Re: Beamer frames in the 2.1b2

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Hello,

 I was teaching today a course on (a little bit of LaTeX), (a lot of) LyX,
 beamer etc. to our doctoral students, and I have somewhat lost them when I
 showed they how I create a new frame in the new system. Am I doing something
 too cumbersome, or this is the only way to do?

 To introduce a new Frame (imagine the first one, for example)

 - I type returns until I get on the left border of the page (so out of any
 other environment),

 - than I choose the Frame layout from the layouts combo.

 -Lyx creates the Frame inset, and sometimes a box for the frame title (not
 always),

 - then I get out of the title box, if any, using the right arrow, type
 return to go to a new line,

 - insert a Separator layout

 -come back with the left arrow,

 -type return to go into the frame

 - type TAB to get into the environment

 - then LyX creates another Frame environment here (bizarre, no?)

 - I change the layout in something more useful (standard for a figure or
 BeamerIncrementalItemize, etc.)

 - then at last I can fill my frame!

 That seems too many operations also to me (I do not feel them, because I
 have KeyboardMaestro shortcuts for doing them), but I have seen that the
 students became discouraged by this.

 Questions :

 1/ is there a quicker way?

I stumbled onto the same issue when playing around with 2.1 beamer. I
may be wrong, but I don't think there's a quicker way. And for what
it's worth, I also found the whole process rather confusing and
somewhat cumbersome. (Just to be sure check the official docs Help 
Specific  Beamer, or wait for Juergen's input.) Personally I think
that the 2.1 overhaul of Beamer support is absolutely awesome and very
useful, and rids us of many limitations and compatibility issues that
plagued Beamer in LyX =2.0.x. But it is still rough around the edges,
at least user-experience-wise.

I was wondering, though, if maybe we should consider using custom
insets instead of styles (at least for the frames, as is done in the
'seminar' layout; check Examples  seminar.lyx and
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5515 ). This should remove the
frustrating experience of inserting a frame (that you describe above).
And it should make a Beamer document much easier to read, much more
intuitive for casual LyX users. Of course we would need to close
several related bugs, like http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7877 and
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6825 , but nothing insurmountable as
far as I can see.


Regards,
Liviu


 2/ If not, would not the environment we get after the TAB be something more
 useful, like Standard, instead of another Frame?

 I am teaching bibTeX, zotero and knitR tomorrow morning, so if you have a
 better way, I would be happy to tell it to them.

 Best regards,

 Murat


 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Note: Please use the following address as such

 UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 MURAT YILDIZOGLU
 16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
 CS 50057
 33608 PESSAC CEDEX
 FRANCE

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: Beamer frames in the 2.1b2

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Hello,

 I was teaching today a course on (a little bit of LaTeX), (a lot of) LyX,
 beamer etc. to our doctoral students, and I have somewhat lost them when I
 showed they how I create a new frame in the new system. Am I doing something
 too cumbersome, or this is the only way to do?

 To introduce a new Frame (imagine the first one, for example)

 - I type returns until I get on the left border of the page (so out of any
 other environment),

 - than I choose the Frame layout from the layouts combo.

 -Lyx creates the Frame inset, and sometimes a box for the frame title (not
 always),

 - then I get out of the title box, if any, using the right arrow, type
 return to go to a new line,

 - insert a Separator layout

 -come back with the left arrow,

 -type return to go into the frame

 - type TAB to get into the environment

 - then LyX creates another Frame environment here (bizarre, no?)

 - I change the layout in something more useful (standard for a figure or
 BeamerIncrementalItemize, etc.)

 - then at last I can fill my frame!

 That seems too many operations also to me (I do not feel them, because I
 have KeyboardMaestro shortcuts for doing them), but I have seen that the
 students became discouraged by this.

 Questions :

 1/ is there a quicker way?

I stumbled onto the same issue when playing around with 2.1 beamer. I
may be wrong, but I don't think there's a quicker way. And for what
it's worth, I also found the whole process rather confusing and
somewhat cumbersome. (Just to be sure check the official docs Help 
Specific  Beamer, or wait for Juergen's input.) Personally I think
that the 2.1 overhaul of Beamer support is absolutely awesome and very
useful, and rids us of many limitations and compatibility issues that
plagued Beamer in LyX =2.0.x. But it is still rough around the edges,
at least user-experience-wise.

I was wondering, though, if maybe we should consider using custom
insets instead of styles (at least for the frames, as is done in the
'seminar' layout; check Examples  seminar.lyx and
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5515 ). This should remove the
frustrating experience of inserting a frame (that you describe above).
And it should make a Beamer document much easier to read, much more
intuitive for casual LyX users. Of course we would need to close
several related bugs, like http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7877 and
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6825 , but nothing insurmountable as
far as I can see.


Regards,
Liviu


 2/ If not, would not the environment we get after the TAB be something more
 useful, like Standard, instead of another Frame?

 I am teaching bibTeX, zotero and knitR tomorrow morning, so if you have a
 better way, I would be happy to tell it to them.

 Best regards,

 Murat


 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Note: Please use the following address as such

 UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 MURAT YILDIZOGLU
 16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
 CS 50057
 33608 PESSAC CEDEX
 FRANCE

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: Beamer frames in the 2.1b2

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Murat Yildizoglu
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was teaching today a course on (a little bit of LaTeX), (a lot of) LyX,
> beamer etc. to our doctoral students, and I have somewhat lost them when I
> showed they how I create a new frame in the new system. Am I doing something
> too cumbersome, or this is the only way to do?
>
> To introduce a new Frame (imagine the first one, for example)
>
> - I type returns until I get on the left border of the page (so out of any
> other environment),
>
> - than I choose the Frame layout from the layouts combo.
>
> -Lyx creates the Frame inset, and sometimes a box for the frame title (not
> always),
>
> - then I get out of the title box, if any, using the right arrow, type
> return to go to a new line,
>
> - insert a Separator layout
>
> -come back with the left arrow,
>
> -type return to go into the frame
>
> - type TAB to get into the environment
>
> - then LyX creates another Frame environment here (bizarre, no?)
>
> - I change the layout in something more useful (standard for a figure or
> BeamerIncrementalItemize, etc.)
>
> - then at last I can fill my frame!
>
> That seems too many operations also to me (I do not feel them, because I
> have KeyboardMaestro shortcuts for doing them), but I have seen that the
> students became discouraged by this.
>
> Questions :
>
> 1/ is there a quicker way?
>
I stumbled onto the same issue when playing around with 2.1 beamer. I
may be wrong, but I don't think there's a quicker way. And for what
it's worth, I also found the whole process rather confusing and
somewhat cumbersome. (Just to be sure check the official docs Help >
Specific > Beamer, or wait for Juergen's input.) Personally I think
that the 2.1 overhaul of Beamer support is absolutely awesome and very
useful, and rids us of many limitations and compatibility issues that
plagued Beamer in LyX <=2.0.x. But it is still rough around the edges,
at least user-experience-wise.

I was wondering, though, if maybe we should consider using custom
insets instead of styles (at least for the frames, as is done in the
'seminar' layout; check Examples > seminar.lyx and
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5515 ). This should remove the
frustrating experience of inserting a frame (that you describe above).
And it should make a Beamer document much easier to read, much more
intuitive for casual LyX users. Of course we would need to close
several related bugs, like http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7877 and
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6825 , but nothing insurmountable as
far as I can see.


Regards,
Liviu


> 2/ If not, would not the environment we get after the TAB be something more
> useful, like Standard, instead of another Frame?
>
> I am teaching bibTeX, zotero and knitR tomorrow morning, so if you have a
> better way, I would be happy to tell it to them.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Murat
>
>
> --
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>
> Note: Please use the following address as such
>
> UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> MURAT YILDIZOGLU
> 16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
> CS 50057
> 33608 PESSAC CEDEX
> FRANCE
>
> Bureau : E-331
>
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>
> web: yildizoglu.info



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: beamer Slides without counting pagenumbers in branches

[Paul A . Rubin]

If you add \addtocounter{framenumber}{-1} in a TeX inset (formerly known as
ERT) in the body of each instructor-only slide, the student slides will be
numbered as you wish. This will not prevent the instructor slides from
displaying slide numbers; it will just prevent those numbers for advancing.
So, for instance, if you use a theme that displays current slide number and
total number of slides in the footer, you will obtain something like the
following:

Student slide (1 of 4)
Student slide (2 of 4)
Instructor slide (2 of 4)
Student slide (3 of 4)
Instructor slide (3 of 4)
Instructor slide (3 of 4)
Student slide (4 of 4)

To suppress the footer (and hence the page numbering) in the instructor
slides, make them PlainFrame rather than Frame AND put in the LaTeX command
to tweak the frame number.

