Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-13 Thread Ares

From: Lennart [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 what about using two-sided document? do document -- settings and in
 the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.



Thanks! it works!

Some problems left with the numbering (lyx puts a 2 on the blank page while I am
using Italic numbers (I II IV) bu I think I can solve that myself)



I don't know if this works for you, but what I did for my PhD thesis
was creating the first pages in my favourite fashion, with:

 - first page: images (logo of my university), non standard author
names (me and my advisor), custom spacing (using vfill)
- second page: blank
- 3rd page: a quotation (it is always cool to quote someone!)
- 4th page blank

to achieve this I used the command \thispagestyle{empty} in an ERT box
(for each page) and page breakes. I know this is not in the LyX/LaTeX
philosophy but it was pretty quicker to achieve what I wanted.

Then i used the \frontmatter command (hence the roman numbering),
inserted an introduction, TOC's, \mainmatter command (arabic
numbering), the core of the thesis, and finally \backmatter with
appendices, bibliography etc

Here you can find a template for a PhD thesis based on this principles:
http://ares001.altervista.org/job/downloads/LyX_temp.rar

otherwise I can send you the whole thesis!

see you - Diego

--
Diego
http://www.ares001.altervista.org/

|   __o| It is easier
|  _`\(,_  |  to get forgiveness
| (_)/ (_) |  than permission


Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-13 Thread Ares

From: Lennart [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 what about using two-sided document? do document -- settings and in
 the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.



Thanks! it works!

Some problems left with the numbering (lyx puts a 2 on the blank page while I am
using Italic numbers (I II IV) bu I think I can solve that myself)



I don't know if this works for you, but what I did for my PhD thesis
was creating the first pages in my favourite fashion, with:

 - first page: images (logo of my university), non standard author
names (me and my advisor), custom spacing (using vfill)
- second page: blank
- 3rd page: a quotation (it is always cool to quote someone!)
- 4th page blank

to achieve this I used the command \thispagestyle{empty} in an ERT box
(for each page) and page breakes. I know this is not in the LyX/LaTeX
philosophy but it was pretty quicker to achieve what I wanted.

Then i used the \frontmatter command (hence the roman numbering),
inserted an introduction, TOC's, \mainmatter command (arabic
numbering), the core of the thesis, and finally \backmatter with
appendices, bibliography etc

Here you can find a template for a PhD thesis based on this principles:
http://ares001.altervista.org/job/downloads/LyX_temp.rar

otherwise I can send you the whole thesis!

see you - Diego

--
Diego
http://www.ares001.altervista.org/

|   __o| It is easier
|  _`\(,_  |  to get forgiveness
| (_)/ (_) |  than permission


Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-13 Thread Ares

From: Lennart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> what about using two-sided document? do document --> settings and in
> the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.
>


Thanks! it works!

Some problems left with the numbering (lyx puts a 2 on the blank page while I am
using Italic numbers (I II IV) bu I think I can solve that myself)



I don't know if this works for you, but what I did for my PhD thesis
was creating the first pages in my favourite fashion, with:

 - first page: images (logo of my university), non standard author
names (me and my advisor), custom spacing (using vfill)
- second page: blank
- 3rd page: a quotation (it is always cool to quote someone!)
- 4th page blank

to achieve this I used the command \thispagestyle{empty} in an ERT box
(for each page) and page breakes. I know this is not in the LyX/LaTeX
philosophy but it was pretty quicker to achieve what I wanted.

Then i used the \frontmatter command (hence the roman numbering),
inserted an introduction, TOC's, \mainmatter command (arabic
numbering), the core of the thesis, and finally \backmatter with
appendices, bibliography etc

Here you can find a template for a PhD thesis based on this principles:
http://ares001.altervista.org/job/downloads/LyX_temp.rar

otherwise I can send you the whole thesis!

see you - Diego

--
Diego
http://www.ares001.altervista.org/

|   __o| It is easier
|  _`\(,_  |  to get forgiveness
| (_)/ (_) |  than permission


Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-12 Thread Lennart
Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 -- Messaggio inoltrato --
 
 
 what about using two-sided document? do document -- settings and in
 the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.
 


