Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 11/04/2016 09:16 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2016-11-04, Michael Berger wrote: On 11/02/2016 02:16 PM, Michael Berger wrote: On 11/02/2016 10:02 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: re Unicode(utf8) prevents inserting certain symbols in body text. (Inserting (in the LyX GUI) is not a problem, the error occures when you export with 8-bit LaTeX.) So, the subject of this thread is misleading, there is nothing wrong with Insert>Special Character>Symbols. (You can export to HTML or with Xe/LuaTeX and non-TeX fonts without problems.) I found a way to work around the problem: - Insert > Special character > Symbols > e.g. 'Mathematical Operator' - select the symbol you want to use. - select that very symbol and click on the 'Insert math' icon of the tool bar. - bingo This works, because non-ASCII characters are always replaced in mathematical mode by LyX (unless you use Xe/LuaTeX with "uniode-math". For Mathematical Operators, wrapping in a math-inset is a correct workaround/solution. For Dingbats or other text symbols this would be suboptimal (works but not "clean" because math-mode is for mathematical content). When using a math-inset, you can also use the LaTeX command instead of searching the symbol in "Special Character". (You find the name e.g. in the Source Preview Pane). LyX will show the symbols (for most supported mathematical symbols, at least) in the GUI and "do the right thing" on LaTeX export. Günter Ah Günter, your above explanations are highly interesting! Thanks. Michael
Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 2016-11-04, Michael Berger wrote: > On 11/02/2016 02:16 PM, Michael Berger wrote: >> On 11/02/2016 10:02 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: > re Unicode(utf8) prevents inserting certain symbols in body text. (Inserting (in the LyX GUI) is not a problem, the error occures when you export with 8-bit LaTeX.) So, the subject of this thread is misleading, there is nothing wrong with Insert>Special Character>Symbols. (You can export to HTML or with Xe/LuaTeX and non-TeX fonts without problems.) > I found a way to work around the problem: > - Insert > Special character > Symbols > e.g. 'Mathematical Operator' > - select the symbol you want to use. > - select that very symbol and click on the 'Insert math' icon of the > tool bar. > - bingo This works, because non-ASCII characters are always replaced in mathematical mode by LyX (unless you use Xe/LuaTeX with "uniode-math". For Mathematical Operators, wrapping in a math-inset is a correct workaround/solution. For Dingbats or other text symbols this would be suboptimal (works but not "clean" because math-mode is for mathematical content). When using a math-inset, you can also use the LaTeX command instead of searching the symbol in "Special Character". (You find the name e.g. in the Source Preview Pane). LyX will show the symbols (for most supported mathematical symbols, at least) in the GUI and "do the right thing" on LaTeX export. Günter
Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 11/04/2016 08:56 AM, Michael Berger wrote: On 11/02/2016 02:16 PM, Michael Berger wrote: On 11/02/2016 10:02 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2016-11-01, Michael Berger wrote: Dear all,Mageia5, Lyx 2.2.2, Texlive2016, using classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_biber In body text I try using using Insert > Special Character > Symbols > any category (e.g. Mathematical Operator) This worked in Lyx 2.1 but in Lyx 2.2.2 either an error is thrown out or nothing happens when compiling to PDF. Classicthesis uses Language Encoding Unicode (utf8). Is this a known issue? Are there alternatives to get the symbols right in my text? Many. But we cannot help without more info. Please provide a minimal example -- the smallest possible document that shows the problem. Günter Hallo Günter, re Unicode(utf8) prevents inserting certain symbols in body text. I found a way to work around the problem: - Insert > Special character > Symbols > e.g. 'Mathematical Operator' - select the symbol you want to use. - select that very symbol and click on the 'Insert math' icon of the tool bar. - bingo Cheers, Michael Sorry, I have to correct myself! It works for many symbols but unfortunately not for all. :'( Michael
Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 11/02/2016 02:16 PM, Michael Berger wrote: On 11/02/2016 10:02 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2016-11-01, Michael Berger wrote: Dear all,Mageia5, Lyx 2.2.2, Texlive2016, using classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_biber In body text I try using using Insert > Special Character > Symbols > any category (e.g. Mathematical Operator) This worked in Lyx 2.1 but in Lyx 2.2.2 either an error is thrown out or nothing happens when compiling to PDF. Classicthesis uses Language Encoding Unicode (utf8). Is this a known issue? Are there alternatives to get the symbols right in my text? Many. But we cannot help without more info. Please provide a minimal example -- the smallest possible document that shows the problem. Günter Hallo Günter, re Unicode(utf8) prevents inserting certain symbols in body text. I found a way to work around the problem: - Insert > Special character > Symbols > e.g. 'Mathematical Operator' - select the symbol you want to use. - select that very symbol and click on the 'Insert math' icon of the tool bar. - bingo Cheers, Michael
Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 2016-11-02, Michael Berger wrote: > On 11/02/2016 10:02 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: >>> This worked in Lyx 2.1 but in Lyx 2.2.2 either an error is thrown out or >>> nothing happens when compiling to PDF.Classicthesis uses Language Encoding >>> Unicode (utf8). >>> Is this a known issue? >>> Are there alternatives to get the symbols right in my text? >> Many. But we cannot help without more info. >> Please provide a minimal example -- the smallest possible document that >> shows the problem. ... > My original document is based on classicthesis.lyx v4.2 (biblatex_biber). > However, as I am almost certain that classicthesis is NOT the culprit > (and also for simplicity reasons) I attach two mini examples using the > document class KOMA Script Article. Thanks. > Evidently there seems to be an incompatibility with utf8 because the > problem vanishes when replacing it with another encoding. Indeed, this is a long known problem with poor utf8 support. The problem is fixed in the development version of lyx. You can either just use another encoding or download the lib/unicodesymbols file from the development version and put it in your local LYXDIR (~/.lyx/ on Unix). > It appears also that the problem applies to the whole category of > symbols, meaning that none symbol of e.g. the same category > 'Mathematical Operators' compiles. I also tried another five or six > categories and all behaved equally bad. Actually, it works for "Block Drawing Symbols" and most Latin, Greek and Cyrillic characters (the latter only with the correct language setting). but almost no other special symbol. Günter
Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 11/02/2016 10:02 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2016-11-01, Michael Berger wrote: Dear all,Mageia5, Lyx 2.2.2, Texlive2016, using classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_biber In body text I try using using Insert > Special Character > Symbols > any category (e.g. Mathematical Operator) This worked in Lyx 2.1 but in Lyx 2.2.2 either an error is thrown out or nothing happens when compiling to PDF.Classicthesis uses Language Encoding Unicode (utf8). Is this a known issue? Are there alternatives to get the symbols right in my text? Many. But we cannot help without more info. Please provide a minimal example -- the smallest possible document that shows the problem. This would allow to reproduce: * What error is shown * Which fonts do you use * Does it depend on document class classicthesis, * or on biblatex, biber, a specific bibentry. * Which symbols show the problem * ... Günter Hallo Günter, thanks for trying to help. My original document is based on classicthesis.lyx v4.2 (biblatex_biber). However, as I am almost certain that classicthesis is NOT the culprit (and also for simplicity reasons) I attach two mini examples using the document class KOMA Script Article. Evidently there seems to be an incompatibility with utf8 because the problem vanishes when replacing it with another encoding. I tried a number of other language encodings in my original document but was always rewarded serious errors. My document is rather voluminous and filled with linguistic elements. It appears also that the problem applies to the whole category of symbols, meaning that none symbol of e.g. the same category 'Mathematical Operators' compiles. I also tried another five or six categories and all behaved equally bad. Anyway, if you should need a mini file derived from my original document, please let me know. Michael symbols-default.lyx Description: application/lyx symbols-utf8.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Insert>Special Character> Symbols does not work in Lyx 2.2.2
On 2016-11-01, Michael Berger wrote: > Dear all, > Mageia5, Lyx 2.2.2, Texlive2016, using classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex_biber > In body text I try using using Insert > Special Character > Symbols > > any category (e.g. Mathematical Operator) > This worked in Lyx 2.1 but in Lyx 2.2.2 either an error is thrown out or > nothing happens when compiling to PDF. > Classicthesis uses Language Encoding Unicode (utf8). > Is this a known issue? > Are there alternatives to get the symbols right in my text? Many. But we cannot help without more info. Please provide a minimal example -- the smallest possible document that shows the problem. This would allow to reproduce: * What error is shown * Which fonts do you use * Does it depend on document class classicthesis, * or on biblatex, biber, a specific bibentry. * Which symbols show the problem * ... Günter
