Fwd: [Tugindia] Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-18 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
Can you please help my friend seeking the info below? FN


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Date: 2008/11/18
Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Query on printing with 'screens'
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Nina Mazumdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all:

 I'm a Lyx user in Goa, and hope you won't mind me intruding.

 Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
 has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
 like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.

 He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.

 True, TeX does not add a screen to images as some of the proprietary
 systems like Quark, et al do.  But that is not an excuse for the

What extra information does an image with a screen have? Is it
half-toning information or something specific to the printer?
Will a higher resolution image or pdf with less compression help?

Regards,
Derek

P.S. I don't see any visible differences in the images in pdfs
generated by Quark or distiller when compared to pdflatex, which is
why I wish to clarify my doubts.
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Fwd: [Tugindia] Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-18 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
Can you please help my friend seeking the info below? FN


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From: Derek Cordeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/11/18
Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Query on printing with 'screens'
To: TUGIndia Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Nina Mazumdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all:

 I'm a Lyx user in Goa, and hope you won't mind me intruding.

 Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
 has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
 like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.

 He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.

 True, TeX does not add a screen to images as some of the proprietary
 systems like Quark, et al do.  But that is not an excuse for the

What extra information does an image with a screen have? Is it
half-toning information or something specific to the printer?
Will a higher resolution image or pdf with less compression help?

Regards,
Derek

P.S. I don't see any visible differences in the images in pdfs
generated by Quark or distiller when compared to pdflatex, which is
why I wish to clarify my doubts.
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Fwd: [Tugindia] Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-18 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
Can you please help my friend seeking the info below? FN


-- Forwarded message --
From: Derek Cordeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/18
Subject: Re: [Tugindia] Query on printing with 'screens'
To: TUGIndia Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Nina Mazumdar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I'm a Lyx user in Goa, and hope you won't mind me intruding.
>>
>> Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
>> has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
>> like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.
>>
>> He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.
>
> True, TeX does not add a screen to images as some of the proprietary
> systems like Quark, et al do.  But that is not an excuse for the

What extra information does an image with a "screen" have? Is it
half-toning information or something specific to the printer?
Will a higher resolution image or pdf with less compression help?

Regards,
Derek

P.S. I don't see any visible differences in the images in pdfs
generated by Quark or distiller when compared to pdflatex, which is
why I wish to clarify my doubts.
___
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TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
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Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
Hi all:

I'm a Lyx user in Goa, and hope you won't mind me intruding.

Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.

He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.

Query:

* Is he right?

* Is there some way of putting a screen on the photos? LyX takes TeX
commands, so maybe if there's one I could use it.

Earlier, he was struggling to find how to print the file laterally
inverted (mirror image), and we found the command after some search.

Best, FN

PS: A cc'd reply to me would be highly appreciated...
--
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Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com
Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
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Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hofbauer 

Unknown wrote:

Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.


Hmm...


He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.


Can you (or he) be more precise what you mean with a screen (at least 
I have never heard of it, and a quick Goolge search did not bring 
anything up). Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?


Anyhow, you could also try to give him a postscript file (created via 
latex+dvips), or create the pdf from postscript with Acrobat's Distiller 
(with the Prepress Profile), or with Ghostscript (also there you have 
Zillions of options, for example to not compress the images).


Or, if you have only a few figures, do not include the figures in the 
PDF (just leave white space), and let the printer set in the pictures in 
his application.


HTH,
Konrad

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hofbauer 

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

Unknown wrote:

He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.



Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?


The first.
See: http://www.adobe.com/studio/print/pdf/prepress_terms.pdf

Can't help you much here, sorry.

(But then, it is really the printer who should know how to do the color 
separation.)


/Konrad

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Manveru 
2008/11/17 Konrad Hofbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

 Unknown wrote:

 He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.



 Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?

 The first.
 See: http://www.adobe.com/studio/print/pdf/prepress_terms.pdf

 Can't help you much here, sorry.

 (But then, it is really the printer who should know how to do the color
 separation.)

I now understand :-) But it seems they use very archaic methods of
preparing for print. Normally rasterization process in separation or
bw printing is currently done automatically these days when film or
plate is prepared to photoset (I don't know proper term in English for
naświetlarka).

Such process you describe I remember from ages of old Ventura under
Windows 3.1, when every picture has to have LPI and raster angles
defined separately.

