Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

On 02/05/14, 01:06 , Jerry wrote:
 
 On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 
 And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does,
 in contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.
 
 I too once tried to build LyX from source and gave up.
 
 MacPorts already has LyX, currently at 2.0.6 
 http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=namesubstr=lyx
 
 I have not used MacPorts for LyX. I'm currently using 2.1beta2 which
 is not available there. I wonder if the maintainer could be cajoled
 into keeping a beta version as well.

I guess this will be difficult:

Maintained by: nomaintainer

But still, if somebody would add a portfile for the betas, that would be
useful as well (although I prefer homebrew and will follow that path).

Cheers,

Rainer

 
 Jerry
 

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

On 02/05/14, 01:06 , Jerry wrote:
 
 On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 
 And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does,
 in contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.
 
 I too once tried to build LyX from source and gave up.
 
 MacPorts already has LyX, currently at 2.0.6 
 http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=namesubstr=lyx
 
 I have not used MacPorts for LyX. I'm currently using 2.1beta2 which
 is not available there. I wonder if the maintainer could be cajoled
 into keeping a beta version as well.

I guess this will be difficult:

Maintained by: nomaintainer

But still, if somebody would add a portfile for the betas, that would be
useful as well (although I prefer homebrew and will follow that path).

Cheers,

Rainer

 
 Jerry
 

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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

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Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

On 02/05/14, 01:06 , Jerry wrote:
> 
> On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
> 
>> And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does,
>> in contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.
> 
> I too once tried to build LyX from source and gave up.
> 
> MacPorts already has LyX, currently at 2.0.6 
> http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name=lyx
> 
> I have not used MacPorts for LyX. I'm currently using 2.1beta2 which
> is not available there. I wonder if the maintainer could be cajoled
> into keeping a beta version as well.

I guess this will be difficult:

Maintained by: nomaintainer

But still, if somebody would add a portfile for the betas, that would be
useful as well (although I prefer homebrew and will follow that path).

Cheers,

Rainer

> 
> Jerry
> 

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 02/04/14, 03:08 , Richard Heck wrote:
 On 02/03/2014 08:04 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 ...We have had this problem before, and there are other issues
 about Cocoa versus whatever versus whatever else. It is
 difficult to test every combination, and we have only a couple
 active OSX developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for
 obvious sorts of reasons. So, well, we could really use a
 couple people who could test the OSX version on a more regular
 basis.
 Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X
 10.9 and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what
 to do to help.
 
 It has been suggested that someone produce a homebrew recipe that
 would allow more

Yeah - that was me.

 ordinary users to compile and test the most recent versions, or
 even develop some system that would produce nightly, or perhaps
 weekly, builds. It would be best if this could be done for both
 trunk (2.1.dev) and branch (2.0.8dev, as things stand). Those

I agree. As I understand homebrew, the only difference wold be to
where the source is downloaded from (static URL, I think svn is also
possible, ...). I am looking loosely at the moment into the script,
and guess I will make slowly some progress. I will see that I setup a
github repo so that others can also work on it.

 of us on Linux can do this fairly easily, of course, but it's
 harder for people on OSX (or, God forbid, Windows). I confess that
 the one time I tried to

I agree. I was using Linux for more then 10 years and was very happy
with it - Ubuntu and Awesome window manager (
http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) - a dream...

But then came the chance of getting a new laptop, and the Retia
display was there - well. and now I am using OSX.

But coming back, I am really missing the package management in Linux -
apt is so much easier then manually looking for updates, downloading
them, 

And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does, in
contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.

I will keep you posted about the progress - and if somebody has any
experience with homebrew recipes, any input is welcome.

 compile LyX on OSX I failed and gave up.

Never tried it directly - only homebrew, and that works very smoothly.

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Richard
 

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Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
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South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Jerry]

On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:

 And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does, in
 contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.

I too once tried to build LyX from source and gave up.

MacPorts already has LyX, currently at 2.0.6
http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=namesubstr=lyx

I have not used MacPorts for LyX. I'm currently using 2.1beta2 which is not 
available there. I wonder if the maintainer could be cajoled into keeping a 
beta version as well.

Jerry

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 02/04/14, 03:08 , Richard Heck wrote:
 On 02/03/2014 08:04 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 ...We have had this problem before, and there are other issues
 about Cocoa versus whatever versus whatever else. It is
 difficult to test every combination, and we have only a couple
 active OSX developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for
 obvious sorts of reasons. So, well, we could really use a
 couple people who could test the OSX version on a more regular
 basis.
 Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X
 10.9 and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what
 to do to help.
 
