Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Also sprach Jürgen Spitzmüller:
 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
  Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?
 
 In the long run, yes (there's a ticket on trac about the issue).

FYI I took a breath and implemented native \includeonly support to our 
development version (this can not be backported to the 1.6.x branch, since it 
involves a file format change).

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Also sprach Jürgen Spitzmüller:
 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
  Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?
 
 In the long run, yes (there's a ticket on trac about the issue).

FYI I took a breath and implemented native \includeonly support to our 
development version (this can not be backported to the 1.6.x branch, since it 
involves a file format change).

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Also sprach Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> Peter Baumgartner wrote:
> > Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?
> 
> In the long run, yes (there's a ticket on trac about the issue).

FYI I took a breath and implemented native \includeonly support to our 
development version (this can not be backported to the 1.6.x branch, since it 
involves a file format change).

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-01-05, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
  ... the command \includeonly does not work.
  At least that was the discussion on an older lyx version ...

 Yes. It does not work since LyX uses specific filenames for the
 compilation of the document in the temporary directory.

In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
directory. Is this still supported? If yes, the documentation should
mention this as a requirement for working with \includeonly (besides
compiling the complete document first).

Günter

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Guenter Milde wrote:
 In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
 directory. Is this still supported?

I don't think so.

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Daniel Lohmann]

On 06.01.2010, at 10:58, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:


Guenter Milde wrote:

In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
directory. Is this still supported?


I don't think so.


Which is a pity, IMHO.

Not only this would be an easy workaround for all problems related to  
not natively supported external material (and we have many cases for  
that), I also really liked the fact, that I always had the latest PDF  
version of the document at hand without having to explicitly export it  
first.


Daniel

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-01-05, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Peter Baumgartner wrote:
  ... the command \includeonly does not work.
  At least that was the discussion on an older lyx version ...

 Yes. It does not work since LyX uses specific filenames for the
 compilation of the document in the temporary directory.

In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
directory. Is this still supported? If yes, the documentation should
mention this as a requirement for working with \includeonly (besides
compiling the complete document first).

Günter

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Guenter Milde wrote:
 In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
 directory. Is this still supported?

I don't think so.

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Daniel Lohmann]

On 06.01.2010, at 10:58, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:


Guenter Milde wrote:

In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
directory. Is this still supported?


I don't think so.


Which is a pity, IMHO.

Not only this would be an easy workaround for all problems related to  
not natively supported external material (and we have many cases for  
that), I also really liked the fact, that I always had the latest PDF  
version of the document at hand without having to explicitly export it  
first.


Daniel

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-01-05, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Peter Baumgartner wrote:
>>  ... the command \includeonly does not work.
>>  At least that was the discussion on an older lyx version ...

> Yes. It does not work since LyX uses specific filenames for the
> compilation of the document in the temporary directory.

In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
directory. Is this still supported? If yes, the documentation should
mention this as a requirement for working with \includeonly (besides
compiling the complete document first).

Günter

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Guenter Milde wrote:
> In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
> directory. Is this still supported?

I don't think so.

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Daniel Lohmann]

On 06.01.2010, at 10:58, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:


Guenter Milde wrote:

In older LyX versions, you could choose to compile without temporary
directory. Is this still supported?


I don't think so.


Which is a pity, IMHO.

Not only this would be an easy workaround for all problems related to  
not natively supported external material (and we have many cases for  
that), I also really liked the fact, that I always had the latest PDF  
version of the document at hand without having to explicitly export it  
first.


Daniel

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Pierfranco Minsenti]

Hi,

I too have observed that the \includeonly command doesn't work and I would
be very interested in knowing if there is a way to use it in LyX.

For now, a very simple suggestion for Peter consists in compiling from the
master file but only after including in a LyX note the chapters he doesn't
want to compile:
1. highlight with the mouse the name of the file listed in the master file;
2. click on the LyX note icon in the command bar: the name of the file is
now included in a LyX note and will not be sent to pdflatex for compilation
3. etc. for every file not to be compiled. Only names of files that must be
compiled remain unchanged.

