Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Paul Tremblay wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:56AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with real text. You can find that environment in this catalog: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/ (you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc) I can't get this to work. I copied outline.inc to my .lyx/layouts and put an include statement in my stdlayout.inc. LyX gives me the style name Notes. But I get an error when I try to preview in DVI: Environment note_l to definfed When I export my file to LaTeX, I notice that nothing in the preamble is getting put there. There is not note environment. Thanks Paul I'm not sure if you're trying to convert note insets, or the hack-environment I put together, but if it's the hack, then try this file: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/outline_notes/test_stuff.lyx you should get this output: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/outline_notes/test_stuff.pdf Otherwise, let me know or send an example (you can send if privately if you prefer) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Paul Tremblay wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:56AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with real text. You can find that environment in this catalog: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/ (you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc) I can't get this to work. I copied outline.inc to my .lyx/layouts and put an include statement in my stdlayout.inc. LyX gives me the style name Notes. But I get an error when I try to preview in DVI: Environment note_l to definfed When I export my file to LaTeX, I notice that nothing in the preamble is getting put there. There is not note environment. Thanks Paul I'm not sure if you're trying to convert note insets, or the hack-environment I put together, but if it's the hack, then try this file: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/outline_notes/test_stuff.lyx you should get this output: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/outline_notes/test_stuff.pdf Otherwise, let me know or send an example (you can send if privately if you prefer) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Paul Tremblay wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:56AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > > > I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my > > thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with "real" text. > > > > You can find that environment in this catalog: > > http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/ > > > > (you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify > > your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc) > > I can't get this to work. I copied outline.inc to my .lyx/layouts and > put an include statement in my stdlayout.inc. > > LyX gives me the style name "Notes". But I get an error when I try to > preview in DVI: > > "Environment note_l to definfed" > > When I export my file to LaTeX, I notice that nothing in the preamble is > getting put there. There is not note environment. > > Thanks > > Paul > > I'm not sure if you're trying to convert note insets, or the hack-environment I put together, but if it's the hack, then try this file: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/outline_notes/test_stuff.lyx you should get this output: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/outline_notes/test_stuff.pdf Otherwise, let me know or send an example (you can send if privately if you prefer) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian note), Why figure? You lost me... Christian Sorry, I meant float.. see Christian http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html A few ideas about notes: - we have a bug open about colored notes: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97 - it might be a good idea to merge all notes (foot-, margin- and plain) together and have a way to customize them with a properties dialog. - it may be a good idea to look at the various notes-related packages on ctan, like: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/footmisc.html http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/comment.html http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/verbatim.html There are probably many others. It would be a good idea to design what we want around some existing latex functionality. JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:56AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
Check out this thread, it's basically about modifying the lyx-script in
order to convert the note environment into a margin environment.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=102747712138781w=2
The solution I'm using is based on the Comment environment instead,
where I use
\usepackage{comment}
\includecomment{comment}
in the preamble which will print the comments.
I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my
thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with real text.
You can find that environment in this catalog:
http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/
(you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify
your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc)
I can't get this to work. I copied outline.inc to my .lyx/layouts and
put an include statement in my stdlayout.inc.
LyX gives me the style name Notes. But I get an error when I try to
preview in DVI:
Environment note_l to definfed
When I export my file to LaTeX, I notice that nothing in the preamble is
getting put there. There is not note environment.
Thanks
Paul
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
--
*Paul Tremblay *
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian note), Why figure? You lost me... Christian Sorry, I meant float.. see Christian http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html A few ideas about notes: - we have a bug open about colored notes: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97 - it might be a good idea to merge all notes (foot-, margin- and plain) together and have a way to customize them with a properties dialog. - it may be a good idea to look at the various notes-related packages on ctan, like: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/footmisc.html http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/comment.html http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/verbatim.html There are probably many others. It would be a good idea to design what we want around some existing latex functionality. JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:56AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
Check out this thread, it's basically about modifying the lyx-script in
order to convert the note environment into a margin environment.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=102747712138781w=2
The solution I'm using is based on the Comment environment instead,
where I use
\usepackage{comment}
\includecomment{comment}
in the preamble which will print the comments.
I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my
thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with real text.
You can find that environment in this catalog:
http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/
(you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify
your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc)
I can't get this to work. I copied outline.inc to my .lyx/layouts and
put an include statement in my stdlayout.inc.
LyX gives me the style name Notes. But I get an error when I try to
preview in DVI:
Environment note_l to definfed
When I export my file to LaTeX, I notice that nothing in the preamble is
getting put there. There is not note environment.
Thanks
Paul
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
--
*Paul Tremblay *
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
Re: Lyx notes printing?