 It has been suggested that someone produce a homebrew recipe that
 would allow more

Yeah - that was me.

 ordinary users to compile and test the most recent versions, or
 even develop some system that would produce nightly, or perhaps
 weekly, builds. It would be best if this could be done for both
 trunk (2.1.dev) and branch (2.0.8dev, as things stand). Those

I agree. As I understand homebrew, the only difference wold be to
where the source is downloaded from (static URL, I think svn is also
possible, ...). I am looking loosely at the moment into the script,
and guess I will make slowly some progress. I will see that I setup a
github repo so that others can also work on it.

 of us on Linux can do this fairly easily, of course, but it's
 harder for people on OSX (or, God forbid, Windows). I confess that
 the one time I tried to

I agree. I was using Linux for more then 10 years and was very happy
with it - Ubuntu and Awesome window manager (
http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) - a dream...

But then came the chance of getting a new laptop, and the Retia
display was there - well. and now I am using OSX.

But coming back, I am really missing the package management in Linux -
apt is so much easier then manually looking for updates, downloading
them, 

And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does, in
contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.

I will keep you posted about the progress - and if somebody has any
experience with homebrew recipes, any input is welcome.

 compile LyX on OSX I failed and gave up.

Never tried it directly - only homebrew, and that works very smoothly.

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Richard
 

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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Jerry]

On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:

 And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does, in
 contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.

I too once tried to build LyX from source and gave up.

MacPorts already has LyX, currently at 2.0.6
http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=namesubstr=lyx

I have not used MacPorts for LyX. I'm currently using 2.1beta2 which is not 
available there. I wonder if the maintainer could be cajoled into keeping a 
beta version as well.

Jerry

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 02/04/14, 03:08 , Richard Heck wrote:
> On 02/03/2014 08:04 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:
>> On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
>>> ...We have had this problem before, and there are other issues
>>> about Cocoa versus whatever versus whatever else. It is
>>> difficult to test every combination, and we have only a couple
>>> active OSX developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for
>>> obvious sorts of reasons. So, well, we could really use a
>>> couple people who could test the OSX version on a more regular
>>> basis.
>> Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X
>> 10.9 and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what
>> to do to help.
> 
> It has been suggested that someone produce a homebrew recipe that
> would allow more

Yeah - that was me.

> "ordinary users" to compile and test the most recent versions, or
> even develop some system that would produce nightly, or perhaps
> weekly, builds. It would be best if this could be done for both
> trunk (2.1.dev) and branch (2.0.8dev, as things stand). Those

I agree. As I understand homebrew, the only difference wold be to
where the source is downloaded from (static URL, I think svn is also
possible, ...). I am looking "loosely" at the moment into the script,
and guess I will make slowly some progress. I will see that I setup a
github repo so that others can also work on it.

> of us on Linux can do this fairly easily, of course, but it's
> harder for people on OSX (or, God forbid, Windows). I confess that
> the one time I tried to

I agree. I was using Linux for more then 10 years and was very happy
with it - Ubuntu and Awesome window manager (
http://awesome.naquadah.org/ ) - a dream...

But then came the chance of getting a new laptop, and the Retia
display was there - well. and now I am using OSX.

But coming back, I am really missing the package management in Linux -
apt is so much easier then manually looking for updates, downloading
them, 

And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does, in
contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.

I will keep you posted about the progress - and if somebody has any
experience with homebrew recipes, any input is welcome.

> compile LyX on OSX I failed and gave up.

Never tried it directly - only homebrew, and that works very smoothly.

Cheers,

Rainer


> 
> Richard
> 

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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Jerry]

On Feb 4, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:

> And then there came homebrew, which works very nicely, and does, in
> contrast to Macports, not require root privileges.

I too once tried to build LyX from source and gave up.

MacPorts already has LyX, currently at 2.0.6
http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name=lyx

I have not used MacPorts for LyX. I'm currently using 2.1beta2 which is not 
available there. I wonder if the maintainer could be cajoled into keeping a 
beta version as well.

Jerry

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform that
 seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had this
 problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus 
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every 
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many 
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So, well,
 we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX version
 on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to 
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least
 for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no
 hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even
 compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to 
 use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested
 in helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.