This always works perfectly.
pierfranco

2010/1/5 Peter Baumgartner peter.baumgart...@donau-uni.ac.at


 I'm writing on a long document (book with various chapters) with LyX 1.6.5
 on
 OS X 10.5.8. After trying to prepare a master file with a preamble valid
 for
 all files and to work on each file separately I noticed through different
 posts on this forum that the command \includeonly does not work. At least
 that was the discussion on an older lyx version but I assume that this is
 still the case (independently that in the actual manual the \includeonly
 command is still mentioned as it would function properly). Is this right?


 So I tried to separate the preamble commands in a special file
 preamble.tex and \input it into every file. But this didn't work. It
 generated many errors, all of them - as far as I can see - related with my
 bibliography. As I'm using biblatex with the module biblatex-citation-style
 I assume that this is also the problem. Can anyone suggest how to proceed?

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Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 I'm writing on a long document (book with various chapters) with LyX 1.6.5
  on OS X 10.5.8. After trying to prepare a master file with a preamble
  valid for all files and to work on each file separately I noticed through
  different posts on this forum that the command \includeonly does not work.
  At least that was the discussion on an older lyx version but I assume that
  this is still the case (independently that in the actual manual the
  \includeonly command is still mentioned as it would function properly).
  Is this right?

Yes. It does not work since LyX uses specific filenames for the compilation of 
the document in the temporary directory.

 So I tried to separate the preamble commands in a special file
 preamble.tex and \input it into every file. But this didn't work. It
 generated many errors, all of them - as far as I can see - related with my
 bibliography. As I'm using biblatex with the module biblatex-citation-style
 I assume that this is also the problem. Can anyone suggest how to proceed?

It is supposed to work. Could you post an example file?

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Peter Baumgartner]

Pierfranco: Thanks for the tip, very helpful

Jürgen: Now it works! Problem was the filename preamble.tex :blush:

Two more related questions:
Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?
If not: How to change this misleading paragraph in the manual?



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Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?

In the long run, yes (there's a ticket on trac about the issue).

The problem is: a proper includeonly support involves some work, since LyX 
will need to take care that the whole document is compiled at least once 
(and/or cache the aux files). 

 If not: How to change this misleading paragraph in the manual?

Post a message with CC: to lyx-docs with reference to the respective 
paragraph.

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Pierfranco Minsenti]

Hi,

I too have observed that the \includeonly command doesn't work and I would
be very interested in knowing if there is a way to use it in LyX.

For now, a very simple suggestion for Peter consists in compiling from the
master file but only after including in a LyX note the chapters he doesn't
want to compile:
1. highlight with the mouse the name of the file listed in the master file;
2. click on the LyX note icon in the command bar: the name of the file is
now included in a LyX note and will not be sent to pdflatex for compilation
3. etc. for every file not to be compiled. Only names of files that must be
compiled remain unchanged.

This always works perfectly.
pierfranco

2010/1/5 Peter Baumgartner peter.baumgart...@donau-uni.ac.at


 I'm writing on a long document (book with various chapters) with LyX 1.6.5
 on
 OS X 10.5.8. After trying to prepare a master file with a preamble valid
 for
 all files and to work on each file separately I noticed through different
 posts on this forum that the command \includeonly does not work. At least
 that was the discussion on an older lyx version but I assume that this is
 still the case (independently that in the actual manual the \includeonly
 command is still mentioned as it would function properly). Is this right?


 So I tried to separate the preamble commands in a special file
 preamble.tex and \input it into every file. But this didn't work. It
 generated many errors, all of them - as far as I can see - related with my
 bibliography. As I'm using biblatex with the module biblatex-citation-style
 I assume that this is also the problem. Can anyone suggest how to proceed?

 --
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Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 I'm writing on a long document (book with various chapters) with LyX 1.6.5
  on OS X 10.5.8. After trying to prepare a master file with a preamble
  valid for all files and to work on each file separately I noticed through
  different posts on this forum that the command \includeonly does not work.
  At least that was the discussion on an older lyx version but I assume that
  this is still the case (independently that in the actual manual the
  \includeonly command is still mentioned as it would function properly).
  Is this right?

Yes. It does not work since LyX uses specific filenames for the compilation of 
the document in the temporary directory.

 So I tried to separate the preamble commands in a special file
 preamble.tex and \input it into every file. But this didn't work. It
 generated many errors, all of them - as far as I can see - related with my
 bibliography. As I'm using biblatex with the module biblatex-citation-style
 I assume that this is also the problem. Can anyone suggest how to proceed?

It is supposed to work. Could you post an example file?

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Peter Baumgartner]

Pierfranco: Thanks for the tip, very helpful

Jürgen: Now it works! Problem was the filename preamble.tex :blush:

Two more related questions:
Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?
If not: How to change this misleading paragraph in the manual?



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Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
 Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?

In the long run, yes (there's a ticket on trac about the issue).

The problem is: a proper includeonly support involves some work, since LyX 
will need to take care that the whole document is compiled at least once 
(and/or cache the aux files). 

 If not: How to change this misleading paragraph in the manual?

Post a message with CC: to lyx-docs with reference to the respective 
paragraph.

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Pierfranco Minsenti]

Hi,

I too have observed that the \includeonly command doesn't work and I would
be very interested in knowing if there is a way to use it in LyX.

For now, a very simple suggestion for Peter consists in compiling from the
master file but only after including in a LyX note the chapters he doesn't
want to compile:
1. highlight with the mouse the name of the file listed in the master file;
2. click on the LyX note icon in the command bar: the name of the file is
now included in a LyX note and will not be sent to pdflatex for compilation
3. etc. for every file not to be compiled. Only names of files that must be
compiled remain unchanged.

This always works perfectly.
pierfranco

2010/1/5 Peter Baumgartner 

>
> I'm writing on a long document (book with various chapters) with LyX 1.6.5
> on
> OS X 10.5.8. After trying to prepare a master file with a preamble valid
> for
> all files and to work on each file separately I noticed through different
> posts on this forum that the command \includeonly does not work. At least
> that was the discussion on an older lyx version but I assume that this is
> still the case (independently that in the actual manual the "\includeonly"
> command is still mentioned as it would function properly). Is this right?
>
>
> So I tried to separate the preamble commands in a special file
> "preamble.tex" and \input it into every file. But this didn't work. It
> generated many errors, all of them - as far as I can see - related with my
> bibliography. As I'm using biblatex with the module biblatex-citation-style
> I assume that this is also the problem. Can anyone suggest how to proceed?
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://n2.nabble.com/input-preamble-with-biblatex-tp4254194p4254194.html
> Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
> I'm writing on a long document (book with various chapters) with LyX 1.6.5
>  on OS X 10.5.8. After trying to prepare a master file with a preamble
>  valid for all files and to work on each file separately I noticed through
>  different posts on this forum that the command \includeonly does not work.
>  At least that was the discussion on an older lyx version but I assume that
>  this is still the case (independently that in the actual manual the
>  "\includeonly" command is still mentioned as it would function properly).
>  Is this right?

Yes. It does not work since LyX uses specific filenames for the compilation of 
the document in the temporary directory.

> So I tried to separate the preamble commands in a special file
> "preamble.tex" and \input it into every file. But this didn't work. It
> generated many errors, all of them - as far as I can see - related with my
> bibliography. As I'm using biblatex with the module biblatex-citation-style
> I assume that this is also the problem. Can anyone suggest how to proceed?

It is supposed to work. Could you post an example file?

Jürgen

Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Peter Baumgartner]

Pierfranco: Thanks for the tip, very helpful

Jürgen: Now it works! Problem was the filename "preamble.tex" :blush:

Two more related questions:
Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?
If not: How to change this misleading paragraph in the manual?



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Re: input preamble with biblatex?

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Peter Baumgartner wrote:
> Is there a plan to solve the \includeonly problem?

In the long run, yes (there's a ticket on trac about the issue).

The problem is: a proper includeonly support involves some work, since LyX 
will need to take care that the whole document is compiled at least once 
(and/or cache the aux files). 

> If not: How to change this misleading paragraph in the manual?

Post a message with CC: to lyx-docs with reference to the respective 
paragraph.

Jürgen