Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Watkins
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John Kane wrote:
 My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for  (curly
 quotes)
LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes, so you should be
able to search and replace, in Word, for that (though there is a Smart
Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).

 and for some other things like an em-dash or
 the Greek letter pi.
Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses something different for
these as well. If you search for these and replace them with another
string of characters, which will not be replicated anywhere else, in
Word then you can then search for that string of characters and replace
it, in LyX, with the correct representation.
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 John Kane wrote:
  My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for  (curly
  quotes)
 LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes,
 so you should be
 able to search and replace, in Word, for that
 (though there is a Smart
 Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).
Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
produce the document but a search and replace is easy
enough.  

 
  and for some other things like an em-dash or
  the Greek letter pi.
 Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses
 something different for
 these as well. If you search for these and replace
 them with another
 string of characters, which will not be replicated
 anywhere else, in
 Word then you can then search for that string of
 characters and replace
 it, in LyX, with the correct representation.


Yes of course.  Thanks again.

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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Watkins
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John Kane wrote:
 Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
 produce the document but a search and replace is easy
 enough.  
I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't disable the Smart
Quote option within Word, it may well just replace anything you change,
because it's being 'smart'.
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 John Kane wrote:
  Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I
 didn't
  produce the document but a search and replace is
 easy
  enough.  
 I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't
 disable the Smart
 Quote option within Word, it may well just replace
 anything you change,
 because it's being 'smart'.

No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with smart quotes off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 

Thanks

Thanks though
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Lohmann

John Kane schrieb:



No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with smart quotes off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 



Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all the necessary 
SearchReplace actions and save them as Word or OO macro :-)


Daniel


Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Lohmann
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 John Kane schrieb:
 
  
  No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
  normally use OOo as a WP, with smart quotes off,
 but
  I get some very badly formatted  Word documents
 for
  internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put
 them
  into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
  something readable in Word.
  
  Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but
 some
  people have so few clews about formatting that
  cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than
 it's
  worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
  problems very quickly and invisibly. 
 
 
 Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all
 the necessary 
 SearchReplace actions and save them as Word or OO
 macro :-)
 
 Daniel

Good idea indeed. 

Last time I wrote a macro was in Lotus 123 about 16-18
years ago but if I keep moving Word junk to LyX I may
have to do one again.  It probably would not take long
since it seems to be only 5-6 items consistantly.

Thanks

 


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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Watkins
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John Kane wrote:
 My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for  (curly
 quotes)
LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes, so you should be
able to search and replace, in Word, for that (though there is a Smart
Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).

 and for some other things like an em-dash or
 the Greek letter pi.
Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses something different for
these as well. If you search for these and replace them with another
string of characters, which will not be replicated anywhere else, in
Word then you can then search for that string of characters and replace
it, in LyX, with the correct representation.
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 John Kane wrote:
  My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for  (curly
  quotes)
 LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes,
 so you should be
 able to search and replace, in Word, for that
 (though there is a Smart
 Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).
Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
produce the document but a search and replace is easy
enough.  

 
  and for some other things like an em-dash or
  the Greek letter pi.
 Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses
 something different for
 these as well. If you search for these and replace
 them with another
 string of characters, which will not be replicated
 anywhere else, in
 Word then you can then search for that string of
 characters and replace
 it, in LyX, with the correct representation.


Yes of course.  Thanks again.

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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Watkins
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John Kane wrote:
 Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
 produce the document but a search and replace is easy
 enough.  
I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't disable the Smart
Quote option within Word, it may well just replace anything you change,
because it's being 'smart'.
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 John Kane wrote:
  Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I
 didn't
  produce the document but a search and replace is
 easy
  enough.  
 I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't
 disable the Smart
 Quote option within Word, it may well just replace
 anything you change,
 because it's being 'smart'.

No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with smart quotes off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 

Thanks

Thanks though
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Lohmann

John Kane schrieb:



No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with smart quotes off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 



Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all the necessary 
SearchReplace actions and save them as Word or OO macro :-)


Daniel


Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Lohmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John Kane schrieb:
 
  
  No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
  normally use OOo as a WP, with smart quotes off,
 but
  I get some very badly formatted  Word documents
 for
  internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put
 them
  into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
  something readable in Word.
  
  Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but
 some
  people have so few clews about formatting that
  cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than
 it's
  worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
  problems very quickly and invisibly. 
 
 
 Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all
 the necessary 
 SearchReplace actions and save them as Word or OO
 macro :-)
 
 Daniel

Good idea indeed. 

Last time I wrote a macro was in Lotus 123 about 16-18
years ago but if I keep moving Word junk to LyX I may
have to do one again.  It probably would not take long
since it seems to be only 5-6 items consistantly.

Thanks

 


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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Watkins
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John Kane wrote:
> My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for " (curly
> quotes)
LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes, so you should be
able to search and replace, in Word, for that (though there is a Smart
Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).

