Re: document statistics

2013-06-18 Thread Bruce Pourciau 

On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
 Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
  bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
   stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
   On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
   wrote:
  
   Hello:
   Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
   number in
   a document.
   Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
   make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
   is not
   edited in
   lyx?
  
   If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
   so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
   ready.
  
   Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
   plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
   have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
   to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
   use okular directly.
  
   Thanks.
  
   bcsikos
  
  
  
  Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
  Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
  freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
  file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
  imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
  Maria
 
 Hi Maria,
 
 The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
 file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
 \begin{standard}.
 
 
 You can use the detex utility for that:
 
 $ man detex
 NAME
detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.
 
 That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes 
 happens) you need to include references in the word count.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano

Couldn't one replace the inserted bibtex bibliography with the .bbl file that 
it generates and then do the word count?

Bruce

Re: document statistics

2013-06-18 Thread stefano franchi 
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Pourciau 
bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu wrote:


 On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, stefano franchi wrote:




 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
 Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
  bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
   stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
   On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
   wrote:
  
   Hello:
   Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
   number in
   a document.
   Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
   make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
   is not
   edited in
   lyx?
  
   If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
   so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
   ready.
  
   Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
   plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
   have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
   to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
   use okular directly.
  
   Thanks.
  
   bcsikos
  
  
  
  Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
  Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
  freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
  file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
  imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
  Maria

 Hi Maria,

 The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
 file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
 \begin{standard}.



 You can use the detex utility for that:

 $ man detex
 NAME
detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.

 That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes
 happens) you need to include references in the word count.


 Cheers,

 Stefano


 Couldn't one replace the inserted bibtex bibliography with the .bbl file
 that it generates and then do the word count?


I suppose one could---never tried though. I don't know if detex is smart
enough to handle references. I must say, though, that Maria's solution
starts to be more appealing if you have to go through: export to latex/run
latex and bibtex / open latex and bbl file in editor / append  latter to
former / detex and word count. If and when the append bbl option will be
automated (see other threads), if could be relatively painless to implement
a small utility that would count words in the final tex output.

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-18 Thread Bruce Pourciau 

On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

 
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
 Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
  bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
   stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
   On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
   wrote:
  
   Hello:
   Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
   number in
   a document.
   Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
   make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
   is not
   edited in
   lyx?
  
   If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
   so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
   ready.
  
   Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
   plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
   have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
   to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
   use okular directly.
  
   Thanks.
  
   bcsikos
  
  
  
  Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
  Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
  freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
  file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
  imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
  Maria
 
 Hi Maria,
 
 The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
 file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
 \begin{standard}.
 
 
 You can use the detex utility for that:
 
 $ man detex
 NAME
detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.
 
 That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes 
 happens) you need to include references in the word count.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano

Couldn't one replace the inserted bibtex bibliography with the .bbl file that 
it generates and then do the word count?

Bruce

Re: document statistics

2013-06-18 Thread stefano franchi 
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Pourciau 
bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu wrote:


 On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, stefano franchi wrote:




 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
 Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
  bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
   stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
   On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
   wrote:
  
   Hello:
   Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
   number in
   a document.
   Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
   make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
   is not
   edited in
   lyx?
  
   If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
   so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
   ready.
  
   Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
   plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
   have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
   to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
   use okular directly.
  
   Thanks.
  
   bcsikos
  
  
  
  Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
  Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
  freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
  file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
  imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
  Maria

 Hi Maria,

 The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
 file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
 \begin{standard}.



 You can use the detex utility for that:

 $ man detex
 NAME
detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.

 That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes
 happens) you need to include references in the word count.


 Cheers,

 Stefano


 Couldn't one replace the inserted bibtex bibliography with the .bbl file
 that it generates and then do the word count?


I suppose one could---never tried though. I don't know if detex is smart
enough to handle references. I must say, though, that Maria's solution
starts to be more appealing if you have to go through: export to latex/run
latex and bibtex / open latex and bbl file in editor / append  latter to
former / detex and word count. If and when the append bbl option will be
automated (see other threads), if could be relatively painless to implement
a small utility that would count words in the final tex output.

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-18 Thread Bruce Pourciau 

On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, stefano franchi wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
> Maria Gouskova  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
> > wrote:
> >
> > > stefano franchi  írta:
> > > >On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>Hello:
> > > >>>Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
> > > number in
> > > >>>a document.
> > > >>>Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I
> > > >>>make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
> > > >>>is not
> > > edited in
> > > >>l>yx?
> > >
> > > >>If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
> > > >>so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
> > > >>ready.
> > >
> > > >Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
> > > >plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
> > > >have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
> > > >to obtain final figures. Id be glad to skip a step or two and
> > > >use okular directly.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > bcsikos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
> > Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
> > freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
> > file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
> > imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  "word" is.
> >
> > Maria
> 
> Hi Maria,
> 
> The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
> file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
> \begin{standard}.
> 
> 
> You can use the detex utility for that:
> 
> $ man detex
> NAME
>detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.
> 
> That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes 
> happens) you need to include references in the word count.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefano

Couldn't one replace the inserted bibtex bibliography with the .bbl file that 
it generates and then do the word count?