> "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> > "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Christian> A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian> note), >> Why figure? You lost me... >> Christian> Sorry, I meant float.. see Christian> http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html A few ideas about notes: - we have a bug open about colored notes: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97 - it might be a good idea to merge all notes (foot-, margin- and plain) together and have a way to customize them with a properties dialog. - it may be a good idea to look at the various notes-related packages on ctan, like: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/footmisc.html http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/comment.html http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/verbatim.html There are probably many others. It would be a good idea to design what we want around some existing latex functionality. JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:56AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote:
>
> Check out this thread, it's basically about modifying the lyx-script in
> order to convert the note environment into a margin environment.
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-users=102747712138781=2
>
> The solution I'm using is based on the Comment environment instead,
> where I use
> \usepackage{comment}
> \includecomment{comment}
> in the preamble which will print the comments.
>
>
> I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my
> thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with "real" text.
>
> You can find that environment in this catalog:
> http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/
>
> (you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify
> your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc)
I can't get this to work. I copied outline.inc to my .lyx/layouts and
put an include statement in my stdlayout.inc.
LyX gives me the style name "Notes". But I get an error when I try to
preview in DVI:
"Environment note_l to definfed"
When I export my file to LaTeX, I notice that nothing in the preamble is
getting put there. There is not note environment.
Thanks
Paul
>
> If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
> \excludecomment{contentCmt}
> in the preamble
>
> /Christian
>
> --
> Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
> Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
>
>
--
*Paul Tremblay *
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote:
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
This is great Christian! Thanks a lot for sending this out.. It's very
useful.. I made a minor change in outline.inc so that the end of the
note will look similar to the start with a Note: End..
you're welcome... but this reminds me:
Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset?
Are there any plans for making that printable in the future?
About the environment I hacked, any improvements are welcome since I've
never really worked in pure latex before.
What I'd really like is to get a gray background (or yellow in a color
print) in the printout. Does anybody know how to do this?
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset? To have some parts of the text that are viewable but not printable. See this as the equivalent of the % character in latex (comment). Christian Are there any plans for making that printable in the Christian future? There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. I think that the last two will not happen soon, since as soon as this is implemented, people will find a lot of `creative' uses of this and demand new features :) So such a feature requires a lot of planning. JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:03:08AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset? Currently it is used for quite a lot of user level hacks.. Are there any plans for making that printable in the future? I'd rather think we will have user defined environments... Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset? To have some parts of the text that are viewable but not printable. See this as the equivalent of the % character in latex (comment). I see.. thanks Christian Are there any plans for making that printable in the Christian future? There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. Is this something like an enhancement proposal suitable for bugzilla? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. Is this something like an enhancement proposal suitable for bugzilla? No idea really, but I think (as Jean-Marc) said before, that it makes sense to discuss this first. Maybe there already is an entry? Anyway, I'll check if there's an entry for this and otherwise send it in. Until someone decides to handle this, I'll be happy to take opinions and put them together (unless people would prefer to directly edit the .lyx-file: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.lyx and send me the new version) /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
How about turn it into footnote? Max --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. I think that the last two will not happen soon, since as soon as this is implemented, people will find a lot of `creative' uses of this and demand new features :) So such a feature requires a lot of planning. JMarc __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Max == Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Max == Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin note), but how can I control wether the footnote prints or not? I would also like some indication that this is note is not always supposed to be printed, i.e. in the final version. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian note), Why figure? You lost me... JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian note), Why figure? You lost me... Sorry, I meant float.. see http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
It is only useful if it can be turn on and off easily. Max --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max == Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) JMarc __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:03:49PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? The same way as Acrobat and Word deal with their comments and notes -- printing all of them behind the end of the document. Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Opinions founded on prejudice are always sustained with the greatest violence. -- Hebrew Proverb
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:03:49PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? The same way as Acrobat and Word deal with their comments and notes -- printing all of them behind the end of the document. Thank's, didn't know that. I've added that alternative as well to http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html It certainly sounds like a relatively straight forward way to implement, so maybe you are only left with wanting to have really short notes appear on the actual page as a footnote or a margin note. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote:
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
This is great Christian! Thanks a lot for sending this out.. It's very
useful.. I made a minor change in outline.inc so that the end of the
note will look similar to the start with a Note: End..
you're welcome... but this reminds me:
Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset?
Are there any plans for making that printable in the future?
About the environment I hacked, any improvements are welcome since I've
never really worked in pure latex before.
What I'd really like is to get a gray background (or yellow in a color
print) in the printout. Does anybody know how to do this?
