Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-15 Thread Nusret BALCI
Thank you Paul, people in the mailing list (including
you, of course) are really helpful. I appreciate it. I
also know and acknowledge that this is a big plus.
Regards,
Nusret

--- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/14/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis:
 It's
  reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak
 the
  Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
  extremely careful doing that, because it tried to
 eat
  my document a couple of times when I was trying to
  write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I
 had
  multiple backups :). It sometimes does not
 cooperate
  well with other editors, and I guess that's the
 reason
  for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's
 not
  very reliable for sharing documents (at least I
 feel
  so).
  This is true even when you save the file as
 portable
  LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's
 in
  fact a good piece of software, but if someone
 requests
  hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
  ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like
 mine
  :)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years
 ago,
  so probably newer versions may be more robust.
 
  I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set
 up
  emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some
 reason
  emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine:
 I'm
  not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I
 couldn't
  get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
  solution, I've seen an article on the web which
  mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim
 vs.
  Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user
 like
  me:)
 
  LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
  fairly impressed.
 
 Nusret,
 
 I was an user of Scientific WorkPlace, and I was
 extremely hesitant
 before migrating to LyX. Now, using LyX, I can tell
 you that I feel as
 having done the best choice. In short, LyX is an
 intelligent program
 made by intelligent people. Welcome to LyX and to
 this very helpful
 mailing list!
 
 Paul
 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-15 Thread Nusret BALCI
Thank you Paul, people in the mailing list (including
you, of course) are really helpful. I appreciate it. I
also know and acknowledge that this is a big plus.
Regards,
Nusret

--- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/14/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis:
 It's
  reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak
 the
  Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
  extremely careful doing that, because it tried to
 eat
  my document a couple of times when I was trying to
  write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I
 had
  multiple backups :). It sometimes does not
 cooperate
  well with other editors, and I guess that's the
 reason
  for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's
 not
  very reliable for sharing documents (at least I
 feel
  so).
  This is true even when you save the file as
 portable
  LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's
 in
  fact a good piece of software, but if someone
 requests
  hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
  ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like
 mine
  :)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years
 ago,
  so probably newer versions may be more robust.
 
  I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set
 up
  emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some
 reason
  emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine:
 I'm
  not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I
 couldn't
  get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
  solution, I've seen an article on the web which
  mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim
 vs.
  Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user
 like
  me:)
 
  LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
  fairly impressed.
 
 Nusret,
 
 I was an user of Scientific WorkPlace, and I was
 extremely hesitant
 before migrating to LyX. Now, using LyX, I can tell
 you that I feel as
 having done the best choice. In short, LyX is an
 intelligent program
 made by intelligent people. Welcome to LyX and to
 this very helpful
 mailing list!
 
 Paul
 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-15 Thread Nusret BALCI
Thank you Paul, people in the mailing list (including
you, of course) are really helpful. I appreciate it. I
also know and acknowledge that this is a big plus.
Regards,
Nusret

--- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 11/14/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis:
> It's
> > reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak
> the
> > Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
> > extremely careful doing that, because it tried to
> eat
> > my document a couple of times when I was trying to
> > write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I
> had
> > multiple backups :). It sometimes does not
> cooperate
> > well with other editors, and I guess that's the
> reason
> > for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's
> not
> > very reliable for sharing documents (at least I
> feel
> > so).
> > This is true even when you save the file as
> portable
> > LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's
> in
> > fact a good piece of software, but if someone
> requests
> > hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
> > ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like
> mine
> > :)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years
> ago,
> > so probably newer versions may be more robust.
> >
> > I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set
> up
> > emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some
> reason
> > emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine:
> I'm
> > not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I
> couldn't
> > get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
> > solution, I've seen an article on the web which
> > mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim
> vs.
> > Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user
> like
> > me:)
> >
> > LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
> > fairly impressed.
> 
> Nusret,
> 
> I was an user of Scientific WorkPlace, and I was
> extremely hesitant
> before migrating to LyX. Now, using LyX, I can tell
> you that I feel as
> having done the best choice. In short, LyX is an
> intelligent program
> made by intelligent people. Welcome to LyX and to
> this very helpful
> mailing list!
> 
> Paul
> 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Nusret BALCI wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to instruct LyX to treat C-i as a
request for italic font in text mode and for integral
sign in math mode? It does one or the other always
regardless of the mode here :) (I'm new, a 2-days long
LyX user, on Windows XP).
Regards,

Nusret


No, key bindings are global, not mode-specific.  However, you can 
certainly bind something else to the integral sign, perhaps S-C-i or C-m 
i or C-M-i?  (Or you can just type \int in math mode for the integral sign.)


Paul



Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Nusret BALCI

Oops, I replied to the message, but I'm afraid it went
to Paul's inbox directly. Sorry, I'll be more careful
in the future.
Regards,

Nusret

--- Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 Is there a way to instruct LyX to treat C-i as a
 request for italic font in text mode and for
 integral
 sign in math mode? It does one or the other always
 regardless of the mode here :) (I'm new, a 2-days
 long
 LyX user, on Windows XP).
 Regards,
 
 Nusret
 
 
   
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 http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Nusret BALCI

I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis: It's
reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak the
Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
extremely careful doing that, because it tried to eat
my document a couple of times when I was trying to
write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I had
multiple backups :). It sometimes does not cooperate
well with other editors, and I guess that's the reason
for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's not
very reliable for sharing documents (at least I feel
so).
This is true even when you save the file as portable
LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's in
fact a good piece of software, but if someone requests
hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like mine
:)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years ago,
so probably newer versions may be more robust.

I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set up
emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some reason
emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine: I'm
not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I couldn't
get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
solution, I've seen an article on the web which
mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim vs.
Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user like
me:) 

LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
fairly impressed.

Nusret

--- Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nusret BALCI wrote:
 
 Alright, not a big deal. I was struggling with
 LaTeX
 front ends: Winedt seems to be best among them, but
 even that is not much more than a text editor, say
 Scintilla.
 
 Right, AFAIK Winedt does nothing to insulate you
 from LaTeX.
 
  LyX may be a real savior if it is as good
 as my first impression--we'll see :)
 
 It is.
 
  (Literally: it
 may save me a couple of hundreds of bucks: I was
 about
 to buy Scientific Workplace :). 
   
 
 I was on the cusp of that myself before I came
 across LyX.  There are a 
 couple of other open-source projects out there doing
 front-ends to 
 LaTeX, including at least one or two that try to
 render the document on 
 the fly (WYSIWYG).  I tried one, and it's pretty
 slow.  LyX does not 
 completely eliminate a need for LaTeX, but it
 handles 80-90% of the job, 
 and you can stick in raw LaTeX where needed.  I
 think you're going to 
 like it, and the price is certainly attractive.
 
 I did a co-authored paper with a Scientific
 Workplace user.  Turns out 
 SW lards up the LaTeX file with custom (SW-specific)
 styles and/or 
 commands.  Not a problem if two SW users are
 swapping a document back 
 and forth, but I imagine that trying to send the
 exported LaTeX file to 
 a publisher might be an adventure.
 
 Thank you for help, paul: i appreciate it.
   
 
 You're welcome.
 
 Paul
 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Smith
On 11/14/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis: It's
 reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak the
 Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
 extremely careful doing that, because it tried to eat
 my document a couple of times when I was trying to
 write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I had
 multiple backups :). It sometimes does not cooperate
 well with other editors, and I guess that's the reason
 for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's not
 very reliable for sharing documents (at least I feel
 so).
 This is true even when you save the file as portable
 LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's in
 fact a good piece of software, but if someone requests
 hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
 ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like mine
 :)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years ago,
 so probably newer versions may be more robust.

 I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set up
 emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some reason
 emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine: I'm
 not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I couldn't
 get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
 solution, I've seen an article on the web which
 mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim vs.
 Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user like
 me:)

 LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
 fairly impressed.

Nusret,

I was an user of Scientific WorkPlace, and I was extremely hesitant
before migrating to LyX. Now, using LyX, I can tell you that I feel as
having done the best choice. In short, LyX is an intelligent program
made by intelligent people. Welcome to LyX and to this very helpful
mailing list!

Paul


Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Nusret BALCI wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to instruct LyX to treat C-i as a
request for italic font in text mode and for integral
sign in math mode? It does one or the other always
regardless of the mode here :) (I'm new, a 2-days long
LyX user, on Windows XP).
Regards,

Nusret


No, key bindings are global, not mode-specific.  However, you can 
certainly bind something else to the integral sign, perhaps S-C-i or C-m 
i or C-M-i?  (Or you can just type \int in math mode for the integral sign.)


Paul



Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Nusret BALCI

Oops, I replied to the message, but I'm afraid it went
to Paul's inbox directly. Sorry, I'll be more careful
in the future.
Regards,

Nusret

--- Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 Is there a way to instruct LyX to treat C-i as a
 request for italic font in text mode and for
 integral
 sign in math mode? It does one or the other always
 regardless of the mode here :) (I'm new, a 2-days
 long
 LyX user, on Windows XP).
 Regards,
 
 Nusret
 
 
   
 __ 
 Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page!
 
 http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Nusret BALCI

I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis: It's
reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak the
Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
extremely careful doing that, because it tried to eat
my document a couple of times when I was trying to
write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I had
multiple backups :). It sometimes does not cooperate
well with other editors, and I guess that's the reason
for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's not
very reliable for sharing documents (at least I feel
so).
This is true even when you save the file as portable
LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's in
fact a good piece of software, but if someone requests
hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like mine
:)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years ago,
so probably newer versions may be more robust.

I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set up
emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some reason
emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine: I'm
not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I couldn't
get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
solution, I've seen an article on the web which
mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim vs.
Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user like
me:) 

LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
fairly impressed.

Nusret

--- Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nusret BALCI wrote:
 
 Alright, not a big deal. I was struggling with
 LaTeX
 front ends: Winedt seems to be best among them, but
 even that is not much more than a text editor, say
 Scintilla.
 
 Right, AFAIK Winedt does nothing to insulate you
 from LaTeX.
 
  LyX may be a real savior if it is as good
 as my first impression--we'll see :)
 
 It is.
 
  (Literally: it
 may save me a couple of hundreds of bucks: I was
 about
 to buy Scientific Workplace :). 
   
 
 I was on the cusp of that myself before I came
 across LyX.  There are a 
 couple of other open-source projects out there doing
 front-ends to 
 LaTeX, including at least one or two that try to
 render the document on 
 the fly (WYSIWYG).  I tried one, and it's pretty
 slow.  LyX does not 
 completely eliminate a need for LaTeX, but it
 handles 80-90% of the job, 
 and you can stick in raw LaTeX where needed.  I
 think you're going to 
 like it, and the price is certainly attractive.
 
 I did a co-authored paper with a Scientific
 Workplace user.  Turns out 
 SW lards up the LaTeX file with custom (SW-specific)
 styles and/or 
 commands.  Not a problem if two SW users are
 swapping a document back 
 and forth, but I imagine that trying to send the
 exported LaTeX file to 
 a publisher might be an adventure.
 
 Thank you for help, paul: i appreciate it.
   
 
 You're welcome.
 
 Paul
 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Smith
On 11/14/05, Nusret BALCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis: It's
 reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak the
 Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
 extremely careful doing that, because it tried to eat
 my document a couple of times when I was trying to
 write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I had
 multiple backups :). It sometimes does not cooperate
 well with other editors, and I guess that's the reason
 for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's not
 very reliable for sharing documents (at least I feel
 so).
 This is true even when you save the file as portable
 LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's in
 fact a good piece of software, but if someone requests
 hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
 ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like mine
 :)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years ago,
 so probably newer versions may be more robust.

 I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set up
 emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some reason
 emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine: I'm
 not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I couldn't
 get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
 solution, I've seen an article on the web which
 mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim vs.
 Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user like
 me:)

 LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
 fairly impressed.

Nusret,

I was an user of Scientific WorkPlace, and I was extremely hesitant
before migrating to LyX. Now, using LyX, I can tell you that I feel as
having done the best choice. In short, LyX is an intelligent program
made by intelligent people. Welcome to LyX and to this very helpful
mailing list!

Paul


Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Nusret BALCI wrote:

Hi,
Is there a way to instruct LyX to treat "C-i" as a
request for italic font in text mode and for integral
sign in math mode? It does one or the other always
regardless of the mode here :) (I'm new, a 2-days long
LyX user, on Windows XP).
Regards,

Nusret


No, key bindings are "global", not mode-specific.  However, you can 
certainly bind something else to the integral sign, perhaps S-C-i or C-m 
i or C-M-i?  (Or you can just type \int in math mode for the integral sign.)


