Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Manveru]

2009/8/15 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com:
 On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

 Joe wrote:


 In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
 Any advice is appreciated.

 I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png




 I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

 It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.



 This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then the
 add or modify button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the From
 format to DVI and To format to LaTeX (plain), then the Add button
 will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI--LaTeX converter (??).
 Alternatively, if you click on DVI -- Postscript and then add something
 in the Extra flag box, then the Modify button will be enabled.

 As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a better
 system.

If I may suggest something, that could be done in more intuitive ways:

1. More Eclipse approach: Create edit button and do additional dialog
for editing.

2. Keep fields for typing converter parameters disabled. Then when
clicked New - create new row with name 'New Converter', select it,
enable all fields to type and commit button. When clicked edit just
enable the fields to edit and the commit button. Display an question
dialog box when someone clicked on the list of converters above or the
menu of options about abandoning changes. That would be more intuitive
in my opinion.


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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Manveru]

2009/8/15 rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com:
 On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

 Joe wrote:


 In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
 Any advice is appreciated.

 I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png




 I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

 It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.



 This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then the
 add or modify button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the From
 format to DVI and To format to LaTeX (plain), then the Add button
 will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI--LaTeX converter (??).
 Alternatively, if you click on DVI -- Postscript and then add something
 in the Extra flag box, then the Modify button will be enabled.

 As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a better
 system.

If I may suggest something, that could be done in more intuitive ways:

1. More Eclipse approach: Create edit button and do additional dialog
for editing.

2. Keep fields for typing converter parameters disabled. Then when
clicked New - create new row with name 'New Converter', select it,
enable all fields to type and commit button. When clicked edit just
enable the fields to edit and the commit button. Display an question
dialog box when someone clicked on the list of converters above or the
menu of options about abandoning changes. That would be more intuitive
in my opinion.


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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Manveru]

2009/8/15 rgheck :
> On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:
>>
>> Joe wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
>>> Any advice is appreciated.
>>>
>>> I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4
>>>
>>>  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
>>> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
>> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png
>>
>> It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.
>>
>>
>
> This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then the
> "add" or "modify" button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the "From
> format" to "DVI" and "To format" to "LaTeX (plain)", then the Add button
> will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI-->LaTeX converter (??).
> Alternatively, if you click on "DVI --> Postscript" and then add something
> in the "Extra flag" box, then the Modify button will be enabled.
>
> As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a better
> system.

If I may suggest something, that could be done in more intuitive ways:

1. More Eclipse approach: Create edit button and do additional dialog
for editing.

2. Keep fields for typing converter parameters disabled. Then when
clicked New - create new row with name 'New Converter', select it,
enable all fields to type and commit button. When clicked edit just
enable the fields to edit and the commit button. Display an question
dialog box when someone clicked on the list of converters above or the
menu of options about abandoning changes. That would be more intuitive
in my opinion.


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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[unknownmosquito]

Joe wrote:
 
 In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify. 
 Any advice is appreciated.  
 
 I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4
 
  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png 
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png 
 


I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png 

It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.
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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[rgheck]

On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

Joe wrote:
   

In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
Any advice is appreciated.

I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png

 



I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.

   
This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then 
the add or modify button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the 
From format to DVI and To format to LaTeX (plain), then the Add 
button will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI--LaTeX converter 
(??). Alternatively, if you click on DVI -- Postscript and then add 
something in the Extra flag box, then the Modify button will be enabled.


As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a 
better system.


rh

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[unknownmosquito]

Joe wrote:
 
 In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify. 
 Any advice is appreciated.  
 
 I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4
 
  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png 
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png 
 


I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png 

It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.
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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[rgheck]

On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

Joe wrote:
   

In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
Any advice is appreciated.

I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png

 



I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.

   
This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then 
the add or modify button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the 
From format to DVI and To format to LaTeX (plain), then the Add 
button will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI--LaTeX converter 
(??). Alternatively, if you click on DVI -- Postscript and then add 
something in the Extra flag box, then the Modify button will be enabled.