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset? To have some parts of the text that are viewable but not printable. See this as the equivalent of the % character in latex (comment). Christian Are there any plans for making that printable in the Christian future? There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. I think that the last two will not happen soon, since as soon as this is implemented, people will find a lot of `creative' uses of this and demand new features :) So such a feature requires a lot of planning. JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:03:08AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset? Currently it is used for quite a lot of user level hacks.. Are there any plans for making that printable in the future? I'd rather think we will have user defined environments... Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Does anybody know what the purpose is of the Note inset? To have some parts of the text that are viewable but not printable. See this as the equivalent of the % character in latex (comment). I see.. thanks Christian Are there any plans for making that printable in the Christian future? There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. Is this something like an enhancement proposal suitable for bugzilla? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. Is this something like an enhancement proposal suitable for bugzilla? No idea really, but I think (as Jean-Marc) said before, that it makes sense to discuss this first. Maybe there already is an entry? Anyway, I'll check if there's an entry for this and otherwise send it in. Until someone decides to handle this, I'll be happy to take opinions and put them together (unless people would prefer to directly edit the .lyx-file: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.lyx and send me the new version) /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
How about turn it into footnote? Max --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. I think that the last two will not happen soon, since as soon as this is implemented, people will find a lot of `creative' uses of this and demand new features :) So such a feature requires a lot of planning. JMarc __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Max == Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Max == Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin note), but how can I control wether the footnote prints or not? I would also like some indication that this is note is not always supposed to be printed, i.e. in the final version. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian note), Why figure? You lost me... JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian note), Why figure? You lost me... Sorry, I meant float.. see http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
It is only useful if it can be turn on and off easily. Max --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max == Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) JMarc __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:03:49PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? The same way as Acrobat and Word deal with their comments and notes -- printing all of them behind the end of the document. Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Opinions founded on prejudice are always sustained with the greatest violence. -- Hebrew Proverb
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:03:49PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? The same way as Acrobat and Word deal with their comments and notes -- printing all of them behind the end of the document. Thank's, didn't know that. I've added that alternative as well to http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html It certainly sounds like a relatively straight forward way to implement, so maybe you are only left with wanting to have really short notes appear on the actual page as a footnote or a margin note. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Nirmal Govind wrote:
> > If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
> > \excludecomment{contentCmt}
> > in the preamble
> >
> > /Christian
> >
>
> This is great Christian! Thanks a lot for sending this out.. It's very
> useful.. I made a minor change in outline.inc so that the end of the
> note will look similar to the start with a "Note: End"..
>
you're welcome... but this reminds me:
Does anybody know what the purpose is of the "Note" inset?
Are there any plans for making that printable in the future?
About the environment I hacked, any improvements are welcome since I've
never really worked in pure latex before.
What I'd really like is to get a gray background (or yellow in a color
print) in the printout. Does anybody know how to do this?
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
> "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> Does anybody know what the purpose is of the "Note" inset? To have some parts of the text that are viewable but not printable. See this as the equivalent of the % character in latex (comment). Christian> Are there any plans for making that printable in the Christian> future? There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the subjects. Ideas include - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, but there are some problems to solve) - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with a certain tag. I think that the last two will not happen soon, since as soon as this is implemented, people will find a lot of `creative' uses of this and demand new features :) So such a feature requires a lot of planning. JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:03:08AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > Does anybody know what the purpose is of the "Note" inset? Currently it is used for quite a lot of user level hacks.. > Are there any plans for making that printable in the future? I'd rather think we will have user defined environments... Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> Does anybody know what the purpose is of the "Note" inset? > > To have some parts of the text that are viewable but not printable. > See this as the equivalent of the % character in latex (comment). > I see.. thanks > Christian> Are there any plans for making that printable in the > Christian> future? > > There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the > subjects. Ideas include > > - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, > but there are some problems to solve) > - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) > - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with > a certain tag. > Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): See http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there instead. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept > and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): > > See > > http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ > > instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there > instead. Is this something like an "enhancement" proposal suitable for bugzilla? Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > Some additional thoughts I've had about notes (intended to be kept > > and reread when this issue is discussed in the future): > > > > See > > > > http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/ > > > > instead, it became longer than I thought and I decided to put it there > > instead. > > Is this something like an "enhancement" proposal suitable for bugzilla? > No idea really, but I think (as Jean-Marc) said before, that it makes sense to discuss this first. Maybe there already is an entry? Anyway, I'll check if there's an entry for this and otherwise send it in. Until someone decides to handle this, I'll be happy to take opinions and put them together (unless people would prefer to directly edit the .lyx-file: http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.lyx and send me the new version) /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
How about turn it into footnote? Max --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are no concrete plans, but there have been discussions on the > subjects. Ideas include > > - export notes as % latex comments (this should not be too difficult, > but there are some problems to solve) > - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) > - have the possiblity to give tags to notes, ad print only notes with > a certain tag. > > I think that the last two will not happen soon, since as soon as this > is implemented, people will find a lot of `creative' uses of this and > demand new features :) So such a feature requires a lot of planning. > > > JMarc > > __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: Lyx notes printing?