Paul



Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Nusret BALCI

Oops, I replied to the message, but I'm afraid it went
to Paul's inbox directly. Sorry, I'll be more careful
in the future.
Regards,

Nusret

--- Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> Is there a way to instruct LyX to treat "C-i" as a
> request for italic font in text mode and for
> integral
> sign in math mode? It does one or the other always
> regardless of the mode here :) (I'm new, a 2-days
> long
> LyX user, on Windows XP).
> Regards,
> 
> Nusret
> 
> 
>   
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> 
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Nusret BALCI

I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis: It's
reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak the
Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
extremely careful doing that, because it tried to eat
my document a couple of times when I was trying to
write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I had
multiple backups :). It sometimes does not cooperate
well with other editors, and I guess that's the reason
for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's not
very reliable for sharing documents (at least I feel
so).
This is true even when you save the file as portable
LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's in
fact a good piece of software, but if someone requests
hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like mine
:)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years ago,
so probably newer versions may be more robust.

I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set up
emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some reason
emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine: I'm
not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I couldn't
get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
solution, I've seen an article on the web which
mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim vs.
Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user like
me:) 

LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
fairly impressed.

Nusret

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nusret BALCI wrote:
> 
> >Alright, not a big deal. I was struggling with
> LaTeX
> >front ends: Winedt seems to be best among them, but
> >even that is not much more than a text editor, say
> >Scintilla.
> >
> Right, AFAIK Winedt does nothing to insulate you
> from LaTeX.
> 
> > LyX may be a real savior if it is as good
> >as my first impression--we'll see :)
> >
> It is.
> 
> > (Literally: it
> >may save me a couple of hundreds of bucks: I was
> about
> >to buy Scientific Workplace :). 
> >  
> >
> I was on the cusp of that myself before I came
> across LyX.  There are a 
> couple of other open-source projects out there doing
> front-ends to 
> LaTeX, including at least one or two that try to
> render the document on 
> the fly (WYSIWYG).  I tried one, and it's pretty
> slow.  LyX does not 
> completely eliminate a need for LaTeX, but it
> handles 80-90% of the job, 
> and you can stick in raw LaTeX where needed.  I
> think you're going to 
> like it, and the price is certainly attractive.
> 
> I did a co-authored paper with a Scientific
> Workplace user.  Turns out 
> SW lards up the LaTeX file with custom (SW-specific)
> styles and/or 
> commands.  Not a problem if two SW users are
> swapping a document back 
> and forth, but I imagine that trying to send the
> exported LaTeX file to 
> a publisher might be an adventure.
> 
> >Thank you for help, paul: i appreciate it.
> >  
> >
> You're welcome.
> 
> Paul
> 




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Re: about custom key bindings

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Smith
On 11/14/05, Nusret BALCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know Scientific workplace from my MS thesis: It's
> reasonably well, but sometimes you need to tweak the
> Latex code anyway. For some reason you should be
> extremely careful doing that, because it tried to eat
> my document a couple of times when I was trying to
> write the abstract and bibliography. Thanks God I had
> multiple backups :). It sometimes does not cooperate
> well with other editors, and I guess that's the reason
> for incompatibility. You're right in that, it's not
> very reliable for sharing documents (at least I feel
> so).
> This is true even when you save the file as portable
> LaTeX and avoid all those TCI macros. Anyway, it's in
> fact a good piece of software, but if someone requests
> hundreds of dollars for something, they should be
> ready for all kinds of moaning and whining (like mine
> :)). And to be fair I used it a couple of years ago,
> so probably newer versions may be more robust.
>
> I don't know if you mean that, but I tried to set up
> emacs and auctex with preview mode but for some reason
> emacs keeps freezing and crushing on my machine: I'm
> not a big fan of it anyways:). Therefore I couldn't
> get to the preview mode at all:). Searching for a
> solution, I've seen an article on the web which
> mentioned LyX in just one line (it was about Vim vs.
> Emacs; namely something alien for a Windows user like
> me:)
>
> LyX fares well as the time being though, and I'm
> fairly impressed.

Nusret,

I was an user of Scientific WorkPlace, and I was extremely hesitant
before migrating to LyX. Now, using LyX, I can tell you that I feel as
having done the best choice. In short, LyX is an intelligent program
made by intelligent people. Welcome to LyX and to this very helpful
mailing list!

Paul