Paul

Re: beamer Slides without counting pagenumbers in branches

[Paul A . Rubin]

If you add \addtocounter{framenumber}{-1} in a TeX inset (formerly known as
ERT) in the body of each instructor-only slide, the student slides will be
numbered as you wish. This will not prevent the instructor slides from
displaying slide numbers; it will just prevent those numbers for advancing.
So, for instance, if you use a theme that displays current slide number and
total number of slides in the footer, you will obtain something like the
following:

Student slide (1 of 4)
Student slide (2 of 4)
Instructor slide (2 of 4)
Student slide (3 of 4)
Instructor slide (3 of 4)
Instructor slide (3 of 4)
Student slide (4 of 4)

To suppress the footer (and hence the page numbering) in the instructor
slides, make them PlainFrame rather than Frame AND put in the LaTeX command
to tweak the frame number.

Paul

Re: beamer Slides without counting pagenumbers in branches

[Paul A . Rubin]

If you add \addtocounter{framenumber}{-1} in a TeX inset (formerly known as
ERT) in the body of each instructor-only slide, the student slides will be
numbered as you wish. This will not prevent the instructor slides from
displaying slide numbers; it will just prevent those numbers for advancing.
So, for instance, if you use a theme that displays current slide number and
total number of slides in the footer, you will obtain something like the
following:

Student slide (1 of 4)
Student slide (2 of 4)
Instructor slide (2 of 4)
Student slide (3 of 4)
Instructor slide (3 of 4)
Instructor slide (3 of 4)
Student slide (4 of 4)

To suppress the footer (and hence the page numbering) in the instructor
slides, make them PlainFrame rather than Frame AND put in the LaTeX command
to tweak the frame number.

Paul

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2013/11/18 Liviu Andronic

 It may be worth including these notes on Parts in the Beamer Manual in 2.1.


Done.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2013/11/18 Liviu Andronic

 It may be worth including these notes on Parts in the Beamer Manual in 2.1.


Done.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2013/11/18 Liviu Andronic

> It may be worth including these notes on Parts in the Beamer Manual in 2.1.
>

Done.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag 18 November 2013, 15:57:46 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
 I noticed this strange behaviour: If I include Parts in the Beamer
 presentation (attached), then the TOC fails (is blank). Is this an
 issue with LyX, or normal Beamer behaviour?

Normal Beamer behavior. Beamer considers parts to be a little 'talk of its 
own' with its own table of contents, its own navigation bars, and so on. 
Inside one part, the sections and subsections of the other parts are not shown 
at all. (Beamer manual, 10.3).

Hence, \tableofcontents only outputs the sections and subsections of the 
current part. Since you put it in part 0 (before the first actual part), 
where no section exists, the TOC is empty.

 The other related issue is that when I go to Doc Settings  Numbering,
 I don't see Part included in that list. Is there a good reason for
 this? (I find it confusing, as I'd expect it to be there.)

Does not make sense due o the behavior sketched above, IMHO.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 Am Montag 18 November 2013, 15:57:46 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
 I noticed this strange behaviour: If I include Parts in the Beamer
 presentation (attached), then the TOC fails (is blank). Is this an
 issue with LyX, or normal Beamer behaviour?

 Normal Beamer behavior. Beamer considers parts to be a little 'talk of its
 own' with its own table of contents, its own navigation bars, and so on.
 Inside one part, the sections and subsections of the other parts are not shown
 at all. (Beamer manual, 10.3).

 Hence, \tableofcontents only outputs the sections and subsections of the
 current part. Since you put it in part 0 (before the first actual part),
 where no section exists, the TOC is empty.

 The other related issue is that when I go to Doc Settings  Numbering,
 I don't see Part included in that list. Is there a good reason for
 this? (I find it confusing, as I'd expect it to be there.)

 Does not make sense due o the behavior sketched above, IMHO.

Thanks Juergen for these explanations! Now it makes more sense,
although initially it seemed very confusing. It may be worth including
these notes on Parts in the Beamer Manual in 2.1. Currently they're
only briefly mentioned, and I discovered Parts only by accident: I had
an unwieldy large presentation that I had to separate into two
different files. With Parts, however, I don't need to do this and I
can keep everything compact with one single file.

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag 18 November 2013, 15:57:46 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
 I noticed this strange behaviour: If I include Parts in the Beamer
 presentation (attached), then the TOC fails (is blank). Is this an
 issue with LyX, or normal Beamer behaviour?

Normal Beamer behavior. Beamer considers parts to be a little 'talk of its 
own' with its own table of contents, its own navigation bars, and so on. 
Inside one part, the sections and subsections of the other parts are not shown 
at all. (Beamer manual, 10.3).

Hence, \tableofcontents only outputs the sections and subsections of the 
current part. Since you put it in part 0 (before the first actual part), 
where no section exists, the TOC is empty.

 The other related issue is that when I go to Doc Settings  Numbering,
 I don't see Part included in that list. Is there a good reason for
 this? (I find it confusing, as I'd expect it to be there.)

Does not make sense due o the behavior sketched above, IMHO.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 Am Montag 18 November 2013, 15:57:46 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
 I noticed this strange behaviour: If I include Parts in the Beamer
 presentation (attached), then the TOC fails (is blank). Is this an
 issue with LyX, or normal Beamer behaviour?

 Normal Beamer behavior. Beamer considers parts to be a little 'talk of its
 own' with its own table of contents, its own navigation bars, and so on.
 Inside one part, the sections and subsections of the other parts are not shown
 at all. (Beamer manual, 10.3).

 Hence, \tableofcontents only outputs the sections and subsections of the
 current part. Since you put it in part 0 (before the first actual part),
 where no section exists, the TOC is empty.

 The other related issue is that when I go to Doc Settings  Numbering,
 I don't see Part included in that list. Is there a good reason for
 this? (I find it confusing, as I'd expect it to be there.)

 Does not make sense due o the behavior sketched above, IMHO.

Thanks Juergen for these explanations! Now it makes more sense,
although initially it seemed very confusing. It may be worth including
these notes on Parts in the Beamer Manual in 2.1. Currently they're
only briefly mentioned, and I discovered Parts only by accident: I had
an unwieldy large presentation that I had to separate into two
different files. With Parts, however, I don't need to do this and I
can keep everything compact with one single file.

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag 18 November 2013, 15:57:46 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> I noticed this strange behaviour: If I include Parts in the Beamer
> presentation (attached), then the TOC fails (is blank). Is this an
> issue with LyX, or normal Beamer behaviour?

Normal Beamer behavior. Beamer considers parts to be "a little 'talk of its 
own' with its own table of contents, its own navigation bars, and so on. 
Inside one part, the sections and subsections of the other parts are not shown 
at all." (Beamer manual, 10.3).

Hence, \tableofcontents only outputs the sections and subsections of the 
current part. Since you put it in part "0" (before the first actual part), 
where no section exists, the TOC is empty.

> The other related issue is that when I go to Doc Settings > Numbering,
> I don't see Part included in that list. Is there a good reason for
> this? (I find it confusing, as I'd expect it to be there.)