Thanks! it works!

Some problems left with the numbering (lyx puts a 2 on the blank page while I am
using Italic numbers (I II IV) bu I think I can solve that myself)



Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-12 Thread Lennart
Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 -- Messaggio inoltrato --
 
 
 what about using two-sided document? do document -- settings and in
 the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.
 


Thanks! it works!

Some problems left with the numbering (lyx puts a 2 on the blank page while I am
using Italic numbers (I II IV) bu I think I can solve that myself)



Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-12 Thread Lennart
Ares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> 
> 
> what about using two-sided document? do document --> settings and in
> the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.
> 


Thanks! it works!

Some problems left with the numbering (lyx puts a 2 on the blank page while I am
using Italic numbers (I II IV) bu I think I can solve that myself)



Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-11 Thread Ares

-- Messaggio inoltrato --
From: Lennart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a document written in the book class. I want a white blank page after
the title page. So that the table of contents isn't printed on the back of the
title page when I print it double sided.  I know it's against the lyx
philosofy and I know how to fix it outside lyx. But I think it could be also
done in lyx. I have tried \newpage \cleardoublepage pagebreak..nothing works.
How do I insert a blank page?


what about using two-sided document? do document -- settings and in
the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.

--
Diego
http://www.ares001.altervista.org/

|   __o| It is easier
|  _`\(,_  |  to get forgiveness
| (_)/ (_) |  than permission


Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-11 Thread Ares

-- Messaggio inoltrato --
From: Lennart [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a document written in the book class. I want a white blank page after
the title page. So that the table of contents isn't printed on the back of the
title page when I print it double sided.  I know it's against the lyx
philosofy and I know how to fix it outside lyx. But I think it could be also
done in lyx. I have tried \newpage \cleardoublepage pagebreak..nothing works.
How do I insert a blank page?


what about using two-sided document? do document -- settings and in
the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.

--
Diego
http://www.ares001.altervista.org/

|   __o| It is easier
|  _`\(,_  |  to get forgiveness
| (_)/ (_) |  than permission


Re: how to insert a blank page

2007-04-11 Thread Ares

-- Messaggio inoltrato --
From: Lennart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a document written in the book class. I want a white blank page after
the title page. So that the table of contents isn't printed on the back of the
title page when I print it double sided.  I know it's against the lyx
philosofy and I know how to fix it outside lyx. But I think it could be also
done in lyx. I have tried \newpage \cleardoublepage pagebreak..nothing works.
How do I insert a blank page?


what about using two-sided document? do document --> settings and in
the Page Layout panel check the two-sided document box.

--
Diego
http://www.ares001.altervista.org/

|   __o| It is easier
|  _`\(,_  |  to get forgiveness
| (_)/ (_) |  than permission


Re: How to insert a blank page

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Smith

On 4/10/07, Lennart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a document written in the book class. I want a white blank page after
the title page. So that the table of contents isn't printed on the back of the
title page when I print it double sided.  I know it's against the lyx
philosofy and I know how to fix it outside lyx. But I think it could be also
done in lyx. I have tried \newpage \cleardoublepage pagebreak..nothing works.
How do I insert a blank page?


Insert -- Special formatting -- Page break.

Paul


Re: How to insert a blank page

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Smith

On 4/10/07, Lennart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a document written in the book class. I want a white blank page after
the title page. So that the table of contents isn't printed on the back of the
title page when I print it double sided.  I know it's against the lyx
philosofy and I know how to fix it outside lyx. But I think it could be also
done in lyx. I have tried \newpage \cleardoublepage pagebreak..nothing works.
How do I insert a blank page?


Insert -- Special formatting -- Page break.

Paul


Re: How to insert a blank page

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Smith

On 4/10/07, Lennart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have a document written in the book class. I want a white blank page after
the title page. So that the table of contents isn't printed on the back of the
title page when I print it double sided.  I know it's against the lyx
philosofy and I know how to fix it outside lyx. But I think it could be also
done in lyx. I have tried \newpage \cleardoublepage pagebreak..nothing works.
How do I insert a blank page?


