translation) and the rest
 with the newsgroups:
 de.comp.text.tex  (the german one)
 comp.text.tex (the english one) 
 
 Herbert

There is indeed an english translation for the Kopka and Daly book "A
Guide to Latex 2e", and I found the second edition (published by Addison
Wesley) an excelent way to learn latex, as did the majority of my
collegues. There is now a third edition available.

-
  Phil Scordis
   Room 2.19, School of Biological Sciences, Stopford Building
University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PT
-





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier



Thank you all for you input.  For now I will read the essential.dvi document, 
and try looking at some of my LyX documents with (X)Emacs and AucTeX.

Soon, I will get copies of both Lamport and Kopka.

Thank you all again, I appreciate your help!

-- 
Seeya,
Paul

   I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear!

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Laurent DUVAL

Since lyx performs most of the basic tasks, you'll probably need
more latex-tips than actual latex by itself.

A nice FAQ in French
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/FAQ-LaTeX/

Some help in English
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/latex/

Don't forget H. Voss' Tips, which heavily rely on LaTeX
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/Informatik/LyXTips.html

But if you REALLY are curious about how things work, you'd
probably wanna dive into TeX ITSELF.
Then, good luck...





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

 So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
 pre-LyX era, where do I begin?

Get yourself a good book like the "LaTeX Companion" or Kopka's
"Einfuehrung" (don't know whether this is available in English).
Have a look at   www.ctan.whatever.

Andre'

PS:

 Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs,

Apage! You won't get advice on this from me ;-)


-- 
André Pönitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier


Hi all,

I've been using LyX for quite some time now (since pre-1.0 days) and I 
absolutely love it.  However, in using it, I've gotten the distinct feeling 
that I'd appreciate it even more if I knew LaTeX itself.  I guess it has to do 
with my insatiable curiosity about how things work :)

So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 
LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
pre-LyX era, where do I begin?

Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning 
how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to 
figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)

Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

Thanks a lot,


-- 
Seeya,
Paul

   I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear!

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Tuukka Toivonen

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote:

> So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 

If you're using some unix and some reasonable LaTeX distribution, the
distribution should come with reasonable set of documentation. For
example, in this RedHat system with teTeX the documentation is under
directory /usr/share/texmf/doc/. Probably one of the best documents to
start reading is /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/general/essential.dvi, or look
other documents in /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/general/. You may read dvi
files with xdvi. If your system is different, try looking for
documentation with "locate essential" or something.




Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Jan Goebel

Hello, 

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote:

> So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning 
> LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
> pre-LyX era, where do I begin?
> 
> Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning 
> how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to 
> figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)
> 
> Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

Don't be afraid, LaTeX isn't so complicated as it seems, at least for 
easy documents. So export an document in lyx to LaTeX and look at it 
in the emacs (did xou have auctex installed, is lovely) and i guess
you understand a lot. And then learning by doing :)

Best wishes 

jan

-- 
+---
 Jan Goebel (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

 DIW Berlin 
 Longitudinal Data and Microanalysis
 Königin-Luise-Str. 5
 D-14195 Berlin -- Germany --
 phone: 49 30 89789-377
+---



Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Herbert Voss

Paul Lussier wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been using LyX for quite some time now (since pre-1.0 days) and I
> absolutely love it.  However, in using it, I've gotten the distinct feeling
> that I'd appreciate it even more if I knew LaTeX itself.  I guess it has to do
> with my insatiable curiosity about how things work :)
> 
> So, I want to learn LaTeX.  I don't plan on becoming an expert, or abandoning
> LyX, though.  So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
> pre-LyX era, where do I begin?
> 
> Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs, so I'm also interested in learning
> how to LaTeX within Emacs.  I think the learning LaTeX seems to be easier to
> figure out than how to do it with Emacs :)
> 
> Any good pointers on where to find an Intro to LaTeX with Emacs?

my way was to write from the beginning with lyx :-), too. and
than i solved all the special latex problems only with the book
of kopka (maybe that there is an english translation) and the rest
with the newsgroups:
de.comp.text.tex  (the german one)
comp.text.tex (the english one) 

Herbert


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/lyx/




Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Phil Scordis


> my way was to write from the beginning with lyx :-), too. and
> than i solved all the special latex problems only with the book
> of kopka (maybe that there is an english translation) and the rest
> with the newsgroups:
> de.comp.text.tex  (the german one)
> comp.text.tex (the english one) 
> 
> Herbert

There is indeed an english translation for the Kopka and Daly book "A
Guide to Latex 2e", and I found the second edition (published by Addison
Wesley) an excelent way to learn latex, as did the majority of my
collegues. There is now a third edition available.

-
  Phil Scordis
   Room 2.19, School of Biological Sciences, Stopford Building
University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PT
-





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Lussier



Thank you all for you input.  For now I will read the essential.dvi document, 
and try looking at some of my LyX documents with (X)Emacs and AucTeX.

Soon, I will get copies of both Lamport and Kopka.

Thank you all again, I appreciate your help!

-- 
Seeya,
Paul

   I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear!

 If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Laurent DUVAL

Since lyx performs most of the basic tasks, you'll probably need
more latex-tips than actual latex by itself.

A nice FAQ in French
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/FAQ-LaTeX/

Some help in English
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/latex/

Don't forget H. Voss' Tips, which heavily rely on LaTeX
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/Informatik/LyXTips.html

But if you REALLY are curious about how things work, you'd
probably wanna dive into TeX ITSELF.
Then, good luck...





Re: Learning LaTeX, where do I begin?

2000-11-15 Thread Andre Poenitz

> So, I ask you fellow LyX'ers who have been LaTeX'ing since the
> pre-LyX era, where do I begin?

Get yourself a good book like the "LaTeX Companion" or Kopka's
"Einfuehrung" (don't know whether this is available in English).
Have a look at   www.ctan.whatever.

Andre'

PS:

> Of course, my editor of choice is Emacs,

Apage! You won't get advice on this from me ;-)


-- 
André Pönitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]