Does not make sense due o the behavior sketched above, IMHO.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer TOC issue with 'part' environments

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> Am Montag 18 November 2013, 15:57:46 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
>> I noticed this strange behaviour: If I include Parts in the Beamer
>> presentation (attached), then the TOC fails (is blank). Is this an
>> issue with LyX, or normal Beamer behaviour?
>
> Normal Beamer behavior. Beamer considers parts to be "a little 'talk of its
> own' with its own table of contents, its own navigation bars, and so on.
> Inside one part, the sections and subsections of the other parts are not shown
> at all." (Beamer manual, 10.3).
>
> Hence, \tableofcontents only outputs the sections and subsections of the
> current part. Since you put it in part "0" (before the first actual part),
> where no section exists, the TOC is empty.
>
>> The other related issue is that when I go to Doc Settings > Numbering,
>> I don't see Part included in that list. Is there a good reason for
>> this? (I find it confusing, as I'd expect it to be there.)
>
> Does not make sense due o the behavior sketched above, IMHO.
>
Thanks Juergen for these explanations! Now it makes more sense,
although initially it seemed very confusing. It may be worth including
these notes on Parts in the Beamer Manual in 2.1. Currently they're
only briefly mentioned, and I discovered Parts only by accident: I had
an unwieldy large presentation that I had to separate into two
different files. With Parts, however, I don't need to do this and I
can keep everything compact with one single file.

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear Juergen,


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 I've tested a fair amount of all sorts of slides now. Common things should
 just work.

 So again, the more people help testing, the better the result in the final
 release of LyX 2.1

Just to let you know that I've tested a couple of my 2.0 long-ish
beamer slides and the PDF output when compiled with 2.1 is bit for bit
identical with 2.0 PDF. At least here the conversions seem to happen
as expected.

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear Juergen,


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 I've tested a fair amount of all sorts of slides now. Common things should
 just work.

 So again, the more people help testing, the better the result in the final
 release of LyX 2.1

Just to let you know that I've tested a couple of my 2.0 long-ish
beamer slides and the PDF output when compiled with 2.1 is bit for bit
identical with 2.0 PDF. At least here the conversions seem to happen
as expected.

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear Juergen,


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> I've tested a fair amount of all sorts of slides now. Common things should
> just work.
>
> So again, the more people help testing, the better the result in the final
> release of LyX 2.1
>
Just to let you know that I've tested a couple of my 2.0 long-ish
beamer slides and the PDF output when compiled with 2.1 is bit for bit
identical with 2.0 PDF. At least here the conversions seem to happen
as expected.

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Beamer: structure

[Ansa211]

Jürgen Spitzmüller spitz at lyx.org writes:

 
 Patrick Dupre wrote:
   Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the
   color red!
  In fact 
  \usetheme{Madrid}%
  \usecolortheme{Red}
  
  Mess up the default colors!
 
 Did you try
 \usetheme{Madrid}
 \usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}
 
 Jürgen
 
 


Thanks for the suggestion. It gets rid of the warning, but the red color it
produces is much brighter than the red color I get by using
\documentclass[red]{beamer}. I think beamer actually uses BrickRed of the
dvips list (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Colors#Predefined_colors) for
titles and backgrounds (although not for \alert{text}), but I don't know
how to force \usecolorheme{structure} to use these named colours. I tried
inserting \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{color} in the preamble, but then
I get an Option clash for package color  warning. The following is a
minimum example (comment the first line and uncomment the two commented
lines for comparison of the color of the titlebar):

\documentclass[red,hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false}]{beamer}
%\documentclass[hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false}]{beamer}  %% the option to
avoid the warning ``Option `pdfpagelabels’ is turned off(hyperref) because
\thepage is undefined.''
\usecolortheme{whale}
%\usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}

\usepackage{lmodern}  %% avoid warning ``Size substitutions with
differences(Font) up to 1.0pt have occurred.''

\begin{document}
\begin{frame}{title}
  normal

  \alert{alerted}
\end{frame}

\end{document}

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag 06 September 2013, 09:53:30 schrieb Ansa211:
 I don't know how to force \usecolorheme{structure} to use these named
 colours. I tried inserting \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{color} in the
 preamble, but then I get an Option clash for package color  warning.

Beamer loads xcolor internally, so you need to pass xcolor options to beamer:

\documentclass[hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false},dvipsnames]{beamer}
\usecolortheme{whale}
\usecolortheme[named=BrickRed]{structure}

\usepackage{lmodern}  

\begin{document}
\begin{frame}{title}
  normal

  \alert{alerted}
\end{frame}

\end{document}


HTH
Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Thanks Jürgen,
I will download the beta and check (I am under OSX, I hope that there is a
build for this OS).
I keep you informed.

Best regards,

Murat


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
 Hi,
 I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
 version. This is very good news. But I have also read some incompatibility
 problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved? 

Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware of, 
and we had to make pretty much changes.

However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not 
compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual 
tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and 
try if there are issues.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

OK, I have found the preoblem: I had to copy beamer incremental list module
from my older prefs folder/layouts, but I have copied beamer module (and
others) also by error, and that was messing with my installation of the
beta. I have deleted other modules, and the titles became correctly
interpreted again. I will read the new manual now. That really looks nice,
thanks a lot!


2013/9/6 Murat Yildizoglu myi...@gmail.com

 There must be a problem with my version: If I open the beamer manual that
 comes with the beta, I observe the same problem of unrecognized argument
 for frame titles.


 2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx
 beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents
 and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

There must be a problem with my version: If I open the beamer manual that
comes with the beta, I observe the same problem of unrecognized argument
for frame titles.


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I have now installed the beta, and started to open my beamers. It is going
quite smoothly for now.
A small problem I have observed happens with the title of the frames. They
are transformed to unrecognized argument boxes (I am translating from
French). I imagine that the process for giving titles to frames have
changed now.


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

David L. Johnson wrote:
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx 
  beta version. This is very good news. But I have also read some 
  incompatibility problems. This is very bad news. Have they been 
  solved? I am worried because I have several (more than a hundred, 
  probably) Beamer documents in Lyx that I have converted some time ago 
  from Latex to Lyx. That has taken considerable time, and I would 
  really really not want to have go through a heavy conversion process 
  again. Reasonable backward compatibility would be very much appreciated.
 
 Me, too.  I have all of my class presentations on beamer, created 
 through lyx in the (admittedly clunky) way we have now.  I would hate to 
 have to re-do all of that.

Well, me too, for that matter :-)

But as I said, you won't have to re-do everything. It might happen that some 
stuff is not converted properly to the new scheme, since there are so many 
complex things you can do (especially if ERT is involved). If that happens, 
some finger-painting might be necessary, but you won't be left with a mess.

I've tested a fair amount of all sorts of slides now. Common things should 
just work.

So again, the more people help testing, the better the result in the final 
release of LyX 2.1

Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/06/2013 10:57 AM, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Hi,
I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx 
beta version. This is very good news. But I have also read some 
incompatibility problems. This is very bad news. Have they been 
solved? I am worried because I have several (more than a hundred, 
probably) Beamer documents in Lyx that I have converted some time ago 
from Latex to Lyx. That has taken considerable time, and I would 
really really not want to have go through a heavy conversion process 
again. Reasonable backward compatibility would be very much appreciated.
Me, too.  I have all of my class presentations on beamer, created 
through lyx in the (admittedly clunky) way we have now.  I would hate to 
have to re-do all of that.


--

David L. Johnson

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on
no account be allowed to do the job.
-- Douglas Adams

Re: Beamer: structure

[Ansa211]

Jürgen Spitzmüller spitz at lyx.org writes:

 
 Patrick Dupre wrote:
   Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the
   color red!
  In fact 
  \usetheme{Madrid}%
  \usecolortheme{Red}
  
  Mess up the default colors!
 
 Did you try
 \usetheme{Madrid}
 \usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}
 
 Jürgen
 
 


Thanks for the suggestion. It gets rid of the warning, but the red color it
produces is much brighter than the red color I get by using
\documentclass[red]{beamer}. I think beamer actually uses BrickRed of the
dvips list (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Colors#Predefined_colors) for
titles and backgrounds (although not for \alert{text}), but I don't know
how to force \usecolorheme{structure} to use these named colours. I tried
inserting \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{color} in the preamble, but then
I get an Option clash for package color  warning. The following is a
minimum example (comment the first line and uncomment the two commented
lines for comparison of the color of the titlebar):

\documentclass[red,hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false}]{beamer}
%\documentclass[hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false}]{beamer}  %% the option to
avoid the warning ``Option `pdfpagelabels’ is turned off(hyperref) because
\thepage is undefined.''
\usecolortheme{whale}
%\usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}

\usepackage{lmodern}  %% avoid warning ``Size substitutions with
differences(Font) up to 1.0pt have occurred.''

\begin{document}
\begin{frame}{title}
  normal

  \alert{alerted}
\end{frame}

\end{document}

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag 06 September 2013, 09:53:30 schrieb Ansa211:
 I don't know how to force \usecolorheme{structure} to use these named
 colours. I tried inserting \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{color} in the
 preamble, but then I get an Option clash for package color  warning.