-- 
Manveru
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 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
Hi all:

I'm a Lyx user in Goa, and hope you won't mind me intruding.

Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.

He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.

Query:

* Is he right?

* Is there some way of putting a screen on the photos? LyX takes TeX
commands, so maybe if there's one I could use it.

Earlier, he was struggling to find how to print the file laterally
inverted (mirror image), and we found the command after some search.

Best, FN

PS: A cc'd reply to me would be highly appreciated...
--
FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org
Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com
Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hofbauer 

Unknown wrote:

Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.


Hmm...


He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.


Can you (or he) be more precise what you mean with a screen (at least 
I have never heard of it, and a quick Goolge search did not bring 
anything up). Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?


Anyhow, you could also try to give him a postscript file (created via 
latex+dvips), or create the pdf from postscript with Acrobat's Distiller 
(with the Prepress Profile), or with Ghostscript (also there you have 
Zillions of options, for example to not compress the images).


Or, if you have only a few figures, do not include the figures in the 
PDF (just leave white space), and let the printer set in the pictures in 
his application.


HTH,
Konrad

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hofbauer 

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

Unknown wrote:

He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.



Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?


The first.
See: http://www.adobe.com/studio/print/pdf/prepress_terms.pdf

Can't help you much here, sorry.

(But then, it is really the printer who should know how to do the color 
separation.)


/Konrad

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Manveru 
2008/11/17 Konrad Hofbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

 Unknown wrote:

 He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.



 Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?

 The first.
 See: http://www.adobe.com/studio/print/pdf/prepress_terms.pdf

 Can't help you much here, sorry.

 (But then, it is really the printer who should know how to do the color
 separation.)

I now understand :-) But it seems they use very archaic methods of
preparing for print. Normally rasterization process in separation or
bw printing is currently done automatically these days when film or
plate is prepared to photoset (I don't know proper term in English for
naświetlarka).

Such process you describe I remember from ages of old Ventura under
Windows 3.1, when every picture has to have LPI and raster angles
defined separately.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl

Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] 
Hi all:

I'm a Lyx user in Goa, and hope you won't mind me intruding.

Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.

He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.

Query:

* Is he right?

* Is there some way of putting a screen on the photos? LyX takes TeX
commands, so maybe if there's one I could use it.

Earlier, he was struggling to find how to print the file laterally
inverted (mirror image), and we found the command after some search.

Best, FN

PS: A cc'd reply to me would be highly appreciated...
--
FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org
Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com
Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hofbauer 

Unknown wrote:

Every time I go in for a book, to be printed via offset, my printer
has a problem. He takes the PDF file and attempts to do crazy things
like importing it into Windows/Corel Draw, etc.


Hmm...


He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.


Can you (or he) be more precise what you mean with "a screen" (at least 
I have never heard of it, and a quick Goolge search did not bring 
anything up). Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?


Anyhow, you could also try to give him a postscript file (created via 
latex+dvips), or create the pdf from postscript with Acrobat's Distiller 
(with the Prepress Profile), or with Ghostscript (also there you have 
Zillions of options, for example to not compress the images).


Or, if you have only a few figures, do not include the figures in the 
PDF (just leave white space), and let the printer set in the pictures in 
his application.


HTH,
Konrad

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hofbauer 

Konrad Hofbauer wrote:

Unknown wrote:

He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.

>

Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?


The first.
See: 

Can't help you much here, sorry.

(But then, it is really the printer who should know how to do the color 
separation.)


/Konrad

Re: Query on printing with 'screens'

2008-11-17 Thread Manveru 
2008/11/17 Konrad Hofbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Konrad Hofbauer wrote:
>>
>> Unknown wrote:
>>>
>>> He says the photos won't print because they don't have a screen.
>
>>
>>
>> Is it some printers' jargon, or a bad translation?
>
> The first.
> See: 
>
> Can't help you much here, sorry.
>
> (But then, it is really the printer who should know how to do the color
> separation.)

I now understand :-) But it seems they use very archaic methods of
preparing for print. Normally rasterization process in separation or
b printing is currently done automatically these days when film or
plate is prepared to photoset (I don't know proper term in English for
"naświetlarka").

Such process you describe I remember from ages of old Ventura under
Windows 3.1, when every picture has to have LPI and raster angles
defined separately.

-- 
Manveru
jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl