subject:"Re\: LyX on Retina display"

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:

 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 philippe.h.lemoine at gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
  understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
  think it will be sometime during 2015?
 
 Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
 we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
 http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap
 
 Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
 about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.
 
 Liviu
 


In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in 
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the 
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a 
Retina screen would love that.

Re: LyX on Retina display

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 philippe.h.lemoine at gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
  understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
  think it will be sometime during 2015?
 
 Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
 we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
 http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

 Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
 about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

 Liviu



 In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
 the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
 next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
 Retina screen would love that.

That's major, not suitable for minor releases. I don't think the LyX
gods would entertain pushing a major change in the stable series.

Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: LyX on Retina display


On 01/14/2015 09:58 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemoine at gmail.com wrote:

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
think it will be sometime during 2015?


Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

Liviu



In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
Retina screen would love that.

That's major, not suitable for minor releases. I don't think the LyX
gods would entertain pushing a major change in the stable series.


It has been discussed, but there are a ton of code changes. Too many, I 
think, for a minor release.


Richard

Re: LyX on Retina display

2015-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 14/01/2015 15:44, Philippe Lemoine a écrit :

In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
Retina screen would love that.


There are 2 problems:

* the retina support requires many changes, and porting LyX to Qt5. This 
is too big to be backported (we did have the discussion),


* actually, the retina support of not completely finished (and there are 
some Qt bugs blocking us),


* the only thing beyond retina support that we are still waiting for is 
a set of large (or svg) icons),


As I understand it, all the other pieces are already in place for 2.2 
(except for all the bugs that people will find, of course).


JMarc

Re: LyX on Retina display


On 01/14/2015 07:12 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
think it will be sometime during 2015?


Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.


I think summer is realistic.

Richard

Re: LyX on Retina display

That screenshot was from my iMac but the quality is about the same on the
Macbook Pro.

-chris

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Chris Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thank you for posting that screenshot, Stephan. However, I believe I'm
getting much better resolution than in your screenshot (under Lyx 2.1.2.2)
on both my rMPB and my retina iMac by scaling up the resolution to the next
higher setting above the default (on the iMac, the Displays preference pane
calls it 2880x1620, but of course with the far higher retina pixel
density) and using MinionPro as the screen font:
http://cmenzel.org/LyX-screenshot.pdf. To my eyes, the scaled up setting
has no effect on the quality of the display in other programs (though you
might want to use larger fonts than you would with the default setting).
Others screen fonts that (unlike MinionPro
http://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2012/11/10/installing-minion-pro/)
are part of the MacTeX 2014 distribution, e.g., Palatino, seem to me to
look almost as good.

-chris

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org:

On 01/13/2015 09:11 AM, Philippe Lemoine wrote:
I was also wondering if there was any hope of seeing a version of LyX
that
supports Retina display anytime soon. There seems to be a patch out
there,
but I was under the impression that it was more like a hack and that
there
might be compatibility issues with future official versions of LyX.

If I'm not mistaken, we have hi-DPI support now in the master
development branch, but you have to use Qt 5.x to get it, and there are
still some bugs being ironed out. But I expect 2.2.0 to include this
feature, and we are working toward that now.

Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the
way and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished though.

But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.

To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-side
screen shot.
You can find it here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-13%20um%2022.11.55.png

Stephan

Re: LyX on Retina display

2015-01-14 Thread Scott Kostyshak

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:
 On 01/14/2015 07:12 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
 understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
 think it will be sometime during 2015?

 Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
 we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
 http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

 Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
 about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.


 I think summer is realistic.

Also note that we will release a beta before the final release. If you
are willing to accept the risk, you could try that. To be notified, I
believe we send out notifications on lyx-announce (see here to sign up
for that mailing list: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists).

Scott

Re: LyX on Retina display

-chris

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org:

Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the way
and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished though.

But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.

To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-side
screen shot.
You can find it here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-13%20um%2022.11.55.png

Stephan

Re: LyX on Retina display

Stephan Witt st.witt at gmx.net writes:

 
 Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck rgheck at lyx.org:
 
  On 01/13/2015 09:11 AM, Philippe Lemoine wrote:
  I was also wondering if there was any hope of seeing a version of 
LyX that
  supports Retina display anytime soon. There seems to be a patch out 
there,
  but I was under the impression that it was more like a hack and 
that there
  might be compatibility issues with future official versions of LyX.
  
  If I'm not mistaken, we have hi-DPI support now in the master 
development branch, but you have to use Qt 5.x
 to get it, and there are still some bugs being ironed out. But I 
expect 2.2.0 to include this feature, and we
 are working toward that now.
 
 Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the 
way and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
 There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished 
though.
 
 But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.
 
 To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-
side screen shot.
 You can find it here:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-
13%20um%2022.11.55.png
 
 Stephan
 

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I 
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you 
think it will be sometime during 2015?

Re: LyX on Retina display

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
 understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
 think it will be sometime during 2015?

Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: LyX on Retina display

Stephan Witt st.witt at gmx.net writes:

 
 Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck rgheck at lyx.org:
 
  On 01/13/2015 09:11 AM, Philippe Lemoine wrote:
  I was also wondering if there was any hope of seeing a version of 
LyX that
  supports Retina display anytime soon. There seems to be a patch out 
there,
  but I was under the impression that it was more like a hack and 
that there
  might be compatibility issues with future official versions of LyX.
  
  If I'm not mistaken, we have hi-DPI support now in the master 
development branch, but you have to use Qt 5.x
 to get it, and there are still some bugs being ironed out. But I 
expect 2.2.0 to include this feature, and we
 are working toward that now.
 
 Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the 
way and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
 There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished 
though.
 
 But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.
 
 To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-
side screen shot.
 You can find it here:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-
13%20um%2022.11.55.png
 
 Stephan
 

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I 
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you 
think it will be sometime during 2015?

Re: LyX on Retina display

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
 understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
 think it will be sometime during 2015?

Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: LyX on Retina display

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:

 
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 philippe.h.lemoine at gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
  understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
  think it will be sometime during 2015?
 
 Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
 we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
 http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap
 
 Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
 about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.
 
 Liviu
 


In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in 
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the 
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a 
Retina screen would love that.

Re: LyX on Retina display

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 philippe.h.lemoine at gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
  understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
  think it will be sometime during 2015?
 
 Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
 we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
 http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

 Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
 about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

 Liviu



 In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
 the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
 next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
 Retina screen would love that.

That's major, not suitable for minor releases. I don't think the LyX
gods would entertain pushing a major change in the stable series.

Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: LyX on Retina display


On 01/14/2015 07:12 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
think it will be sometime during 2015?


Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.


I think summer is realistic.

Richard

Re: LyX on Retina display


On 01/14/2015 09:58 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
philippe.h.lemoine at gmail.com wrote:

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
think it will be sometime during 2015?


Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

Liviu



In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
Retina screen would love that.

That's major, not suitable for minor releases. I don't think the LyX
gods would entertain pushing a major change in the stable series.


It has been discussed, but there are a ton of code changes. Too many, I 
think, for a minor release.


Richard

Re: LyX on Retina display

2015-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 14/01/2015 15:44, Philippe Lemoine a écrit :

In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
Retina screen would love that.


There are 2 problems:

* the retina support requires many changes, and porting LyX to Qt5. This 
is too big to be backported (we did have the discussion),


* actually, the retina support of not completely finished (and there are 
some Qt bugs blocking us),


* the only thing beyond retina support that we are still waiting for is 
a set of large (or svg) icons),


As I understand it, all the other pieces are already in place for 2.2 
(except for all the bugs that people will find, of course).


JMarc

Re: LyX on Retina display

2015-01-14 Thread Scott Kostyshak

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote:
 On 01/14/2015 07:12 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 philippe.h.lemo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
 understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
 think it will be sometime during 2015?

 Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
 we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
 http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

 Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
 about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.


 I think summer is realistic.

Also note that we will release a beta before the final release. If you
are willing to accept the risk, you could try that. To be notified, I
believe we send out notifications on lyx-announce (see here to sign up
for that mailing list: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists).

Scott

Re: LyX on Retina display

-chris

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org:

Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the way
and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished though.

But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.

To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-side
screen shot.
You can find it here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-13%20um%2022.11.55.png

Stephan

Re: LyX on Retina display

That screenshot was from my iMac but the quality is about the same on the
Macbook Pro.

-chris

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Chris Menzel chris.men...@gmail.com
wrote:

-chris

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:

Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org:

Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the
way and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished though.

But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.

To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-side
screen shot.
You can find it here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-13%20um%2022.11.55.png

Stephan

Re: LyX on Retina display

Stephan Witt  gmx.net> writes:

> 
> Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck  lyx.org>:
> 
> > On 01/13/2015 09:11 AM, Philippe Lemoine wrote:
> >> I was also wondering if there was any hope of seeing a version of 
LyX that
> >> supports Retina display anytime soon. There seems to be a patch out 
there,
> >> but I was under the impression that it was more like a hack and 
that there
> >> might be compatibility issues with future official versions of LyX.
> > 
> > If I'm not mistaken, we have hi-DPI support now in the master 
development branch, but you have to use Qt 5.x
> to get it, and there are still some bugs being ironed out. But I 
expect 2.2.0 to include this feature, and we
> are working toward that now.
> 
> Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the 
way and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
> There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished 
though.
> 
> But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.
> 
> To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-
side screen shot.
> You can find it here:
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-
13%20um%2022.11.55.png
> 
> Stephan
> 

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I 
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you 
think it will be sometime during 2015?

Re: LyX on Retina display

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 wrote:
> Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
> understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
> think it will be sometime during 2015?
>
Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: LyX on Retina display

Liviu Andronic  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
>  gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
> > understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
> > think it will be sometime during 2015?
> >
> Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
> we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
> http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap
> 
> Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
> about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.
> 
> Liviu
> 

In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in 
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the 
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a 
Retina screen would love that.

Re: LyX on Retina display

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 wrote:
> Liviu Andronic  gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
>>  gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
>> > understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
>> > think it will be sometime during 2015?
>> >
>> Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
>> we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
>> http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap
>>
>> Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
>> about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.
>>
>> Liviu
>>
>
>
> In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
> the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
> next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
> Retina screen would love that.
>
That's major, not suitable for minor releases. I don't think the LyX
gods would entertain pushing a major change in the stable series.

Liviu


-- 
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library

Re: LyX on Retina display


On 01/14/2015 07:12 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 wrote:

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
think it will be sometime during 2015?


Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.


I think summer is realistic.

Richard

Re: LyX on Retina display


On 01/14/2015 09:58 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 wrote:

Liviu Andronic  gmail.com> writes:


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
 gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
think it will be sometime during 2015?


Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap

Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.

Liviu



In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
Retina screen would love that.

That's major, not suitable for minor releases. I don't think the LyX
gods would entertain pushing a major change in the stable series.


It has been discussed, but there are a ton of code changes. Too many, I 
think, for a minor release.


Richard

Re: LyX on Retina display

2015-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes


Le 14/01/2015 15:44, Philippe Lemoine a écrit :

In that case, if Retina support is almost finished and already included in
the development version, would it not be possible to include it in the
next minor release before 2.2? I'm sure a lot of people who use LyX on a
Retina screen would love that.


There are 2 problems:

* the retina support requires many changes, and porting LyX to Qt5. This 
is too big to be backported (we did have the discussion),


* actually, the retina support of not completely finished (and there are 
some Qt bugs blocking us),


* the only thing beyond retina support that we are still waiting for is 
a set of large (or svg) icons),


As I understand it, all the other pieces are already in place for 2.2 
(except for all the bugs that people will find, of course).


JMarc

Re: LyX on Retina display

2015-01-14 Thread Scott Kostyshak

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Richard Heck  wrote:
> On 01/14/2015 07:12 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Philippe Lemoine
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot to you and everyone else! Just one last question: I
>>> understand that it's not clear when LyX 2.2.0 will be out, but do you
>>> think it will be sometime during 2015?
>>>
>> Given our historic performance in producing major releases, I'd say
>> we'd be lucky to see a release before end of 2015.
>> http://www.lyx.org/RoadMap
>>
>> Since we've already started discussing 2.2, optimistically I'd say in
>> about 6 months. Realistically, could take more than that.
>
>
> I think summer is realistic.

Also note that we will release a beta before the final release. If you
are willing to accept the risk, you could try that. To be notified, I
believe we send out notifications on lyx-announce (see here to sign up
for that mailing list: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists).

Scott

Re: LyX on Retina display

Thank you for posting that screenshot, Stephan. However, I believe I'm
getting much better resolution than in your screenshot (under Lyx 2.1.2.2)
on both my rMPB and my retina iMac by scaling up the resolution to the next
higher setting above the default (on the iMac, the Displays preference pane
calls it "2880x1620", but of course with the far higher retina pixel
density) and using MinionPro as the screen font:
http://cmenzel.org/LyX-screenshot.pdf. To my eyes, the scaled up setting
has no effect on the quality of the display in other programs (though you
might want to use larger fonts than you would with the default setting).
Others screen fonts that (unlike MinionPro
)
are part of the MacTeX 2014 distribution, e.g., Palatino, seem to me to
look almost as good.

-chris

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Stephan Witt  wrote:

> Am 13.01.2015 um 17:30 schrieb Richard Heck :
>
> > On 01/13/2015 09:11 AM, Philippe Lemoine wrote:
> >> I was also wondering if there was any hope of seeing a version of LyX
> that
> >> supports Retina display anytime soon. There seems to be a patch out
> there,
> >> but I was under the impression that it was more like a hack and that
> there
> >> might be compatibility issues with future official versions of LyX.
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, we have hi-DPI support now in the master
> development branch, but you have to use Qt 5.x to get it, and there are
> still some bugs being ironed out. But I expect 2.2.0 to include this
> feature, and we are working toward that now.
>
> Yes, support for retina display on Mac and hi-DPI in general is on the way
> and will be possible in LyX 2.2.0.
> There are some issues and it's not sure when it will be finished though.
>
> But LyX 2.1.x on retina display is usable also.
>
> To make a comparison of both versions possible I've made a side-by-side
> screen shot.
> You can find it here:
>
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27842660/Bildschirmfoto%202015-01-13%20um%2022.11.55.png
>
> Stephan

Re: LyX on Retina display