Insert --> Special formatting --> Page break.

Paul


Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:53:47 +0200
From: Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: how to insert a blank page?

howdy all

i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
cover will be on the back of a double sided document.

i have tried to use:

pagebreak
\thispagestyle{empty}
\phantom{}

\clearemptydoublepage

To get it as the last page, if needed
\AtEndDocument{\clearemptydoublepage}

HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre




Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

ti, 2006-04-18 kello 14:53 +0200, Martin A. Hansen kirjoitti:
 howdy all
 
 i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
 cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
 
 i have tried to use:
 
 pagebreak
 \thispagestyle{empty}
 \phantom{}
 
 the resulting pdf look ok. however, printing the document skips blank pages
 inserted in this way!

A dirty solution might be:

Text on first page
[Page break]
\thispagestyle{empty}
Empty page [Now change the color for Empty page to white]
[Page break]
Text after the empty page...

Hope this helps.
Kimmo




Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread Martin A. Hansen
seems to rely on this:


http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=reallyblank

martin


On 4/18/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:53:47 +0200
 From: Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: how to insert a blank page?
 
 howdy all
 
 i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
 cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
 
 i have tried to use:
 
 pagebreak
 \thispagestyle{empty}
 \phantom{}

 \clearemptydoublepage

 To get it as the last page, if needed
 \AtEndDocument{\clearemptydoublepage}

 HTH

 --
 Jean-Pierre





Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:53:47 +0200
From: Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: how to insert a blank page?

howdy all

i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
cover will be on the back of a double sided document.

i have tried to use:

pagebreak
\thispagestyle{empty}
\phantom{}

\clearemptydoublepage

To get it as the last page, if needed
\AtEndDocument{\clearemptydoublepage}

HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre




Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

ti, 2006-04-18 kello 14:53 +0200, Martin A. Hansen kirjoitti:
 howdy all
 
 i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
 cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
 
 i have tried to use:
 
 pagebreak
 \thispagestyle{empty}
 \phantom{}
 
 the resulting pdf look ok. however, printing the document skips blank pages
 inserted in this way!

A dirty solution might be:

Text on first page
[Page break]
\thispagestyle{empty}
Empty page [Now change the color for Empty page to white]
[Page break]
Text after the empty page...

Hope this helps.
Kimmo




Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread Martin A. Hansen
seems to rely on this:


http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=reallyblank

martin


On 4/18/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:53:47 +0200
 From: Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: how to insert a blank page?
 
 howdy all
 
 i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
 cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
 
 i have tried to use:
 
 pagebreak
 \thispagestyle{empty}
 \phantom{}

 \clearemptydoublepage

 To get it as the last page, if needed
 \AtEndDocument{\clearemptydoublepage}

 HTH

 --
 Jean-Pierre





Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

>>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:53:47 +0200
>>From: "Martin A. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" 
>>Subject: how to insert a blank page?
>>
>>howdy all
>>
>>i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
>>cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
>>
>>i have tried to use:
>>
>>pagebreak
>>\thispagestyle{empty}
>>\phantom{}

\clearemptydoublepage

To get it as the last page, if needed
\AtEndDocument{\clearemptydoublepage}

HTH

-- 
Jean-Pierre




Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread K. Elo
Hi,

ti, 2006-04-18 kello 14:53 +0200, Martin A. Hansen kirjoitti:
> howdy all
> 
> i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
> cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
> 
> i have tried to use:
> 
> pagebreak
> \thispagestyle{empty}
> \phantom{}
> 
> the resulting pdf look ok. however, printing the document skips blank pages
> inserted in this way!

A "dirty" solution might be:

Text on first page
[Page break]
\thispagestyle{empty}
Empty page [Now change the color for "Empty page" to white]
[Page break]
Text after the empty page...

Hope this helps.
Kimmo




Re: how to insert a blank page?

