Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
I installed the rpm for LyX 1.4.2 distributed in the Fedora 5 extras 
repository.

I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on mathematical 
expressions with LyX 1.4.x.  After I perform a relatively small amount of 
editing, inside and outside math mode, the window simply crashes and then I 
have to recover the document.  That happened to me 3 times in about 10 
minutes of editing...

The same problem occurred with all versions 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 that I tested.  
Every time I have to come back to version 1.3.7, which is fortunately very 
robust.

I would like to post a debug report on this.  How can I channel the ouput 
of lyx -dbg any into a file?  lyx -dbg any  lyx_bug.txt did not work...
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Department of Physics
Institute of Physics and Mathematics
Federal University of Pelotas
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Abshoff
 I installed the rpm for LyX 1.4.2 distributed in the Fedora 5 extras
 repository.

 I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on mathematical
 expressions with LyX 1.4.x.  After I perform a relatively small amount of
 editing, inside and outside math mode, the window simply crashes and then
 I
 have to recover the document.  That happened to me 3 times in about 10
 minutes of editing...

 The same problem occurred with all versions 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 that I tested.
 Every time I have to come back to version 1.3.7, which is fortunately very
 robust.

 I would like to post a debug report on this.  How can I channel the ouput
 of lyx -dbg any into a file?  lyx -dbg any  lyx_bug.txt did not
 work...

Try lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt 

Sorry, I can't help you on the other stuff, I don't keep track of LyX
develpment at the moment :(.

Cheers,

Michael

 --
 Rudi Gaelzer
 Department of Physics
 Institute of Physics and Mathematics
 Federal University of Pelotas
 BRAZIL
 Registered linux user # 153741





Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Rudi == Rudi Gaelzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rudi I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on
Rudi mathematical expressions with LyX 1.4.x. After I perform a
Rudi relatively small amount of editing, inside and outside math
Rudi mode, the window simply crashes and then I have to recover the
Rudi document. That happened to me 3 times in about 10 minutes of
Rudi editing...

Try to provide us with repeatable crashes. I am currently working to
fix some crashes related to sub/superscripts, for example.

JMarc


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Jean-Marc,
I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any 
instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that will 
ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes always 
after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving or 
entering a math environment.

I could send the bug report obtained from lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt, as 
Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2, is 
above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

On Thursday 17 August 2006 09:51, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Rudi == Rudi Gaelzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Rudi I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on
 Rudi mathematical expressions with LyX 1.4.x. After I perform a
 Rudi relatively small amount of editing, inside and outside math
 Rudi mode, the window simply crashes and then I have to recover the
 Rudi document. That happened to me 3 times in about 10 minutes of
 Rudi editing...

 Try to provide us with repeatable crashes. I am currently working to
 fix some crashes related to sub/superscripts, for example.

 JMarc

-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departamento de Física
Instituto de Física e Matemática
Fundação Universidade Federal de Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
Fone: +55-53-275-7416
FAX:  +55-53-275-7343
Usuário de Linux Registrado Nº 153741


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Jean-Marc,
 I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any
 instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that
 will ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes
 always after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm
 leaving or entering a math environment.

Is it related to using instant preview?

Jürgen


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Rudi Gaelzer:
 Jean-Marc,
 I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any 
 instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that 
will 
 ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes 
always 
 after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving 
or 
 entering a math environment.

Did you compile LyX yourself? If yes, it would be nice if you could compile 
it with debugging symbols (run configure with --enable-debug). Then run 
LyX in gdb, and when it crashes press bt for a backtrace and send that. 
That might give us useful information.

 I could send the bug report obtained from lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt, 
as 
 Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2, 
is 
 above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

You could try

lyx -dbg mathed,action 2 lyx_bug.txt

instead. If that is still too big then simply send the last 1000 lines.

 Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

You can, but it does not help much if the bug is not reproducible and we 
don't have a backtrace and/or debug output. If you manage to get a 
backtrace or debug output please do.

The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in 
1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have 
reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g. 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677


Georg



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Georg Baum wrote:

 The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in
 1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have
 reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g.
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677

fc5/gcc-4.1, so that may be it

-- Rex



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Indeed, I'm running lyx on FC5 with gcc 4.1.x.
Attached is the bug report obtained with  lyx -dbg mathed,action 2 
lyx_bug.txt

Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant 
preview should kick in...

Could this be the bug related to gcc?

Thanks.

On Thursday 17 August 2006 14:17, Georg Baum wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Rudi Gaelzer:
  Jean-Marc,
  I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any
  instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that

 will

  ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes

 always

  after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving

 or

  entering a math environment.