Bruce

Re: document statistics

2013-06-18 Thread stefano franchi 
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Pourciau <
bruce.h.pourc...@lawrence.edu> wrote:

>
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
>> Maria Gouskova  wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > stefano franchi  írta:
>> > > >On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >>>Hello:
>> > > >>>Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
>> > > number in
>> > > >>>a document.
>> > > >>>Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I
>> > > >>>make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
>> > > >>>is not
>> > > edited in
>> > > >>l>yx?
>> > >
>> > > >>If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
>> > > >>so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
>> > > >>ready.
>> > >
>> > > >Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
>> > > >plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
>> > > >have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
>> > > >to obtain final figures. Id be glad to skip a step or two and
>> > > >use okular directly.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > bcsikos
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
>> > Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
>> > freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
>> > file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
>> > imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  "word" is.
>> >
>> > Maria
>>
>> Hi Maria,
>>
>> The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
>> file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
>> \begin{standard}.
>>
>
>
> You can use the detex utility for that:
>
> $ man detex
> NAME
>detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.
>
> That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes
> happens) you need to include references in the word count.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
>
> Couldn't one replace the inserted bibtex bibliography with the .bbl file
> that it generates and then do the word count?
>

I suppose one could---never tried though. I don't know if detex is smart
enough to handle references. I must say, though, that Maria's solution
starts to be more appealing if you have to go through: export to latex/run
latex and bibtex / open latex and bbl file in editor / append  latter to
former / detex and word count. If and when the "append bbl option" will be
automated (see other threads), if could be relatively painless to implement
a small utility that would count words in the final tex output.

Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Csikos Bela 
stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:

Hello:
Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number in 
a document.
Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make 
statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited in 
lyx?

If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use
Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a plugin/
extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any 
facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final 
figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.

Thanks.

bcsikos

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Maria Gouskova 
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:

 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
 wrote:

 Hello:
 Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
 number in
 a document.
 Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make
 statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not
 edited in
 lyx?

 If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use
 Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

 Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a plugin/
 extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any
 facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final
 figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.

 Thanks.

 bcsikos



Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS, freeware).
Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text file, and you'll
have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are imprecise because of
variable definitions of what a  word is.

Maria

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Steve Litt 
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
 bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
  stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
  On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
  wrote:
 
  Hello:
  Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
  number in
  a document.
  Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
  make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
  is not
  edited in
  lyx?
 
  If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
  so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
  ready.
 
  Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
  plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
  have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
  to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
  use okular directly.
 
  Thanks.
 
  bcsikos
 
 
 
 Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
 Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
 freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
 file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
 imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
 Maria

Hi Maria,

The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
\begin{standard}.

SteveT

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread stefano franchi 
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
 Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
  bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
   stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
   On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
   wrote:
  
   Hello:
   Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
   number in
   a document.
   Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
   make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
   is not
   edited in
   lyx?
  
   If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
   so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
   ready.
  
   Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
   plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
   have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
   to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
   use okular directly.
  
   Thanks.
  
   bcsikos
  
  
  
  Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
  Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
  freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
  file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
  imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
  Maria

 Hi Maria,

 The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
 file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
 \begin{standard}.



You can use the detex utility for that:

$ man detex
NAME
   detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.

That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes
happens) you need to include references in the word count.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Csikos Bela 
stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:

Hello:
Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number in 
a document.
Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make 
statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited in 
lyx?

If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use
Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a plugin/
extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any 
facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final 
figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.

Thanks.

bcsikos

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Maria Gouskova 
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:

 stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
 wrote:

 Hello:
 Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
 number in
 a document.
 Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make
 statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not
 edited in
 lyx?

 If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use
 Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

 Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a plugin/
 extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any
 facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final
 figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.

 Thanks.

 bcsikos



Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS, freeware).
Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text file, and you'll
have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are imprecise because of
variable definitions of what a  word is.

Maria

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Steve Litt 
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
 bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
  stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
  On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
  wrote:
 
  Hello:
  Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
  number in
  a document.
  Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
  make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
  is not
  edited in
  lyx?
 
  If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
  so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
  ready.
 
  Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
  plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
  have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
  to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
  use okular directly.
 
  Thanks.
 
  bcsikos
 
 
 
 Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
 Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
 freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
 file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
 imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
 Maria

Hi Maria,

The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
\begin{standard}.

SteveT

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread stefano franchi 
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote:

 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
 Maria Gouskova gousk...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
  bcsikos...@freemail.huwrote:
 
   stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com írta:
   On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu
   wrote:
  
   Hello:
   Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
   number in
   a document.
   Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I
   make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
   is not
   edited in
   lyx?
  
   If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
   so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
   ready.
  
   Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
   plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
   have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
   to obtain final figures. I#39;d be glad to skip a step or two and
   use okular directly.
  
   Thanks.
  
   bcsikos
  
  
  
  Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
  Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
  freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
  file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
  imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  word is.
 
  Maria

 Hi Maria,

 The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
 file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
 \begin{standard}.