2006-04-18 Thread Martin A. Hansen
seems to rely on this:


http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=reallyblank

martin


On 4/18/06, Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:53:47 +0200
> >>From: "Martin A. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" 
> >>Subject: how to insert a blank page?
> >>
> >>howdy all
> >>
> >>i need to insert a blank page for typographical reasons so that the back
> >>cover will be on the back of a double sided document.
> >>
> >>i have tried to use:
> >>
> >>pagebreak
> >>\thispagestyle{empty}
> >>\phantom{}
>
> \clearemptydoublepage
>
> To get it as the last page, if needed
> \AtEndDocument{\clearemptydoublepage}
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Jean-Pierre
>
>
>


Re: How to insert a blank page?

2005-09-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 02:17:54 BST, [Leon Chen] wrote : \_


Very short question, how to insert a blank page in lyx?

I want to show the abstract and acknowledgements in separated page,
nothing on the back of them. Then the TOC start the entire paper with
the binding margin at left side.

I search the google but no result..


Many thanks.

--
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


There are a variety of ways, but here is one:

* Enter a single whitespace (CTRL+SPACE) on a new line

* Layout - Paragraph - Lines  Pagebreaks.

* Tick Above and Below on the right-hand side.

Hope it helps,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  | Computers are useless. They only solve problems
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
12:10am  up 15 days  4:17,  5 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.56, 0.79



Re: How to insert a blank page?

2005-09-08 Thread Leon Chen
Thank you  Roy :). your trick works

And I made a search, find some better to achieve this problem: \cleardoublepage:
***
\cleardoublepage

The \cleardoublepage command ends the current page and causes all
figures and tables that have so far appeared in the input to be
printed. In a two-sided printing style, it also makes the next page a
right-hand (odd-numbered) page, producing a blank page if necessary.

***

It can automatically make sure next textd-page is  start on an
odd-numbered page. Which is just I want, however, there some thing
stupid in it:

it still put page number on the automatically inserted blank page.
There is some discussion on it, and it is treated as some bug. at

http://www.latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=latex/2342;



As for me, I think will still use your method to do it since the
bug in the clearcoublepage...

Thank you very much.



On 09/09/05, Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 02:17:54 BST, [Leon Chen] wrote : \_
 
  Very short question, how to insert a blank page in lyx?
 
  I want to show the abstract and acknowledgements in separated page,
  nothing on the back of them. Then the TOC start the entire paper with
  the binding margin at left side.
 
  I search the google but no result..
 
 
  Many thanks.
 
  --
  Leon Chen,
  Imperial College, London
 
  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 There are a variety of ways, but here is one:
 
 * Enter a single whitespace (CTRL+SPACE) on a new line
 
 * Layout - Paragraph - Lines  Pagebreaks.
 
 * Tick Above and Below on the right-hand side.
 
 Hope it helps,
 
 Roy
 
 --
 Roy S. Schestowitz  | Computers are useless. They only solve problems
 http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
 12:10am  up 15 days  4:17,  5 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.56, 0.79
 
 


-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How to insert a blank page?

2005-09-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 02:17:54 BST, [Leon Chen] wrote : \_


Very short question, how to insert a blank page in lyx?

I want to show the abstract and acknowledgements in separated page,
nothing on the back of them. Then the TOC start the entire paper with
the binding margin at left side.

I search the google but no result..


Many thanks.

--
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


There are a variety of ways, but here is one:

* Enter a single whitespace (CTRL+SPACE) on a new line

* Layout - Paragraph - Lines  Pagebreaks.

* Tick Above and Below on the right-hand side.

Hope it helps,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  | Computers are useless. They only solve problems
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
12:10am  up 15 days  4:17,  5 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.56, 0.79



Re: How to insert a blank page?

2005-09-08 Thread Leon Chen
Thank you  Roy :). your trick works

And I made a search, find some better to achieve this problem: \cleardoublepage:
***
\cleardoublepage

The \cleardoublepage command ends the current page and causes all
figures and tables that have so far appeared in the input to be
printed. In a two-sided printing style, it also makes the next page a
right-hand (odd-numbered) page, producing a blank page if necessary.