 Did you compile LyX yourself? If yes, it would be nice if you could compile
 it with debugging symbols (run configure with --enable-debug). Then run
 LyX in gdb, and when it crashes press bt for a backtrace and send that.
 That might give us useful information.

  I could send the bug report obtained from lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt,

 as

  Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2,

 is

  above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

 You could try

 lyx -dbg mathed,action 2 lyx_bug.txt

 instead. If that is still too big then simply send the last 1000 lines.

  Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

 You can, but it does not help much if the bug is not reproducible and we
 don't have a backtrace and/or debug output. If you manage to get a
 backtrace or debug output please do.

 The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in
 1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have
 reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g.
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677


 Georg

-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departamento de Física
Instituto de Física e Matemática
Fundação Universidade Federal de Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
Fone: +55-53-275-7416
FAX:  +55-53-275-7343
Usuário de Linux Registrado Nº 153741


lyx_bug.txt.bz2
Description: BZip2 compressed data


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:56, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Indeed, I'm running lyx on FC5 with gcc 4.1.x.
 Attached is the bug report obtained with  lyx -dbg mathed,action 2
 lyx_bug.txt

 Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant
 preview should kick in...

 Could this be the bug related to gcc?

 Thanks.

  When writing my thesis, where I had hundreds of math expressions I had to 
turn off instant preview or else I would see the same behaviour.

  I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems to be an 
issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 20:00 schrieb José Matos:
   I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems to 
be an 
 issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

Yes. Fortunately we know the cause and will fix it for 1.4.3: The included 
boost 1.32 does not work well with gcc 4.1. This is fixed in boost 1.33.

Rudi, I think it is best if you stick with 1.3.7 until we have fixed this 
issue and then try again.


Georg



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 17 August 2006 19:21, Georg Baum wrote:
 Rudi, I think it is best if you stick with 1.3.7 until we have fixed this
 issue and then try again.

  Or turn off instant preview for the moment. :-)

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant
 preview should kick in...

 Could this be the bug related to gcc?

Yes. It apparently happens with the boost version included to LyX 1.4 and gcc 
4.1. See this bug:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677
and this one:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2662

Your best bet for now is to turn preview-latex off.

Jürgen


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Georg Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 20:00 schrieb José Matos:
 I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems
 to
Georg be an
 issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

Georg Yes. Fortunately we know the cause and will fix it for 1.4.3:
Georg The included boost 1.32 does not work well with gcc 4.1. This
Georg is fixed in boost 1.33.

What do we have to do to upgrade boost like that?

JMarc


Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
I installed the rpm for LyX 1.4.2 distributed in the Fedora 5 extras 
repository.

I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on mathematical 
expressions with LyX 1.4.x.  After I perform a relatively small amount of 
editing, inside and outside math mode, the window simply crashes and then I 
have to recover the document.  That happened to me 3 times in about 10 
minutes of editing...

The same problem occurred with all versions 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 that I tested.  
Every time I have to come back to version 1.3.7, which is fortunately very 
robust.

I would like to post a debug report on this.  How can I channel the ouput 
of lyx -dbg any into a file?  lyx -dbg any  lyx_bug.txt did not work...
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Department of Physics
Institute of Physics and Mathematics
Federal University of Pelotas
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Abshoff
 I installed the rpm for LyX 1.4.2 distributed in the Fedora 5 extras
 repository.

 I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on mathematical
 expressions with LyX 1.4.x.  After I perform a relatively small amount of
 editing, inside and outside math mode, the window simply crashes and then
 I
 have to recover the document.  That happened to me 3 times in about 10
 minutes of editing...

 The same problem occurred with all versions 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 that I tested.
 Every time I have to come back to version 1.3.7, which is fortunately very
 robust.

 I would like to post a debug report on this.  How can I channel the ouput
 of lyx -dbg any into a file?  lyx -dbg any  lyx_bug.txt did not
 work...

Try lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt 

Sorry, I can't help you on the other stuff, I don't keep track of LyX
develpment at the moment :(.

Cheers,

Michael

 --
 Rudi Gaelzer
 Department of Physics
 Institute of Physics and Mathematics
 Federal University of Pelotas
 BRAZIL
 Registered linux user # 153741





Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Rudi == Rudi Gaelzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rudi I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on
Rudi mathematical expressions with LyX 1.4.x. After I perform a
Rudi relatively small amount of editing, inside and outside math
Rudi mode, the window simply crashes and then I have to recover the
Rudi document. That happened to me 3 times in about 10 minutes of
Rudi editing...