I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern a
normal user.

Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to create the
LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to compile on mac?

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Cheers,
 
 Rainer
 
 
 
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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:

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 On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform that
 seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had this
 problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus 
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every 
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many 
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So, well,
 we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX version
 on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to 
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least
 for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no
 hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even
 compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to 
 use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested
 in helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.
 
 I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern a
 normal user.
 
 Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to create the
 LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to compile on mac?

Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider INSTALL.MacOSX?

Stephan

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 02/03/14, 11:07 , Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:
 
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 On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa
 versus whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test
 every combination, and we have only a couple active OSX
 developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts
 of reasons. So, well, we could really use a couple people who
 could test the OSX version on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe
 to facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At
 least for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as
 it is no hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and
 installing, or even compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how
 to use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be
 interested in helping. But apparently, it is not that
 difficult.
 
 I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern
 a normal user.
 
 Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to
 create the LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to
 compile on mac?
 
 Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider
 INSTALL.MacOSX?

Shame on me - there it is, in the obvious place.

Thanks, I'll look into it,

Rainer

 
 Stephan
 

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South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.02.2014 um 11:34 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:

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 Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 02/03/14, 11:07 , Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa
 versus whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test
 every combination, and we have only a couple active OSX
 developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts
 of reasons. So, well, we could really use a couple people who
 could test the OSX version on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe
 to facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At
 least for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as
 it is no hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and
 installing, or even compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how
 to use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be
 interested in helping. But apparently, it is not that
 difficult.
 
 I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern
 a normal user.
 
 Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to
 create the LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to
 compile on mac?
 
 Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider
 INSTALL.MacOSX?
 
 Shame on me - there it is, in the obvious place.
 
 Thanks, I'll look into it,

No problem. I'll happily update it's contents to reflect your
findings on this matter. For LyX 2.1.X e.g. the gettext requirement
doesn't exist anymore. The Qt version for production is 4.8.5.
For development I've tried 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 too. 
Version 5.2 definitively doesn't work - the menu is missing
almost completely. On current Mac systems Qt-Carbon isn't
available anymore.

I'm using the script development/LyX-Mac-binary-release.sh.
Something like that (note the back slashes):

ARCH=x86_64
Qt4Version=4.8.5
Qt4API=-cocoa
LyXVersion=lyx-2.1.0beta2
QtConfigureOptions=-debug-and-release Qt4API=${Qt4API} 
Qt4Version=${Qt4Version} \
 sh ${LyXVersion}/development/LyX-Mac-binary-release.sh \
   --with-sdkroot=10.8 --with-macosx-target=10.6 --with-arch=${ARCH} \
   --with-qt4-dir=$HOME/lyx-build/qt-${Qt4Version}-frameworks${Qt4API}-${ARCH}

Stephan

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Chris Menzel]

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
...We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
 well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
 version on a more regular basis.

Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X 10.9
and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what to do to
help.

-chris

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Richard Heck]

On 02/03/2014 08:04 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

...We have had
this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
version on a more regular basis.

Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X 10.9
and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what to do to
help.


It has been suggested that someone produce a homebrew recipe that would 
allow more
ordinary users to compile and test the most recent versions, or even 
develop some
system that would produce nightly, or perhaps weekly, builds. It would 
be best if this
could be done for both trunk (2.1.dev) and branch (2.0.8dev, as things 
stand). Those
of us on Linux can do this fairly easily, of course, but it's harder for 
people on OSX
(or, God forbid, Windows). I confess that the one time I tried to 
compile LyX on OSX

I failed and gave up.

Richard

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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Hash: SHA1



On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform that
 seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had this
 problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus 
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every 
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many 
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So, well,
 we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX version
 on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to 
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least
 for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no
 hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even
 compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to 
 use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested
 in helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.

I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern a
normal user.

Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to create the
LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to compile on mac?

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Cheers,
 
 Rainer
 
 
 
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Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform that
 seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had this
 problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus 
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every 
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many 
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So, well,
 we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX version
 on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to 
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least
 for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no
 hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even
 compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to 
 use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested
 in helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.
 
 I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern a
 normal user.
 
 Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to create the
 LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to compile on mac?

Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider INSTALL.MacOSX?