You can use the detex utility for that:

$ man detex
NAME
   detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.

That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes
happens) you need to include references in the word count.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Csikos Bela 
stefano franchi  írta:
>On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu> wrote:

>>>Hello:
>>>Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number in 
>>>a document.
>>>Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I make 
>>>statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited in 
>>l>yx?

>>If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use
>>Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

>Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a plugin/
>extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any 
>facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final 
>figures. Id be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.

Thanks.

bcsikos

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Maria Gouskova 
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

> stefano franchi  írta:
> >On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu>
> wrote:
>
> >>>Hello:
> >>>Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
> number in
> >>>a document.
> >>>Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I make
> >>>statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not
> edited in
> >>l>yx?
>
> >>If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use
> >>Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.
>
> >Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a plugin/
> >extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any
> >facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final
> >figures. Id be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> bcsikos
>
>
>
Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS, freeware).
Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text file, and you'll
have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are imprecise because of
variable definitions of what a  "word" is.

Maria

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread Steve Litt 
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
Maria Gouskova  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
> wrote:
> 
> > stefano franchi  írta:
> > >On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>>Hello:
> > >>>Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
> > number in
> > >>>a document.
> > >>>Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I
> > >>>make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
> > >>>is not
> > edited in
> > >>l>yx?
> >
> > >>If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
> > >>so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
> > >>ready.
> >
> > >Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
> > >plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
> > >have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
> > >to obtain final figures. Id be glad to skip a step or two and
> > >use okular directly.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > bcsikos
> >
> >
> >
> Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
> Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
> freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
> file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
> imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  "word" is.
> 
> Maria

Hi Maria,

The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
\begin{standard}.

SteveT

Re: document statistics

2013-06-17 Thread stefano franchi 
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:07:57 -0400
> Maria Gouskova  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Csikos Bela
> > wrote:
> >
> > > stefano franchi  írta:
> > > >On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>Hello:
> > > >>>Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character
> > > number in
> > > >>>a document.
> > > >>>Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I
> > > >>>make statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which
> > > >>>is not
> > > edited in
> > > >>l>yx?
> > >
> > > >>If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words,
> > > >>so I use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is
> > > >>ready.
> > >
> > > >Alex,I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
> > > >plugin/ extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to
> > > >have any facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need
> > > >to obtain final figures. Id be glad to skip a step or two and
> > > >use okular directly.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > bcsikos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Any decent text editor will count up words for you, as will Open
> > Office/Libre Office. I usually use TextWrangler.app (Mac OS,
> > freeware). Take your PDF, copy and paste the contents into a text
> > file, and you'll have an estimate. All estimates of word counts are
> > imprecise because of variable definitions of what a  "word" is.
> >
> > Maria
>
> Hi Maria,
>
> The one caveat with editor word counting, or for that matter piping the
> file into wc, is that you need to find a way to not count markup like
> \begin{standard}.
>


You can use the detex utility for that:

$ man detex
NAME
   detex - a filter to strip TeX commands from a .tex file.

That will not help you with the bibliography, however, if (as it sometimes
happens) you need to include references in the word count.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-14 Thread Alex Vergara Gil 

Hello:

Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number 
in a document.
Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make 
statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited 
in lyx?


Thanks,

bcsikos

If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use 
Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.


Alex

Re: document statistics

2013-06-14 Thread stefano franchi 
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:

 Hello:

 Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number
 in a document.
 Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make
 statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited
 in lyx?

 Thanks,

 bcsikos

  If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I
 use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

 Alex,


I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
plugin/extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any
facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final
figures. I'd be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-14 Thread Alex Vergara Gil 

Hello:

Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number 
in a document.
Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make 
statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited 
in lyx?


Thanks,

bcsikos

If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use 
Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.


Alex

Re: document statistics

2013-06-14 Thread stefano franchi 
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:

 Hello:

 Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number
 in a document.
 Lyx has Tools-Statistics option for the document, but how can I make
 statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited
 in lyx?

 Thanks,

 bcsikos

  If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I
 use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.

 Alex,


I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
plugin/extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any
facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final
figures. I'd be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: document statistics

2013-06-14 Thread Alex Vergara Gil 

Hello:

Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number 
in a document.
Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I make 
statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited 
in lyx?


Thanks,

bcsikos

If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I use 
Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.


Alex

Re: document statistics

2013-06-14 Thread stefano franchi 
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alex Vergara Gil  wrote:

> Hello:
>>
>> Occasionally it is necessary to count the total word or character number
>> in a document.
>> Lyx has Tools->Statistics option for the document, but how can I make
>> statistics that includes the text in the Bibliography which is not edited
>> in lyx?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> bcsikos
>>
>>  If is not edited in LyX there is no way LyX can count the words, so I
> use Okular to do this kind of things once the document is ready.
>
> Alex,


I never knew Okular could do document statistics. Is it a
plugin/extension/whatever? My version of okular does not seem to have any
facility of the kind. I use pdftotxt | wc -w when I need to obtain final
figures. I'd be glad to skip a step or two and use okular directly.


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org