Beamer loads xcolor internally, so you need to pass xcolor options to beamer:

\documentclass[hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false},dvipsnames]{beamer}
\usecolortheme{whale}
\usecolortheme[named=BrickRed]{structure}

\usepackage{lmodern}  

\begin{document}
\begin{frame}{title}
  normal

  \alert{alerted}
\end{frame}

\end{document}


HTH
Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Thanks Jürgen,
I will download the beta and check (I am under OSX, I hope that there is a
build for this OS).
I keep you informed.

Best regards,

Murat


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
 Hi,
 I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
 version. This is very good news. But I have also read some incompatibility
 problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved? 

Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware of, 
and we had to make pretty much changes.

However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not 
compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual 
tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and 
try if there are issues.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

OK, I have found the preoblem: I had to copy beamer incremental list module
from my older prefs folder/layouts, but I have copied beamer module (and
others) also by error, and that was messing with my installation of the
beta. I have deleted other modules, and the titles became correctly
interpreted again. I will read the new manual now. That really looks nice,
thanks a lot!


2013/9/6 Murat Yildizoglu myi...@gmail.com

 There must be a problem with my version: If I open the beamer manual that
 comes with the beta, I observe the same problem of unrecognized argument
 for frame titles.


 2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx
 beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents
 and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

There must be a problem with my version: If I open the beamer manual that
comes with the beta, I observe the same problem of unrecognized argument
for frame titles.


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I have now installed the beta, and started to open my beamers. It is going
quite smoothly for now.
A small problem I have observed happens with the title of the frames. They
are transformed to unrecognized argument boxes (I am translating from
French). I imagine that the process for giving titles to frames have
changed now.


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org

 Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
  Hi,
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
  version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
 incompatibility
  problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?

 Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
 of,
 and we had to make pretty much changes.

 However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
 compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
 tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

 You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
 try if there are issues.

 Jürgen




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

David L. Johnson wrote:
  I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx 
  beta version. This is very good news. But I have also read some 
  incompatibility problems. This is very bad news. Have they been 
  solved? I am worried because I have several (more than a hundred, 
  probably) Beamer documents in Lyx that I have converted some time ago 
  from Latex to Lyx. That has taken considerable time, and I would 
  really really not want to have go through a heavy conversion process 
  again. Reasonable backward compatibility would be very much appreciated.
 
 Me, too.  I have all of my class presentations on beamer, created 
 through lyx in the (admittedly clunky) way we have now.  I would hate to 
 have to re-do all of that.

Well, me too, for that matter :-)

But as I said, you won't have to re-do everything. It might happen that some 
stuff is not converted properly to the new scheme, since there are so many 
complex things you can do (especially if ERT is involved). If that happens, 
some finger-painting might be necessary, but you won't be left with a mess.

I've tested a fair amount of all sorts of slides now. Common things should 
just work.

So again, the more people help testing, the better the result in the final 
release of LyX 2.1

Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/06/2013 10:57 AM, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Hi,
I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx 
beta version. This is very good news. But I have also read some 
incompatibility problems. This is very bad news. Have they been 
solved? I am worried because I have several (more than a hundred, 
probably) Beamer documents in Lyx that I have converted some time ago 
from Latex to Lyx. That has taken considerable time, and I would 
really really not want to have go through a heavy conversion process 
again. Reasonable backward compatibility would be very much appreciated.
Me, too.  I have all of my class presentations on beamer, created 
through lyx in the (admittedly clunky) way we have now.  I would hate to 
have to re-do all of that.


--

David L. Johnson

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on
no account be allowed to do the job.
-- Douglas Adams

Re: Beamer: structure

[Ansa211]

Jürgen Spitzmüller  lyx.org> writes:

> 
> Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the
> > > color red!
> > In fact 
> > \usetheme{Madrid}%
> > \usecolortheme{Red}
> > 
> > Mess up the default colors!
> 
> Did you try
> \usetheme{Madrid}
> \usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> 


Thanks for the suggestion. It gets rid of the warning, but the red color it
produces is much brighter than the red color I get by using
\documentclass[red]{beamer}. I think beamer actually uses "BrickRed" of the
dvips list (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Colors#Predefined_colors) for
titles and backgrounds (although not for "\alert{text}"), but I don't know
how to force \usecolorheme{structure} to use these named colours. I tried
inserting \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{color} in the preamble, but then
I get an "Option clash for package color"  warning. The following is a
minimum example (comment the first line and uncomment the two commented
lines for comparison of the color of the titlebar):

\documentclass[red,hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false}]{beamer}
%\documentclass[hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false}]{beamer}  %% the option to
avoid the warning ``Option `pdfpagelabels’ is turned off(hyperref) because
\thepage is undefined.''
\usecolortheme{whale}
%\usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}

\usepackage{lmodern}  %% avoid warning ``Size substitutions with
differences(Font) up to 1.0pt have occurred.''

\begin{document}
\begin{frame}{title}
  normal

  \alert{alerted}
\end{frame}

\end{document}

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag 06 September 2013, 09:53:30 schrieb Ansa211:
> I don't know how to force \usecolorheme{structure} to use these named
> colours. I tried inserting \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{color} in the
> preamble, but then I get an "Option clash for package color"  warning.

Beamer loads xcolor internally, so you need to pass xcolor options to beamer:

\documentclass[hyperref={pdfpagelabels=false},dvipsnames]{beamer}
\usecolortheme{whale}
\usecolortheme[named=BrickRed]{structure}

\usepackage{lmodern}  

\begin{document}
\begin{frame}{title}
  normal

  \alert{alerted}
\end{frame}

\end{document}


HTH
Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Thanks Jürgen,
I will download the beta and check (I am under OSX, I hope that there is a
build for this OS).
I keep you informed.

Best regards,

Murat


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller 

> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
> > version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
> incompatibility
> > problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?
>
> Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
> of,
> and we had to make pretty much changes.
>
> However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
> compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
> tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.
>
> You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
> try if there are issues.
>
> Jürgen
>
>


-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> Hi,
> I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
> version. This is very good news. But I have also read some incompatibility
> problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved? 

Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware of, 
and we had to make pretty much changes.

However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not 
compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual 
tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.

You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and 
try if there are issues.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

OK, I have found the preoblem: I had to copy beamer incremental list module
from my older prefs folder/layouts, but I have copied beamer module (and
others) also by error, and that was messing with my installation of the
beta. I have deleted other modules, and the titles became correctly
interpreted again. I will read the new manual now. That really looks nice,
thanks a lot!


2013/9/6 Murat Yildizoglu 

> There must be a problem with my version: If I open the beamer manual that
> comes with the beta, I observe the same problem of "unrecognized argument"
> for frame titles.
>
>
> 2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller 
>
>> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx
>> beta
>> > version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
>> incompatibility
>> > problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?
>>
>> Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
>> of,
>> and we had to make pretty much changes.
>>
>> However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
>> compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
>> tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.
>>
>> You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents
>> and
>> try if there are issues.
>>
>> Jürgen
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
>
> Bureau : E-331
>
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>
> web: yildizoglu.info
>



-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

There must be a problem with my version: If I open the beamer manual that
comes with the beta, I observe the same problem of "unrecognized argument"
for frame titles.


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller 

> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
> > version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
> incompatibility
> > problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?
>
> Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
> of,
> and we had to make pretty much changes.
>
> However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
> compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
> tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.
>
> You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
> try if there are issues.
>
> Jürgen
>
>


-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I have now installed the beta, and started to open my beamers. It is going
quite smoothly for now.
A small problem I have observed happens with the title of the frames. They
are transformed to unrecognized argument boxes (I am translating from
French). I imagine that the process for giving titles to frames have
changed now.


2013/9/6 Jürgen Spitzmüller 

> Murat Yildizoglu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx beta
> > version. This is very good news. But I have also read some
> incompatibility
> > problems. This is very bad news. Have they been solved?
>
> Some have, others probably haven't. We can only fix problems we are aware
> of,
> and we had to make pretty much changes.
>
> However, the potential problems are of the sort that documents might not
> compile out of the box after conversion to the 2.1 format, and some manual
> tweaking is necessary. Nothing of the sort that will eat your documents.
>
> You can help by testing: get LyX 2.1beta, make copies of your documents and
> try if there are issues.
>
> Jürgen
>
>


-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

David L. Johnson wrote:
> > I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx 
> > beta version. This is very good news. But I have also read some 
> > incompatibility problems. This is very bad news. Have they been 
> > solved? I am worried because I have several (more than a hundred, 
> > probably) Beamer documents in Lyx that I have converted some time ago 
> > from Latex to Lyx. That has taken considerable time, and I would 
> > really really not want to have go through a heavy conversion process 
> > again. Reasonable backward compatibility would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Me, too.  I have all of my class presentations on beamer, created 
> through lyx in the (admittedly clunky) way we have now.  I would hate to 
> have to re-do all of that.

Well, me too, for that matter :-)

But as I said, you won't have to re-do everything. It might happen that some 
stuff is not converted properly to the new scheme, since there are so many 
complex things you can do (especially if ERT is involved). If that happens, 
some finger-painting might be necessary, but you won't be left with a mess.

I've tested a fair amount of all sorts of slides now. Common things should 
just work.

So again, the more people help testing, the better the result in the final 
release of LyX 2.1

Jürgen

Re: Beamer in the next Lyx version: a worry?

[David L. Johnson]

On 09/06/2013 10:57 AM, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

Hi,
I remember having seen posts about the overhaul of Beamer in the Lyx 
beta version. This is very good news. But I have also read some 
incompatibility problems. This is very bad news. Have they been 
solved? I am worried because I have several (more than a hundred, 
probably) Beamer documents in Lyx that I have converted some time ago 
from Latex to Lyx. That has taken considerable time, and I would 
really really not want to have go through a heavy conversion process 
again. Reasonable backward compatibility would be very much appreciated.
Me, too.  I have all of my class presentations on beamer, created 
through lyx in the (admittedly clunky) way we have now.  I would hate to 
have to re-do all of that.


--

David L. Johnson

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on
no account be allowed to do the job.
-- Douglas Adams

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jannick wrote:
 thx for the info. Looking forward to seeing how this becomes easier in
 version 2.1 after Jürgen's work.

It becomes easier in the sense that there is not more BeginFrame and 
EndFrame (and consequently no more \lyxframeend), but a real frame environment 
(where you can nest content).

Jürgen

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jannick wrote:
 thx for the info. Looking forward to seeing how this becomes easier in
 version 2.1 after Jürgen's work.

It becomes easier in the sense that there is not more BeginFrame and 
EndFrame (and consequently no more \lyxframeend), but a real frame environment 
(where you can nest content).

Jürgen

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Jannick wrote:
> thx for the info. Looking forward to seeing how this becomes easier in
> version 2.1 after Jürgen's work.

It becomes "easier" in the sense that there is not more BeginFrame and 
EndFrame (and consequently no more \lyxframeend), but a real frame environment 
(where you can nest content).

Jürgen

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Jannick]

Scott,

thx for the info. Looking forward to seeing how this becomes easier in
version 2.1 after Jürgen's work.

Best
J.


2013/8/29 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jannick jannick.n...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  this is just a remark for potentially amending the documentation and
 beamer
  templates after I was searching what was happening to my lyx
 presentation:
 
  If frame end commands are omitted (which is no harm to the lyx beamer
  document so far), it is needed to have a close frame command at the end
 of
  the document (see here
 
 http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/07/22/lyxframeend-undefined-when-using-beamer-with-lyx
 ).

 Thank you for the suggestion Jannick. Fortunately, things should be
 more intuitive in 2.1 because the work by Juergen Spitzmueller.

 Best,

 Scott

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Jannick]

Scott,

thx for the info. Looking forward to seeing how this becomes easier in
version 2.1 after Jürgen's work.

Best
J.


2013/8/29 Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jannick jannick.n...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  this is just a remark for potentially amending the documentation and
 beamer
  templates after I was searching what was happening to my lyx
 presentation:
 
  If frame end commands are omitted (which is no harm to the lyx beamer
  document so far), it is needed to have a close frame command at the end
 of
  the document (see here
 
 http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/07/22/lyxframeend-undefined-when-using-beamer-with-lyx
 ).

 Thank you for the suggestion Jannick. Fortunately, things should be
 more intuitive in 2.1 because the work by Juergen Spitzmueller.

 Best,

 Scott

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Jannick]

Scott,

thx for the info. Looking forward to seeing how this becomes easier in
version 2.1 after Jürgen's work.

Best
J.


2013/8/29 Scott Kostyshak 

> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jannick  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is just a remark for potentially amending the documentation and
> beamer
> > templates after I was searching what was happening to my lyx
> presentation:
> >
> > If frame end commands are omitted (which is no harm to the lyx beamer
> > document so far), it is needed to have a close frame command at the end
> of
> > the document (see here
> >
> http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/07/22/lyxframeend-undefined-when-using-beamer-with-lyx
> ).
>
> Thank you for the suggestion Jannick. Fortunately, things should be
> more intuitive in 2.1 because the work by Juergen Spitzmueller.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jannick jannick.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 this is just a remark for potentially amending the documentation and beamer
 templates after I was searching what was happening to my lyx presentation:

 If frame end commands are omitted (which is no harm to the lyx beamer
 document so far), it is needed to have a close frame command at the end of
 the document (see here
 http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/07/22/lyxframeend-undefined-when-using-beamer-with-lyx).

Thank you for the suggestion Jannick. Fortunately, things should be
more intuitive in 2.1 because the work by Juergen Spitzmueller.

Best,

Scott

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jannick jannick.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 this is just a remark for potentially amending the documentation and beamer
 templates after I was searching what was happening to my lyx presentation:

 If frame end commands are omitted (which is no harm to the lyx beamer
 document so far), it is needed to have a close frame command at the end of
 the document (see here
 http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/07/22/lyxframeend-undefined-when-using-beamer-with-lyx).

Thank you for the suggestion Jannick. Fortunately, things should be
more intuitive in 2.1 because the work by Juergen Spitzmueller.

Best,

Scott

Re: beamer: \lyxframeend undefined error

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jannick  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is just a remark for potentially amending the documentation and beamer
> templates after I was searching what was happening to my lyx presentation:
>
> If frame end commands are omitted (which is no harm to the lyx beamer
> document so far), it is needed to have a close frame command at the end of
> the document (see here
> http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/07/22/lyxframeend-undefined-when-using-beamer-with-lyx).

Thank you for the suggestion Jannick. Fortunately, things should be
more intuitive in 2.1 because the work by Juergen Spitzmueller.

Best,

Scott

Re: Beamer block environment title - do I have to use ERT?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag 13 Juli 2013, 19:06:20 schrieb Joon Ro:
 I have looked around but have not been able to find a way to put a title on
 a block environment without using ERT - for example, the example file in
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg56080.html.

You don't need to put the whole title in ERT, but the title must be enclosed 
in braces: {...}, These must be in ERT.

This will change with forthcoming LyX 2.1.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer block environment title - do I have to use ERT?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag 13 Juli 2013, 19:06:20 schrieb Joon Ro:
 I have looked around but have not been able to find a way to put a title on
 a block environment without using ERT - for example, the example file in
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg56080.html.

You don't need to put the whole title in ERT, but the title must be enclosed 
in braces: {...}, These must be in ERT.

This will change with forthcoming LyX 2.1.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer block environment title - do I have to use ERT?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag 13 Juli 2013, 19:06:20 schrieb Joon Ro:
> I have looked around but have not been able to find a way to put a title on
> a block environment without using ERT - for example, the example file in
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg56080.html.

You don't need to put the whole title in ERT, but the title must be enclosed 
in braces: {...}, These must be in ERT.

This will change with forthcoming LyX 2.1.

Jürgen

Re: beamer documentation

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:

2013/6/11 Csikos Bela
Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
template according to my liking (in the document#39;s preamble)? The user
guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would 
like to
change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline, changing the
navigation icons, etc.

I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.Jürgen

Thanks. I am reading the manual. It has more information than I thought first.

bcsikos

Re: beamer documentation

[Wolfgang Keller]

 Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust
 a template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The
 user guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For
 example I would like to change the sizes and positioning of the
 headline and footline, changing the navigation icons, etc.

There's a specific Beamer mailinglist:

http://groups.google.com/group/beamer-class/subscribe?hl=en_US

mailto:beamer-class+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: beamer documentation

[Csikos Bela]

Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org írta:

2013/6/11 Csikos Bela
Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
template according to my liking (in the document#39;s preamble)? The user
guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would 
like to
change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline, changing the
navigation icons, etc.

I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.Jürgen

Thanks. I am reading the manual. It has more information than I thought first.

bcsikos

Re: beamer documentation

[Wolfgang Keller]

 Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust
 a template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The
 user guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For
 example I would like to change the sizes and positioning of the
 headline and footline, changing the navigation icons, etc.

There's a specific Beamer mailinglist:

http://groups.google.com/group/beamer-class/subscribe?hl=en_US

mailto:beamer-class+subscr...@googlegroups.com

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: beamer documentation

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller"  írta:

>2013/6/11 Csikos Bela
>>Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
>>template according to my liking (in the documents preamble)? The user
>>guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would 
>>like to
>>change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline, changing the
>>navigation icons, etc.

>I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
>questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.Jürgen

Thanks. I am reading the manual. It has more information than I thought first.

bcsikos

Re: beamer documentation

[Wolfgang Keller]

> Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust
> a template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The
> user guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For
> example I would like to change the sizes and positioning of the
> headline and footline, changing the navigation icons, etc.

There's a specific Beamer mailinglist:





Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: beamer documentation

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2013/6/11 Csikos Bela

 Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
 template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The user
 guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would
 like to change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline,
 changing the navigation icons, etc.


I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.

Jürgen

Re: beamer documentation

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2013/6/11 Csikos Bela

 Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
 template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The user
 guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would
 like to change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline,
 changing the navigation icons, etc.


I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.

Jürgen

Re: beamer documentation

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2013/6/11 Csikos Bela

> Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
> template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The user
> guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would
> like to change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline,
> changing the navigation icons, etc.
>

I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.

Jürgen

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 06 Juni 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Patrick Dupre:
 How can I avoid the following message:
 
 Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure instead
 on input line 345.
 
 \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}

As the message says: remove the class option red, and instead, load the 
structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}

Jürgen

Re: Beamer: structure

[Patrick Dupre]

 - Original Message -
 From: Jürgen Spitzmüller
 Sent: 06/06/13 02:13 PM
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Beamer: structure
 
 Am Donnerstag 06 Juni 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Patrick Dupre:
  How can I avoid the following message:
  
  Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure instead
  on input line 345.
  
  \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}
 
 As the message says: remove the class option red, and instead, load the 
 structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}
 
Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the color 
red!



===
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===

Re: Beamer: structure

[Patrick Dupre]

   How can I avoid the following message:
   
   Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure 
   instead
   on input line 345.
   
   \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}
  
  As the message says: remove the class option red, and instead, load the 
  structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}
  
 Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the 
 color red!
In fact 
\usetheme{Madrid}%
\usecolortheme{Red}

Mess up the default colors!

 
 
 ===
  Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
  Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
  Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
  Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
  189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
 ===


===
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Patrick Dupre wrote:
  Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the
  color red!
 In fact 
 \usetheme{Madrid}%
 \usecolortheme{Red}
 
 Mess up the default colors!

Did you try
\usetheme{Madrid}
\usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}

Jürgen

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 06 Juni 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Patrick Dupre:
 How can I avoid the following message:
 
 Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure instead
 on input line 345.
 
 \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}

As the message says: remove the class option red, and instead, load the 
structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}

Jürgen

Re: Beamer: structure

[Patrick Dupre]

 - Original Message -
 From: Jürgen Spitzmüller
 Sent: 06/06/13 02:13 PM
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Beamer: structure
 
 Am Donnerstag 06 Juni 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Patrick Dupre:
  How can I avoid the following message:
  
  Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure instead
  on input line 345.
  
  \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}
 
 As the message says: remove the class option red, and instead, load the 
 structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}
 
Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the color 
red!



===
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===

Re: Beamer: structure

[Patrick Dupre]

   How can I avoid the following message:
   
   Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure 
   instead
   on input line 345.
   
   \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}
  
  As the message says: remove the class option red, and instead, load the 
  structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}
  
 Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the 
 color red!
In fact 
\usetheme{Madrid}%
\usecolortheme{Red}

Mess up the default colors!

 
 
 ===
  Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
  Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
  Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
  Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
  189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
 ===


===
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Patrick Dupre wrote:
  Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the
  color red!
 In fact 
 \usetheme{Madrid}%
 \usecolortheme{Red}
 
 Mess up the default colors!

Did you try
\usetheme{Madrid}
\usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}

Jürgen

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 06 Juni 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Patrick Dupre:
> How can I avoid the following message:
> 
> Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure instead
> on input line 345.
> 
> \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}

As the message says: remove the class option "red", and instead, load the 
structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}

Jürgen

Re: Beamer: structure

[Patrick Dupre]

> - Original Message -
> From: Jürgen Spitzmüller
> Sent: 06/06/13 02:13 PM
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: Beamer: structure
> 
> Am Donnerstag 06 Juni 2013, 13:52:58 schrieb Patrick Dupre:
> > How can I avoid the following message:
> > 
> > Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure instead
> > on input line 345.
> > 
> > \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}
> 
> As the message says: remove the class option "red", and instead, load the 
> structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}
> 
Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the color 
red!



===
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===

Re: Beamer: structure

[Patrick Dupre]

> > > How can I avoid the following message:
> > > 
> > > Class beamer Warning: ``red'' is obsolete. Use color theme structure 
> > > instead
> > > on input line 345.
> > > 
> > > \documentclass[american,red,compress]{beamer}
> > 
> > As the message says: remove the class option "red", and instead, load the 
> > structure color theme -- in preamble: \usecolortheme{structure}
> > 
> Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the 
> color red!
In fact 
\usetheme{Madrid}%
\usecolortheme{Red}

Mess up the default colors!

> 
> 
> ===
>  Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
>  Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
>  Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
>  Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
>  189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
> ===


===
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===

Re: Beamer: structure

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Interesting, however, I am unable to have back the theme Madrid with the
> > color red!
> In fact 
> \usetheme{Madrid}%
> \usecolortheme{Red}
> 
> Mess up the default colors!

Did you try
\usetheme{Madrid}
\usecolortheme[named=red]{structure}

Jürgen

Re: beamer

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 I prepared a talk with beamer. I would like to easly convert it to a
 poster (ie removing for example the bottom panel).
 Is it possible?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1435837/how-to-remove-footers-of-latex-beamer-templates
%gets rid of navigation symbols
\setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{}

Liviu

Re: beamer

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 I prepared a talk with beamer. I would like to easly convert it to a
 poster (ie removing for example the bottom panel).
 Is it possible?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1435837/how-to-remove-footers-of-latex-beamer-templates
%gets rid of navigation symbols
\setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{}

Liviu

Re: beamer

[Liviu Andronic]

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> I prepared a talk with beamer. I would like to easly convert it to a
> poster (ie removing for example the bottom panel).
> Is it possible?
>
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1435837/how-to-remove-footers-of-latex-beamer-templates
%gets rid of navigation symbols
\setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{}

Liviu

Re: beamer and pstricks

[Liviu Andronic]

Did you load necessary packages in preamble?