Try to provide us with repeatable crashes. I am currently working to
fix some crashes related to sub/superscripts, for example.

JMarc


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Jean-Marc,
I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any 
instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that will 
ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes always 
after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving or 
entering a math environment.

I could send the bug report obtained from lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt, as 
Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2, is 
above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

On Thursday 17 August 2006 09:51, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Rudi == Rudi Gaelzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Rudi I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on
 Rudi mathematical expressions with LyX 1.4.x. After I perform a
 Rudi relatively small amount of editing, inside and outside math
 Rudi mode, the window simply crashes and then I have to recover the
 Rudi document. That happened to me 3 times in about 10 minutes of
 Rudi editing...

 Try to provide us with repeatable crashes. I am currently working to
 fix some crashes related to sub/superscripts, for example.

 JMarc

-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departamento de Física
Instituto de Física e Matemática
Fundação Universidade Federal de Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
Fone: +55-53-275-7416
FAX:  +55-53-275-7343
Usuário de Linux Registrado Nº 153741


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Jean-Marc,
 I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any
 instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that
 will ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes
 always after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm
 leaving or entering a math environment.

Is it related to using instant preview?

Jürgen


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Rudi Gaelzer:
 Jean-Marc,
 I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any 
 instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that 
will 
 ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes 
always 
 after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving 
or 
 entering a math environment.

Did you compile LyX yourself? If yes, it would be nice if you could compile 
it with debugging symbols (run configure with --enable-debug). Then run 
LyX in gdb, and when it crashes press bt for a backtrace and send that. 
That might give us useful information.

 I could send the bug report obtained from lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt, 
as 
 Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2, 
is 
 above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

You could try

lyx -dbg mathed,action 2 lyx_bug.txt

instead. If that is still too big then simply send the last 1000 lines.

 Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

You can, but it does not help much if the bug is not reproducible and we 
don't have a backtrace and/or debug output. If you manage to get a 
backtrace or debug output please do.

The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in 
1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have 
reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g. 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677


Georg



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Georg Baum wrote:

 The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in
 1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have
 reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g.
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677

fc5/gcc-4.1, so that may be it

-- Rex



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Indeed, I'm running lyx on FC5 with gcc 4.1.x.
Attached is the bug report obtained with  lyx -dbg mathed,action 2 
lyx_bug.txt

Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant 
preview should kick in...

Could this be the bug related to gcc?

Thanks.

On Thursday 17 August 2006 14:17, Georg Baum wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Rudi Gaelzer:
  Jean-Marc,
  I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any
  instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that

 will

  ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes

 always

  after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving

 or

  entering a math environment.

 Did you compile LyX yourself? If yes, it would be nice if you could compile
 it with debugging symbols (run configure with --enable-debug). Then run
 LyX in gdb, and when it crashes press bt for a backtrace and send that.
 That might give us useful information.

  I could send the bug report obtained from lyx -dbg any 2 lyx_bug.txt,

 as

  Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2,

 is

  above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

 You could try

 lyx -dbg mathed,action 2 lyx_bug.txt

 instead. If that is still too big then simply send the last 1000 lines.

  Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

 You can, but it does not help much if the bug is not reproducible and we
 don't have a backtrace and/or debug output. If you manage to get a
 backtrace or debug output please do.

 The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in
 1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have
 reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g.
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677


 Georg

-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Departamento de Física
Instituto de Física e Matemática
Fundação Universidade Federal de Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
Fone: +55-53-275-7416
FAX:  +55-53-275-7343
Usuário de Linux Registrado Nº 153741


lyx_bug.txt.bz2
Description: BZip2 compressed data


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:56, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Indeed, I'm running lyx on FC5 with gcc 4.1.x.
 Attached is the bug report obtained with  lyx -dbg mathed,action 2
 lyx_bug.txt

 Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant
 preview should kick in...

 Could this be the bug related to gcc?

 Thanks.

  When writing my thesis, where I had hundreds of math expressions I had to 
turn off instant preview or else I would see the same behaviour.

  I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems to be an 
issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 20:00 schrieb José Matos:
   I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems to 
be an 
 issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

Yes. Fortunately we know the cause and will fix it for 1.4.3: The included 
boost 1.32 does not work well with gcc 4.1. This is fixed in boost 1.33.

Rudi, I think it is best if you stick with 1.3.7 until we have fixed this 
issue and then try again.


Georg



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 17 August 2006 19:21, Georg Baum wrote:
 Rudi, I think it is best if you stick with 1.3.7 until we have fixed this
 issue and then try again.

