Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
clipboard manager). But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04). But for
images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png

then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
Move to Clipboard button. Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

This can't be that complicated. Am I doing something wrong?

Liviu


 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install

 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.

 Best,

 Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
 clipboard manager).

Yes, it is heavy and more complicated. If you want a lightweight and
quick clipboard manager, this is not for you. If you want one that you
can do whatever you want with and have a little time to spend to learn
it, it should be considered.

 But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
 text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04).

Strange. I do not notice the bit slow. Perhaps I just got used to
it, but I don't remember that. Slow in what? After you type copy c you
see a pause? or after copy v? Or after one of the commands we're
talking about?

 But for
 images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
 copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png
 then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
 Move to Clipboard button.

Try copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png  copyq select 0

 Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
 this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

LibO must not handle image/png (perhaps this should be requested of LibO).
LibO does seem to handle image/bmp

So do
convert newfile2.png convert newfile2.bmp
copyq write image/bmp -  newfile2.bmp  copyq select 0

Now it will paste into LibO.

By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work? I copied an image
in Chromium by right-clicking and going to copy image.
I then tried to paste it in LibO. It worked. I opened up CopyQ (by
clicking on show/hide in the tray icon). I right-clicked on the
picture item (which should display as an actual picture) and clicked
on Show Content. Then in the left column under Formats you will
see all of the MIME types. These are all of the types that LibO can
choose from when it receives a paste. I guessed that it went for the
bmp.

If you have any other questions, consider the CopyQ google group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/copyq
It looks lonely there but that's just because no one is asking
questions. When someone does, Lukas is very quick.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
 clipboard manager).

 Yes, it is heavy and more complicated. If you want a lightweight and
 quick clipboard manager, this is not for you. If you want one that you
 can do whatever you want with and have a little time to spend to learn
 it, it should be considered.

 But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
 text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04).

 Strange. I do not notice the bit slow. Perhaps I just got used to
 it, but I don't remember that. Slow in what? After you type copy c you
 see a pause? or after copy v? Or after one of the commands we're
 talking about?

After the 'v', but maybe it's just my system swapping.


 But for
 images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
 copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png
 then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
 Move to Clipboard button.

 Try copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png  copyq select 0

Aha! So that's how it's done. Then 'v' works fine in LyX. But also in
Gimp and mtPaint. Cool.


 Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
 this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

 LibO must not handle image/png (perhaps this should be requested of LibO).
 LibO does seem to handle image/bmp

 So do
 convert newfile2.png convert newfile2.bmp
 copyq write image/bmp -  newfile2.bmp  copyq select 0

 Now it will paste into LibO.

Oh, nice to know. (And how strange of LibO!)


 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

Thanks,
Liviu

 I copied an image
 in Chromium by right-clicking and going to copy image.
 I then tried to paste it in LibO. It worked. I opened up CopyQ (by
 clicking on show/hide in the tray icon). I right-clicked on the
 picture item (which should display as an actual picture) and clicked
 on Show Content. Then in the left column under Formats you will
 see all of the MIME types. These are all of the types that LibO can
 choose from when it receives a paste. I guessed that it went for the
 bmp.

 If you have any other questions, consider the CopyQ google group:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/copyq
 It looks lonely there but that's just because no one is asking
 questions. When someone does, Lukas is very quick.

 Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

 Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
what they say if you end up reporting this.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

 Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

 Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
 It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
 In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
 what they say if you end up reporting this.

I now tried to set up a converter in LyX, but it didn't quite go to plan:
#
# FORMATS SECTION ##
#

\format copyq1  CopyQ (PDF)document,menu=export 

#
# CONVERTERS SECTION ##
#

\converter pdf7 copyq1 copyq write application/pdf -  $$i 
copyq select 0 

I'm not sure what's wrong. CopyQ (PDF) wouldn't appear in the menus,
and seemed to fail when activated manually. I'm not sure that our
converters are designed to deal with something like this.

Liviu


 Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

 Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

 Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
 It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
 In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
 what they say if you end up reporting this.