As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a 
better system.


rh

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[unknownmosquito]

Joe wrote:
> 
> In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify. 
> Any advice is appreciated.  
> 
> I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4
> 
>  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png 
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png 
> 


I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png 

It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.
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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[rgheck]

On 08/15/2009 03:21 PM, unknownmosquito wrote:

Joe wrote:
   

In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.
Any advice is appreciated.

I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

  http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png

 



I have this same problem on two different Fedora 11 machines:
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3450869/%2BPreferences.png

It is extremely frustrating. If there is a workaround, please let me know.

   
This dialog is kind of confusing. You have to change something, and then 
the "add" or "modify" button will be enabled. So e.g., if you change the 
"From format" to "DVI" and "To format" to "LaTeX (plain)", then the Add 
button will be enabled, so that you can add a DVI-->LaTeX converter 
(??). Alternatively, if you click on "DVI --> Postscript" and then add 
something in the "Extra flag" box, then the Modify button will be enabled.


As I said, I know this is kind of confusing, but we haven't found a 
better system.


rh

can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Joe]

In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.  Any
advice is appreciated.  

I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png 
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png 
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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Uwe Stöhr]

Joe schrieb:


In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.  Any
advice is appreciated.


You can only press the modify button when you changed an existing file format. To add a file format 
and change its edit fields to a new one. Than you can press Add. The UserGuide and the Extended 
manual will tell you more.


I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers don't agree with me. So the 
best is when you report this problematic at bugzilla.lyx.org.
I think the most intuitive way is when Add is always active. When you pres Add, a new blank file 
format appears where you can fill the different fields. Then press Save and you got a new file 
format. What would be your aproach?


regards Uwe

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[rgheck]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers 
don't agree with me.



One does.

rh

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Paul A. Rubin]

rgheck wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers 
don't agree with me.



One does.



As does one non-developer.  :-)

can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Joe]

In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.  Any
advice is appreciated.  

I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png 
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png 
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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Uwe Stöhr]

Joe schrieb:


In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.  Any
advice is appreciated.


You can only press the modify button when you changed an existing file format. To add a file format 
and change its edit fields to a new one. Than you can press Add. The UserGuide and the Extended 
manual will tell you more.


I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers don't agree with me. So the 
best is when you report this problematic at bugzilla.lyx.org.
I think the most intuitive way is when Add is always active. When you pres Add, a new blank file 
format appears where you can fill the different fields. Then press Save and you got a new file 
format. What would be your aproach?


regards Uwe

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[rgheck]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers 
don't agree with me.



One does.

rh

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Paul A. Rubin]

rgheck wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers 
don't agree with me.



One does.



As does one non-developer.  :-)

can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Joe]

In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.  Any
advice is appreciated.  

I'm running 1.5.6 on OS X 10.5.4

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png Picture+3.png 
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n669102/Picture%2B3.png 
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Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Uwe Stöhr]

Joe schrieb:


In the GUI for LyX the Add and Modify buttons are gray.  I can't modify.  Any
advice is appreciated.


You can only press the modify button when you changed an existing file format. To add a file format 
and change its edit fields to a new one. Than you can press Add. The UserGuide and the Extended 
manual will tell you more.


I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers don't agree with me. So the 
best is when you report this problematic at bugzilla.lyx.org.
I think the most intuitive way is when Add is always active. When you pres Add, a new blank file 
format appears where you can fill the different fields. Then press Save and you got a new file 
format. What would be your aproach?


regards Uwe

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[rgheck]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers 
don't agree with me.



One does.

rh

Re: can't edit Converters, File Formats, Copiers

[Paul A. Rubin]

rgheck wrote:

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
I know that this dialog is quite unintuitive, but the other developers 
don't agree with me.



One does.



As does one non-developer.  :-)