  Or turn off instant preview for the moment. :-)

 Georg

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
 Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant
 preview should kick in...

 Could this be the bug related to gcc?

Yes. It apparently happens with the boost version included to LyX 1.4 and gcc 
4.1. See this bug:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677
and this one:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2662

Your best bet for now is to turn preview-latex off.

Jürgen


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Georg Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 20:00 schrieb José Matos:
 I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems
 to
Georg be an
 issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

Georg Yes. Fortunately we know the cause and will fix it for 1.4.3:
Georg The included boost 1.32 does not work well with gcc 4.1. This
Georg is fixed in boost 1.33.

What do we have to do to upgrade boost like that?

JMarc


Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
I installed the rpm for LyX 1.4.2 distributed in the Fedora 5 extras 
repository.

I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on mathematical 
expressions with LyX 1.4.x.  After I perform a relatively small amount of 
editing, inside and outside math mode, the window simply crashes and then I 
have to recover the document.  That happened to me 3 times in about 10 
minutes of editing...

The same problem occurred with all versions 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 that I tested.  
Every time I have to come back to version 1.3.7, which is fortunately very 
robust.

I would like to post a debug report on this.  How can I channel the ouput 
of "lyx -dbg any" into a file?  "lyx -dbg any > lyx_bug.txt" did not work...
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Department of Physics
Institute of Physics and Mathematics
Federal University of Pelotas
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Abshoff
> I installed the rpm for LyX 1.4.2 distributed in the Fedora 5 extras
> repository.
>
> I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on mathematical
> expressions with LyX 1.4.x.  After I perform a relatively small amount of
> editing, inside and outside math mode, the window simply crashes and then
> I
> have to recover the document.  That happened to me 3 times in about 10
> minutes of editing...
>
> The same problem occurred with all versions 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 that I tested.
> Every time I have to come back to version 1.3.7, which is fortunately very
> robust.
>
> I would like to post a debug report on this.  How can I channel the ouput
> of "lyx -dbg any" into a file?  "lyx -dbg any > lyx_bug.txt" did not
> work...

Try "lyx -dbg any 2> lyx_bug.txt &"

Sorry, I can't help you on the other stuff, I don't keep track of LyX
develpment at the moment :(.

Cheers,

Michael

> --
> Rudi Gaelzer
> Department of Physics
> Institute of Physics and Mathematics
> Federal University of Pelotas
> BRAZIL
> Registered linux user # 153741
>




Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Rudi" == Rudi Gaelzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rudi> I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on
Rudi> mathematical expressions with LyX 1.4.x. After I perform a
Rudi> relatively small amount of editing, inside and outside math
Rudi> mode, the window simply crashes and then I have to recover the
Rudi> document. That happened to me 3 times in about 10 minutes of
Rudi> editing...

Try to provide us with repeatable crashes. I am currently working to
fix some crashes related to sub/superscripts, for example.

JMarc


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Jean-Marc,
I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any 
instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that will 
ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes always 
after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving or 
entering a math environment.

I could send the bug report obtained from "lyx -dbg any 2> lyx_bug.txt", as 
Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2, is 
above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

On Thursday 17 August 2006 09:51, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Rudi" == Rudi Gaelzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Rudi> I've found that it's still impossible to work intensively on
> Rudi> mathematical expressions with LyX 1.4.x. After I perform a
> Rudi> relatively small amount of editing, inside and outside math
> Rudi> mode, the window simply crashes and then I have to recover the
> Rudi> document. That happened to me 3 times in about 10 minutes of
> Rudi> editing...
>
> Try to provide us with repeatable crashes. I am currently working to
> fix some crashes related to sub/superscripts, for example.
>
> JMarc

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Instituto de Física e Matemática
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96010-900 Pelotas - RS
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Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
> Jean-Marc,
> I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any
> instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that
> will ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes
> always after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm
> leaving or entering a math environment.

Is it related to using instant preview?

Jürgen


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Rudi Gaelzer:
> Jean-Marc,
> I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any 
> instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that 
will 
> ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes 
always 
> after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving 
or 
> entering a math environment.

Did you compile LyX yourself? If yes, it would be nice if you could compile 
it with debugging symbols (run configure with --enable-debug). Then run 
LyX in gdb, and when it crashes press bt for a backtrace and send that. 
That might give us useful information.

> I could send the bug report obtained from "lyx -dbg any 2> lyx_bug.txt", 
as 
> Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2, 
is 
> above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.

You could try

lyx -dbg mathed,action 2> lyx_bug.txt

instead. If that is still too big then simply send the last 1000 lines.

> Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?

You can, but it does not help much if the bug is not reproducible and we 
don't have a backtrace and/or debug output. If you manage to get a 
backtrace or debug output please do.

The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in 
1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have 
reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g. 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677


Georg



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Georg Baum wrote:

> The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in
> 1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have
> reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g.
> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677

fc5/gcc-4.1, so that may be it

-- Rex



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Indeed, I'm running lyx on FC5 with gcc 4.1.x.
Attached is the bug report obtained with  "lyx -dbg mathed,action 2> 
lyx_bug.txt"

Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant 
preview should kick in...

Could this be the bug related to gcc?

Thanks.

On Thursday 17 August 2006 14:17, Georg Baum wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Rudi Gaelzer:
> > Jean-Marc,
> > I don't think this is possible.  I mean, the crash seems to occur at any
> > instant.  I can not identify any particular sequence of keystrokes that
>
> will
>
> > ignite it...  the only pattern I can see is that the window crashes
>
> always
>
> > after a lot of intensive editing in mathed mode, usually when I'm leaving
>
> or
>
> > entering a math environment.
>
> Did you compile LyX yourself? If yes, it would be nice if you could compile
> it with debugging symbols (run configure with --enable-debug). Then run
> LyX in gdb, and when it crashes press bt for a backtrace and send that.
> That might give us useful information.
>
> > I could send the bug report obtained from "lyx -dbg any 2> lyx_bug.txt",
>
> as
>
> > Michael Abshoff suggested, but the file, even when compressed with bzip2,
>
> is
>
> > above the 6b limit of the mailer-deamon.
>
> You could try
>
> lyx -dbg mathed,action 2> lyx_bug.txt
>
> instead. If that is still too big then simply send the last 1000 lines.
>
> > Should I create a bug report at bugzilla?
>
> You can, but it does not help much if the bug is not reproducible and we
> don't have a backtrace and/or debug output. If you manage to get a
> backtrace or debug output please do.
>
> The strange thing is that heavy math editing works rather well for me in
> 1.4.3svn. What OS/distribution and what compiler do you use? We have
> reported crashes with gcc 4.1 that might be related to this, see e.g.
> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677
>
>
> Georg

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Departamento de Física
Instituto de Física e Matemática
Fundação Universidade Federal de Pelotas
Caixa Postal 354 - Campus UFPel
96010-900 Pelotas - RS
Fone: +55-53-275-7416
FAX:  +55-53-275-7343
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lyx_bug.txt.bz2
Description: BZip2 compressed data


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 17 August 2006 18:56, Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
> Indeed, I'm running lyx on FC5 with gcc 4.1.x.
> Attached is the bug report obtained with  "lyx -dbg mathed,action 2>
> lyx_bug.txt"
>
> Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant
> preview should kick in...
>
> Could this be the bug related to gcc?
>
> Thanks.

  When writing my thesis, where I had hundreds of math expressions I had to 
turn off instant preview or else I would see the same behaviour.

  I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems to be an 
issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Georg Baum
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 20:00 schrieb José Matos:
>   I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems to 
be an 
> issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

Yes. Fortunately we know the cause and will fix it for 1.4.3: The included 
boost 1.32 does not work well with gcc 4.1. This is fixed in boost 1.33.

Rudi, I think it is best if you stick with 1.3.7 until we have fixed this 
issue and then try again.


Georg



Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 17 August 2006 19:21, Georg Baum wrote:
> Rudi, I think it is best if you stick with 1.3.7 until we have fixed this
> issue and then try again.

  Or turn off instant preview for the moment. :-)

> Georg

-- 
José Abílio


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rudi Gaelzer wrote:
> Apparently, the crash really occurs when I exit mathed mode and instant
> preview should kick in...
>
> Could this be the bug related to gcc?

Yes. It apparently happens with the boost version included to LyX 1.4 and gcc 
4.1. See this bug:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2677
and this one:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2662

Your best bet for now is to turn preview-latex off.

Jürgen


Re: Math-intensive work in 1.4.x impossible.

2006-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Georg> Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 20:00 schrieb José Matos:
>> I am running FC5 as well but as reported in this thread this seems
>> to
Georg> be an
>> issue with gcc 4.1 that is not exclusive of FC5. :-(

Georg> Yes. Fortunately we know the cause and will fix it for 1.4.3:
Georg> The included boost 1.32 does not work well with gcc 4.1. This
Georg> is fixed in boost 1.33.

What do we have to do to upgrade boost like that?

JMarc