> and for some other things like an em-dash or
> the Greek letter pi.
Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses something different for
these as well. If you search for these and replace them with another
string of characters, which will not be replicated anywhere else, in
Word then you can then search for that string of characters and replace
it, in LyX, with the correct representation.
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> John Kane wrote:
> > My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for " (curly
> > quotes)
> LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes,
> so you should be
> able to search and replace, in Word, for that
> (though there is a Smart
> Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).
Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
produce the document but a search and replace is easy
enough.  

> 
> > and for some other things like an em-dash or
> > the Greek letter pi.
> Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses
> something different for
> these as well. If you search for these and replace
> them with another
> string of characters, which will not be replicated
> anywhere else, in
> Word then you can then search for that string of
> characters and replace
> it, in LyX, with the correct representation.


Yes of course.  Thanks again.

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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Watkins
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John Kane wrote:
>> Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
>> produce the document but a search and replace is easy
>> enough.  
I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't disable the Smart
Quote option within Word, it may well just replace anything you change,
because it's being 'smart'.
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> John Kane wrote:
> >> Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I
> didn't
> >> produce the document but a search and replace is
> easy
> >> enough.  
> I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't
> disable the Smart
> Quote option within Word, it may well just replace
> anything you change,
> because it's being 'smart'.

No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with "smart quotes" off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 

Thanks

Thanks though
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Lohmann

John Kane schrieb:



No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with "smart quotes" off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 



Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all the necessary 
Search actions and save them as Word or OO macro :-)


Daniel


Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-13 Thread John Kane

--- Daniel Lohmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane schrieb:
> 
> > 
> > No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
> > normally use OOo as a WP, with "smart quotes" off,
> but
> > I get some very badly formatted  Word documents
> for
> > internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put
> them
> > into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
> > something readable in Word.
> > 
> > Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but
> some
> > people have so few clews about formatting that
> > cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than
> it's
> > worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
> > problems very quickly and invisibly. 
> 
> 
> Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all
> the necessary 
> Search actions and save them as Word or OO
> macro :-)
> 
> Daniel

Good idea indeed. 

Last time I wrote a macro was in Lotus 123 about 16-18
years ago but if I keep moving Word junk to LyX I may
have to do one again.  It probably would not take long
since it seems to be only 5-6 items consistantly.

Thanks

 


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MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-12 Thread John Kane
What is the current approach to importing Word
documents to LyX?

I don't want to do anything fancy. I have some very
poorly formatted Word docs (working docs not for
publication) and I have found that simply cutting and
pasting the text into LyX and doing a bit of
formatting can save me a lot of frustration trying to
read poorly laid out pages.

My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for  (curly
quotes) and for some other things like an em-dash  or
the Greek letter pi. .  It looks like an encoding
problem but I don't see how to approach it since I
don't see how to check what encoding  LyX is using,
nor Word's encoding.

I also seem to be getting an occasional empty box for
a subscript in an equation but I can live with that
since  it is better to re- enter the few equations
with Lyx for better formatting anyway.

Other things like headings etc I can easily redo in a
few minutes but finding and replacing the ?' is a
pain.

Any suggestions? 

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MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-12 Thread John Kane
What is the current approach to importing Word
documents to LyX?

I don't want to do anything fancy. I have some very
poorly formatted Word docs (working docs not for
publication) and I have found that simply cutting and
pasting the text into LyX and doing a bit of
formatting can save me a lot of frustration trying to
read poorly laid out pages.

My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for  (curly
quotes) and for some other things like an em-dash  or
the Greek letter pi. .  It looks like an encoding
problem but I don't see how to approach it since I
don't see how to check what encoding  LyX is using,
nor Word's encoding.

I also seem to be getting an occasional empty box for
a subscript in an equation but I can live with that
since  it is better to re- enter the few equations
with Lyx for better formatting anyway.

Other things like headings etc I can easily redo in a
few minutes but finding and replacing the ?' is a
pain.

Any suggestions? 

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MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

2007-02-12 Thread John Kane
What is the current approach to importing Word
documents to LyX?

I don't want to do anything fancy. I have some very
poorly formatted Word docs (working docs not for
publication) and I have found that simply cutting and
pasting the text into LyX and doing a bit of
formatting can save me a lot of frustration trying to
read poorly laid out pages.

My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for " (curly
quotes) and for some other things like an em-dash  or
the Greek letter pi. .  It looks like an encoding
problem but I don't see how to approach it since I
don't see how to check what encoding  LyX is using,
nor Word's encoding.

I also seem to be getting an occasional empty box for
a subscript in an equation but I can live with that
since  it is better to re- enter the few equations
with Lyx for better formatting anyway.

Other things like headings etc I can easily redo in a
few minutes but finding and replacing the ?' is a
pain.

Any suggestions? 

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