Liviu

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, mistermind masterm...@wibox.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I am using the beamer-conference-ornate template and I like to insert
 pstricks code within.  I get the following error when any pstricks code is
 insert
 undefined control sequence
 missing $ inserted ..
 here is the sample of code

 \newrgbcolor{zzttqq}{0.6 0.2 0}
 \psset{xunit=1.0cm,yunit=1.0cm,algebraic=true,dotstyle=o,dotsize=3pt
 0,linewidth=0.8pt,arrowsize=3pt 2,arrowinset=0.25}
 \begin{pspicture*}(1.66,2.26)(4.98,4.4)
 \psaxes[labelFontSize=\scriptstyle,xAxis=true,yAxis=true,Dx=1,Dy=1,ticksize=-2pt
 0,subticks=2]{-}(0,0)(1.66,2.26)(4.98,4.4)
 \pspolygon[linecolor=zzttqq,fillcolor=zzttqq,fillstyle=solid,opacity=0.1](3.28,2.66)(2.32,3.92)(3.54,3.86)
 \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](3.28,2.66)(2.32,3.92)
 \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](2.32,3.92)(3.54,3.86)
 \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](3.54,3.86)(3.28,2.66) \begin{scriptsize}
 \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](3.28,2.66)
 \rput[bl](3.36,2.78){\blue{$A$}}
 \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](2.32,3.92)
 \rput[bl](2.4,4.04){\blue{$B$}}
 \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](3.54,3.86)
 \rput[bl](3.62,3.98){\blue{$C$}} \end{scriptsize} \end{pspicture*}
 \end{document}

 What is the correct way to use pstrick with beamer? Or someone has a working
 template?

 thanks.



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: beamer and pstricks

[mistermind]

Here is the preamble
\usetheme{Warsaw}

% or ...


\setbeamercovered{transparent}

% or whatever (possibly just delete it)

\usepackage{pstricks}


and I try other package with no more success

Re: beamer and pstricks

[Liviu Andronic]

Did you load necessary packages in preamble?

Liviu

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, mistermind masterm...@wibox.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I am using the beamer-conference-ornate template and I like to insert
 pstricks code within.  I get the following error when any pstricks code is
 insert
 undefined control sequence
 missing $ inserted ..
 here is the sample of code

 \newrgbcolor{zzttqq}{0.6 0.2 0}
 \psset{xunit=1.0cm,yunit=1.0cm,algebraic=true,dotstyle=o,dotsize=3pt
 0,linewidth=0.8pt,arrowsize=3pt 2,arrowinset=0.25}
 \begin{pspicture*}(1.66,2.26)(4.98,4.4)
 \psaxes[labelFontSize=\scriptstyle,xAxis=true,yAxis=true,Dx=1,Dy=1,ticksize=-2pt
 0,subticks=2]{-}(0,0)(1.66,2.26)(4.98,4.4)
 \pspolygon[linecolor=zzttqq,fillcolor=zzttqq,fillstyle=solid,opacity=0.1](3.28,2.66)(2.32,3.92)(3.54,3.86)
 \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](3.28,2.66)(2.32,3.92)
 \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](2.32,3.92)(3.54,3.86)
 \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](3.54,3.86)(3.28,2.66) \begin{scriptsize}
 \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](3.28,2.66)
 \rput[bl](3.36,2.78){\blue{$A$}}
 \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](2.32,3.92)
 \rput[bl](2.4,4.04){\blue{$B$}}
 \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](3.54,3.86)
 \rput[bl](3.62,3.98){\blue{$C$}} \end{scriptsize} \end{pspicture*}
 \end{document}

 What is the correct way to use pstrick with beamer? Or someone has a working
 template?

 thanks.



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: beamer and pstricks

[mistermind]

Here is the preamble
\usetheme{Warsaw}

% or ...


\setbeamercovered{transparent}

% or whatever (possibly just delete it)

\usepackage{pstricks}


and I try other package with no more success

Re: beamer and pstricks

[Liviu Andronic]

Did you load necessary packages in preamble?

Liviu

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, mistermind  wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am using the beamer-conference-ornate template and I like to insert
> pstricks code within.  I get the following error when any pstricks code is
> insert
> "undefined control sequence
> missing $ inserted .."
> here is the sample of code
>
> \newrgbcolor{zzttqq}{0.6 0.2 0}
> \psset{xunit=1.0cm,yunit=1.0cm,algebraic=true,dotstyle=o,dotsize=3pt
> 0,linewidth=0.8pt,arrowsize=3pt 2,arrowinset=0.25}
> \begin{pspicture*}(1.66,2.26)(4.98,4.4)
> \psaxes[labelFontSize=\scriptstyle,xAxis=true,yAxis=true,Dx=1,Dy=1,ticksize=-2pt
> 0,subticks=2]{->}(0,0)(1.66,2.26)(4.98,4.4)
> \pspolygon[linecolor=zzttqq,fillcolor=zzttqq,fillstyle=solid,opacity=0.1](3.28,2.66)(2.32,3.92)(3.54,3.86)
> \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](3.28,2.66)(2.32,3.92)
> \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](2.32,3.92)(3.54,3.86)
> \psline[linecolor=zzttqq](3.54,3.86)(3.28,2.66) \begin{scriptsize}
> \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](3.28,2.66)
> \rput[bl](3.36,2.78){\blue{$A$}}
> \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](2.32,3.92)
> \rput[bl](2.4,4.04){\blue{$B$}}
> \psdots[dotstyle=*,linecolor=blue](3.54,3.86)
> \rput[bl](3.62,3.98){\blue{$C$}} \end{scriptsize} \end{pspicture*}
> \end{document}
>
> What is the correct way to use pstrick with beamer? Or someone has a working
> template?
>
> thanks.



-- 
Do you know how to read?
http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader
Do you know how to write?
http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail

Re: beamer and pstricks

[mistermind]

Here is the preamble
\usetheme{Warsaw}

% or ...


\setbeamercovered{transparent}

% or whatever (possibly just delete it)

\usepackage{pstricks}


and I try other package with no more success

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

 In version 2.0.5.1 when I tried to un-alert highlighted text that option
 was greyed out in the text style sub-menu. Trying it on regular text
 indicates I can turn on the red text but I don't know it will then allow me
 to turn it off.


You alert by selecting a string and the Edit  Text Style  Alert. You
un-alert either by putting the cursor at the first position of the alerted
string and then press backspace, or via the context-menu Dissolve Inset.

This is the same in LyX 2.0.x and 2.1. What LyX 2.0.x does not support (but
2.1 does) are alerts with overlays, i.e. \alert2-3{Alert me on slide 2
and 3}.

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:


You alert by selecting a string and the Edit  Text Style  Alert. You
un-alert either by putting the cursor at the first position of the alerted
string and then press backspace, or via the context-menu Dissolve Inset.


Jürgen,

  Thanks for the explanation. I tried highlighting the red text I wanted to
change back to black and found the alert menu option unavailable. This was
part of a string, not the entire string. I suppose that turning off alert
for the entire string, then turning it on only for part of it would have
worked, too. I did not try back-spacing at the beginning of the string.

Much appreciated,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.  |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

 In version 2.0.5.1 when I tried to un-alert highlighted text that option
 was greyed out in the text style sub-menu. Trying it on regular text
 indicates I can turn on the red text but I don't know it will then allow me
 to turn it off.


You alert by selecting a string and the Edit  Text Style  Alert. You
un-alert either by putting the cursor at the first position of the alerted
string and then press backspace, or via the context-menu Dissolve Inset.

This is the same in LyX 2.0.x and 2.1. What LyX 2.0.x does not support (but
2.1 does) are alerts with overlays, i.e. \alert2-3{Alert me on slide 2
and 3}.

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:


You alert by selecting a string and the Edit  Text Style  Alert. You
un-alert either by putting the cursor at the first position of the alerted
string and then press backspace, or via the context-menu Dissolve Inset.


Jürgen,

  Thanks for the explanation. I tried highlighting the red text I wanted to
change back to black and found the alert menu option unavailable. This was
part of a string, not the entire string. I suppose that turning off alert
for the entire string, then turning it on only for part of it would have
worked, too. I did not try back-spacing at the beginning of the string.