Stephan

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1



On 02/03/14, 11:07 , Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa
 versus whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test
 every combination, and we have only a couple active OSX
 developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts
 of reasons. So, well, we could really use a couple people who
 could test the OSX version on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe
 to facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At
 least for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as
 it is no hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and
 installing, or even compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how
 to use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be
 interested in helping. But apparently, it is not that
 difficult.
 
 I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern
 a normal user.
 
 Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to
 create the LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to
 compile on mac?
 
 Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider
 INSTALL.MacOSX?

Shame on me - there it is, in the obvious place.

Thanks, I'll look into it,

Rainer

 
 Stephan
 

- -- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax :   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug
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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.02.2014 um 11:34 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 02/03/14, 11:07 , Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de:
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org 
 mailto:rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa
 versus whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test
 every combination, and we have only a couple active OSX
 developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts
 of reasons. So, well, we could really use a couple people who
 could test the OSX version on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe
 to facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At
 least for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as
 it is no hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and
 installing, or even compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how
 to use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be
 interested in helping. But apparently, it is not that
 difficult.
 
 I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern
 a normal user.
 
 Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to
 create the LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to
 compile on mac?
 
 Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider
 INSTALL.MacOSX?
 
 Shame on me - there it is, in the obvious place.
 
 Thanks, I'll look into it,

No problem. I'll happily update it's contents to reflect your
findings on this matter. For LyX 2.1.X e.g. the gettext requirement
doesn't exist anymore. The Qt version for production is 4.8.5.
For development I've tried 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 too. 
Version 5.2 definitively doesn't work - the menu is missing
almost completely. On current Mac systems Qt-Carbon isn't
available anymore.

I'm using the script development/LyX-Mac-binary-release.sh.
Something like that (note the back slashes):

ARCH=x86_64
Qt4Version=4.8.5
Qt4API=-cocoa
LyXVersion=lyx-2.1.0beta2
QtConfigureOptions=-debug-and-release Qt4API=${Qt4API} 
Qt4Version=${Qt4Version} \
 sh ${LyXVersion}/development/LyX-Mac-binary-release.sh \
   --with-sdkroot=10.8 --with-macosx-target=10.6 --with-arch=${ARCH} \
   --with-qt4-dir=$HOME/lyx-build/qt-${Qt4Version}-frameworks${Qt4API}-${ARCH}

Stephan

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Chris Menzel]

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
...We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
 well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
 version on a more regular basis.

Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X 10.9
and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what to do to
help.

-chris

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Richard Heck]

On 02/03/2014 08:04 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

...We have had
this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
version on a more regular basis.

Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X 10.9
and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what to do to
help.


It has been suggested that someone produce a homebrew recipe that would 
allow more
ordinary users to compile and test the most recent versions, or even 
develop some
system that would produce nightly, or perhaps weekly, builds. It would 
be best if this
could be done for both trunk (2.1.dev) and branch (2.0.8dev, as things 
stand). Those
of us on Linux can do this fairly easily, of course, but it's harder for 
people on OSX
(or, God forbid, Windows). I confess that the one time I tried to 
compile LyX on OSX

I failed and gave up.

Richard

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
> 
> 
> Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck  > a écrit :
> 
> On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
> 
> On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
> 
> On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> 
> This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be uploaded.
> 
> As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform that
> seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had this
> problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus 
> whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every 
> combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many 
> of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So, well,
> we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX version
> on a more regular basis.
> 
> To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to 
> facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least
> for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no
> hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even
> compiling first.
> 
> 
> This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to 
> use homebrew would need to do it.
> 
> 
> I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested
> in helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.

I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern a
"normal" user.

Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to create the
LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to compile on mac?

Cheers,

Rainer


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
> 
> rh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- NEW GERMAN FAX NUMBER!!!
> 
> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation 
> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
> 
> Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Natural Sciences
> Building Office Suite 2039 Stellenbosch University Main Campus,
> Merriman Avenue Stellenbosch South Africa
> 
> Cell:   +27 - (0)83 9479 042 Fax:+27 - (0)86
> 516 2782 Fax:+49 - (0)321 2125 2244 email:
> rai...@krugs.de 
> 
> Skype:  RMkrug Google: r.m.k...@gmail.com
> 
> 

- -- 
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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax :   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug :

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck > > a écrit :
>> 
>> On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>> 
>> On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
>> 
>> On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> 
>> This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be uploaded.
>> 
>> As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform that
>> seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had this
>> problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus 
>> whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every 
>> combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many 
>> of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So, well,
>> we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX version
>> on a more regular basis.
>> 
>> To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to 
>> facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least
>> for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no
>> hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even
>> compiling first.
>> 
>> 
>> This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to 
>> use homebrew would need to do it.
>> 
>> 
>> I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested
>> in helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.
> 
> I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern a
> "normal" user.
> 
> Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to create the
> LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to compile on mac?

Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider INSTALL.MacOSX?

Stephan

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 02/03/14, 11:07 , Stephan Witt wrote:
> Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug :
> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck >> > a écrit :
>>> 
>>> On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>> 
>>> This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
>>> uploaded.
>>> 
>>> As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
>>> that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
>>> this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa
>>> versus whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test
>>> every combination, and we have only a couple active OSX
>>> developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts
>>> of reasons. So, well, we could really use a couple people who
>>> could test the OSX version on a more regular basis.
>>> 
>>> To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe
>>> to facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At
>>> least for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as
>>> it is no hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and
>>> installing, or even compiling first.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how
>>> to use homebrew would need to do it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be
>>> interested in helping. But apparently, it is not that
>>> difficult.
>> 
>> I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern
>> a "normal" user.
>> 
>> Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to
>> create the LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to
>> compile on mac?
> 
> Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider
> INSTALL.MacOSX?

Shame on me - there it is, in the obvious place.

Thanks, I'll look into it,

Rainer

> 
> Stephan
> 

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Stephan Witt]

Am 03.02.2014 um 11:34 schrieb Rainer M Krug :

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/03/14, 11:07 , Stephan Witt wrote:
>> Am 03.02.2014 um 10:56 schrieb Rainer M Krug :
>> 
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/31/14, 20:28 , Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 
 Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck > a écrit :
 
 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
 
 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.
 
 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa
 versus whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test
 every combination, and we have only a couple active OSX
 developers. Many of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts
 of reasons. So, well, we could really use a couple people who
 could test the OSX version on a more regular basis.
 
 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe
 to facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At
 least for me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as
 it is no hassle at all (in contrast to downloading and
 installing, or even compiling first.
 
 
 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how
 to use homebrew would need to do it.
 
 
 I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be
 interested in helping. But apparently, it is not that
 difficult.
>>> 
>>> I am using this to the devel lits as this does not (yet?) concern
>>> a "normal" user.
>>> 
>>> Looking into this, I am wondering: what are the settings to
>>> create the LyX binary for Mac? I could not find a hotwo on how to
>>> compile on mac?
>> 
>> Possibly a little bit outdated - but did you consider
>> INSTALL.MacOSX?
> 
> Shame on me - there it is, in the obvious place.
> 
> Thanks, I'll look into it,

No problem. I'll happily update it's contents to reflect your
findings on this matter. For LyX 2.1.X e.g. the gettext requirement
doesn't exist anymore. The Qt version for production is 4.8.5.
For development I've tried 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 too. 
Version 5.2 definitively doesn't work - the menu is missing
almost completely. On current Mac systems Qt-Carbon isn't
available anymore.

I'm using the script development/LyX-Mac-binary-release.sh.
Something like that (note the back slashes):

ARCH=x86_64
Qt4Version=4.8.5
Qt4API=-cocoa
LyXVersion=lyx-2.1.0beta2
QtConfigureOptions="-debug-and-release" Qt4API=${Qt4API} 
Qt4Version=${Qt4Version} \
 sh ${LyXVersion}/development/LyX-Mac-binary-release.sh \
   --with-sdkroot=10.8 --with-macosx-target=10.6 --with-arch=${ARCH} \
   --with-qt4-dir=$HOME/lyx-build/qt-${Qt4Version}-frameworks${Qt4API}-${ARCH}

Stephan

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Chris Menzel]

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
>...We have had
> this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
> whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
> combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
> of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
> well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
> version on a more regular basis.

Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X 10.9
and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what to do to
help.

-chris

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Richard Heck]

On 02/03/2014 08:04 PM, Chris Menzel wrote:

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

...We have had
this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
version on a more regular basis.

Well, I'm running 2.1.0 dev (with good stability) on both OS X 10.9
and Linux on a Chromebook (thanks to Crouton). Tell me what to do to
help.