> "Max" == Max Bian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> How about turn it into footnote? Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Max" == Max Bian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Max> How about turn it into footnote? > > Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) > A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin note), but how can I control wether the footnote prints or not? I would also like some indication that this is note is not always supposed to be printed, i.e. in the final version. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
> "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin Christian> note), Why figure? You lost me... JMarc
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On 7 Nov 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> A footnote is an alternative (as well as figure and margin > Christian> note), > > Why figure? You lost me... > Sorry, I meant float.. see http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Give your heartache to him. (1Pt 5,7; Mt 11:28-30)
Re: Lyx notes printing?
It is only useful if it can be turn on and off easily. Max --- Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Max" == Max Bian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Max> How about turn it into footnote? > > Hmm, why not use a footnote in this case? :) > > JMarc > __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:31:23AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > - have the possibility to print the comments (but in which form?) > > I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious > (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). > > Matej Now I'm lost... what special page? /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:03:49PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious > > (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). > > > > Matej > > Now I'm lost... what special page? The same way as Acrobat and Word deal with their comments and notes -- printing all of them behind the end of the document. Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP ID# D96484AC 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 Opinions founded on prejudice are always sustained with the greatest violence. -- Hebrew Proverb
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Matej Cepl wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:03:49PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > > I suppose the special page after the document is the most obvious > > > (with references to the pages, where note is anchored). > > > > > > Matej > > > > Now I'm lost... what special page? > > The same way as Acrobat and Word deal with their comments and > notes -- printing all of them behind the end of the document. > Thank's, didn't know that. I've added that alternative as well to http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/notes/notes.html It certainly sounds like a relatively straight forward way to implement, so maybe you are only left with wanting to have really short notes appear on the actual page as a footnote or a margin note. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Alfonso Gazo wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to print the Lyx notes (not marginal notes or
footnotes, but Lyx notes) of the document?
--
Alfonso
Check out this thread, it's basically about modifying the lyx-script in
order to convert the note environment into a margin environment.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=102747712138781w=2
The solution I'm using is based on the Comment environment instead,
where I use
\usepackage{comment}
\includecomment{comment}
in the preamble which will print the comments.
I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my
thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with real text.
You can find that environment in this catalog:
http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/
(you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify
your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc)
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
This is great Christian! Thanks a lot for sending this out.. It's very
useful.. I made a minor change in outline.inc so that the end of the
note will look similar to the start with a Note: End..
nirmal
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Alfonso Gazo wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to print the Lyx notes (not marginal notes or
footnotes, but Lyx notes) of the document?
--
Alfonso
Check out this thread, it's basically about modifying the lyx-script in
order to convert the note environment into a margin environment.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-usersm=102747712138781w=2
The solution I'm using is based on the Comment environment instead,
where I use
\usepackage{comment}
\includecomment{comment}
in the preamble which will print the comments.
I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my
thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with real text.
You can find that environment in this catalog:
http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/
(you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify
your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc)
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
This is great Christian! Thanks a lot for sending this out.. It's very
useful.. I made a minor change in outline.inc so that the end of the
note will look similar to the start with a Note: End..
nirmal
Re: Lyx notes printing?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Alfonso Gazo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to print the Lyx notes (not marginal notes or
> footnotes, but Lyx notes) of the document?
>
> --
> Alfonso
>
Check out this thread, it's basically about modifying the lyx-script in
order to convert the note environment into a margin environment.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-users=102747712138781=2
The solution I'm using is based on the Comment environment instead,
where I use
\usepackage{comment}
\includecomment{comment}
in the preamble which will print the comments.
I've also made an additional environment which I use to put notes in my
thesis with stuff that I'll eventually replace with "real" text.
You can find that environment in this catalog:
http://www.md.kth.se/~chr/lyx/outline_notes/
(you'll need to move outline.inc to your catalog .lyx/layouts and modify
your .lyx/layouts/stdlayouts.inc so that it includes outline.inc)
If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
\excludecomment{contentCmt}
in the preamble
/Christian
--
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-790 91 37 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Mechatronics lab, Dept. of Machine Designhttp://www.md.kth.se
Re: Lyx notes printing?
> If I don't want these notes to appear in the output, I put:
> \excludecomment{contentCmt}
> in the preamble
>
> /Christian
>
This is great Christian! Thanks a lot for sending this out.. It's very
useful.. I made a minor change in outline.inc so that the end of the
note will look similar to the start with a "Note: End"..
nirmal
Lyx notes printing?
Hi, Is there any way to print the Lyx notes (not marginal notes or footnotes, but Lyx notes) of the document? -- Alfonso
Lyx notes printing?
Hi, Is there any way to print the Lyx notes (not marginal notes or footnotes, but Lyx notes) of the document? -- Alfonso
Lyx notes printing?
Hi, Is there any way to print the Lyx notes (not marginal notes or footnotes, but Lyx notes) of the document? -- Alfonso