***

It can automatically make sure next textd-page is  start on an
odd-numbered page. Which is just I want, however, there some thing
stupid in it:

it still put page number on the automatically inserted blank page.
There is some discussion on it, and it is treated as some bug. at

http://www.latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=latex/2342;



As for me, I think will still use your method to do it since the
bug in the clearcoublepage...

Thank you very much.



On 09/09/05, Roy Schestowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 02:17:54 BST, [Leon Chen] wrote : \_
 
  Very short question, how to insert a blank page in lyx?
 
  I want to show the abstract and acknowledgements in separated page,
  nothing on the back of them. Then the TOC start the entire paper with
  the binding margin at left side.
 
  I search the google but no result..
 
 
  Many thanks.
 
  --
  Leon Chen,
  Imperial College, London
 
  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 There are a variety of ways, but here is one:
 
 * Enter a single whitespace (CTRL+SPACE) on a new line
 
 * Layout - Paragraph - Lines  Pagebreaks.
 
 * Tick Above and Below on the right-hand side.
 
 Hope it helps,
 
 Roy
 
 --
 Roy S. Schestowitz  | Computers are useless. They only solve problems
 http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
 12:10am  up 15 days  4:17,  5 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.56, 0.79
 
 


-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How to insert a blank page?

2005-09-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 02:17:54 BST, [Leon Chen] wrote : \_


Very short question, how to insert a blank page in lyx?

I want to show the abstract and acknowledgements in separated page,
nothing on the back of them. Then the TOC start the entire paper with
the binding margin at left side.

I search the google but no result..


Many thanks.

--
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


There are a variety of ways, but here is one:

* Enter a single whitespace (CTRL+SPACE) on a new line

* Layout -> Paragraph -> Lines & Pagebreaks.

* Tick "Above" and "Below" on the right-hand side.

Hope it helps,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  | "Computers are useless. They only solve problems"
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
12:10am  up 15 days  4:17,  5 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.56, 0.79



Re: How to insert a blank page?

2005-09-08 Thread Leon Chen
Thank you  Roy :). your trick works

And I made a search, find some better to achieve this problem: \cleardoublepage:
***
\cleardoublepage

The \cleardoublepage command ends the current page and causes all
figures and tables that have so far appeared in the input to be
printed. In a two-sided printing style, it also makes the next page a
right-hand (odd-numbered) page, producing a blank page if necessary.

***

It can automatically make sure next textd-page is  start on an
odd-numbered page. Which is just I want, however, there some thing
stupid in it:

it still put page number on the automatically inserted blank page.
There is some discussion on it, and it is treated as some bug. at

http://www.latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=latex/2342;



As for me, I think will still use your method to do it since the
bug in the clearcoublepage...

Thank you very much.



On 09/09/05, Roy Schestowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> _/ On Fri 09 Sep 2005 02:17:54 BST, [Leon Chen] wrote : \_
> 
> > Very short question, how to insert a blank page in lyx?
> >
> > I want to show the abstract and acknowledgements in separated page,
> > nothing on the back of them. Then the TOC start the entire paper with
> > the binding margin at left side.
> >
> > I search the google but no result..
> >
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Leon Chen,
> > Imperial College, London
> >
> > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> There are a variety of ways, but here is one:
> 
> * Enter a single whitespace (CTRL+SPACE) on a new line
> 
> * Layout -> Paragraph -> Lines & Pagebreaks.
> 
> * Tick "Above" and "Below" on the right-hand side.
> 
> Hope it helps,
> 
> Roy
> 
> --
> Roy S. Schestowitz  | "Computers are useless. They only solve problems"
> http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux| PGP-Key: 74572E8E
> 12:10am  up 15 days  4:17,  5 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.56, 0.79
> 
> 


-- 
Leon Chen,
Imperial College, London

MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]