 I now tried to set up a converter in LyX, but it didn't quite go to plan:
 #
 # FORMATS SECTION ##
 #

 \format copyq1  CopyQ (PDF)document,menu=export 

 #
 # CONVERTERS SECTION ##
 #

 \converter pdf7 copyq1 copyq write application/pdf -  $$i 
 copyq select 0 

 I'm not sure what's wrong. CopyQ (PDF) wouldn't appear in the menus,
 and seemed to fail when activated manually. I'm not sure that our
 converters are designed to deal with something like this.

For debugging converters I suggest creating a script and then putting
the commands in sequentially. This way in the script you can put
something like
echo script ran with argument $1  /home/liviu/Desktop/test.log
copyq write application/pdf -  $1  echo copyq write succeeded 
/home/liviu/Desktop/test.log
copyq select 0  echo copyq select succeeded  /home/liviu/Desktop/test.log

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
clipboard manager). But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04). But for
images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png

then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
Move to Clipboard button. Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

This can't be that complicated. Am I doing something wrong?

Liviu


 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install

 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.

 Best,

 Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
 clipboard manager).

Yes, it is heavy and more complicated. If you want a lightweight and
quick clipboard manager, this is not for you. If you want one that you
can do whatever you want with and have a little time to spend to learn
it, it should be considered.

 But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
 text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04).

Strange. I do not notice the bit slow. Perhaps I just got used to
it, but I don't remember that. Slow in what? After you type copy c you
see a pause? or after copy v? Or after one of the commands we're
talking about?

 But for
 images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
 copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png
 then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
 Move to Clipboard button.

Try copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png  copyq select 0

 Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
 this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

LibO must not handle image/png (perhaps this should be requested of LibO).
LibO does seem to handle image/bmp

So do
convert newfile2.png convert newfile2.bmp
copyq write image/bmp -  newfile2.bmp  copyq select 0

Now it will paste into LibO.

By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work? I copied an image
in Chromium by right-clicking and going to copy image.
I then tried to paste it in LibO. It worked. I opened up CopyQ (by
clicking on show/hide in the tray icon). I right-clicked on the
picture item (which should display as an actual picture) and clicked
on Show Content. Then in the left column under Formats you will
see all of the MIME types. These are all of the types that LibO can
choose from when it receives a paste. I guessed that it went for the
bmp.

If you have any other questions, consider the CopyQ google group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/copyq
It looks lonely there but that's just because no one is asking
questions. When someone does, Lukas is very quick.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
 clipboard manager).

 Yes, it is heavy and more complicated. If you want a lightweight and
 quick clipboard manager, this is not for you. If you want one that you
 can do whatever you want with and have a little time to spend to learn
 it, it should be considered.

 But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
 text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04).

 Strange. I do not notice the bit slow. Perhaps I just got used to
 it, but I don't remember that. Slow in what? After you type copy c you
 see a pause? or after copy v? Or after one of the commands we're
 talking about?

After the 'v', but maybe it's just my system swapping.


 But for
 images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
 copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png
 then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
 Move to Clipboard button.

 Try copyq write image/png -  newfile2.png  copyq select 0

Aha! So that's how it's done. Then 'v' works fine in LyX. But also in
Gimp and mtPaint. Cool.


 Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
 this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

 LibO must not handle image/png (perhaps this should be requested of LibO).
 LibO does seem to handle image/bmp

 So do
 convert newfile2.png convert newfile2.bmp
 copyq write image/bmp -  newfile2.bmp  copyq select 0

 Now it will paste into LibO.

Oh, nice to know. (And how strange of LibO!)


 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

Thanks,
Liviu

 I copied an image
 in Chromium by right-clicking and going to copy image.
 I then tried to paste it in LibO. It worked. I opened up CopyQ (by
 clicking on show/hide in the tray icon). I right-clicked on the
 picture item (which should display as an actual picture) and clicked
 on Show Content. Then in the left column under Formats you will
 see all of the MIME types. These are all of the types that LibO can
 choose from when it receives a paste. I guessed that it went for the
 bmp.

 If you have any other questions, consider the CopyQ google group:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/copyq
 It looks lonely there but that's just because no one is asking
 questions. When someone does, Lukas is very quick.

 Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

 Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
what they say if you end up reporting this.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

 Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

 Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
 It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
 In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
 what they say if you end up reporting this.

I now tried to set up a converter in LyX, but it didn't quite go to plan:
#
# FORMATS SECTION ##
#

\format copyq1  CopyQ (PDF)document,menu=export 

#
# CONVERTERS SECTION ##
#

\converter pdf7 copyq1 copyq write application/pdf -  $$i 
copyq select 0 

I'm not sure what's wrong. CopyQ (PDF) wouldn't appear in the menus,
and seemed to fail when activated manually. I'm not sure that our
converters are designed to deal with something like this.

Liviu


 Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

 Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

 Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
 It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
 In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
 what they say if you end up reporting this.

 I now tried to set up a converter in LyX, but it didn't quite go to plan:
 #
 # FORMATS SECTION ##
 #

 \format copyq1  CopyQ (PDF)document,menu=export 

 #
 # CONVERTERS SECTION ##
 #

 \converter pdf7 copyq1 copyq write application/pdf -  $$i 
 copyq select 0 

 I'm not sure what's wrong. CopyQ (PDF) wouldn't appear in the menus,
 and seemed to fail when activated manually. I'm not sure that our
 converters are designed to deal with something like this.

For debugging converters I suggest creating a script and then putting
the commands in sequentially. This way in the script you can put
something like
echo script ran with argument $1  /home/liviu/Desktop/test.log
copyq write application/pdf -  $1  echo copyq write succeeded 
/home/liviu/Desktop/test.log
copyq select 0  echo copyq select succeeded  /home/liviu/Desktop/test.log

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
>
>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>> how exactly that could work.
>
> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>
> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>
This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
clipboard manager). But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04). But for
images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
copyq write image/png - < newfile2.png

then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
Move to Clipboard button. Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

This can't be that complicated. Am I doing something wrong?

Liviu


> For more info, see
> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>
> To install, I believe it's a simple
> cmake .
> make
> sudo make install
>
> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
> you want help with anything.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>>> how exactly that could work.
>>
>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>
>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>
> This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
> clipboard manager).

Yes, it is heavy and more complicated. If you want a lightweight and
quick clipboard manager, this is not for you. If you want one that you
can do whatever you want with and have a little time to spend to learn
it, it should be considered.

> But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
> text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04).

Strange. I do not notice the "bit slow". Perhaps I just got used to
it, but I don't remember that. Slow in what? After you type copy c you
see a pause? or after copy v? Or after one of the commands we're
talking about?

> But for
> images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
> copyq write image/png - < newfile2.png
> then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
> Move to Clipboard button.

Try copyq write image/png - < newfile2.png && copyq select 0

> Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
> this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).

LibO must not handle image/png (perhaps this should be requested of LibO).
LibO does seem to handle image/bmp

So do
convert newfile2.png convert newfile2.bmp
copyq write image/bmp - < newfile2.bmp && copyq select 0

Now it will paste into LibO.

By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work? I copied an image
in Chromium by right-clicking and going to "copy image".
I then tried to paste it in LibO. It worked. I opened up CopyQ (by
clicking on show/hide in the tray icon). I right-clicked on the
picture item (which should display as an actual picture) and clicked
on "Show Content". Then in the left column under "Formats" you will
see all of the MIME types. These are all of the types that LibO can
choose from when it receives a paste. I guessed that it went for the
bmp.

If you have any other questions, consider the CopyQ google group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/copyq
It looks lonely there but that's just because no one is asking
questions. When someone does, Lukas is very quick.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
>>>
>>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>>
>>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>>
>> This looks very promising (although this is one seriously complicated
>> clipboard manager).
>
> Yes, it is heavy and more complicated. If you want a lightweight and
> quick clipboard manager, this is not for you. If you want one that you
> can do whatever you want with and have a little time to spend to learn
> it, it should be considered.
>
>> But I'm a bit lost as to how it works. Copy/paste
>> text is a bit slow but works fine (v 2.0.1 on Xubuntu 12.04).
>
> Strange. I do not notice the "bit slow". Perhaps I just got used to
> it, but I don't remember that. Slow in what? After you type copy c you
> see a pause? or after copy v? Or after one of the commands we're
> talking about?
>
After the 'v', but maybe it's just my system swapping.