Much appreciated,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.  |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

>
> In version 2.0.5.1 when I tried to un-alert highlighted text that option
> was greyed out in the text style sub-menu. Trying it on regular text
> indicates I can turn on the red text but I don't know it will then allow me
> to turn it off.
>

You alert by selecting a string and the Edit > Text Style > Alert. You
un-alert either by putting the cursor at the first position of the alerted
string and then press backspace, or via the context-menu "Dissolve Inset".

This is the same in LyX 2.0.x and 2.1. What LyX 2.0.x does not support (but
2.1 does) are alerts with overlays, i.e. \alert<2-3>{Alert me on slide 2
and 3}.

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:


You alert by selecting a string and the Edit > Text Style > Alert. You
un-alert either by putting the cursor at the first position of the alerted
string and then press backspace, or via the context-menu "Dissolve Inset".


Jürgen,

  Thanks for the explanation. I tried highlighting the red text I wanted to
change back to black and found the alert menu option unavailable. This was
part of a string, not the entire string. I suppose that turning off alert
for the entire string, then turning it on only for part of it would have
worked, too. I did not try back-spacing at the beginning of the string.

Much appreciated,

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.  |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[curtis osterhoudt]

Hi, Rich, 

   At least in the 2.1 development build (which I've been using for nearly a 
year now), I highlight what text I want to change the style of, and either 
choose (a) the main Edit menu and the Text Style sub-menu, or (b) 
right-click and choose Text Style directly. Then I can pick Alert from the 
choices which appear, or choose Customized and pick a combination of text 
sizes, colors, underlining, and so forth.

   You'll also see a Reset command in the deepest menus, which apparently 
throws all of the options back to the Beamer default styles.

   Exactly how it'll look is always sort of a gamble, as I still don't have a 
good feeling for how big Larger is vs. Huge, nor do I know how to set a 
default text style for my documents which differs from the Beamer defaults (for 
example). 

 Hope that helps, 
         Curtis




 From: Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert
 

  Writing a presentation with the beamer class template. The summary section
has certain words shown in red which is controlled in LaTeX with the \alert
command. The beamer doc notes that for LyX, The \alert command needs to be
entered in TEX-mode, which is awkward. It's easier to just paint the text in
red. I'm trying to un-paint a string and not finding a menu option or icon
that's relevant.

  The LyX User Guide tells me in Section B.10, Here you can alter the font
color for the main text (default: black) and for Greyed out notes (default:
light grey). The button Reset sets the color back to the default.

  I cannot find the \alert command or a 'Reset' button anywhere. Please
point me to the control for text color in a beamer class document.

TIA,

Rich

-- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.          |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
http://www.appl-ecosys.com     Voice: 503-667-4517      Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, curtis osterhoudt wrote:


   At least in the 2.1 development build (which I've been using for nearly
a year now), I highlight what text I want to change the style of, and
either choose (a) the main Edit menu and the Text Style sub-menu, or
(b) right-click and choose Text Style directly. Then I can pick Alert
from the choices which appear, or choose Customized and pick a
combination of text sizes, colors, underlining, and so forth.


Curtis,

  In version 2.0.5.1 when I tried to un-alert highlighted text that option
was greyed out in the text style sub-menu. Trying it on regular text
indicates I can turn on the red text but I don't know it will then allow me
to turn it off.

  Interesting. Thanks.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.  |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[curtis osterhoudt]

Hi, Rich, 

   At least in the 2.1 development build (which I've been using for nearly a 
year now), I highlight what text I want to change the style of, and either 
choose (a) the main Edit menu and the Text Style sub-menu, or (b) 
right-click and choose Text Style directly. Then I can pick Alert from the 
choices which appear, or choose Customized and pick a combination of text 
sizes, colors, underlining, and so forth.

   You'll also see a Reset command in the deepest menus, which apparently 
throws all of the options back to the Beamer default styles.

   Exactly how it'll look is always sort of a gamble, as I still don't have a 
good feeling for how big Larger is vs. Huge, nor do I know how to set a 
default text style for my documents which differs from the Beamer defaults (for 
example). 

 Hope that helps, 
         Curtis




 From: Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert
 

  Writing a presentation with the beamer class template. The summary section
has certain words shown in red which is controlled in LaTeX with the \alert
command. The beamer doc notes that for LyX, The \alert command needs to be
entered in TEX-mode, which is awkward. It's easier to just paint the text in
red. I'm trying to un-paint a string and not finding a menu option or icon
that's relevant.

  The LyX User Guide tells me in Section B.10, Here you can alter the font
color for the main text (default: black) and for Greyed out notes (default:
light grey). The button Reset sets the color back to the default.

  I cannot find the \alert command or a 'Reset' button anywhere. Please
point me to the control for text color in a beamer class document.

TIA,

Rich

-- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.          |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
http://www.appl-ecosys.com     Voice: 503-667-4517      Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, curtis osterhoudt wrote:


   At least in the 2.1 development build (which I've been using for nearly
a year now), I highlight what text I want to change the style of, and
either choose (a) the main Edit menu and the Text Style sub-menu, or
(b) right-click and choose Text Style directly. Then I can pick Alert
from the choices which appear, or choose Customized and pick a
combination of text sizes, colors, underlining, and so forth.


Curtis,

  In version 2.0.5.1 when I tried to un-alert highlighted text that option
was greyed out in the text style sub-menu. Trying it on regular text
indicates I can turn on the red text but I don't know it will then allow me
to turn it off.

  Interesting. Thanks.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.  |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[curtis osterhoudt]

Hi, Rich, 

   At least in the 2.1 development build (which I've been using for nearly a 
year now), I highlight what text I want to change the style of, and either 
choose (a) the main "Edit" menu and the "Text Style" sub-menu, or (b) 
right-click and choose "Text Style" directly. Then I can pick "Alert" from the 
choices which appear, or choose "Customized" and pick a combination of text 
sizes, colors, underlining, and so forth.

   You'll also see a "Reset" command in the deepest menus, which apparently 
throws all of the options back to the Beamer default styles.

   Exactly how it'll look is always sort of a gamble, as I still don't have a 
good feeling for how big "Larger" is vs. "Huge", nor do I know how to set a 
default text style for my documents which differs from the Beamer defaults (for 
example). 

 Hope that helps, 
         Curtis



>
> From: Rich Shepard 
>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:27 AM
>Subject: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert
> 
>
>  Writing a presentation with the beamer class template. The summary section
>has certain words shown in red which is controlled in LaTeX with the \alert
>command. The beamer doc notes that for LyX, "The \alert command needs to be
>entered in TEX-mode, which is awkward. It's easier to just paint the text in
>red." I'm trying to un-paint a string and not finding a menu option or icon
>that's relevant.
>
>  The LyX User Guide tells me in Section B.10, "Here you can alter the font
>color for the main text (default: black) and for Greyed out notes (default:
>light grey). The button Reset sets the color back to the default."
>
>  I cannot find the \alert command or a 'Reset' button anywhere. Please
>point me to the control for text color in a beamer class document.
>
>TIA,
>
>Rich
>
>-- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.          |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
>Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
>     Voice: 503-667-4517      Fax: 503-667-8863
>
>
>
>

Re: Beamer Class: Controlling \alert

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, curtis osterhoudt wrote:


   At least in the 2.1 development build (which I've been using for nearly
a year now), I highlight what text I want to change the style of, and
either choose (a) the main "Edit" menu and the "Text Style" sub-menu, or
(b) right-click and choose "Text Style" directly. Then I can pick "Alert"
from the choices which appear, or choose "Customized" and pick a
combination of text sizes, colors, underlining, and so forth.


Curtis,

  In version 2.0.5.1 when I tried to un-alert highlighted text that option
was greyed out in the text style sub-menu. Trying it on regular text
indicates I can turn on the red text but I don't know it will then allow me
to turn it off.

  Interesting. Thanks.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.  |   Integrity - Credibility - Innovation
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.   |
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Beamer slides without side number and not count by the number of page side

[Paul A . Rubin]

To display the slide without a visible number, you can use the BeginPlainFrame
environment (which will suppress the head and foot lines).

To prevent the slide from being counted, add (on the example slide) a TeX box
(ERT) containing \addtocounter{framenumber}{-1}.

Paul