It has been suggested that someone produce a homebrew recipe that would 
allow more
"ordinary users" to compile and test the most recent versions, or even 
develop some
system that would produce nightly, or perhaps weekly, builds. It would 
be best if this
could be done for both trunk (2.1.dev) and branch (2.0.8dev, as things 
stand). Those
of us on Linux can do this fairly easily, of course, but it's harder for 
people on OSX
(or, God forbid, Windows). I confess that the one time I tried to 
compile LyX on OSX

I failed and gave up.

Richard

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Richard Heck]

On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
uploaded.

As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
version on a more regular basis.

To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
first.


This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use 
homebrew would need to do it.


rh

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

31/01/2014 15:34, Richard Heck:

On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
first.


This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
homebrew would need to do it.


Or find a service somewhere that would build nightlies for us...

JMarc

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org a
écrit :

 31/01/2014 15:34, Richard Heck:

 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
 me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
 at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
 first.


 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
 homebrew would need to do it.


 Or find a service somewhere that would build nightlies for us...


This together with an update function from within LyX would work as well -
but the update from within LyX would be important  as otherwise one has to
manually visit the website and download to update.

Cheers,

Rainer


 JMarc



-- 
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UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :

 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.

 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
 well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
 version on a more regular basis.

 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
 me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
 at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
 first.


 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
 homebrew would need to do it.


I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested in
helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.

Cheers,

Rainer



 rh




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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Richard Heck]

On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
uploaded.

As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
version on a more regular basis.

To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
first.


This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use 
homebrew would need to do it.


rh

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

31/01/2014 15:34, Richard Heck:

On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
first.


This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
homebrew would need to do it.


Or find a service somewhere that would build nightlies for us...

JMarc

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org a
écrit :

 31/01/2014 15:34, Richard Heck:

 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
 me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
 at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
 first.


 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
 homebrew would need to do it.


 Or find a service somewhere that would build nightlies for us...


This together with an update function from within LyX would work as well -
but the update from within LyX would be important  as otherwise one has to
manually visit the website and download to update.

Cheers,

Rainer


 JMarc



-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org a écrit :

 On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

 On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

 On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.

 As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
 that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
 this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
 whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
 combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
 of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
 well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
 version on a more regular basis.

 To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
 facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
 me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
 at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
 first.


 This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
 homebrew would need to do it.


I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested in
helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.

Cheers,

Rainer



 rh




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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Richard Heck]

On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:

On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
uploaded.

As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
version on a more regular basis.

To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
first.


This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use 
homebrew would need to do it.


rh

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

31/01/2014 15:34, Richard Heck:

On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
first.


This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
homebrew would need to do it.


Or find a service somewhere that would build nightlies for us...

JMarc

Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  a
écrit :

> 31/01/2014 15:34, Richard Heck:
>
>> On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>
>>> To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
>>> facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
>>> me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
>>> at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
>>> first.
>>>
>>
>> This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
>> homebrew would need to do it.
>>
>
> Or find a service somewhere that would build nightlies for us...


This together with an update function from within LyX would work as well -
but the update from within LyX would be important  as otherwise one has to
manually visit the website and download to update.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
> JMarc
>
>

-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

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Re: Facilitate testing on OSX - WAS: menu bar lost in OS X

[Rainer M Krug]

Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014, Richard Heck  a écrit :

> On 01/30/2014 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
>
>> On 01/29/14, 02:41 , Richard Heck wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>>>
 This should be fixed shortly and a new installer will be
 uploaded.

>>> As often, this is due to changes in the underlying Qt platform
>>> that seem to exist only on certain versions of OSX. We have had
>>> this problem before, and there are other issues about Cocoa versus
>>> whatever versus whatever else. It is difficult to test every
>>> combination, and we have only a couple active OSX developers. Many
>>> of them use trunk (2.1.dev) for obvious sorts of reasons. So,
>>> well, we could really use a couple people who could test the OSX
>>> version on a more regular basis.
>>>
>> To facilitate this, may I suggest to create a homebrew recipe to
>> facilitate the installation and update of the latest LyX? At least for
>> me, I would likely use (and update) it regularly  as it is no hassle
>> at all (in contrast to downloading and installing, or even compiling
>> first.
>>
>
> This is a great idea, but of course someone on OSX who knew how to use
> homebrew would need to do it.


I'll ask on the homebrew list if there would somebody be interested in
helping. But apparently, it is not that difficult.

Cheers,

Rainer


>
> rh
>
>
>

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Main Campus, Merriman Avenue
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