>> But for
>> images or pdf, I need to proceed as follows:
>> copyq write image/png - < newfile2.png
>> then I need to open CopyQ, select the item labeled 0, then hit the
>> Move to Clipboard button.
>
> Try copyq write image/png - < newfile2.png && copyq select 0
>
Aha! So that's how it's done. Then 'v' works fine in LyX. But also in
Gimp and mtPaint. Cool.


>> Now ctrl+v in LyX will paste the image (but
>> this doesn't seem to work in LibO, though).
>
> LibO must not handle image/png (perhaps this should be requested of LibO).
> LibO does seem to handle image/bmp
>
> So do
> convert newfile2.png convert newfile2.bmp
> copyq write image/bmp - < newfile2.bmp && copyq select 0
>
> Now it will paste into LibO.
>
Oh, nice to know. (And how strange of LibO!)


> By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?
>
Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

Thanks,
Liviu

> I copied an image
> in Chromium by right-clicking and going to "copy image".
> I then tried to paste it in LibO. It worked. I opened up CopyQ (by
> clicking on show/hide in the tray icon). I right-clicked on the
> picture item (which should display as an actual picture) and clicked
> on "Show Content". Then in the left column under "Formats" you will
> see all of the MIME types. These are all of the types that LibO can
> choose from when it receives a paste. I guessed that it went for the
> bmp.
>
> If you have any other questions, consider the CopyQ google group:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/copyq
> It looks lonely there but that's just because no one is asking
> questions. When someone does, Lukas is very quick.
>
> Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

>> By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?
>>
> Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.

Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
what they say if you end up reporting this.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic  
> wrote:
>
>>> By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?
>>>
>> Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.
>
> Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
> It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
> In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
> what they say if you end up reporting this.
>
I now tried to set up a converter in LyX, but it didn't quite go to plan:
#
# FORMATS SECTION ##
#

\format "copyq1" "" "CopyQ (PDF)" "" "" "" "document,menu=export" ""

#
# CONVERTERS SECTION ##
#

\converter "pdf7" "copyq1" "copyq write application/pdf - < $$i &&
copyq select 0" ""

I'm not sure what's wrong. CopyQ (PDF) wouldn't appear in the menus,
and seemed to fail when activated manually. I'm not sure that our
converters are designed to deal with something like this.

Liviu


> Scott



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>> wrote:
>>
 By the way, how did I find out that bmp will work?

>>> Not smoothly. :) I ended up with a black box in LibO.
>>
>> Strange, works for me. I have version 4.1.3.
>> It actually appears that LibO prefers either the text/uri-list or text/html.
>> In any case, this is a LibO issue in my opinion. I'd be curious to see
>> what they say if you end up reporting this.
>>
> I now tried to set up a converter in LyX, but it didn't quite go to plan:
> #
> # FORMATS SECTION ##
> #
>
> \format "copyq1" "" "CopyQ (PDF)" "" "" "" "document,menu=export" ""
>
> #
> # CONVERTERS SECTION ##
> #
>
> \converter "pdf7" "copyq1" "copyq write application/pdf - < $$i &&
> copyq select 0" ""
>
> I'm not sure what's wrong. CopyQ (PDF) wouldn't appear in the menus,
> and seemed to fail when activated manually. I'm not sure that our
> converters are designed to deal with something like this.

For debugging converters I suggest creating a script and then putting
the commands in sequentially. This way in the script you can put
something like
echo "script ran with argument $1" > /home/liviu/Desktop/test.log
copyq write application/pdf - < $1 && echo "copyq write succeeded" >>
/home/liviu/Desktop/test.log
copyq select 0 && echo "copyq select succeeded" >> /home/liviu/Desktop/test.log

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.

It's on the guy's web site https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ, under Dependencies.
Jerry

 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.
 
 Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:
 
 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run 
 the application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there 
 is also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need 
 at least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.
 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.
 
 Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.
 
 Stephan

Oops--shot off a reply to your other note before reading this one.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.

It's on the guy's web site https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ, under Dependencies.
Jerry

 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.
 
 Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:
 
 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run 
 the application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there 
 is also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need 
 at least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.
 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.
 
 Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.
 
 Stephan

Oops--shot off a reply to your other note before reading this one.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry :
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
>>> 
>>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>> 
>>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>> 
>>> For more info, see
>>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>>> 
>>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>>> cmake .
>>> make
>>> sudo make install
>>> 
>>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>>> you want help with anything.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>> 
>> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
>> for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
>> reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
>> access to other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
>> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
>> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
>> least Qt 5.2."
> 
> Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: "To 
> compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version."

It's on the guy's web site https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ, under Dependencies.
Jerry

> 
>> 
>> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
>> run?
> 
> The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
> build it.
> So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
> matter.
> 
> Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt :
> 
>> Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry :
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
 wrote:
 
> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
> how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
>>> 
>>> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
>>> for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
>>> reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
>>> access to other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run 
>>> the application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there 
>>> is also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need 
>>> at least Qt 5.2."
>> 
>> Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: "To 
>> compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version."
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
>>> run?
>> 
>> The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
>> build it.
>> So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
>> matter.
> 
> Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.
> 
> Stephan

Oops--shot off a reply to your other note before reading this one.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.

Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
how exactly that could work.

Liviu

 I use OS X and I notice that LyX is now AppleScriptable. Maybe there's a 
 solution using AppleScript.

 Jerry



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
over lightweight) but it is not well known.

To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

For more info, see
https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

To install, I believe it's a simple
cmake .
make
sudo make install

First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
you want help with anything.

Best,

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the application 
you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is also experimental 
support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at least Qt 5.2.

Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to run?

Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install

 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.

 Best,

 Scott

 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

Yes, unless I guess it is compiled statically with the libraries. But
you should ask Lukáš. Send him an email or join co...@googlegroups.com
and post there.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.
 
 Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
 opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

Done.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:

 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To compile 
with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.

 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
build it.
So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
matter.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.
 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.

Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.

Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
how exactly that could work.

Liviu

 I use OS X and I notice that LyX is now AppleScriptable. Maybe there's a 
 solution using AppleScript.

 Jerry



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
over lightweight) but it is not well known.

To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

For more info, see
https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

To install, I believe it's a simple
cmake .
make
sudo make install

First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
you want help with anything.

Best,

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the application 
you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is also experimental 
support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at least Qt 5.2.

Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to run?

Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.

 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.

 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg

 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install

 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.

 Best,

 Scott

 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

Yes, unless I guess it is compiled statically with the libraries. But
you should ask Lukáš. Send him an email or join co...@googlegroups.com
and post there.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
 would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
 pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
 standalone equation editor for other applications.
 
 Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
 opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

Done.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:

 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
 OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
 for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
 other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.

Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To compile 
with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.

 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?

The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
build it.
So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
matter.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net:
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
 
 Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
 works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
 experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
 responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
 I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
 clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
 over lightweight) but it is not well known.
 
 To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
 copyq write image/svg -  image.svg
 
 For more info, see
 https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
 
 To install, I believe it's a simple
 cmake .
 make
 sudo make install
 
 First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
 instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
 you want help with anything.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
 for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
 reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
 access to other versions. Also, the web site states, To compile and run the 
 application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
 also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
 least Qt 5.2.
 
 Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: To 
 compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version.
 
 
 Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
 run?
 
 The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
 build it.
 So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
 matter.

Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry  wrote:
> Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
> 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
> would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
> pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
> standalone equation editor for other applications.
>
Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
how exactly that could work.

Liviu

> I use OS X and I notice that LyX is now AppleScriptable. Maybe there's a 
> solution using AppleScript.
>
> Jerry



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Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
> how exactly that could work.

Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
over lightweight) but it is not well known.

To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
copyq write image/svg - < image.svg

For more info, see
https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ

To install, I believe it's a simple
cmake .
make
sudo make install

First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
you want help with anything.

Best,

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> 
>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>> how exactly that could work.
> 
> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
> 
> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
> 
> For more info, see
> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
> 
> To install, I believe it's a simple
> cmake .
> make
> sudo make install
> 
> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
> you want help with anything.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the application 
you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is also experimental 
support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at least Qt 5.2."

Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to run?

Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Jerry  wrote:
>
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>>> how exactly that could work.
>>
>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>
>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>
>> For more info, see
>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>>
>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>> cmake .
>> make
>> sudo make install
>>
>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>> you want help with anything.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott
>
> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
> OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
> for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
> other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
> least Qt 5.2."
>
> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
> run?

Yes, unless I guess it is compiled statically with the libraries. But
you should ask Lukáš. Send him an email or join co...@googlegroups.com
and post there.

Scott

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Jerry]

On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> Nice to see the ability to export a LyX file as a cropped PDF in version 
>> 2.1.0.x. However, the document is actually exported as a file, whereas it 
>> would more useful if it were instead or also placed on the clipboard for 
>> pasting into another document--that would fully allow LyX to be used as a 
>> standalone equation editor for other applications.
>> 
> Good idea. I'm not sure how easy this would be, but do consider
> opening a feature request on the bug tracker.

Done.
Jerry

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry :

> 
> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
>>> image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
>>> PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
>>> for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
>>> have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
>>> how exactly that could work.
>> 
>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>> 
>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>> 
>> For more info, see
>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>> 
>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>> cmake .
>> make
>> sudo make install
>> 
>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>> you want help with anything.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Scott
> 
> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support for 
> OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete reason 
> for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of access to 
> other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
> least Qt 5.2."

Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: "To compile 
with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version."

> 
> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
> run?

The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
build it.
So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
matter.

Stephan

Re: How to get cropped PDF graphic on the clipboard

[Stephan Witt]

Am 04.04.2014 um 07:10 schrieb Stephan Witt :

> Am 04.04.2014 um 00:13 schrieb Jerry :
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Liviu Andronic  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 One idea would be to use a commandline utility that allows copying
 image files to the clipboard, and create a new converter from
 PDF(cropped) towards this utility. But so far I couldn't find anything
 for Linux, let alone cross-platform. Otherwise, I'm wondering if we
 have an LFUN that would provide this functionality. But I'm not sure
 how exactly that could work.
>>> 
>>> Good idea Liviu. I recommend CopyQ if you want to implement this. It
>>> works great on Linux, supposedly works on Windows, and support is
>>> experimental on OS X 10.9+. The author of CopyQ is extremely
>>> responsive to features and bug reports (he implemented a feature that
>>> I'm pretty sure only I use, just for me). This is one of the best
>>> clipboard managers out there (although note the focus is on features
>>> over lightweight) but it is not well known.
>>> 
>>> To put an image on the clipboard, you can do e.g.
>>> copyq write image/svg - < image.svg
>>> 
>>> For more info, see
>>> https://github.com/hluk/CopyQ
>>> 
>>> To install, I believe it's a simple
>>> cmake .
>>> make
>>> sudo make install
>>> 
>>> First you must have dependencies. See the INSTALL file for explicit
>>> instructions for which packages you need for Ubuntu. Let me know if
>>> you want help with anything.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>> 
>> Interesting solution, looks a bit bloaty as noted by Scott. Also, support 
>> for OS X is a little concerning, at 10.9+. I wonder if there is a concrete 
>> reason for this limitation or perhaps it's due to the developer's lack of 
>> access to other versions. Also, the web site states, "To compile and run the 
>> application you'll need the latest stable version of Qt library (there is 
>> also experimental support for Qt 5). To compile on OS X, you will need at 
>> least Qt 5.2."
> 
> Where did you find this? It's not totally correct. It should read: "To 
> compile with Qt 5 on Mac Qt5.2 is the first feature complete version."
> 
>> 
>> Dumb question: if Qt 5.2 is required to compile on OS X, is it required to 
>> run?
> 
> The official package on Mac OS X contains the private Qt frameworks used to 
> build it.
> So, you don't have to install any Qt package to run LyX. The version doesn't 
> matter.

Ah, I got it. You're talking about CopyQ, not LyX. Sorry for the confusion.

Stephan